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Posted: 10/6/2012 5:32:20 AM EDT
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Some of you clowns know as much about cars INSERT GD TOPIC as you do about relationships INSERT GD TOPIC  FIFY |
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Posted: 10/6/2012 5:41:49 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/6/2012 5:44:29 AM EDT
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Camaros are easy to beat. Just drive past the trailer park where they are all up on cinder blocks.
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Posted: 10/6/2012 6:14:10 AM EDT
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Nothing like a turbo kicking in. Have been in the drivers seat of a few high horse V-8`s..they just didn`t pull hard like a smaller motor with a turbo. Have a friend who was running around 20 PSI of turbo power in a 911 Porsche. At 90 MPH, back tires were still trying to spin loose. The pull & G-forces were unbelievable. Look I admit I am getting old but I was the proud owner of a 1970 LS6 454 Chevelle. Rectangular ports,high rise manifold,850cfm Holly double pumper. Admittedly old school. With a 336 rear it would melt the tires at highway speeds when I dumped the throttle. At a traffic light,my heavy ass full size car would have trouble hooking up at first butt once those tires stuck it would pull your colon right out of your ass and smoke most everything on the road. Now I have 350 c class Benz and have a whole new appreciation of small cc screamers. 120mph and diamond cutting smoothness is nice. I do want an AMG C63. Old school muscle car horsepower and Euro sophistication in a luxury format =  those big block muscle cars usually ran 1/4 mile times somewhere in the 13's, which is plenty fast. you'd expect a little more from a 500+ hp car but those shitty bias ply tires they had back then just didn't provide enough traction and the cars were heavy |
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Posted: 10/6/2012 6:18:53 AM EDT
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Saw a family car get froggy with a SS Camaro at the light Some lady driving with a lead foot....appeared to have her husband in the passenger seat and a child seat in the rear. Took off from the light nicely in her 550 BMW but then I heard the turbo spool up in the SS and it was over... The F body had a turbo 6.0 a 550i gets to 60mph in 4.8 seconds –– with an automatic transmission. by the time you "heard the turbo spool up" the race was over –– in fact any street guy will tell you that the finish line is the other side of the intersection. anyway, it's a bit of a stretch to compare a car that can actually corner and has leather-chair-in-the-living-room comfort to a camaro. ar-jedi the only really useful number is the 1/4 mile time there are plenty of small cars that will jump right up to 60 that used to be a selling point for the sporty 4 bangers when they first started selling them: "beats a porsche to 60!!" then the POS turns in a 17 second quarter |
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Posted: 10/6/2012 6:24:39 AM EDT
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anyway, it's a bit of a stretch to compare a car that can actually corner and has leather-chair-in-the-living-room comfort to a camaro. +1 And won't rattle apart in a year. hardee har har first of all, that camaro would easily whip the ass of the BMW for both cornering and accelleration. second, BMWs are built like shit, they're right up there with volkswagen I used to be friends with a guy who worked at the biggest BMW dealership in florida the salesmen would stand behind the customers and pretend to shear their hair - "shearing the sheep" he told me that they had a huge repo rate on the cars, all the phony wannabees getting in over their head |
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Posted: 10/6/2012 6:29:31 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: anyway, it's a bit of a stretch to compare a car that can actually corner and has leather-chair-in-the-living-room comfort to a camaro. +1 And won't rattle apart in a year. hardee har har first of all, that camaro would easily whip the ass of the BMW for both cornering and accelleration. second, BMWs are built like shit, they're right up there with volkswagen I used to be friends with a guy who worked at the biggest BMW dealership in florida the salesmen would stand behind the customers and pretend to shear their hair - "shearing the sheep" he told me that they had a huge repo rate on the cars, all the phony wannabees getting in over their head UAW? |
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Posted: 10/6/2012 6:38:24 AM EDT
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anyway, it's a bit of a stretch to compare a car that can actually corner and has leather-chair-in-the-living-room comfort to a camaro. +1 And won't rattle apart in a year. hardee har har first of all, that camaro would easily whip the ass of the BMW for both cornering and accelleration. second, BMWs are built like shit, they're right up there with volkswagen I used to be friends with a guy who worked at the biggest BMW dealership in florida the salesmen would stand behind the customers and pretend to shear their hair - "shearing the sheep" he told me that they had a huge repo rate on the cars, all the phony wannabees getting in over their head As a person that's been around the muscle car stuff for years I'm going to call bullshit on this. I love me some v8 power but I'm smart enough to know that some grocery getters aren't made to fuck around with. Camaros are pathetic in the corners. |
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Posted: 10/6/2012 6:54:23 AM EDT
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anyway, it's a bit of a stretch to compare a car that can actually corner and has leather-chair-in-the-living-room comfort to a camaro. +1 And won't rattle apart in a year. hardee har har first of all, that camaro would easily whip the ass of the BMW for both cornering and accelleration. second, BMWs are built like shit, they're right up there with volkswagen I used to be friends with a guy who worked at the biggest BMW dealership in florida the salesmen would stand behind the customers and pretend to shear their hair - "shearing the sheep" he told me that they had a huge repo rate on the cars, all the phony wannabees getting in over their head As a person that's been around the muscle car stuff for years I'm going to call bullshit on this. I love me some v8 power but I'm smart enough to know that some grocery getters aren't made to fuck around with. Camaros are pathetic in the corners. Stock? Maybe. Other than stock? I have to disagree. 
