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Link Posted: 2/7/2006 2:32:34 AM EDT
[#1]

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HAHA yea...Yea Texas deer dont come close to Ne or KS deer, I was born in Wichita, KS and lived in NE for 6 years.  I will say this, those corn feed animals sure do get big.

My problem is, NE doesnt have hogs...yet.  I went to Texas for the hogs and I cant get enough, esp with a big bore AR.  Must try this 416 on one.



Now THATS something I really want to try, hog hunting. Your right, we aint got those in Nebraska. Jesus, whats it take to drop a hog? I would think a .416 is just a bit much.......A whole damned lot in fact......
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 3:20:55 AM EDT
[#2]

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I'm not saying Kali doesnt buy guns, not by any stretch.
I'm simply saying I would be suprised if gun sales in Kali were higher then any other area in the country. Trust me, Kali isnt the only place with good hunting.
So I wont argue that Kali buys its fair share of guns. But I doubt its any higher then any other place in the country, and I'm pretty damnedf skeptical kali would account for 50% of sales for any 1 manufacturer.

Back in the 80s, Kali did account for ~50% of all gun purchases in the US, then the antis got elected.

Kharn
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 3:22:34 AM EDT
[#3]

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Can't ban something you don't understand, liberals.



No, but they can keep banning things until they get it right.

Just wait till they ban based on muzzle energy, effectively killing anything in the range of a .50

hr


Shhhh, don't give them any effective ideas.  I don't think that anyone here (Kalifornia) who wants to ban guns would be able to come up with that on their own.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 3:31:31 AM EDT
[#4]
I found this old numbers for firearm sales.  They came sometime in the 1990s.


Since 1989, manufacturers and importers introduced an average of 3.5 million new guns into the U.S. market each year. By contrast, the U.S. resident population has grown an average of 2.7 million a year.


350,000 of 3.5 million is 10% not 50%.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 3:37:49 AM EDT
[#5]
Serbu has a new Kali legal .510 DTC BFG-50 as well. So the dumbass politicos over there are getting double bitch slapped. Need a photchop of Feinswine with a Barret & BFG on each side of her head.

www.serbu.com/bfg50.htm
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 3:38:51 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/7/2006 3:55:04 AM EDT
[#7]

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Quoted:
$3,718.21



And no telling how much per round. Don't forget he sells M33 ball for $320 per 80 rd case of the "Barrett" headstamped ammo. You get the rifle, be prepared to spend major $$$ on ammo you can only get from them. You should be able to find .50 on the 'net for around $1.30 ish per round.
The single shot rifle only costs about $800-850 to produce. Don't think you aren't taking it in the ass when you get this rifle.
I saw the ammo before I left. It is a CNC turned 400g solid copper. Completely rformed .50 BMG brass. You are going to spend some bucks for it.
Most other manufacturers are standardizing on the .50 DTC. One simple resizing operation and standard bullets. Much easier on the wallet. You would think if the Barretts wanted to really be the Friends of Cali, they would go this route.

Something to think about.




Exactly.

We've hashed over this in the 50BMG forum.    Most of us who are into the 50BMG don't have much interest in a round that has even worse barrel/throat wear characteristics as it is already.

If anything, the 50BMG could stand to be necked UP like the 14.5 JDJ that SSK Industries chambers for.    I'd rather fire 1130 grains at 2500-2700fps than fire 400grains at 3500-4k fps.


Only reason I would be tempted to buy the M95 as offered, get my hands on it and send it to a reputable smith to take off the 400 +P+P+P+P+P+P+ Ultra Commie Magnum Butt Stomper barrel and have a 50cal. barrel installed that is reamed for 510DTC.    Trouble would almost be worth the hassle of losing Barrett factory support by being able to get a Barrett 50 post Ca ban.


I have two theories as to why Barrett didn't go with 50DTC.    He would rather have a more unique round to turn around and "sell" through marketing hype.    And the other reason, it would be sound reasoning to not chamber for 2 different 50s so as to reduce the possibility that a gun that was supposed to be a 50BMG got reamed for 510DTC(would be bad juju if it were a contract gun) but even then that's retarded considering the test firing that would aleviate that problem.


