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Link Posted: 12/25/2005 2:44:56 AM EDT
[#1]
Wrap up a can of beans.

College kids can be hard to take; some of them grow out of it.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 2:48:52 AM EDT
[#2]
cut the top on her jeep!


and i kind of know how you feel...  i have a rabidly anti-gun sister, and my mother isn't very fond of firearms either.  i dare you to try and have a logical discussion on the subject of firearms with them!
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 2:52:54 AM EDT
[#3]
Send her this:

The Neal Boortz Commencement Speech
No, this speech has never been delivered at a college or a university. It was written to protest the fact that such an invitation has never been offered! It has only been delivered on my radio show, printed in my book "The Terrible Truth About Liberals" and produced on a limited edition CD. The irony is that this commencement speech has been more widely distributed, and has been the subject of more comment than any commencement speech that actually has been delivered at any college or university in the past 50 years. ©Copyright 2001, 2002, 2003 by Neal Boortz.
http://www.boortz.com

I am honored by the invitation to address you on this august occasion. It's about time. Be warned, however, that I am not here to impress you; you'll have enough smoke blown your way today. And you can bet your tassels I'm not here to impress the faculty and administration.

You may not like much of what I have to say, and that's fine. You will remember it though. Especially after about 10 years out there in the real world. This, it goes without saying, does not apply to those of you who will seek your careers and your fortunes as government employees.

This gowned gaggle behind me is your faculty. You've heard the old saying that those who can - do. Those who can't - teach. That sounds deliciously insensitive. But there is often raw truth in insensitivity, just as you often find feel-good falsehoods and lies in compassion. Say good-bye to your faculty because now you are getting ready to go out there and do. These folks behind me are going to stay right here and teach.

By the way, just because you are leaving this place with a diploma doesn't mean the learning is over. When an FAA flight examiner handed me my private pilot's license many years ago, he said, 'Here, this is your ticket to learn.' The same can be said for your diploma. Believe me, the learning has just begun.

Now, I realize that most of you consider yourselves Liberals. In fact, you are probably very proud of your liberal views. You care so much. You feel so much. You want to help so much. After all, you're a compassionate and caring person, aren't you now? Well, isn't that just so extraordinarily special. Now, at this age, is as good a time as any to be a Liberal; as good a time as any to know absolutely everything. You have plenty of time, starting tomorrow, for the truth to set in. Over the next few years, as you begin to feel the cold breath of reality down your neck, things are going to start changing pretty fast .. including your own assessment of just how much you really know.

So here are the first assignments for your initial class in reality: Pay attention to the news, read newspapers, and listen to the words and phrases that proud Liberals use to promote their causes. Then compare the words of the left to the words and phrases you hear from those evil, heartless, greedy conservatives. From the Left you will hear "I feel." From the Right you will hear "I think." From the Liberals you will hear references to groups --The Blacks, The Poor, The Rich, The Disadvantaged, The Less Fortunate. From the Right you will hear references to individuals. On the Left you hear talk of group rights; on the Right, individual rights.

That about sums it up, really: Liberals feel. Liberals care. They are pack animals whose identity is tied up in group dynamics. Conservatives and Libertarians think -- and, setting aside the theocracy crowd, their identity is centered on the individual.

Liberals feel that their favored groups, have enforceable rights to the property and services of productive individuals. Conservatives (and Libertarians, myself among them I might add) think that individuals have the right to protect their lives and their property from the plunder of the masses.

In college you developed a group mentality, but if you look closely at your diplomas you will see that they have your individual names on them. Not the name of your school mascot, or of your fraternity or sorority, butyourname. Your group identity is going away. Your recognition and appreciation of your individual identity starts now.

If, by the time you reach the age of 30, you do not consider yourself to be a libertarian or a conservative, rush right back here as quickly as you can and apply for a faculty position. These people will welcome you with open arms. They will welcome you, that is, so long as you haven't developed an individual identity. Once again you will have to be willing to sign on to the group mentality you embraced during the past four years.

Something is going to happen soon that is going to really open your eyes. You're going to actually get a full time job! You're also going to get a lifelong work partner. This partner isn't going to help you do your job. This partner is just going to sit back and wait for payday. This partner doesn't want to share in your effort, just your earnings.

Your new lifelong partner is actually an agent; an agent representing a strange and diverse group of people. An agent for every teenager with an illegitimate child. An agent for a research scientist who wanted to make some cash answering the age-old question of why monkeys grind their teeth. An agent for some poor aging hippie who considers herself to be a meaningful and talented artist ... but who just can't manage to sell any of her artwork on the open market.