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Posted: 10/6/2012 7:00:27 AM EDT
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550's are quick. SS is lucky it wasn't an M5.
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Posted: 10/6/2012 9:13:07 AM EDT
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Saw a family car get froggy with a SS Camaro at the light Some lady driving with a lead foot....appeared to have her husband in the passenger seat and a child seat in the rear. Took off from the light nicely in her 550 BMW but then I heard the turbo spool up in the SS and it was over... The F body had a turbo 6.0 a 550i gets to 60mph in 4.8 seconds –– with an automatic transmission. by the time you "heard the turbo spool up" the race was over –– in fact any street guy will tell you that the finish line is the other side of the intersection. anyway, it's a bit of a stretch to compare a car that can actually corner and has leather-chair-in-the-living-room comfort to a camaro. ar-jedi I'm not sure if you're saying the BMW had already won the race by the time the turbo had spooked up? Please clarify a little better please. No kidding BS story is BS.... Those camaros and new challengers are both over hyped all to hell and back. Hell I have an 06 350z with a little v6 in it that will and has out preformed both many times in red light challenges and long stretches. Ok so you're one of the car ignorants here. Obviously it's not a new camaro. It had a 6.0 badge. The new camaros come factory with a 6.2. The 6.0 swap is basically a bolt in on a 4th gen. I would bet monies the car in question is a 4th gen with an iron 6.0 and a truck manifold home built turbo kit. Probably a tc76 turbo. A STOCK 4th gen f body will outrun a 550i. And then add a 6.0 with supporting mods and a damn turbo? You're looking at a 600cc sport bike killer on moderate boost. And a liter bike contender on high boost and built motor. Yes the new camaros ARE heavy turds. Slower than stock 4th gens. |
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Posted: 10/6/2012 9:15:12 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/6/2012 9:16:06 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/6/2012 9:27:56 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/6/2012 9:48:36 AM EDT
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How many mullets were sported in the Camero SS? If I remember clearly..... it was a mullet, mirror sunglasses and a goatee mustache
could you hear the Bon Jovi CD clearly? What song was playing?
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Posted: 10/6/2012 10:10:02 AM EDT
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anyway, it's a bit of a stretch to compare a car that can actually corner and has leather-chair-in-the-living-room comfort to a camaro. +1 And won't rattle apart in a year. hardee har har first of all, that camaro would easily whip the ass of the BMW for both cornering and accelleration. second, BMWs are built like shit, they're right up there with volkswagen I used to be friends with a guy who worked at the biggest BMW dealership in florida the salesmen would stand behind the customers and pretend to shear their hair - "shearing the sheep" he told me that they had a huge repo rate on the cars, all the phony wannabees getting in over their head As a person that's been around the muscle car stuff for years I'm going to call bullshit on this. I love me some v8 power but I'm smart enough to know that some grocery getters aren't made to fuck around with. Camaros are pathetic in the corners. the "family car" in question is a $70,000 400 hp V8 that runs low 13s. That's a "grocery getter" now?  Yup, just like mom's old station wagon with the primered fender and slant six.