Make a M99 or M95 in 50DTC and I will buy it.    Otherwise, ain't interested.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 4:12:43 AM EDT
[#8]
Good job, Ronnie Barrett.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 4:17:03 AM EDT
[#9]
He does gun owners proud.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 4:18:43 AM EDT
[#10]

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he is also smart that he realizes that CA is a HUGE market in the gun world.  if you cut out CA i bet you lose 50% of your sales.



In 2002 (the last year for which we have complete records), there were 352,000 guns sold in CA. In the entire US that same year, 7,806,000 firearms background checks were done for the sale of firearms. That means CA accounted for only 4.5% of US gun sales in 2002 (not counting FTF sales that require no background check).
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 4:30:00 AM EDT
[#11]
tag
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 4:31:54 AM EDT
[#12]
I wish I could.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 4:35:47 AM EDT
[#13]
Sweet!
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 4:36:06 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/7/2006 4:56:11 AM EDT
[#15]

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$3,718.21


Dude, it costs money to design a new rifle and cartridge. It also costs money to make the tooling to make the new rifle.

Good on ya, Mr. Barrett. I just love that advertisement.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 5:38:23 AM EDT
[#16]

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I hope he remembers not to sell it to the state...



The ad says "Now available for purchase by all law-abiding US citizens and their state and local law enforcement agencies."  So I would say he's abandoned his earlier position, and is now servicing the state of CA.  I had been considering the purchase of an M99, but now maybe not.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 5:40:10 AM EDT
[#17]
Long Distance...

...the next best thing to being there
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 5:40:16 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/7/2006 5:43:26 AM EDT
[#19]
Jeez, I was planning on buying a .50 from Barrett, but with velocities like that, I think I might have to rethink which large caliber I'm going to go with...lol, although finding ammo might be a bit on the hard side.

Still, that's seriously cool.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 6:01:56 AM EDT
[#20]

well if they do ban it then he will just have to neck down the 50bmg to 22cal


I beleive they already make a .223 saboted 50bmg round!
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 6:13:34 AM EDT
[#21]

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well if they do ban it then he will just have to neck down the 50bmg to 22cal


I beleive they already make a .223 saboted 50bmg round!



Wouldn't it basically self-destruct as soon as it left the barrel?  Unless it has something like a 1-in-50 twist?
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 6:17:41 AM EDT
[#22]

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Wonder what the barrel life is on it......

Speaking of, whats the barrel life of a .50??



Depends on if you're asking Skip Talbot, or some Army PFC...Klaus at State Arms had a cartridge called the .375 Mach V, was .50 necked down, barrel life was about 100 rounds.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 6:19:10 AM EDT
[#23]
Barrett for NRA VP
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 6:19:17 AM EDT
[#24]

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he is also smart that he realizes that CA is a HUGE market in the gun world.  if you cut out CA i bet you lose 50% of your sales.




huh?
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 6:21:23 AM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:

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well if they do ban it then he will just have to neck down the 50bmg to 22cal


I beleive they already make a .223 saboted 50bmg round!



Wouldn't it basically self-destruct as soon as it left the barrel?  Unless it has something like a 1-in-50 twist?



Machined copper solids don't tend to behave that way even at spank the monkey Space Ball 1 "they've gone plaid" velocities.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 6:23:04 AM EDT
[#26]
I would support him if i had $5000 to spend on one of his .50s!
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 6:25:13 AM EDT
[#27]
Oh man, I love it! Good for him.

Another fine win for us to add against the grabber's long list losses.

Depending on the price, I'm gonna have to buy one just for the sake of it alone.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 7:38:30 AM EDT
[#28]

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HAHA yea...Yea Texas deer dont come close to Ne or KS deer, I was born in Wichita, KS and lived in NE for 6 years.  I will say this, those corn feed animals sure do get big.

My problem is, NE doesnt have hogs...yet.  I went to Texas for the hogs and I cant get enough, esp with a big bore AR.  Must try this 416 on one.



