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Posted: 9/3/2008 7:18:12 AM EDT

[#1]

Casualty means wounded. Could be a lost limb or paralysis. Could be bomb fragments.

Posted: 9/3/2008 7:22:34 AM EDT

[#2]

I am just glad to see that someone is on the ball enough to make sure someone is watching over these guys to ensure they are not too mean to the animals as they kill them

The mere mention that they have a group who has oversight and is watching for criminal misconduct as they attack these animals tells me that all these years later we still don't have the proper mindset.

Just simply trust our troops until they go off the reservation and don't have possible prosecution as part of the battle plan.

Posted: 9/3/2008 7:24:01 AM EDT

[#3]

Quoted:
Casualty means wounded. Could be a lost limb or paralysis. Could be bomb fragments.

Could be a concussion. Most "casualties" are not enough to get a discharge, thankfully.

Posted: 9/3/2008 7:28:42 AM EDT

[#4]

Quoted:
I am just glad to see that someone is on the ball enough to make sure someone is watching over these guys to ensure they are not too mean to the animals as they kill them

The mere mention that they have a group who has oversight and is watching for criminal misconduct as they attack these animals tells me that all these years later we still don't have the proper mindset.

Just simply trust our troops until they go off the reservation and don't have possible prosecution as part of the battle plan.

I was waiting for someone to open there mouth.

The British have covered their troops with common law while serving abroad since the glory days of the Empire. They have always treated insurgencies with the same car that they they treat civil disturbances in Britain with.

While they are much, much more willing to kill people, both at home and abroad, they have more rules. It's worked for them pretty well. They've won most of the insurgencies that they've fought, one way or another.

Posted: 9/3/2008 7:35:56 AM EDT

[#5]

good for them

Posted: 9/3/2008 7:38:46 AM EDT

[#6]

oo-yah!

Posted: 9/3/2008 7:41:09 AM EDT

[#7]

from global security:

Sounds like a bunch of mean motherfuckers - wow: talk about the varsity team!

Task Force 145 [TF 145]

Task Force 145 is a secretive collection of the U.S. elite troops, operating under Joint Special Operations Command, which was tasked with hunting down Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.

TF 145 is comprised of elements of the Army’s 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment-Delta (better known as Delta Force), SEAL Team 6, the Army’s 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment and 75th Ranger Regiment, the Air Force’s 24th Special Tactics Squadron and Britain's Special Air Service. It is also believed that various intelligence agencies have a classified presence in TF 145 as well.

According to an April 28, 2006 Army Times article, TF 145 is headquartered at Balad Air Base and is "divided into four subordinate task forces in Iraq :

* Task Force West, organized around a SEAL Team 6 squadron with Rangers in support.
* Task Force Central, organized around a Delta squadron with Rangers in support.
* Task Force North, organized around a Ranger battalion combined with a small Delta element.
* Task Force Black, organized around a British Special Air Service “saber squadron,” with British paratroopers from the Special Forces Support Group in support."

Each of these sub-teams is reported to be highly autonomous and authorized to conduct raids without higher approval. In the months prior to al-Zarqawi's death on June 7, 2006, two such raids were conducted by TF 145 in the Iraqi town of Yusufiyah. While these raids failed to apprehend al-Zarqawi, they reportedly resulted in the killing or capture of 22 of his followers and the gathering of invaluable intelligence. The raid also allegedly netted an unedited copy of an al-Zarqawi propaganda tape. The tape showed the terrorist leader fumbling with a machine gun and one of his followers subsequently grabbing the hot barrel of the gun. The tape was later widely distributed by Coalition forces as an anti-propaganda tool.

On May 2, 2006 CBS News reported that Lt. Gen. Stan McChrystal, commander of the Joint Special Operations Command, was advocating for the allocation of an infantry battalion from the 82nd Airborne to support Task Force 145's logistics. Whether this request was ever granted is unclear.

Posted: 9/3/2008 7:42:42 AM EDT

[#8]

warm fuzzies

Posted: 9/3/2008 7:49:20 AM EDT

[#9]

Posted: 9/3/2008 7:49:48 AM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:
Hmm - so this begs the question... why is our Delta Force mortality rate so darn high?

As pointed out earlier, casualties are not all fatal. Just getting into Delta requires incredible strength and stamina. Just the physical endurance tests to get into the unit are enough to push a lot of folks past their physical breaking point.

Delta training isn't a picnic either. The Delta guys have to basically have the physical conditioning of an olympic level athlete just to keep up. Their training tempo is very high and the kind of stuff they train to do is inherently risky. People tear up joints, break bones, and sometimes suffer more severe injuries than that just training. Some of them are career ending injuries. Some of them require time and effort to come back from. That doesn't even mention the dangers and hazards in the field.

They are HCMFs....but none of them have an S on their chest and wear a cape. Being a HCMF doesn't stop bullets, bombs, or Murphy.

Posted: 9/3/2008 7:52:02 AM EDT

[#11]

Quoted:

Posted: 9/3/2008 7:52:38 AM EDT

[#12]

Half of them were killed by McNab...

Posted: 9/3/2008 8:46:19 AM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:

Long Live the Anglosphere!

Absolutely +1

Posted: 9/3/2008 8:48:44 AM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Hmm - so this begs the question... why is our Delta Force mortality rate so darn high?

20% casualty rate does not equal 20% mortality.

True, and 20% of what?

Posted: 9/3/2008 8:58:23 AM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:
Hmm - so this begs the question... why is our Delta Force mortality rate so darn high?

It's not.