the camaro in question is a car that runs low 13s in stock form and can be made to run in the 12s easy with the turbo shit on it. BMWs are the most overrated car out there. How about this idea: get the top of the line factory camaro, which I think runs around $55K and put it up against a $55K BMW and see who wins |
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Posted: 10/6/2012 10:18:42 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: How many mullets were sported in the Camero SS? If I remember clearly..... it was a mullet, mirror sunglasses and a goatee mustache could you hear the Bon Jovi CD clearly? What song was playing?  http://youtu.be/2ZjviMmXIY8- Clint I was actually mad at the kids for not recognizing the baddassery before their very eyes. Fuckin' kids. |
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Posted: 10/6/2012 10:29:03 AM EDT
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anyway, it's a bit of a stretch to compare a car that can actually corner and has leather-chair-in-the-living-room comfort to a camaro. +1 And won't rattle apart in a year. hardee har har first of all, that camaro would easily whip the ass of the BMW for both cornering and accelleration. second, BMWs are built like shit, they're right up there with volkswagen I used to be friends with a guy who worked at the biggest BMW dealership in florida the salesmen would stand behind the customers and pretend to shear their hair - "shearing the sheep" he told me that they had a huge repo rate on the cars, all the phony wannabees getting in over their head As a person that's been around the muscle car stuff for years I'm going to call bullshit on this. I love me some v8 power but I'm smart enough to know that some grocery getters aren't made to fuck around with. Camaros are pathetic in the corners. Stock? Maybe. Other than stock? I have to disagree. <a href="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/163/imag0366sw.jpg/" target="_blank">http://imageshack.us/a/img163/8688/imag0366sw.jpg</a> Uploaded with ImageShack.us how much horsepower does that body kit add 
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Posted: 10/6/2012 10:36:36 AM EDT
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anyway, it's a bit of a stretch to compare a car that can actually corner and has leather-chair-in-the-living-room comfort to a camaro. +1 And won't rattle apart in a year. hardee har har first of all, that camaro would easily whip the ass of the BMW for both cornering and accelleration. second, BMWs are built like shit, they're right up there with volkswagen I used to be friends with a guy who worked at the biggest BMW dealership in florida the salesmen would stand behind the customers and pretend to shear their hair - "shearing the sheep" he told me that they had a huge repo rate on the cars, all the phony wannabees getting in over their head As a person that's been around the muscle car stuff for years I'm going to call bullshit on this. I love me some v8 power but I'm smart enough to know that some grocery getters aren't made to fuck around with. Camaros are pathetic in the corners. Stock? Maybe. Other than stock? I have to disagree. <a href="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/163/imag0366sw.jpg/" target="_blank">http://imageshack.us/a/img163/8688/imag0366sw.jpg</a> Uploaded with ImageShack.us how much horsepower does that body kit add You mean the factory RS kit? 
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Posted: 10/6/2012 10:46:39 AM EDT
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How many mullets were sported in the Camero SS? If I remember clearly..... it was a mullet, mirror sunglasses and a goatee mustache
could you hear the Bon Jovi CD clearly? What song was playing? http://youtu.be/2ZjviMmXIY8
- Clint I was actually mad at the kids for not recognizing the baddassery before their very eyes. Fuckin' kids. No shit! When the hell did they change the rules? I very clearly remember when a '70s TA and Billy Squier's "The Stroke" were the coolest things in the known universe! 
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Posted: 10/6/2012 11:13:34 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/6/2012 11:16:52 AM EDT
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The F body had a turbo 6.0 no replacement for displacement, True power comes from boost Cubic dollars will beat cubic inches every day. |
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Posted: 10/6/2012 11:41:40 AM EDT
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2 cars in a totally different class and price point. now take a CTSV which is comparable in price and luxury to the BMW and lets see.... oh wait isnt the caddy the worlds fastest sedan and also wagon
or the 55grand zl1 camaro that is over 20 grand less and will still out accellerate and corner the bmw. if you go to any drag race track and look around, most of the fast truely driveable street cars there are LSx powered cars. and also you dont see ford dodge or anything else swapped into a chevy car but you see the others with lSx and other GM power plants. lsx motors are the best for building power and fuel economy. and have the biggest aftermarket parts supply. i have a 2004 zo6 vette with heads and cam that i can still get almost 30mpg out of it and has well over 500hp. (not dynoed or tuned yet). or just take a 120grand zr1 vette and beable to beat 99% of all street cars ever made weather its in the 1/4 or a road track. it comes down to money and how driveable you want it but any car brand and make can be made to go fast.