Your new partner is an agent for every person with limited, if any, job skills; for every person who ignored all offered educational opportunities, dreaming of nothing more than a job at City Hall. An agent for tin-horn dictators in fancy military uniforms grasping for American foreign aid. An agent for multi-million-dollar companies who want someone else to pay for their overseas advertising. An agent for everybody who wants to use the unimaginable power of this agent's for their personal enrichment and benefit.

That agent is our wonderful, caring, compassionate, oppressive Imperial Federal Government. Believe me, you will be awed by the unimaginable power this agent has. Power that you do not have. A power that no individual has, will have or should have. This agent has the legal power to use force – deadly force – to accomplish its goals.

You have no choice here. Your new friend is just going to walk up to you, introduce itself rather gruffly, hand you a few forms to fill out, and move right on in. Say hello to your own personal one ton gorilla with a gun. It will sleep anywhere it wants to.

Now, let me tell you, this agent is not cheap. As you become successful it will seize about 40% of everything you earn. And no, I'm sorry, there just isn't any way you can fire this agent of plunder, and you can't decrease it's share of your income. That power rests with him, not you.

So, here I am saying negative things to you about government. Well, be clear on this: It is not wrong to distrust government. It is not wrong to fear government. In certain cases it is not even wrong to despise government for government is inherently evil. Oh yes, I know it's a necessary evil, but it is dangerous nonetheless ... somewhat like a drug. Just as a drug that in the proper dosage can save your life, an overdose of government can be fatal.

Now – let's address a few things that have been crammed into your minds at this university. There are some ideas you need to expunge as soon as possible. These ideas may work well in academic environment, but they fail miserably out there in the real world.

First – that favorite buzz word of the media, government and academia: Diversity!

You have been taught that the real value of any group of people - be it a social group, an employee group, a management group, whatever - is based on diversity. This is a favored liberal ideal because diversity is based not on an individual's abilities or character, but on a person's identity and status as a member of a group. Yes – it's that liberal group identity thing again.

Within the great diversity movement group identification - be it racial, gender based, or some other minority status - means more than the individual's integrity, character or other qualifications.

Brace yourself. You are about to move from this academic atmosphere where diversity rules, to a workplace and a culture where individual achievement and excellence actually count. No matter what your professors have taught you over the last four years, you are about to learn that diversity is absolutely no replacement for excellence, ability, and individual hard work.

From this day on every single time you hear the word "diversity" you can rest assured that there is someone close by who is determined to rob you of every vestige of individuality you possess.

We also need to address this thing you seem to have about "rights." We have witnessed an obscene explosion of so-called "rights" in the last few decades, usually emanating from college campuses.

You know the mantra: You have the right to a job. The right to a place to live. The right to a living wage. The right to health care. The right to an education. You probably even have your own pet right - the right to a Beemer, for instance, or the right to have someone else provide for that child you plan on downloading in a year or so.

Forget it. Forget those rights! I'll tell you what your rights are! You have a right to live free, and to whatever wealth you are able to produce with your labor. I'll also tell you have no right to any portion of the life or labor of another.

You may think, for instance, that you have a right to health care. After all, Hillary said so, didn't she? But you cannot receive health care unless some doctor or health practitioner surrenders some of his time - his life - to you. He may be willing to do this for compensation, but that's his choice. You have no "right" to his time or property. You have no right to his or any other person's life or to any portion thereof.

You may also think you have some "right" to a job; a job with a living wage, whatever that is. Do you mean to tell me that you have a right to force your services on another person, and then the right to demand that this person compensate you with their money? I can't wait for you to point that one out for me in our Constitution. I sure would like to be a fly on the wall when some urban outdoorsmen (that would be "homeless person" for those of you who don't want to give these less fortunate people a romantic and adventurous title) came to you and demanded his job and your money.

The people who have been telling you about all the rights you have are simply exercising one of theirs - the right to be imbeciles. Their being imbeciles didn't cost anyone else either property or time. It's their right, and they exercise it brilliantly.

By the way, did you catch my use of the phrase "less fortunate" a bit ago when I was talking about the urban outdoorsmen? That phrase is a favorite of the Left. Think about it, and you'll understand why.

To imply that one person is homeless, destitute, dirty, drunk, spaced out on drugs, unemployable, and generally miserable because he is "less fortunate" is to imply that a successful person - one with a job, a home and a future - is in that position because he or she was "fortunate." The dictionary says that fortunate means "having derived good from an unexpected place." There is nothing unexpected about deriving good from hard work. There is also nothing unexpected about deriving misery from choosing drugs, alcohol, and the street instead of education and personal responsibility.

