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Posted: 10/4/2004 3:37:22 AM EDT
[#1]
Go directly to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200.
You may as well just own up and hope for the best in court. Reckless driving doesn't carry that stiff of a penalty, it's only a misdemeanor here. |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 3:46:47 AM EDT
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It would probably be better to just talk with the officer, to let him know that you're just an average normal guy (if you are). He's not asking if you know your speed so that you can incriminate yourself. You already accomplished that in fine fashion by blowing by his squad at 120+ MPH. When I ask someone if they know how fast they're going. I already know the answer. I just want to see if they're aware. I drive fast on occasion. I've been let go, and I've been cited. I write tickets to those that I feel need it, and I don't write those I feel don't need it. Up to 39 over the limit in IL, max fine is $500. 40 MPH over the limit is a misdemeanor arrest and up to a $2500 fine.
A cop I used to know years ago almost never wrote speeding tickets, and he stopped speeders all the time. Why he didn't write the tickets? He told the drivers: So how fast were you going? If your guess is within 1 mph of what's on my radar gun, I won't write you the ticket. He said it was like magic - everyone always knew their exact speed. I paced Sebring convertible driven by a 19 year old back in May this year. On a 4 lane 45 mph major city road, he crossed an intersection I was coming up to, at what I guessed was around 85-90 MPH. About a mile and a half later and 4 traffic lights later, I caught up to him and paced him about a half mile at 115 to 120 MPH. When I finally hit the red/blue lights I wish I'd have had a camera on his face. Anyways, I asked him if he knew how fast he was going... "No sir, I don't. I was just trying to catch up to my girlfriend.. can you just give me a warning, I promise I'll never do this again" I told the kid, c'mon.. nobody, I mean NOBODY drives this fast and doesn't look down at the speedometer to see just how freaking fast they're going. It's part of the thrill! Kid: "I was going 115 miles per hour officer." By the way. He had a .170 breath alcohol level... think he got really lucky that night, or really screwed? I think he got lucky. |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 4:04:32 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/4/2004 4:08:04 AM EDT
[#4]
Only at 3:30 on a Sunday morning. I don't care what you drive. 
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Posted: 10/4/2004 4:33:59 AM EDT
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"Thanks for not shooting officer", it's the first time the accelerator pedal stuck and all I could do was hold on. (Lift hood, call tow truck)
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Posted: 10/4/2004 4:35:29 AM EDT
[#6]
My thoughts?
SLOW THE FUCK DOWN!!! Hows that? SGatr15 |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 4:44:08 AM EDT
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You know, you guys beat your chests about being so independent as gun owners, and yet no one has remarked about how stupid our nation's speed limits really are. Have none of you driven on an autobahn? Why the hell do beaten down socialists in Germany get to drive as fast as they want to and we still live under this idiotic paternalistic nonsense relating to the completely bizarre notion that "speed" should have a hard and fast limit?
I realize most Americans are really sorry-assed drivers skill-wise. People constantly pass me on the right and do things that would be unimaginable on the highly disciplined autobahns. So there's the rub, I guess. We're a nation of adults who act like little children. My advice: Learn to drive fast safely and then go do it and to hell with the rest of the bs. Have a lawyer on retainer, you will need him, yes HIM, for something at some point the way things are going. Interstates are built for 90-100mph traffic in most places. It's the people who can't seem to handle it, and the states who want to make money off of it. |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 5:00:51 AM EDT
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We just fired an officer for traveling 90 in a 40 zone, off duty in his own car. Juveniles don't belong in LE.
As for those advocating running, Aren't you the same clowns that bitch when someone dies in a police chase?  If you want to play Russian Roulette with a car, don't force other people into the game.
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Posted: 10/4/2004 5:10:55 AM EDT
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DONT' STOP! When the cops get behind you (if they can catch up) Wreck your car. If you survive the crash claim that your accelerator was stuck. Try this and Let me know how it works out for you! 