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Posted: 10/6/2012 1:41:48 PM EDT
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Saw a family car get froggy with a SS Camaro at the light Some lady driving with a lead foot....appeared to have her husband in the passenger seat and a child seat in the rear. Took off from the light nicely in her 550 BMW but then I heard the turbo spool up in the SS and it was over... The F body had a turbo 6.0 a 550i gets to 60mph in 4.8 seconds –– with an automatic transmission. by the time you "heard the turbo spool up" the race was over –– in fact any street guy will tell you that the finish line is the other side of the intersection. anyway, it's a bit of a stretch to compare a car that can actually corner and has leather-chair-in-the-living-room comfort to a camaro. ar-jedi I'm not sure if you're saying the BMW had already won the race by the time the turbo had spooked up? Please clarify a little better please. here, let me help: OP's story, clarified: "i saw a guy in a GM sportscar sprint race against a lady driving a 4 door luxury touring sedan, and only 'after the turbo spooled up' did the GM sportscar narrowly prevail." n.b. IMHO there are other factors to consider in a search for automotive bliss, besides a race to the other side of the intersection. ar-jedi |
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Posted: 10/6/2012 1:44:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/6/2012 1:48:14 PM EDT
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2 cars in a totally different class and price point. now take a CTSV which is comparable in price and luxury to the BMW and lets see.... oh wait isnt the caddy the worlds fastest sedan and also wagon or the 55grand zl1 camaro that is over 20 grand less and will still out accellerate and corner the bmw. if you go to any drag race track and look around, most of the fast truely driveable street cars there are LSx powered cars. and also you dont see ford dodge or anything else swapped into a chevy car but you see the others with lSx and other GM power plants. lsx motors are the best for building power and fuel economy. and have the biggest aftermarket parts supply. i have a 2004 zo6 vette with heads and cam that i can still get almost 30mpg out of it and has well over 500hp. (not dynoed or tuned yet). or just take a 120grand zr1 vette and beable to beat 99% of all street cars ever made weather its in the 1/4 or a road track. it comes down to money and how driveable you want it but any car brand and make can be made to go fast.holy shit, that was hard to read
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Posted: 10/6/2012 2:44:34 PM EDT
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Saw a family car get froggy with a SS Camaro at the light Some lady driving with a lead foot....appeared to have her husband in the passenger seat and a child seat in the rear. Took off from the light nicely in her 550 BMW but then I heard the turbo spool up in the SS and it was over... The F body had a turbo 6.0 a 550i gets to 60mph in 4.8 seconds –– with an automatic transmission. by the time you "heard the turbo spool up" the race was over –– in fact any street guy will tell you that the finish line is the other side of the intersection. anyway, it's a bit of a stretch to compare a car that can actually corner and has leather-chair-in-the-living-room comfort to a camaro. ar-jedi I'm not sure if you're saying the BMW had already won the race by the time the turbo had spooked up? Please clarify a little better please. here, let me help: OP's story, clarified: "i saw a guy in a GM sportscar sprint race against a lady driving a 4 door luxury touring sedan, and only 'after the turbo spooled up' did the GM sportscar narrowly prevail." n.b. IMHO there are other factors to consider in a search for automotive bliss, besides a race to the other side of the intersection. ar-jedi Lmao. K |
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Posted: 10/6/2012 5:01:23 PM EDT
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How about this idea: get the top of the line factory camaro, which I think runs around $55K and put it up against a $55K BMW and see who wins the M3 wins. 1) it's not made by GM. 2) see #1. 3) women. classy women, not trailer trash. 
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Posted: 10/6/2012 6:29:59 PM EDT
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How about this idea: get the top of the line factory camaro, which I think runs around $55K and put it up against a $55K BMW and see who wins the M3 wins. 1) it's not made by GM. 2) see #1. 3) women. classy women, not trailer trash.
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Posted: 10/6/2012 6:33:25 PM EDT
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How about this idea: get the top of the line factory camaro, which I think runs around $55K and put it up against a $55K BMW and see who wins the M3 wins. 1) it's not made by GM. 2) see #1. 3) women. classy women, not trailer trash.