If the Left can create the common perception that success and failure are simple matters of "fortune" or "luck," then it is easy to promote and justify their various income redistribution schemes. After all, we are just evening out the odds a little bit, aren't we?

This "success equals luck" idea the liberals like to push is seen everywhere. Democratic presidential candidate Richard Gephardt refers to high-achievers as "people who have won life's lottery." He wants you to believe they are making the big bucks because they are lucky; all they did was buy the right lottery ticket. What an insult this is to the man or woman who works that 60 hour week to provide for a family.

It's not luck, my friends. It's choice. One of the greatest lessons I ever learned was in a book by Og Mandino, entitled "The Greatest Secret in the World." The lesson? Very simple: "Use wisely your power of choice."

That bum sitting on a heating grate, smelling like a wharf rat? He's there by choice. He is there because of the sum total of the choices he has made in his life. This truism is absolutely the hardest thing for some people to accept, especially those who consider themselves to be victims of something or other - victims of discrimination, bad luck, the system, capitalism, whatever. After all, nobody really wants to accept the blame for his or her position in life. Not when it is so much easier to point and say, "Look! He did this to me!" than it is to look into a mirror and say, "You S.O.B.! You did this to me!"

The key to accepting responsibility for your life is to accept the fact that your choices, every one of them, are leading you inexorably to either success or failure, however you define those terms.

Some of the choices are obvious: Whether or not to stay in school. Whether or not to get pregnant. Whether or not to hit the bottle. Whether or not to keep this job you hate until you get another better-paying job. Whether or not to save some of your money, or saddle yourself with huge payments for that new car.

Some of the choices are seemingly insignificant: Whom to go to the movies with. Whose car to ride home in. Whether to watch the tube tonight, or read a book on investing. But, and you can be sure of this, each choice counts. Each choice is a building block - some large, some small. But each one is a part of the structure of your life. If you make the right choices, or if you make more right choices than wrong ones, something absolutely terrible may happen to you. Something unthinkable. You, my friend, could become one of the hated, the evil, the ugly, the feared, the filthy, the successful, the rich.

Quite a few people have followed that tragic path.

The rich basically serve two purposes in this country. First, they provide the investments, the investment capital, and the brains for the formation of new businesses. Businesses that hire people. Businesses that send millions of paychecks home each week to the un-rich.

Second, the rich are a wonderful object of ridicule, distrust, and hatred. Few things are more valuable to a politician than the envy most Americans feel for the evil rich.

Envy is a powerful emotion. Even more powerful than the emotional minefield that surrounded Bill Clinton when he reviewed his last batch of White House interns. Politicians use envy to get votes and power. And they keep that power by promising the envious that the envied will be punished: "The rich will pay their fair share of taxes if I have anything to do with it.'

The truth is that the top 10% of income earners in this country pays almost 50% of all income taxes collected. I shudder to think what these job producers would be paying if our tax system were any more "fair."

You have heard, no doubt, that in America the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Interestingly enough, our government's own numbers show that many of the poor actually get richer, and that quite a few of the rich actually get poorer. But for the rich who do actually get richer, and the poor who remain poor ... there's an explanation -- a reason. The rich, you see, keep doing the things that make them rich; while the poor keep doing the things that make them poor.

Speaking of the poor, during your adult life you are going to hear an endless string of politicians bemoaning the plight of the poor in America. So, you need to know that under our government's definition of "poor" you can have a $5 million net worth, a $300,000 home and a new $90,000 Mercedes, all completely paid for. You can also have a maid, cook, and valet, and $1 million in your checking account, and you can still be officially defined by our government as "living in poverty." Now there's something you haven't seen on the evening news.

How does the government pull this one off? Very simple, really. To determine whether or not some poor soul is "living in poverty," the government measures one thing -- just one thing. Income. It doesn't matter one bit how much you have, how much you own, how many cars you drive or how big they are, whether or not your pool is heated, whether you winter in Aspen and spend the summers in the Bahamas, or how much is in your savings account. It only matters how much income you claim in that particular year. This means that if you take a one-year leave of absence from your high-paying job and decide to live off the money in your savings and checking accounts while you write the next great American novel, the government says you are 'living in poverty."

This isn't exactly what you had in mind when you heard these gloomy statistics, is it?