Now THATS something I really want to try, hog hunting. Your right, we aint got those in Nebraska. Jesus, whats it take to drop a hog? I would think a .416 is just a bit much.......A whole damned lot in fact......




well that there 416 would do it no issue, I use a 458 socom as my dedicated hog gun, but most people use their deer rifles, I just like something with more "punch"
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 7:42:59 AM EDT
[#29]
+1,000 on I wish I had the money to support him, would love to have a .50 semi auto.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 8:18:58 AM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:
Barrett for NRA VP



Yeah NO SHIT! I LOVE the guys who throw away all the PC crap and tell it like it is Barrett and Nugent are two that come to mind.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 9:30:13 AM EDT
[#31]
Fuggin Awesome! Wish I could afford one, Barrett ROCKS. I wish ALL gun companies had owners that were like him
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 9:32:47 AM EDT
[#32]
That ad is funny... no doubt Kali will wave their magic ban-wand over this one in a year or three.
I hear criminals are already running around on the streets of Kali with these, shooting down helicopters and trying to hit the White House from across the country.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 9:47:27 AM EDT
[#33]

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That reminds me, I'm a NRA life member and I haven't seen an American Rifleman in months. Time to make a phone call.



You can manage your NRA membership online.

Right here
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 9:49:00 AM EDT
[#34]
God bless Ronnie Barrett.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 9:53:19 AM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:
$3,718.21



I'd love a Barrett rifle but that is too much right now.......way too much
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 10:06:08 AM EDT
[#36]


<-----------Post .577 for all you REAL BIG bore fans.







Quoted:

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That reminds me, I'm a NRA life member and I haven't seen an American Rifleman in months. Time to make a phone call.



You can manage your NRA membership online.

Right here



Damn, how cool is that!

The address was wrong, I forgot to update it when the box numbers got changed on our route.

Thanks kissfan.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 10:58:36 AM EDT
[#37]
.416 girly man california special
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 11:11:31 AM EDT
[#38]

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That guy really is the best thing to happen to gun owners this century.

Lets not forget his daughter
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 11:15:07 AM EDT
[#39]
.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 11:28:10 AM EDT
[#40]
unfortunately i don't see what's preventing them from just banning the rifle by name.  and the next copy, and the next copy.....
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 11:48:27 AM EDT
[#41]

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If someone wants to know the answer to the Calif sales question. Why doesnt someone just ask Ronnie this weekend??




HA, good point, Im leaving for shot tomorrow, I will ask him about how much of his sales percentage comes from Ca.  I also want a 416 for hog hunting...so I can ask a legit question before I ask him the Ca one.  I will post back here thurs or friday on what I get per a reply from him.

My money would be on not much in the big picture , but he understands that some times you just have to eat the cost and stand up and say FU.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 12:01:19 PM EDT
[#42]
Good for him! If I was rich I'd buy a number of his products in a heartbeat.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 12:02:37 PM EDT
[#43]
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 12:04:49 PM EDT
[#44]
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 12:09:12 PM EDT
[#45]
Am I the only person who thinks it's bullshit that he(the way I read the ad) is selling them to state/local agencies in CA?  It should be to people only, not agencies, as he said last year when the ban was enacted.  Hopefully I'm just reading that ad wrong.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 12:12:22 PM EDT
[#46]

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he is also smart that he realizes that CA is a HUGE market in the gun world.  if you cut out CA i bet you lose 50% of your sales.




Dude I need to see statistics or Im going to have to say " lay off the crack"



+1. I would say they are disproportinately smaller, since many guns are not even legal there.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 12:22:13 PM EDT
[#47]

You mean I have to get one of those now?


Good job Ronnie!

We need more people like you!
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 12:35:21 PM EDT
[#48]
Just when you think you can't love a man any more... he does something like stick his foot up some CA elitist political ass.


Awesome...


- BG
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 1:42:20 PM EDT
[#49]
I smell a "by name" ban on Barrett Firearms, kinda like Norinco.

That would be the only way to stop Barrett from constantly
getting around their (unjust) bans.

Wouldn't surprise me if they did.

B_S
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 1:53:19 PM EDT
[#50]

Quoted:
I smell a "by name" ban on Barrett Firearms, kinda like Norinco.

That would be the only way to stop Barrett from constantly
getting around their (unjust) bans.

Wouldn't surprise me if they did.

B_S



I hope that is what happens. Barrett strikes me as the kind of person to fight that action legally. I dont think the supreme court would uphold CA banning products by name because they dont like them. They would have no case to stand on since there is grounds to ban Barrett by name.
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