q.e.d. ar-jedi So my girlfriend is trailer trash? cool arguement bros |
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Posted: 10/6/2012 6:40:34 PM EDT
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holy crap this thread got retarded
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Posted: 10/6/2012 7:21:01 PM EDT
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2 cars in a totally different class and price point. now take a CTSV which is comparable in price and luxury to the BMW and lets see.... oh wait isnt the caddy the worlds fastest sedan and also wagon or the 55grand zl1 camaro that is over 20 grand less and will still out accellerate and corner the bmw. if you go to any drag race track and look around, most of the fast truely driveable street cars there are LSx powered cars. and also you dont see ford dodge or anything else swapped into a chevy car but you see the others with lSx and other GM power plants. lsx motors are the best for building power and fuel economy. and have the biggest aftermarket parts supply. i have a 2004 zo6 vette with heads and cam that i can still get almost 30mpg out of it and has well over 500hp. (not dynoed or tuned yet). or just take a 120grand zr1 vette and beable to beat 99% of all street cars ever made weather its in the 1/4 or a road track. it comes down to money and how driveable you want it but any car brand and make can be made to go fast.holy shit, that was hard to read I imagine a person of equal mental capacity to ar15newcomer was able to read it without difficulty. Who's the tard now? |
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Posted: 10/6/2012 7:26:16 PM EDT
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holy crap this thread got retarded Its GD,would you expect any less? |
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Posted: 10/6/2012 7:36:28 PM EDT
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anyway, it's a bit of a stretch to compare a car that can actually corner and has leather-chair-in-the-living-room comfort to a camaro. +1 And won't rattle apart in a year. hardee har har first of all, that camaro would easily whip the ass of the BMW for both cornering and accelleration. second, BMWs are built like shit, they're right up there with volkswagen I used to be friends with a guy who worked at the biggest BMW dealership in florida the salesmen would stand behind the customers and pretend to shear their hair - "shearing the sheep" he told me that they had a huge repo rate on the cars, all the phony wannabees getting in over their head As a person that's been around the muscle car stuff for years I'm going to call bullshit on this. I love me some v8 power but I'm smart enough to know that some grocery getters aren't made to fuck around with. Camaros are pathetic in the corners. the "family car" in question is a $70,000 400 hp V8 that runs low 13s. That's a "grocery getter" now? Yup, just like mom's old station wagon with the primered fender and slant six.
the camaro in question is a car that runs low 13s in stock form and can be made to run in the 12s easy with the turbo shit on it. BMWs are the most overrated car out there. How about this idea: get the top of the line factory camaro, which I think runs around $55K and put it up against a $55K BMW and see who wins In what category? |
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Posted: 10/6/2012 7:53:55 PM EDT
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Saw a family car get froggy with a SS Camaro at the light Some lady driving with a lead foot....appeared to have her husband in the passenger seat and a child seat in the rear. Took off from the light nicely in her 550 BMW but then I heard the turbo spool up in the SS and it was over... The F body had a turbo 6.0 Is there an English translation of this? |
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Posted: 10/6/2012 8:00:07 PM EDT
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Saw a family car get froggy with a SS Camaro at the light Some lady driving with a lead foot....appeared to have her husband in the passenger seat and a child seat in the rear. Took off from the light nicely in her 550 BMW but then I heard the turbo spool up in the SS and it was over... The F body had a turbo 6.0 Is there an English translation of this? i summarized earlier in the thread: (link) OP's story, clarified: "i saw a guy in a GM sportscar sprint race against a lady driving a 4 door luxury touring sedan, and only 'after the turbo spooled up' did the GM sportscar narrowly prevail." ar-jedi |
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Posted: 10/6/2012 8:08:25 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/6/2012 8:14:37 PM EDT
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Street racing is for idiots.
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Posted: 10/7/2012 12:44:32 AM EDT
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Saw a family car get froggy with a SS Camaro at the light Some lady driving with a lead foot....appeared to have her husband in the passenger seat and a child seat in the rear. Took off from the light nicely in her 550 BMW but then I heard the turbo spool up in the SS and it was over... The F body had a turbo 6.0 Is there an English translation of this? i summarized earlier in the thread: (link) OP's story, clarified: "i saw a guy in a GM sportscar sprint race against a lady driving a 4 door luxury touring sedan, and only 'after the turbo spooled up' did the GM sportscar narrowly prevail." ar-jedi Thanks, I read that a few minutes after I posted it. Not used to efficiency here at GD. |
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Posted: 10/7/2012 3:40:33 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: On a much more interesting note, I smoked a guy in a WRX through some twisties the other day in my Mini. With snow tires on. While smoking a cigarette. And using my right hand to shift and keep a wine bottle from sliding off the front seat. -csb Funny It's fun to surprise folks with a sleeper. I had a little miata that looked completely stock (well it had a rollbar) but it had a high end suspension and put out ~370hp at the back wheels. Let's just say there were a lot of unhappy mustang and camero drivers in Birmingham for a few years.  Holey schmokes!  |
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Posted: 10/7/2012 4:47:51 AM EDT
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How about this idea: get the top of the line factory camaro, which I think runs around $55K and put it up against a $55K BMW and see who wins the M3 wins. 1) it's not made by GM. 2) see #1. 3) women. classy women, not trailer trash.