Do you need more convincing? Try this. The government's own statistics show that people who are said to be "living in poverty" spend more than $1.50 for each dollar of income they claim. Something is a bit fishy here. just remember all this the next time Peter Jennings puffs up and tells you about some hideous new poverty statistics.

And please remember this: The average person in this country described as "poor" has a higher standard of living than the average European. Not the average "poor" European, the average European.

Why has the government concocted this phony poverty scam? Because the government needs an excuse to grow and to expand its social welfare programs, which translates into an expansion of its power. If the government can convince you, in all your compassion,that the number of "poor" is increasing, it will have all the excuse it needs to sway an electorate suffering from the advanced stages of Obsessive-Compulsive Compassion Disorder.

Well, it looks like I'm about to be given the hook. The faculty looks a little angry. I'll bet they've already changed their minds about that honorary degree I was going to get.That's OK, though. I still have my Ph.D. in Insensitivity from the Neal Boortz Institute for Insensitivity Training. I learned that, in short, sensitivity sucks. It's a trap. Think about it - the truth knows no sensitivity. Life can be insensitive. Wallow too much in sensitivity and you'll be unable to deal with life, or the truth. So, get over it.

Now, before the dean has me shackled and hauled off, I have a few random thoughts.

# You need to register to vote, unless you are on welfare. If you are living off the efforts of others, please do us the favor of sitting down and shutting up until you are on your own again. To the welfare class I say that we're taking care of you we would appreciate if if you would just stay out of our way so we can get the job done.

# When you do vote, your votes for the House and the Senate are more important than your vote for president. The House controls the purse strings, so concentrate your awareness there.

# Liars cannot be trusted, even when the liar is the president of the United States. If someone can't deal honestly with you, send them packing.

# Don't bow to the temptation to use the government as an instrument of plunder. If it is wrong for you to take money from someone else who earned it -- to take their money by force for your own needs -- then it is certainly just as wrong for you to demand that the government step forward and do this dirty work for you.

# Don't look in other people's pockets. You have no business there. What they earn is theirs. What your earn is yours. Keep it that way. Nobody owes you anything, except to respect your privacy and your rights, and leave you the hell alone.

# Speaking of earning, the revered 40-hour workweek is for losers. Forty hours should be considered the minimum, not the maximum. You don't see highly successful people clocking out of the office every afternoon at five. The losers are the ones caught up in that afternoon rush hour. The winners drive home in the dark.

# Free speech is meant to protect unpopular speech. Popular speech, by definition, needs no protection.

# Finally (and aren't you glad to hear that word), as Og Mandino wrote,

1. Proclaim your rarity. Each of you is a rare and unique human being.

2. Use wisely your power of choice.

3. Go the extra mile ... drive home in the dark.

Oh, and put off buying a television set as long as you can.

Now, if you have any idea at all what's good for you, you will get the hell out of here and never come back.

Class dismissed.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 3:03:21 AM EDT
[#4]
Shoulda dented a can of veggies on her head, then told her to STFU.... I don't have much to do with my family for similar reasons - try not to let it bother you too much, bud...



 - georgestrings
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 3:03:52 AM EDT
[#5]
Don't get too down.  My step-mother-in-law did the same thing a Christmas oops. meant Thanksgiving.  Went crazy on my wife over a trivial matter.  My wife was crying.  She went out to the car to sit there iuntil we left.  Ended up telling my MIL to fuck off.  Not something I would normally do, but when I tried to talk to her and asked her to talk to my wife and straighten things out she went nuts, claiming my wife never treated her right, etc...  She is not my wife's mother, but my wife treats her better, and visits and calls her more often than her real children.

Ought to make for an interesting Christmas.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 3:10:43 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
A young woman was about to finish her first year of college. Like so many others her age, she considered herself to be a very liberal Democrat, and was very much in favor of the redistribution of wealth. She was deeply ashamed that her father was a rather staunch Republican, a feeling she openly expressed. Based on the lectures that she had participated in, and the occasional chat with a professor, she felt that her father had for years harbored an evil, selfish desire to keep what he thought should be his.
One day she was challenging her father on his opposition to higher taxes on the rich and the addition of more government welfare programs. The self-professed objectivity proclaimed by her professors had to be the truth and she indicated so to her father. He responded by asking how she was doing in school. Taken aback, she answered rather haughtily that she had a 4.0 GPA, and let him know that it was tough to maintain, insisting that she was taking a very difficult course load and was constantly studying, which left her no time to go out and party like other people she knew. She didn't even have time for a boyfriend, and didn't really have many college friends because she spent all her time studying.

