User Panel
Is the emitter under the prism/glass? Could be a great sight if so. And is rugged. And doesn’t cost an arm and a dick.
And can be used on non cutout, non-Glocks. |
|
|
All it takes is on company to innovate and others will follow. Adapt or die and this opens the market up for new potential. I am sure Vortex, Trijicon, Leupold, etc etc will see this as the salvo across the bow. Love the idea but it needs refinement which for a first of its kind is a step forward.
|
|
I don’t know if it’s been pointed out but this sight has a front and rear glass with the emitter in between. So water won’t get to the emitter.
Also no windage or elevation adjustments. It was originally designed for shotguns and called the Docter quick sight. |
|
Quoted:
I don't know if it's been pointed out but this sight has a front and rear glass with the emitter in between. So water won't get to the emitter. Also no windage or elevation adjustments. It was originally designed for shotguns and called the Docter quick sight. View Quote |
|
|
|
|
Gets the dot down to where you’ve trained to look for the front sight,
Dig it. |
|
That window is so small that I bet people actually line up the irons and think the dot is right.
|
|
Quoted:
Kinda neat, I suppose it would make it a little easier to conceal or use in a holster? Doctor Optics makes really good sights, I had their MRDS that I sold to a buddy when I got an Aimpoint. He put it on a scope offset and it's still going strong. I know HERA Arms had a prototype (for a very short period of time) of a red-dot with a flip up screen, I don't think it ended up being feasible at all but maybe it's a better evolution rather than such a teeny window. https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/hera_arms_cqs_01-tfb.jpg View Quote |
|
|
I'd like to try one, as I think this may be the case. This looks far more concealable than an RMR or the new Aimpoint pistol sight... but I'm sure there are some trade offs with that small window. Any of these around in the USA yet? Price?
|
|
The logical "best" solution would be a body that projects a dot to the air above the base. Given that this is not yet possible, this sight does look to present some differences to the current offerings.
As was pointed out (and speculated in posts above), the transmitter being inside the glass means mitigation for an oft times complaint of projected dots (from the rear like most). This being rain, snow or debris fouling the emitter at the back. Obviously you could still have issues with junk on the glass, but it would easier to wipe the glass surfaces, than to clear crud out of an emitter recess. I think this is a positive improvement. This moves the MRDS towards the tube style design. Back to my first point of a reflector less dot floating above the slide, given that the proper way to shoot these things is both eyes open, focus on the target with dot superimposed, reducing the body of the sight also seems like a step in the right direction. I have an easier time doing this with the old JPoints v. RMR's, as there is just less body to "look" past. Although the old JPoints just do not hold a candle to the RMR in terms of ruggedness. Envision a fiber optic single post rear sight, with a battery supplying power (light) to the fiber. This would theoretically be as close as you could get to floating a dot in the air above the sight. It seems to me that this sight is moving towards that direction. How can we project and reflect a dot, with minimal hardware to project and contain a battery of sufficient size to work for a reasonable amount of time. Adjustment screws and mechanisms, as well as things like motion switches or even brightness adjustment mechanisms add size. The JPoints had/have as an accessory a shimming plate. This is a wedge/tapered plate that is used to lower or raise the dot, relative to the mounting surface. These work great if you run out of vertical adjustment (up or down) on your gun. You can stack them in various ways to make different adjustments. If this sight lacks POI adjustment, it seems that it would be simple to design a tapered shim to possibly control the vertical a bit. Although this works on a rear projected dot, not sure the same geometries apply to a bottom projected dot? maybe. I find this sight intriguing, for sure. |
|
|
Quoted:
The gun guy in me thinks that's awesome, but the IT security guy in me thinks I'm going to be sending your contacts pictures of my ballsack. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted:
The real future is bore sighted pistols slaved to Bluetooth enabled contact lenses. this is gonna be big yall, gonna have our own NSN and huge DOD contracts |
|
The problem i see with it being so low is that like factory sights, it won't clear a suppressor. That is one big upside of all the current setups.
I really need to get my M&P done. |
|
Quoted:
From what I can find it does have windage and elevation adjustments. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted:
I don't know if it's been pointed out but this sight has a front and rear glass with the emitter in between. So water won't get to the emitter. Also no windage or elevation adjustments. It was originally designed for shotguns and called the Docter quick sight. Again, not saying you’re wrong, just confused with their info. |
|
I listened to the linked video in the OP a couple of times to try and clarify things in my mind.
