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Quoted: Anything that reduces the global population of russians, is a good thing for the world, they have been a cancer on humanity for 100 years. View Quote We’ll, just hand over all the hot chicks that aren’t psycho {applies worldwide} and I consider the terms acceptable Attached File |
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.....exit global pandemic (bullshit)
.....enter global war (bullshit) I'm going back to chopping wood. |
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Mobilizing 300K is one thing. Getting them to the field as a trained, competent fighting force with the necessary logistics is something entirely different.
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Always wondered what the Russians have in storage. There's o way Russia should be low on a lot of things like artillery. The Soviet's ran the arms factories for decades. But the. Why were they buying from best Korea and China?
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Quoted: Anything that reduces the global population of russians, is a good thing for the world, they have been a cancer on humanity for 100 years. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Anything that reduces the global population of russians, is a good thing for the world, they have been a cancer on humanity for 100 years. You can say the same about many ethnicities but some will get you banned. |
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Quoted: Quoted: If people who dont want to ruin their economy or be dragged into a war that is none of their business, for the sake of corrupt government are "Vichy-st" does that make you a 1940s communist, by the same logic ? Ps : I don't support Russian invasion. To make it clear to the simpler minded. Exactly. Well said. TC no it's not. Years ago you guys were probably arguing in WW2 threads .. damning the French and English for appeasement instead of stopping Hitler before he had a huge land army. |
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Quoted: Mobilizing 300K is one thing. Getting them to the field as a trained, competent fighting force with the necessary logistics is something entirely different. View Quote Both sides. Good news UK increased Ukrainian training by 2 weeks but I have no clue for Russia. We’ll see how both sides handled trainings and logistics next year. |
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Very good thread follows on why mobilisation is a problem for Putin
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Quoted: Very good thread follows on why mobilisation is a problem for Putin
View Quote They even spell mobilization like a bunch of commies… |
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Quoted: no it's not. Years ago you guys were probably arguing in WW2 threads .. damning the French and English for appeasement instead of stopping Hitler before he had a huge land army. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If people who dont want to ruin their economy or be dragged into a war that is none of their business, for the sake of corrupt government are "Vichy-st" does that make you a 1940s communist, by the same logic ? Ps : I don't support Russian invasion. To make it clear to the simpler minded. Exactly. Well said. TC no it's not. Years ago you guys were probably arguing in WW2 threads .. damning the French and English for appeasement instead of stopping Hitler before he had a huge land army. Yeah, no. Apples to oranges. I'm 100% sure, Hitler didn't have NW's and the ability to turn the hemisphere into glass. |
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Quoted: NNNOOOO!!! Russia sucks! Ukraine is just regular people trying to live their lives. There’s no money laundering. Or labs. Or corruption. The Sovie…I mean Russia sucks! TC View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: We are giving them NG as well? And they need winter uniforms? Who squirreled 87 bazillion dollars away instead of using it for war? Glad my tax dollars were used in a money laundering scheme. NNNOOOO!!! Russia sucks! Ukraine is just regular people trying to live their lives. There’s no money laundering. Or labs. Or corruption. The Sovie…I mean Russia sucks! TC At least your posts are consistently fucked in the head. Still trotting out that lab bullshit? JFC. |
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Quoted: Potato is giving it all on our dime, it's not like were selling it, I don't know if we'll survive another year, we can't just keep giving away shit from our reserves, this is exactly what russia, and china want. I'd start digging a bunker, but I'm 1/4 mile from an air force base that stocks nukes. View Quote I agree. While we watch our saving eaten away, we give nat gas, cash, and weapons to Ukraine. Russia will lose and go home beaten. Then what? No one will follow them. No one will end shit. He will slowly rebuild and the next "president" of Russia will do the same thing. What do we get for our investment? Jack shit. It does nothing but make politicians richer. It's just more wealth transfer. |
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LOL! Desperation. Putin is orchestrating his own demise and may just topple himself.