Her father listened and then asked, “How is you friend Audrey doing?” She replied, “Audrey is barely getting by. All she takes are easy classes, she never studies, and she barely has a 2.0 GPA. She is so popular on campus; college for her is a blast. She's always invited to all the parties, and lots of times she doesn't even show up for classes because she's too hung over.”

Her wise father asked his daughter, “Why don't you go to the Dean's office and ask him to deduct a 1.0 off your GPA and give it to your friend who only has a 2.0. That way you will both have a 3.0 GPA and certainly that would be a fair and equal distribution of GPA.”

The daughter, visibly shocked by her father's suggestion, angrily fired back, “That wouldn't be fair! I have worked really hard for my grades! I've invested a lot of time, and a lot of hard work! Audrey has done next to nothing toward her degree. She played while I worked my tail off!”

The father slowly smiled, winked and said gently, “Welcome to the Republican Party.”



Now THAT is a great story!
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 3:17:39 AM EDT
[#7]
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 3:24:01 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Buy her a bus ticket to Nogales, Sonora.



Make it nuevo laredo instead.

Let her experience the full charms of Mexico and then come back next christmas to tell everyone how great it is.




I can add a huge personal +1 to that one!

If I were your dad, I'd have said, "Obviously what I'm paying for your college is being wasted. I'll not pay another dime. Here's your one-way ticket to Nuevo Laredo. Now get out of my house right now."

Man, I really hate liberals!
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 3:31:38 AM EDT
[#9]
My 2 centavos.................Dont buy her anything...........not even a can of beans for the food bank. Tel her since she does not appreciate the thoughtfulness and effort that went into selecting gifts for her, your family just decided to let her watch everyone else enjoy theirs.........and you have invited some of the food bank patrons to come over to her house for a late Christmas dinner, on her tab.......  
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 3:42:12 AM EDT
[#10]
And people wonder why I carry such a hatred for liberals.

That sucks.  I hope your family can recover for next year.  
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 4:27:52 AM EDT
[#11]
Buy her a cardboard box to live in, and have Daddy cut off her college money.  
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 4:36:09 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
Buy her a cardboard box to live in, and have Daddy cut off her college money.  



Yeah!  ...and if she cares sooooooo much about the "poor and the downtrodden" tell her to get her bitch ass into the soup kitchen where she belongs!!!!


Dace, do me a favor for Christmas.  Give your dad a big pat on the back and +1 from me.

then tell your sister if she loves Mexico and Irag so damn much I'll gladly pay her way ( one way ) to either of those shitholes.....
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 4:41:40 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
My dad flipped out since he is a vet.

Basically he said that she is a liberal because of college and he cant wait for her to get out because she will change then.  How everyone is getting tired of her bleeding heart liberal attitude and trying to make everyone feel guilty about their position in life.  

And then he left.

Everyone was mad, everyone left, and now I am venting at home.

Merry f'ing christmas.



Dude, sorry your holiday was ruined, but I give a LOT of props to your old man. Everything he said needed to be said. You don't go around f'ing up everone else's holiday, hust because you it isn't being run the way you think it should be.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 5:10:19 AM EDT
[#14]
My brother, his wife, and daughter in college are big time liberals. We came to an understanding when asshat Bill was pres that politics would no longer be discussed at family get togethers.  I  used to get them so pissed they would all leave and meant to do it. I like my brother, really feel sorry for him though. He fits the stereotype that if you are male and liberal you have to be a pussy. They just beat it out of him over the years.


rk
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 5:11:03 AM EDT
[#15]
No offense to your familiy, but, Drop the bitch into Tijuana with her sack of canned goods and let her see how Merry Christmas Really is?
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 11:15:03 AM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
Part of the Liberal Christian mindset is that they have to preach their message 24/7.
In their minds, they are trying to "wake people up" and "do good".
In reality, I believe that their constant blather serves to reinforce their own beliefs.
They WANT the negative reactions they recieve, because it make them feel like a mayrtyr for the cause.
Liberalism Christianity celebrates victimhood, and mayrtyrs are the ultimate, righteous, victims.
Now she can tell her friends how she was "attacked and disowned" because of her Liberal Christian convictions, thus earning status in their eyes.