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Posted: 10/4/2004 5:12:57 AM EDT
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i think i'll drag the collective i.q. down by another point or two by responding...
driving is not a game. |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 5:17:38 AM EDT
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I got pulled over doing about 110mph in a 65mph zone. Here was the conversation as best as I can remember it.
Cop: "Sir, how fast were you going?" Me: "Uh, I don't know officer." Cop: "Let me ask you again and keep in mind that anything in excess of 20 mph over the speed limit I can take you to jail." Me: "Officer, I was going 84mph" Cop: "Smart man" He wrote me a ticket for 19 mph over and send me on my way. Nice guy he was. |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 5:20:33 AM EDT
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What I find interesting about this topic is how some of the posters seem to get all worked up about such an act.
If the weather is nice and the road is clear, there is NOTHING morally wrong with opening your car up. The only potential danger is to myself...and so long as you have a car that can handle it, it really isnt all that dangerous either. Furthermore, it amazes me that people on this board actually bring up the "need" arguement. |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 5:30:53 AM EDT
[#14]
Since when do "Morals" have anything to do with speeding? |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 5:36:58 AM EDT
[#15]
If traffic is heavy and flowing around 65-70, and a person is doing his best to maintain 85-90 which involves a lot of weaving to do so...he is endangering the safety of others around him and therefore morally wrong.
Clear enough?
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Posted: 10/4/2004 5:38:23 AM EDT
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i got pulled over sort of, on a bike, it was made for a road course, slicks and all, i was on a long stretch of road that dead ended, 4 lanes, nice, the bike was falling on its face in high gear, i spent a week meesing with the carbs, finally i got it, it ran like a scalded dog, i turned down the road and hit second gear , big wheelie, hung on, and kept shifting,, hit redline in top gear
when i started my slowdown i heard the sirens, i was nearing an entrance ramp for the eway before the dead end a couple miles down, when i saw it was a cop i just pulled over and stopped, i was at least 1.5 miles ahead of him, i was sitting on the curb when he pulled up no tail lights, no turn signals, way loud pipe on hte bike, slicks, no headlight, no mirrors he asked how fast i was going and i told him "you got me", and i deserve it, i wont lie, it was falling on its face, i finally got the jetting right, i was at the rev limiter in top gear, i was going as fast as i could, sorry... he asked why i stopped, i told him i would not run, and would take the punishment for what i have done he said i was honest, it freaked him out, he wrote me a bald tire ticket and let me go, he also gave me a lecture about speeding, he said the next time i wanna do 175 or so i should hit the eway, it would be a lot safer |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 5:40:46 AM EDT
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Double gets you a ride in the back seat and impound fee that will make your sphincter clinch .
And you deserve it if you get caught . You want to play speed racer . There are lots of tracks that will let you enter your street car with a few minimal safety regs . Sign the waiver pay the fee and go out and see just what kind of balls you really have . |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 5:49:19 AM EDT
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Apparently you need to look up the definition of "Moral". BTW: At the speeds you are discussing, You CANNOT know the road is clear. After all, it's obvious you didn't see the cop, what makes you think you are going to see the car coming out of a driveway? I've worked dozens of fatality collisions. In just about every one, (If there are any survivors) the first words are always, "I didn't see them". Asshats from the word "go".  You may be a murdering asshat at that. The suggestion was made to go to a track. Take you macho bullshit there, where cleanup is easier. |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 6:03:25 AM EDT
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When it comes to speed limits in the US; I've never had a problem with them and doubt that I will. While I will admit there are places that have "low" limits, they are more of an exception than the rule. |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 6:35:53 AM EDT
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Moral: 1 a : of or relating to principles of right and wrong in behavior : ETHICAL <moral judgments> b : expressing or teaching a conception of right behavior <a moral poem> c : conforming to a standard of right behavior d : sanctioned by or operative on one's conscience or ethical judgment <a moral obligation> e : capable of right and wrong action <a moral agent>
Hmmm...APPARENTLY I was using the word just fine. Not sure what you thought it meant. Now you do. Furthermore, there aren't too many driveways on interstates...as a matter of fact...I'd venture to say there are none in the country. Those entrance ramps aren't driveways, by the way...in case that is what was causing your confusion.