Ukraine isn't even fully mobilized. Not even close. Ukrainians will continue to hand Russia it's ass. |
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Quoted: I suspect that we won’t like what comes after Putin. They may withdraw from Ukraine if he gets deposed or dies but they will continue to be a rival. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's one thing having impoverished Asian Russians getting whacked in this "operation", it will be entirely different sending fathers and son's from average Russian households home in a zinc lined box. Six months from now, Putin will be putting up with demonstrations and public opinion turning against him. Putin will die a lonely old man unloved by the entire world. Maybe. I heard for years about the impending collapse of North Korea after the Cold War then I heard no way could North Korea make a nuclear bomb. Same for China. Do an archive search for China will collapse any day now - like Trump any day. These authoritarian / communist / shitholes have figured out how to maintain power. USSR lasted like 70 or 75 years before finally collapsing. Cuba is still a communist shithole post Castro’s death! I suspect that we won’t like what comes after Putin. They may withdraw from Ukraine if he gets deposed or dies but they will continue to be a rival. This, theres no coming back for Russia, even if putin is reolaced. No sanctions will be lifted, no seized assets will be returned. They will forever be enemies of ukraine and nato |
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Quoted: Quoted: NNNOOOO!!! Russia sucks! Ukraine is just regular people trying to live their lives. There’s no money laundering. Or labs. Or corruption. The Sovie…I mean Russia sucks! TC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlF_pzB5IwU Johnny, next time you're going to have to supply an interpreter. I tried but couldn't (lasted 7 minutes) understand that video. Is he say'in Ukraine is corrupt? Yeah, can't wait to send them another $40b. |
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Quoted: Have to get to WEF goal of 500 million somehow. View Quote All the hot chicks up in space with me! Moonraker (1979) Official Trailer - Roger Moore James Bond Movie HD MOONRAKER | Attack on Hugo Drax’s space station |
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So Russia is fighting Nazis too...have they connected with Biden so they can coordinate? Reading propaganda, I mean "news" today, it seems that ze Nazis are everywhere...
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Quoted: I agree. While we watch our saving eaten away, we give nat gas, cash, and weapons to Ukraine. Russia will lose and go home beaten. Then what? No one will follow them. No one will end shit. He will slowly rebuild and the next "president" of Russia will do the same thing. What do we get for our investment? Jack shit. It does nothing but make politicians richer. It's just more wealth transfer. View Quote Rebuild with what exactly? Washing machine circuit boards for replacement fighter jets? Melted down match box cars for their replacement T-90’s? |
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Quoted: So Ukraine needs as much alcohol as it can collect to stop any Russian offensive. Here's a warehouse! There's a warehouse! Everywhere along any invasion route is a warehouse. Just go in after three days, disarm them and herd them into camps. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Their reservists are usually old and fat. ..and drunk. So Ukraine needs as much alcohol as it can collect to stop any Russian offensive. Here's a warehouse! There's a warehouse! Everywhere along any invasion route is a warehouse. Just go in after three days, disarm them and herd them into camps. I honestly think that could be a legitimate tactic. If mass amounts of cheap vodka were suddenly available behind the lines of Russian forces, good god... |
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Quoted: I honestly think that could be a legitimate tactic. If mass amounts of cheap vodka were suddenly available behind the lines of Russian forces, good god... View Quote A trick favored by Roger's Rangers back in the day was keeping a poisoned flask of alcohol on them. The idea being that, if killed, their body would get looted and the flask would get drank and the dead Ranger would have the last laugh. Just sayin, Ukraine. |
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Quoted: My guess is China encourages Iran, shit goes down and China always has their lap dog in North Korea. This ties down much of the Army and Air Force. China lately seems to only fixate on US Marines. I would agree with you about Navy but the Chinese seem to portray defeating USMC in their nationalistic stuff the most. View Quote No disrespect to the Army, but would you want a bunch of motivated devil dogs on your front lawn? This the organization that fought the fanatical Japanese to a loss on their own prepared soil. Landed at Wonsan and actually fought the PLA. They have history. Was that the last time the PLA really fought? They didn't do it in a vacuum but if you had to propagandize defeating one group of the opposition, the US Marines are a good choice at least in Asia. |
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Quoted: Seriously. Reservists, using old gear, barely trained... This is just being determined to not admit you failed. But, I guess when the retirement plan for dictators is a bullet in the head, you're perfectly ok sending a bunch of peasants off to get shot. View Quote |
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Quoted: I don't see how they can sustain keeping those territories even if Ukraine stopped its Army. The Partisans are going to make it ungovernable. View Quote Are they having a lot of insurgent action in Mariupol? Or did they kill enough people to tamp it down? Honest question, I don't know, it's just an immediate example. |
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Quoted: Huge risks to Russia if they do. The war isn't popular in Russia, not like anti-war protests everywhere, but nobody is signing up voluntarily to join. Putin commanding a nuclear strike is dangerous on one account, because there is a real risk that his own military tells that order to fuck off. And a Palace Coup starts being real possible when his people believe he's a mad man they have to get rid of ASAP. Wind blows the wrong way and you'll have large parts of the Russian military contaminated. Tactical nukes aren't that great on armored forces spread all out. last, Russia has had a nuclear hostage for 70 years to prevent the West from invading. Using a nuke is killing their hostage. Deterrence is finished. Now you're talking NATO getting involved and regime change in Mowcow just became top priority. Even China would probably turn and start fighting Russia. View Quote China is going to "liberate" big chunks of Russia at some point. I'm thinking the parts that have food and energy. |