Liberals aren't the only ones who do this.  It all has to do with the belief in their own superiority and the obsession to control other people's lives.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 11:22:09 AM EDT
[#17]
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 11:34:04 AM EDT
[#18]
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 3:21:48 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Part of the Liberal Christian mindset is that they have to preach their message 24/7.
In their minds, they are trying to "wake people up" and "do good".
In reality, I believe that their constant blather serves to reinforce their own beliefs.
They WANT the negative reactions they recieve, because it make them feel like a mayrtyr for the cause.
Liberalism Christianity celebrates victimhood, and mayrtyrs are the ultimate, righteous, victims.
Now she can tell her friends how she was "attacked and disowned" because of her Liberal Christian convictions, thus earning status in their eyes.




Liberals aren't the only ones who do this.  It all has to do with the belief in their own superiority and the obsession to control other people's lives.



A

Well, a good portion of Christians are still pro gun.....and anti welfare.....so take yer pick.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 3:46:30 PM EDT
[#20]
I think next year you should all be cordial.  And when it comes to gift time, no need for dented cans...  Simply give her a card that says, "A donation has been made to the *** (insert food bank, etc here) in your name"

If you actually make the donation or not, well, that's up to you.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 3:47:30 PM EDT
[#21]
Seems like the young cnut lady wasn't brought up with any manners.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 4:00:47 PM EDT
[#22]
Who was the first to declare, "You ruined Christmas!"?
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 4:24:28 PM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
they need tractor speed bumps in Israel



You owe me a new keyboard...spewed tea all over this one--

Nah, nevahmind, it was worth the laugh :)

Gwen "Buy the b*tch a ticket to Nuevo Loredo" in L.A.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 4:30:30 PM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:
Your dad shouldn't have left, she should have been kicked out.



+1.

Even if she's still in college, there's a limit, especially when company's over.

If she's out of college, but still looking for a job (where she can help people, no doubt") it's suddenly time for her to find her own place... and we're not talking some zen meditation shit here. We're talking "let the homeless sleep in your house, cause you're outta here".

Buh-bye.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 4:31:46 PM EDT
[#25]
Next Christmas, tell her you made a big donation to a human rights organization in her name for her.  Then show her the NRA card that comes with that donation.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 4:43:48 PM EDT
[#26]
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 4:46:39 PM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Part of the Liberal Christian mindset is that they have to preach their message 24/7.
In their minds, they are trying to "wake people up" and "do good".
In reality, I believe that their constant blather serves to reinforce their own beliefs.
They WANT the negative reactions they recieve, because it make them feel like a mayrtyr for the cause.
Liberalism Christianity celebrates victimhood, and mayrtyrs are the ultimate, righteous, victims.
Now she can tell her friends how she was "attacked and disowned" because of her Liberal Christian convictions, thus earning status in their eyes.




Liberals aren't the only ones who do this.  It all has to do with the belief in their own superiority and the obsession to control other people's lives.



Horse manure...

This condescending overbearing self-important rude behavior is the norm among liberals it is not the norm but the exception for Christians.

Liberals almost always believe they are smarter that everybody else… just ask them. And they treat anyone who has a differing opinion from theirs in a condescending manner. And most Christians even the most obnoxious have some level of manners… manners are a concept alien to most liberals.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 4:46:58 PM EDT
[#28]
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 4:58:52 PM EDT
[#29]
I'll donate $20 to buy her a ticket to Mexico.....see how she likes it down there.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 5:26:07 PM EDT
[#30]
My torture has only begun. Hent to the sisters today, got through that without incident, but tomorrow morning we head out to illinois to see the inlaws. Motherinlaw and her husband aren't too bad, but the step-mother-in-law and her four daughters are going to be an adventure in pain.  ( does anyone remember that skanky thing that always had a crush on popeye, not olive oil but that other thing.? Well it's my sister-in-law. I'm not kidding) 7 or 8 kids, all out of wedlock. Not one of them has any dicipline or respect.  My only saving grace is that they are afraid of me so they keep their distance. God this is going to be excruciating.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 5:31:51 PM EDT
[#31]
Wouldn't the money that she is spending on college be better spent on mexico?

she better quit school, -- unless she is a hypocrit.

ktm500
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 5:44:48 PM EDT
[#32]
Well, as the ONLY conservative family on the wifes side Christmas can be a unique experience. But after 10 years of them seeing I treat my wife [their daughter] 100x better then their liberal son treats his wife. [AnnArborites] they respect me pretty well. Even got into a WW2 gun discussion at the Christmas Eve party with more then a few being invited to shoot some WW2 stuff this summer. I have a feeling a few will take me up on it.  

And if Daddy is paying the bills for College, she's learning nothing about life and actually being responsible for herself. She IS the poor mexican in her story.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 6:08:40 PM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:
I think next year you should all be cordial.  And when it comes to gift time, no need for dented cans...  Simply give her a card that says, "A donation has been made to the *** (insert food bank, etc here) in your name"

If you actually make the donation or not, well, that's up to you.