q.e.d. ar-jedi So my girlfriend is trailer trash? I drive a 12 year old 150hp Japanese car that looks like a yellow toad.My GF is a tall,skinny hottie. If anyone relies on a car for their manliness...
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Posted: 10/7/2012 5:33:55 AM EDT
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anyway, it's a bit of a stretch to compare a car that can actually corner and has leather-chair-in-the-living-room comfort to a camaro. +1 And won't rattle apart in a year. hardee har har first of all, that camaro would easily whip the ass of the BMW for both cornering and accelleration. second, BMWs are built like shit, they're right up there with volkswagen I used to be friends with a guy who worked at the biggest BMW dealership in florida the salesmen would stand behind the customers and pretend to shear their hair - "shearing the sheep" he told me that they had a huge repo rate on the cars, all the phony wannabees getting in over their head As a person that's been around the muscle car stuff for years I'm going to call bullshit on this. I love me some v8 power but I'm smart enough to know that some grocery getters aren't made to fuck around with. Camaros are pathetic in the corners. Stock? Maybe. Other than stock? I have to disagree. <a href="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/163/imag0366sw.jpg/" target="_blank">http://imageshack.us/a/img163/8688/imag0366sw.jpg</a> Uploaded with ImageShack.us So your z28 is able to corner better than a BMW? 
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Posted: 10/7/2012 5:41:07 AM EDT
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2 cars in a totally different class and price point. now take a CTSV which is comparable in price and luxury to the BMW and lets see.... oh wait isnt the caddy the worlds fastest sedan and also wagon or the 55grand zl1 camaro that is over 20 grand less and will still out accellerate and corner the bmw. if you go to any drag race track and look around, most of the fast truely driveable street cars there are LSx powered cars. and also you dont see ford dodge or anything else swapped into a chevy car but you see the others with lSx and other GM power plants. lsx motors are the best for building power and fuel economy. and have the biggest aftermarket parts supply. i have a 2004 zo6 vette with heads and cam that i can still get almost 30mpg out of it and has well over 500hp. (not dynoed or tuned yet). or just take a 120grand zr1 vette and beable to beat 99% of all street cars ever made weather its in the 1/4 or a road track. it comes down to money and how driveable you want it but any car brand and make can be made to go fast.holy shit, that was hard to read I imagine a person of equal mental capacity to ar15newcomer was able to read it without difficulty. Who's the tard now? lolwut this isnt the youtube comment section?
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Posted: 10/7/2012 5:55:56 AM EDT
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2 cars in a totally different class and price point. now take a CTSV which is comparable in price and luxury to the BMW and lets see.... oh wait isnt the caddy the worlds fastest sedan and also wagon or the 55grand zl1 camaro that is over 20 grand less and will still out accellerate and corner the bmw. if you go to any drag race track and look around, most of the fast truely driveable street cars there are LSx powered cars. and also you dont see ford dodge or anything else swapped into a chevy car but you see the others with lSx and other GM power plants. lsx motors are the best for building power and fuel economy. and have the biggest aftermarket parts supply. i have a 2004 zo6 vette with heads and cam that i can still get almost 30mpg out of it and has well over 500hp. (not dynoed or tuned yet). or just take a 120grand zr1 vette and beable to beat 99% of all street cars ever made weather its in the 1/4 or a road track. it comes down to money and how driveable you want it but any car brand and make can be made to go fast.What ahead and cam package are you running in your Z? Because "we'll over 500hp" UNTUNED is pretty hard to believe with just a head and cam setup.