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Posted: 10/4/2004 6:42:12 AM EDT
[#21]
not true AT ALL... 20 over will (can) get you a reckless op charge which equates to a 6 point violation. Takes 12 to lose your license. |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 6:43:11 AM EDT
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My God, I think I have found the stupidest person on the face of the earth. Well, This IS Arfcom. I suggest a living will and prepaid funeral arrangements. Edited to Add: Install a dash cam as well. I want to see your face on the Darwin award website when your tire blows in that pothole or you come around a curve to find a construction truck.. |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 6:59:23 AM EDT
[#23]
1 Citation for speeding. 1 Citation for defective speedometer. |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 7:10:32 AM EDT
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Tow bill $100 4 new tires $800 Lawyer fees $2500 Getting your dumb ass of the road PRICELESS. Brought to you by Motorola, Ford, and Scoprion. |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 7:26:35 AM EDT
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What's with the personal attacks?
If conditions permit, and you have a car that can handle it, there is nothing wrong with 100mph+. Sorry if the notion of going into triple digits makes your head spin.
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Posted: 10/4/2004 7:31:33 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/4/2004 7:57:36 AM EDT
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Last post on this drivel, think about the following things.
Amount of trash and poor surface on your typical roadway. Triple digit speeds means you have no assured clear stopping distance, or even a clear line of sight. I don't care WHERE you are. Can you see a chunk of rebar or gravel in the road at a mile? It's going to be a rare driver indeed whose experience, vehicle and tires are rated for such speeds. If you didn't install those tires and suspension from a race shop, they're not. Tires come apart under 55mph all the time. Where do you think all that rubber on the interstate comes from? The Tread Fairy? Race drivers barely reach these speeds in a vehicle specially built from the ground up and only driven on a obsessively maintained closed track. At that, they'll change tires every 50 laps or so. THAT's why I consider this the topic of idiots. You essentially are strapping yourself into a missle that's only barely guided. I've worked fatality wreck scenes 800 yards long. Modern cars are not aerodynamically stable at such speeds. You do realize that double the interstate limit is faster than the TAKEOFF speed of most aircraft? Don't bother paying attention to me. After all, I'm just the guy that spent years cleaning up after those that think it's "Morally" ok. I don't even really care any more, (unless they kill innocents) I'm just glad they die before they can breed. Do what you wish, Zippy. Some officers and fire guys could probably use the overtime. |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 8:19:48 AM EDT
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libertarian: If you've lost count of the number of times that people pass you on the right, I suggest you try to understand this phrase, posted on signs along countless highways throughout our wonderful country: SLOWER TRAFFIC KEEP RIGHT.
OR KEEP RIGHT EXCEPT TO PASS. If people are passing you on the right, GET THE FUCK OVER AND LET THEM BY. This simple act of consideration would, I'm sure, reduce road rage incidents by 60%-70%. And I don't want to hear any drivel about you're doing the speed limit, too bad-or I pay taxes and I can drive any goddamn speed I want. BULLSHIT. If you aren't in law enforcement, move over and let people past you. FWIU, on the autobahn if someone wants to pass you they flash their brights and it's COMMON COURTESY to move over and let them pass. Arrogant fucking people here have ZERO idea what that means. |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 8:29:13 AM EDT
[#29]
Taint ever gonna happen. My days of trying to kill myself by driving so stupidly arte LONG over. I saw one high speed accident in Germany and decided that it simply wasn't worth it.