Make it a donation to the NRA.   lol

ktm500
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 6:17:49 PM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:

Horse manure...

This condescending overbearing self-important rude behavior is the norm among liberals it is not the norm but the exception for Christians.

Liberals almost always believe they are smarter that everybody else… just ask them. And they treat anyone who has a differing opinion from theirs in a condescending manner. And most Christians even the most obnoxious have some level of manners… manners are a concept alien to most liberals.



+1.

Liberals seem to consider it a duty to make sure everyone around them is just as miserable as they are.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 6:22:29 PM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:
Liberalism is a mental disease.



haha...thats a good line...im gonna use that next time my liberal cousins start bashing me and my family's "republican" way of life

Link Posted: 12/25/2005 6:25:38 PM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:
Wrap up a can of beans.

College kids can be hard to take; some of them grow out of it.




Hey! Don't lump us all into one category. I'm a college student and I voted for BUSH, drive a mercedes, AND own guns !
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 10:13:16 PM EDT
[#37]

A young woman was about to finish her first year of college. Like so many others her age, she considered herself to be a very liberal Democrat, and was very much in favor of the redistribution of wealth. She was deeply ashamed that her father was a rather staunch Republican, a feeling she openly expressed. Based on the lectures that she had participated in, and the occasional chat with a professor, she felt that her father had for years harbored an evil, selfish desire to keep what he thought should be his.
One day she was challenging her father on his opposition to higher taxes on the rich and the addition of more government welfare programs. The self-professed objectivity proclaimed by her professors had to be the truth and she indicated so to her father. He responded by asking how she was doing in school. Taken aback, she answered rather haughtily that she had a 4.0 GPA, and let him know that it was tough to maintain, insisting that she was taking a very difficult course load and was constantly studying, which left her no time to go out and party like other people she knew. She didn't even have time for a boyfriend, and didn't really have many college friends because she spent all her time studying.

Her father listened and then asked, “How is you friend Audrey doing?” She replied, “Audrey is barely getting by. All she takes are easy classes, she never studies, and she barely has a 2.0 GPA. She is so popular on campus; college for her is a blast. She's always invited to all the parties, and lots of times she doesn't even show up for classes because she's too hung over.”

Her wise father asked his daughter, “Why don't you go to the Dean's office and ask him to deduct a 1.0 off your GPA and give it to your friend who only has a 2.0. That way you will both have a 3.0 GPA and certainly that would be a fair and equal distribution of GPA.”

The daughter, visibly shocked by her father's suggestion, angrily fired back, “That wouldn't be fair! I have worked really hard for my grades! I've invested a lot of time, and a lot of hard work! Audrey has done next to nothing toward her degree. She played while I worked my tail off!”

The father slowly smiled, winked and said gently, “Welcome to the Republican Party.”



Game, set, and match.

That is a knock-them-off-their-foundations response. I like it!
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 10:38:27 PM EDT
[#38]
Sounds kind of like you trolling the survival forum, Dace.

I do feel bad that your Christmas was ruined though. Tell your Dad we are on his side.
Went thru something similar at a holiday gathering about 12 years ago. It was just in the last year that the entire family got together again.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 10:41:42 PM EDT
[#39]
at least you know what to give to her next christmas

Link Posted: 12/25/2005 10:59:57 PM EDT
[#40]
1. You shoulda ripped her britches down to her knees and cornholed her in fron of all her family....guaranteed to shut her the fuck up and make her leave!!

2. Failing that...tell her to 'git'! If she isn't immediately high steppin it out of your house, see step one.

3. If she 'falls in love' due to step 1 or 2.......just kill your self.....it's easier than arguing with a twit!


BEWBIES  
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 11:13:40 PM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:
So, dont invite her over for Christmas anymore.






We went over to the 'lib' relatives place for late lunch.  Any how, no politics were brought up (thankfully).  I noticed one of the gifts that they got for each other (?) was some book talking about how PEACE should be taught.  I read the back quick (and from what I could recall), it said something that fear or war was the normal 'natural' reaction.  I prob got the premis wrong, but my question was, who do we teach peace to?  US or them (radical Muslims)?

The irony is, their kid got an X box and was playing a Star Wars game (violence....shoot, kill....)......