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Posted: 10/7/2012 6:41:11 AM EDT
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anyway, it's a bit of a stretch to compare a car that can actually corner and has leather-chair-in-the-living-room comfort to a camaro. +1 And won't rattle apart in a year. hardee har har first of all, that camaro would easily whip the ass of the BMW for both cornering and accelleration. second, BMWs are built like shit, they're right up there with volkswagen I used to be friends with a guy who worked at the biggest BMW dealership in florida the salesmen would stand behind the customers and pretend to shear their hair - "shearing the sheep" he told me that they had a huge repo rate on the cars, all the phony wannabees getting in over their head As a person that's been around the muscle car stuff for years I'm going to call bullshit on this. I love me some v8 power but I'm smart enough to know that some grocery getters aren't made to fuck around with. Camaros are pathetic in the corners. Stock? Maybe. Other than stock? I have to disagree. <a href="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/163/imag0366sw.jpg/" target="_blank">http://imageshack.us/a/img163/8688/imag0366sw.jpg</a> Uploaded with ImageShack.us So your z28 is able to corner better than a BMW? That's not what you said. You said "Camaros are pathetic in the corners". With 315s in the back, 275s in the front, not a single stock suspension part on the the car and 470hp on motor, it gets around corners just fine. I don't know if it corners better than a BMW. I don't care. However, I would imagine it'll hold it's own.
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anyway, it's a bit of a stretch to compare a car that can actually corner and has leather-chair-in-the-living-room comfort to a camaro. +1 And won't rattle apart in a year. hardee har har first of all, that camaro would easily whip the ass of the BMW for both cornering and accelleration. second, BMWs are built like shit, they're right up there with volkswagen I used to be friends with a guy who worked at the biggest BMW dealership in florida the salesmen would stand behind the customers and pretend to shear their hair - "shearing the sheep" he told me that they had a huge repo rate on the cars, all the phony wannabees getting in over their head As a person that's been around the muscle car stuff for years I'm going to call bullshit on this. I love me some v8 power but I'm smart enough to know that some grocery getters aren't made to fuck around with. Camaros are pathetic in the corners. Stock? Maybe. Other than stock? I have to disagree. <a href="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/163/imag0366sw.jpg/" target="_blank">http://imageshack.us/a/img163/8688/imag0366sw.jpg</a> Uploaded with ImageShack.us So your z28 is able to corner better than a BMW? That's not what you said. You said "Camaros are pathetic in the corners". With 315s in the back, 275s in the front, not a single stock suspension part on the the car and 470hp on motor, it gets around corners just fine. I don't know if it corners better than a BMW. I don't care. However, I would imagine it'll hold it's own.The idea being presented here is that dumb old american iron was smoked by a woman driving a "grocery getter". This isn't a discussion of facts as a "fun idea" that's being kicked around by a bunch of yahoos who don't know anything about cars. The fact that a $70K BMW has the same 1/4 mile times as the base model mustang or camaro is not of interest. The fact that a $50K mustang will do 11.6 second 1/4 mile time is not of interest. By the way, that is an amazing number. The fact that a $50K mustang or camaro will pull 1.0 g of lateral accelleration in corners is not of interest. It's just a gun shop bubba thread. Like the american cars will rattle apart in a year and the BMW has awesome build quality. Righty-oh |
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Posted: 10/7/2012 7:16:55 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: 2 cars in a totally different class and price point. now take a CTSV which is comparable in price and luxury to the BMW and lets see.... oh wait isnt the caddy the worlds fastest sedan and also wagon or the 55grand zl1 camaro that is over 20 grand less and will still out accellerate and corner the bmw. if you go to any drag race track and look around, most of the fast truely driveable street cars there are LSx powered cars. and also you dont see ford dodge or anything else swapped into a chevy car but you see the others with lSx and other GM power plants. lsx motors are the best for building power and fuel economy. and have the biggest aftermarket parts supply. i have a 2004 zo6 vette with heads and cam that i can still get almost 30mpg out of it and has well over 500hp. (not dynoed or tuned yet). or just take a 120grand zr1 vette and beable to beat 99% of all street cars ever made weather its in the 1/4 or a road track. it comes down to money and how driveable you want it but any car brand and make can be made to go fast.What ahead and cam package are you running in your Z? Because "we'll over 500hp" UNTUNED is pretty hard to believe with just a head and cam setup. Probably has one of those 300HP racing stripe kits installed |
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Must have swapped engines if they really had a 6 liter. He haz a swapped badge, and it doesn't take much to beat a 550. I turbo 6.0 ls based motor would have totally fucked shit up. You ran into a poser op. You would think if someone was going to swap in an LS2, they'd have an LS2 badge instead. That's because it's probably not an LS2, but a 6.0L out of a truck. Pretty common swap for forced induction actually. |
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