At those kind of speeds, you can be driving as perfectly as is possible to drive, then either someone else does something stupid, you suffer a mechanical failure, strike something in the road, or what have you and you are instantly out of control. The Grim Reaper has already been dispatched and Saint Peter is starting to write your paperwork up. Nope. Not for me. There are too many other things in the world that can kill you without intentionally going out and putting yourself in their way for no damned good reason. |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 8:33:24 AM EDT
[#30]
When he asks where you are going in such a hurry, tell him. "I am trying to get to your house to see your wife before you get off work"
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Posted: 10/4/2004 8:48:01 AM EDT
[#31]
I got pulled over once for doing 75+ in a 30 at 0300 in the morning. The officer asked me why I was driving so fast and I told him I had to give the car a lot of gas because it was loading up and idling so bad due to a big camshaft and small converter I had in it. He asked me to start the car which ran for a few seconds before it died. He gave me a ticket for exhibition of speed which I plea bargined down to speeding. Still an expensive ticket at $375.00 in 1984.
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Posted: 10/4/2004 9:35:45 AM EDT
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Technically, John, there are cars that can do that. Corvette, Cobra-R, andy ///M or AMG car will be stable normaly to over 150. Race cars have soft tires, thats why they replace them. High speed rated street tires are tougher than you might think What you ARE right about is the drivers. You can put a guy in a Ferrari 360, but that doesn't make him an expert. The people are the weak link here. |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 9:38:12 AM EDT
[#33]
Yup. |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 9:43:12 AM EDT
[#34]
Real men take it to the track.
CW |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 10:01:04 AM EDT
[#35]
Combat_Jack, if you put me in any Ferrari from a 275 gtb to the enzo, i'm not sure i could even move! as for speeding, my dodge ram 1500 (v6 and 5 speed) slaps my hands if i go over 65! i must be getting old.
be well maxwell |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 11:39:37 AM EDT
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I feel safer doing 100 in my Mini than 50 in my Mustang. Why? My Mini stops faster (from 100 than the Mustang does from 50, that is), handles better, has better headlights...so why would I be ticketed for going fast in the Mini, but at what is really an unsafe speed (75, for example) in the Mustang?
I took my uncle (former LEO) for a ride in the Mini and he got so scared that he yelled at me for taking a corner "unsafely" - approx 120 degree pavement w/gravel turn. I turned the stability control off and oversteered around the corner (yes, the FWD Mini can do that) at around 35mph. He got me in trouble with my dad, said we could have been killed, etc etc. Then he told me about some kid that was killed goin around the corner. Turns out that this kid was 15, no license, drunk, no seatbelt, in a 70 GMC pickup, rolled it and put it in a ditch, where the kid drowned. So in other words, he was comparing me (and my car) to a drunk kid with no driving experience whatsoever. I am 18 years old but have over 100,000 miles in everything from Minis to Mustangs to Corvettes to 25' box trucks and dually pickups towing 35' fifth wheels. I have 700 flight hours in single engine Cessnas. I started driving go-karts at age 6. I feel safe driving fast, and after about 20 minutes with me, other people feel safe as well. |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 11:45:43 AM EDT
[#37]
My thoughts are that at 150 MPH, you are going to jail no matter what you say. |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 11:47:19 AM EDT
[#38]
DOUBLE the limit? 150MPH+???? forget the question about lawyers and such, kid, you're going to be dead very soon, and likely take some innocent motorist with you. That is just plain stupid. First, If I did happen to be able to stop someone going that fast the chances of them going to jail regardless of what they said would be pretty good. If they were very cooperative then they would get a criminal ticket which would require a court appearance.
Bottom line is this.....speeding that excessively, as well as red light running, are the ulitmate acts of selfish driving. Your actions are more than likely going to lead to the injury or death of someone else. Any doubts.....google the story about the kid is looking at aggravated fleeing and eluding charges from the death of an FHP officer just a few days ago......His world is over. |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 11:51:40 AM EDT
[#39]
This is so true. Believe me, honesty with a cop goes a long way |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 11:54:46 AM EDT
[#40]
My thoughts are, your a moron for doing 150+ on a public road. Thats for closed courses. I don't give a fuck if you are in a goddamn NASCAR with full protection, the other guy on the street doesn't; and all the protection in the world isn't gonna stop you from hitting that pothole/ladder/dog/who-knows-what that just happened to be in the road 'cause it AINT A CLOSED COURSE.