Quoted:

A young woman was about to finish her first year of college. Like so many others her age, she considered herself to be a very liberal Democrat, and was very much in favor of the redistribution of wealth. She was deeply ashamed that her father was a rather staunch Republican, a feeling she openly expressed. Based on the lectures that she had participated in, and the occasional chat with a professor, she felt that her father had for years harbored an evil, selfish desire to keep what he thought should be his.
One day she was challenging her father on his opposition to higher taxes on the rich and the addition of more government welfare programs. The self-professed objectivity proclaimed by her professors had to be the truth and she indicated so to her father. He responded by asking how she was doing in school. Taken aback, she answered rather haughtily that she had a 4.0 GPA, and let him know that it was tough to maintain, insisting that she was taking a very difficult course load and was constantly studying, which left her no time to go out and party like other people she knew. She didn't even have time for a boyfriend, and didn't really have many college friends because she spent all her time studying.

Her father listened and then asked, “How is you friend Audrey doing?” She replied, “Audrey is barely getting by. All she takes are easy classes, she never studies, and she barely has a 2.0 GPA. She is so popular on campus; college for her is a blast. She's always invited to all the parties, and lots of times she doesn't even show up for classes because she's too hung over.”

Her wise father asked his daughter, “Why don't you go to the Dean's office and ask him to deduct a 1.0 off your GPA and give it to your friend who only has a 2.0. That way you will both have a 3.0 GPA and certainly that would be a fair and equal distribution of GPA.”

The daughter, visibly shocked by her father's suggestion, angrily fired back, “That wouldn't be fair! I have worked really hard for my grades! I've invested a lot of time, and a lot of hard work! Audrey has done next to nothing toward her degree. She played while I worked my tail off!”

The father slowly smiled, winked and said gently, “Welcome to the Republican Party.”



Game, set, and match.

That is a knock-them-off-their-foundations response. I like it!




Now THAT I will have to save!
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 8:23:24 AM EDT
[#42]
Donate to the "Human Fund" in her name.  Spend the cash on WWB.
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 8:30:55 AM EDT
[#43]

Quoted:
My torture has only begun. Hent to the sisters today, got through that without incident, but tomorrow morning we head out to illinois to see the inlaws. Motherinlaw and her husband aren't too bad, but the step-mother-in-law and her four daughters are going to be an adventure in pain.  ( does anyone remember that skanky thing that always had a crush on popeye, not olive oil but that other thing.? Well it's my sister-in-law. I'm not kidding) 7 or 8 kids, all out of wedlock. Not one of them has any dicipline or respect.  My only saving grace is that they are afraid of me so they keep their distance. God this is going to be excruciating.



If you need a voice of conservative reason, and are in the Northern suburbs, gimme a call. We'll go hit a local fun store.
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 8:32:01 AM EDT
[#44]

Quoted:
So, dont invite her over for Christmas anymore.



Sounds like a plan to me
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 8:42:44 AM EDT
[#45]
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 8:44:58 AM EDT
[#46]

Quoted:
Liberalism is a mental disease.



+1
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 8:50:58 AM EDT
[#47]
Is she hot?
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 8:52:59 AM EDT
[#48]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The one time my family gets together during the year and it is ruined because of my "oh poor mexicans give all my money away open the borders cops are racist I want to live in Mexico" bleeding heart liberal sister.

Merry f'ing christmas.



Buy her a ticket for next Christmas (or birthday whatever comes first)



Yeah, then she can see what a Utopia you get when you ban all guns and reduce your people to peons...
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 9:00:39 AM EDT
[#49]
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 9:08:37 AM EDT
[#50]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Basically he said that she is a liberal because of college and he cant wait for her to get out because she will change then.  How everyone is getting tired of her bleeding heart liberal attitude and trying to make everyone feel guilty about their position in life.  

Merry f'ing christmas.



No, she won't. College is where they finish the indoctrination process, and is then brought into the workplace because nobody wants to be the one who stands out in the workplace and shits on what they were told in college.

Dave



Yeah he has a point...  Where I work they have "diversity programs" in place and "training" so that all employees toe the political line.  They also ban guns on the property in case a disgruntled employee showed up.  That policy and their unarmed security would surely make him go home and call Ted Kennedy before doing anything "rash".

Anyway I digress.  They make us all donate to charity and expect us to volunteer for "worthy causes", etc.  One time they were handing out tickets to an NAACP event that they had donated HEAVILY to in order to get the tickets.

All the while they ship out work to India, China, and Brazil so those poor underpriviliged souls can run our good name for quality into the gutter.

I can't wait until they send the big shots' jobs over there and they are standing there with a pink slip...
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