It sounds like Noblex acquired the Docter brand or some parts of it. he noted that this sight is old technology, modernized. I think this why there is confusion between the limited info out there. The Docter video shows a rail mount. The Noblex link shows a MOS solution. I "think" that maybe this sight is/was a shotgun solution made by Docter, that Noblex decided to fit to an MOS plate to perhaps put the sight back into the market. Looks like maybe vaporware until summer or fall. I heard in the video 3 moa or 6 moa. Owning a Glock 41 MOS, I find this sight interesting. But not holding my breathe, for sure. |
|
Quoted:
I hope you are right. Not saying you're wrong, but that description in the google translation refers to the Doctor C series (cerakote, safety orange, etc.), so it might not be describing the right sight? Again, not saying you're wrong, just confused with their info. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I don't know if it's been pointed out but this sight has a front and rear glass with the emitter in between. So water won't get to the emitter. Also no windage or elevation adjustments. It was originally designed for shotguns and called the Docter quick sight. Again, not saying you're wrong, just confused with their info. |
|
Quoted:
From what I can find it does have windage and elevation adjustments. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted:
I don't know if it's been pointed out but this sight has a front and rear glass with the emitter in between. So water won't get to the emitter. Also no windage or elevation adjustments. It was originally designed for shotguns and called the Docter quick sight. |
|
Quoted:
Window seems a bit too small. The RMR window is small, but still workable...I don't know how well that one will be. Impact on top of the optic will transfer to the base instead of the glass thus prevent it from shattering easily. Trijicon RMR seems to be the only one to resist glass shattering when the pistol is dropped from shoulder height. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Window seems a bit too small. The RMR window is small, but still workable...I don't know how well that one will be. Quoted:
Is there any purpose to the wings on the sides? |
|
Quoted:
Yup this is how we get cool stuff. One thing I’d really like to keep seeing is more standardization for the mounting footprint. Eventually then we see more and more factory guns optimized for it. View Quote |
|
Quoted:
I would think the M17 contract did that long term as the guns are all cut for the deltpoint footprint. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted:
Yup this is how we get cool stuff. One thing I’d really like to keep seeing is more standardization for the mounting footprint. Eventually then we see more and more factory guns optimized for it. Either way we are going to keep seeing improved optics from everyone and that’s a win for everyone. |
|
Quoted:
Guess we’ll see. Couple of the guys I know that train like crazy prefer the DPP but also all say if they had to pick one for a fighting or defense gun it would be the RMR as they’ve seen it be a little tougher. Either way we are going to keep seeing improved optics from everyone and that’s a win for everyone. View Quote |
|
Definitely a step in the right direction over aimpoints acro.
|
|
|
Quoted:
You mean the really far in the future View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted:
The real future is bore sighted pistols slaved to Bluetooth enabled contact lenses. Attached File |
|
|
So where is the emitter on this thing? External/exposed, or internal to that glass assembly?
|
|
|
Quoted:
I'll be honest. I want to see a pop-up RMR-type sight that flips up when you draw, or can be pushed down to use iron sights. Im certain that it has no advantages, but I has been drinking. View Quote |
|
Quoted:
Quoted:
So where is the emitter on this thing? External/exposed, or internal to that glass assembly? If I dunk it in water, does it continue to work? Can foreign debris block the emitter? I cannot tell. The pictures were taken with a potato and I cannot read the barbarian script. |
|
Quoted:
Explain to me as if to a small child: If I dunk it in water, does it continue to work? Can foreign debris block the emitter? I cannot tell. The pictures were taken with a potato and I cannot read the barbarian script. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
So where is the emitter on this thing? External/exposed, or internal to that glass assembly? If I dunk it in water, does it continue to work? Can foreign debris block the emitter? I cannot tell. The pictures were taken with a potato and I cannot read the barbarian script. There are two lenses placed close together, the emitter is sandwiched in between them, so no it cannot be block by foreign debris. ETA: Also from what I'm gathering this is made of steel instead of aluminum, so it should be significantly stronger than most MRDS on the market. |
|
Looks like Optics Planet has it available for order, although I doubt they actually have any in stock at the moment.
https://www.opticsplanet.com/noblex-docter-optics-glock-m-o-s-red-dot-sight.html |
|
|
Do want!...will buy/try for sure.
Picked up a 19.5 MOS for just this purpose, hoping to reduce the carry footprint with this setup as compared to my Roland. |
|
Quoted:
Looks like Optics Planet has it available for order, although I doubt they actually have anything in stock at the moment. https://www.opticsplanet.com/noblex-docter-optics-glock-m-o-s-red-dot-sight.html View Quote |
|
Quoted:
As earlier noted, there are two models -- the shotgun model (without adjustments) and this one (with adjustments). View Quote In any case the only authoritative source is the manufacturer itself. Note how there is no reticle adjustment range indicated. For Noblex Sight C there is (ca. 125 x 95 MOA). |
|
Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!
You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.