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Posted: 10/4/2004 11:57:04 AM EDT
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Take all types of crime related deaths each year and combine them....then compare it against the number of traffic related deaths. I do not know the exact number but I'll wager a dollar the later is higher than the former. I'm sure one of the "google-meisters" here will either prove me right or wrong. OH yeah, and while your busy googling, post the number of autobon deaths annually....I believe it's quite high. (someone correct me...didn't they finally put a speed limit on the autobon in certain places because of all the wrecks?) |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 12:02:43 PM EDT
[#42]
And you lost your credibility right there........ |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 12:03:37 PM EDT
[#43]
Would you care to explain how it is that you are constantly getting passed on the right? Have you ever even noticed those huge signs on the side of the freeway that say "Slower Traffic Keep Right"? If there is enough room for someone to pass you on the right, then there is more than enough room for you to change lanes and let them by on the left. You know, like they do on the Autobahn! |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 12:11:23 PM EDT
[#44]
What everyone seems to be forgetting here is that I am talking about optimal conditions.
Limited access interstate, clear weather, clear stretch of straight road that you are familiar with. The danger is to me, and no one else...and it is not that dangerous. You say my actions are more than likely going to lead to the death of someone else...a statistical probablility? I hardly think so. I'd say it is HIGHLY unlikely. I am probably a greater menace to society driving through a subdivision packed with kids at 20mph than I am at 150 in my scenario outlined above. There are many, many cars out there these days over 300hp. Do you really think many people that buy such a machine do not get on it every so often? How many 911, corvette, etc. drivers are out there that haven't frequently been well into triple digits? I'd venture to say hardly any. Do it under the right conditions, and its not that big of a deal. The LEO's of this thread seem to be the one's with the biggest problem with this...I have a feeling it is because they have lost their objectivity from being witness to too many accident scenes.
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Posted: 10/4/2004 12:14:23 PM EDT
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can anyone post a statute that says that going 20 mph in excess of the limit constitutes reckless driving as a matter of law? it certainly MAY constitute reckless driving but can anyone find a statute that states as much for any jurisdiction? that rumor is persistent in IL and at least as of last summer when I checked the issue that certainly was not the case...I don't recall exactly but the statute says something about recklessly putting OTHER people or their property at risk and while 20 mph may constitute such a risk, it just as easily may not. thanks. I'd like to see any 20+=reckless driving statutes but I'd be especially interested in any that could be produced for the State of Illinois.
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Posted: 10/4/2004 12:18:11 PM EDT
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Yes, we have seen wayy too many accidents, many caused by and involving people like you. You are NOT endangering just yourself. You think no one else is on the road way with you, that you crashing would not suck some other poor driver who happens to be sharing your part of the road into your accident? Think about your actions and the impact they have on others. |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 12:18:23 PM EDT
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Just as the cop gets out of his car, get out of yours, slam the door as hard as you can, and yell "That Fucking Bitch Stood me Up". Kick the door/fender/tire. Then go into uncontrolled histerics about this imaginary girl friend and how she done you wrong.
I saw this happen with a friend of mine and the cop was more worried about getting my friend to calm down, he told me have him sit by the side of the road until he calmed down and thewn told me to drive him home. And he didn't get a ticket. |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 12:53:16 PM EDT
[#48]
Just reset your X-box and start the game again.
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Posted: 10/4/2004 1:03:46 PM EDT
[#49]
WRONG. Sorry, flawed logic. You cannot guarranty the conditions to be optimal on an open road. |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 1:04:13 PM EDT
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Like I have said before...I only run it up when I have a clear shot in front of me which means no other cars...no twists and turns....etc...
You cant crash into someone else when there IS no one else.
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