Posted: 9/3/2008 8:59:18 AM EDT

[#16]

kill em all, kill em twice

Posted: 9/3/2008 9:12:15 AM EDT

[#17]

TF Black - SAS/SBS

TF Blue - DEVGRU

TF Green - 'Delta Force'

TF Orange - ISA

Posted: 9/3/2008 9:16:56 AM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:
I think its a bit much for them to give us all the credit, but well done to them all

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ETA: By us I mean the UK forces. Not that I'm in the SAS

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Every round on target counts...

The press is about that bad over here too...

Posted: 9/3/2008 9:24:22 AM EDT

[#19]

Living their motto, through and through.

Posted: 9/3/2008 9:36:42 AM EDT

[#20]

British cowboys. Rock on SAS.

Posted: 9/3/2008 9:54:45 AM EDT

[#21]

The Western world needs to relearn the art of ruthlessness. The SAS seems like they haven't forgotten. You're supposed to hunt down and kill the enemy, so many of us, at least here in the states, seem to think you're supposed to hunt them down, give them a copy of the koran, a free meal, a public defender, a court date, a million dollar book deal and a professorship at an ivy league college.

Posted: 9/3/2008 10:03:01 AM EDT

[#22]

Thats a lot of badguys they wacked.

Posted: 9/3/2008 10:13:00 AM EDT

[#23]

Quoted:
The Western world needs to relearn the art of ruthlessness. The SAS seems like they haven't forgotten. You're supposed to hunt down and kill the enemy, so many of us, at least here in the states, seem to think you're supposed to hunt them down, give them a copy of the koran, a free meal, a public defender, a court date, a million dollar book deal and a professorship at an ivy league college.

The SAS have a long and storied history of sorting out oxygen thieves in a very direct and enthusiastic manner, but they are not the only ones doing so.

Everyone has friends, and those friends have friends, and those friends of friends have stories. I'll just say that I lived for a time next door to our Nation's premier pipehitters, and their birds were parked directly across the street from our house. About every other night in the wee hours my sleep was interrupted by those birds spooling up and flying out to bring hate, pain and high velocity central nervous system hammers to those in desperate need.

I have it on good authority that literally the last thing Abu Musab al Zarqawi saw before Satan's cock entered his sphincter in Hades was an American flag velcroed to a camouflage sleeve. You might say that a point was made to be sure that his dying image was of the Colors.

Posted: 9/3/2008 10:30:35 AM EDT

[#24]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The Western world needs to relearn the art of ruthlessness. The SAS seems like they haven't forgotten. You're supposed to hunt down and kill the enemy, so many of us, at least here in the states, seem to think you're supposed to hunt them down, give them a copy of the koran, a free meal, a public defender, a court date, a million dollar book deal and a professorship at an ivy league college.

The SAS have a long and storied history of sorting out oxygen thieves in a very direct and enthusiastic manner, but they are not the only ones doing so.

Everyone has friends, and those friends have friends, and those friends of friends have stories. I'll just say that I lived for a time next door to our Nation's premier pipehitters, and their birds were parked directly across the street from our house. About every other night in the wee hours my sleep was interrupted by those birds spooling up and flying out to bring hate, pain and high velocity central nervous system hammers to those in desperate need.

I have it on good authority that literally the last thing Abu Musab al Zarqawi saw before Satan's cock entered his sphincter in Hades was an American flag velcroed to a camouflage sleeve. You might say that a point was made to be sure that his dying image was of the Colors.

Yay!

Posted: 9/3/2008 10:41:18 AM EDT

[#25]

Truly bad ass......

Posted: 9/3/2008 11:21:24 AM EDT

[#26]

Posted: 9/3/2008 11:27:57 AM EDT

[#27]

on us gents.

Posted: 9/5/2008 5:16:29 PM EDT

[#28]

Quoted:
TF Black - SAS/SBS

TF Blue - DEVGRU

TF Green - 'Delta Force'

TF Orange - ISA

I'm up for it

I'll be

TF Pink----- AKA Mr Pink

Posted: 9/5/2008 5:25:03 PM EDT

[#29]

Posted: 9/5/2008 5:28:26 PM EDT

[#30]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I am just glad to see that someone is on the ball enough to make sure someone is watching over these guys to ensure they are not too mean to the animals as they kill them

The mere mention that they have a group who has oversight and is watching for criminal misconduct as they attack these animals tells me that all these years later we still don't have the proper mindset.

Just simply trust our troops until they go off the reservation and don't have possible prosecution as part of the battle plan.

I was waiting for someone to open there mouth.

The British have covered their troops with common law while serving abroad since the glory days of the Empire. They have always treated insurgencies with the same car that they they treat civil disturbances in Britain with.

While they are much, much more willing to kill people, both at home and abroad, they have more rules. It's worked for them pretty well. They've won most of the insurgencies that they've fought, one way or another.

An elegant summary of an incredibly complicated and ancient system that combines "weapons free" with accountability.

Posted: 9/7/2008 4:29:30 PM EDT

[#31]

Quoted:
This doesn't strike me as anything new.
For some time there's been strong rumours of British units running around Baghdad with US uniforms (with no insignia) with American vehicles and weapons, mainly acting as QRF for the sneeky beaky hooligans while they've been going about their business of fucking up the bad guys

The concept isn't new, but the technology we are using to track them includes some new angles.

If anyone caught the 60 Minutes interview with Bob Woodward this evening, he alluded to it, and was as serious as a MF-er about its effectiveness and its impact.

He implied it is a super-secret and ongoing effort to track, capture and kill leaders of Al Qaeda in Iraq, rogue militia-men, and general despots.

We have Teams in the field as we speak making it happen. HCMF-ers to be sure.

Posted: 9/7/2008 4:39:58 PM EDT

[#32]

Excellent

Posted: 9/7/2008 5:26:48 PM EDT

[#33]

[golfclap] Well done, lads.

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