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Quoted: If I had to venture, my guess is Crimea is the only spot Moscow might consider it. Meaning if Ukraine recaptures Kherson, Donbass etc but not Crimea, Putin won't even roll out trucks on tv with threats. Crimea, could be the exception but then I could be wrong about even that. Russians are a paranoid people who seem to perceive threats in leaves blowing in the wind. Maybe the blame for that is the Mongol empire? View Quote I don't know if Crimea is the line, but Russian soil that was Russian soil in 2013 probably is. |
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Quoted: could we still recognize a fair election ? Ps: today I learned something that surprised me. The RT Russian public television has been banned from France and the EU. Also, all their archives on YouTube etc have been purged. The French public television, and all other foreign TVs from Europe and the USA are still running in Russia. That is not to tell that the Russian govt isn’t tyrannical and that Putin isn’t a POS. But that should tell us something about our own govt… View Quote Is this true? |
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Quoted: Always wondered what the Russians have in storage. There's o way Russia should be low on a lot of things like artillery. The Soviet's ran the arms factories for decades. But the. Why were they buying from best Korea and China? View Quote |
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View Quote Sure does look bad in context but I wonder if drunk Russians fall down a lot more than the global average? |
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Easy world-conquering, distilled:
1. (optional) Migrate ethnic population over many decades. 2. Temporarily occupy sovereign territory under the guise of ethnic oppression 3. Plan referendum, cheating or with legitimate support from migrants from step 1, win 4. Claim any [defensive] attack on the previous sovereign territory is now an attack on you, nukes allowed. Wouldn't Mexico be able to justify the same acts with our Southern border? Assuming they had nukes of course. ETA for clarity: Objectively, it's a weak argument. How many displaced people are there in eastern Ukraine? If they want to be part of Russia, move into their already vast land area directly to your east. You've already a refugee at this point. |
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Another excuse for Ukraine to hit up Xiden for more money American money.
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Quoted: in the pacific the marines are the expeditionary force on the ground. They also have a history in the region. No disrespect to the Army, but would you want a bunch of motivated devil dogs on your front lawn? This the organization that fought the fanatical Japanese to a loss on their own prepared soil. Landed at Wonsan and actually fought the PLA. They have history. Was that the last time the PLA really fought? They didn't do it in a vacuum but if you had to propagandize defeating one group of the opposition, the US Marines are a good choice at least in Asia. View Quote US ‘China’ Marines were boss too Attached File |
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Quoted: in the pacific the marines are the expeditionary force on the ground. They also have a history in the region. No disrespect to the Army, but would you want a bunch of motivated devil dogs on your front lawn? This the organization that fought the fanatical Japanese to a loss on their own prepared soil. Landed at Wonsan and actually fought the PLA. They have history. Was that the last time the PLA really fought? They didn't do it in a vacuum but if you had to propagandize defeating one group of the opposition, the US Marines are a good choice at least in Asia. View Quote https://www.army.mil/article/25028/1st_international_relief_expedition Attached File Attached File |
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Quoted: You can say the same about many ethnicities but some will get you banned. View Quote This is true, but None of them spread communism like the Russians, did, and none of them are threatening to nuke europe at this instant. Heck 90% of the problems with minorities around the world is the infestastion of communist thought and propaganda that ate away at their countries, and caused the productive populations to flee. |
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Quoted: Always wondered what the Russians have in storage. There's o way Russia should be low on a lot of things like artillery. The Soviet's ran the arms factories for decades. But the. Why were they buying from best Korea and China? View Quote Assuming off top that most of it wasn't picked clean decades ago, most of their stored materials may be locked up in emergency national reserve status that can't be utilized for anything short of a major invasion or a nuclear exchange. |
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Quoted: I couldn't remember the Army regiments that fought in China over 100 years ago. In Korea I vaguely recall a test or march? My memory is foggy these days https://www.army.mil/article/25028/1st_international_relief_expeditionhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/396671FC-3CFA-4FFF-B19E-848D09801190_jpe-2534149.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/927578A7-6591-4CD8-9F1A-E58080603498_jpe-2534150.JPG View Quote |
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Quoted: The Army in Korea? Where they there? View Quote Fuck I got Alzheimer’s- the Manchu mile https://www.epcan.com/story/2020/12/16/military/soldiers-march-the-manchu-mile-at-fort-carson/8835.html?m=true |
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Yeah, Putin is fucked. It's just a matter of how. I mean lets say he pulls off the win by some miracle of Russian suffering. What does he win?
This is the ultimate "stupid games, stupid prizes" event in modern history. |
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