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Posted: 8/24/2017 9:26:23 AM EDT
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How does it work with EBT ? 
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Posted: 8/24/2017 9:49:17 AM EDT
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Soda taxes aren't about revenue. They're who t trying to stop people from drinking Soda. Just like taxes on cigarettes and other items.
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Posted: 8/24/2017 10:17:51 AM EDT
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They should be thrilled that their system is actually working!
The lower the revenue, the less soda people are buying. Congratulations!!! How clever of them. |
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Posted: 8/24/2017 10:26:17 AM EDT
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Still brought in almost $40 million, not exactly a failure |
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Posted: 8/24/2017 10:31:23 AM EDT
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and cut the sales base by nearly half - it hurt all the vendors in the taxed area (the ones who actually do the work of stocking shelves, cashiers, drivers, etc) - and gave money to the fucking city government who does absolutely nothing value added for that product. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Still brought in almost $40 million, not exactly a failure |
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Posted: 8/24/2017 11:15:26 AM EDT
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Who even drinks soda anymore? Aside from beer, drinking your calories is dumb
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Posted: 8/24/2017 11:17:38 AM EDT
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A new study from market research firm Catalina found people in Philadelphia are still buying sugary drinks, but they're traveling outside city limits to stock up. The liberals there don't care as long as there's less freedom and more money in their pocket they don't care. |
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Posted: 8/24/2017 12:24:45 PM EDT
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And anyone that thinks the schools will get more funds from the tax is dreaming. Well they may get some, but gov loves to tax something for schools, that money goes into the schools account so to speak. Then about the same amount of money goes back out to the general fund.
It's all a shell game. |
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Posted: 8/24/2017 3:51:49 PM EDT
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So it's OK for the gov to tax things it doesn't like or thinks will help people? Do you not see the issue with that? If people are too stupid to avoid becoming a burden to society, society needs to step up and make them think harder about their personal choices. If you heard the commercials about how this was negatively affecting poor families on Wic and snap you would barf in your mouth a bit. Poor people need soda? Nah, not a good way to spend the money I give them, make a better choice. |
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Posted: 8/24/2017 4:00:03 PM EDT
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They do. The tax includes sugard soda, diet soda, and, I believe, juice and 'Kool Aid' type beverages. |
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Posted: 8/24/2017 4:14:08 PM EDT
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So 15% off of their projections? Am I missing something else cause that sounds like a victory for them. They dont really care whos business they hurt. The longer the tax is in play and people are used to it the revenue steadily increases.
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Posted: 8/24/2017 4:18:53 PM EDT
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That must mean we must tax sodas three times as much!!!!
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Posted: 8/24/2017 4:23:59 PM EDT
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This is also their goal. It's a win all around for them, no matter what you do. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I would never buy another soft drink again if I lived there. It's a win all around for them, no matter what you do. Will the city eliminate spending, or look for another tax? |
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Posted: 8/24/2017 7:08:52 PM EDT
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So 15% off of their projections? Am I missing something else cause that sounds like a victory for them. They dont really care whos business they hurt. The longer the tax is in play and people are used to it the revenue steadily increases. |
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Posted: 8/24/2017 7:12:32 PM EDT
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Sure but how much revenue was not brought in because people who travelled outside the city to get soda also bought other things like gas and groceries that the city didn't get to collect sales tax on? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So 15% off of their projections? Am I missing something else cause that sounds like a victory for them. They dont really care whos business they hurt. The longer the tax is in play and people are used to it the revenue steadily increases. Clothing and food bought in groceries is tax-free. |
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Posted: 8/24/2017 7:16:05 PM EDT
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"pre-k" taxpayer funded day care and make work for otherwise worthless people. More subsidies for the single moms out there. |
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Posted: 8/24/2017 7:20:11 PM EDT
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"pre-k" taxpayer funded day care and make work for otherwise worthless people. More subsidies for the single moms out there. |
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Posted: 8/24/2017 7:24:58 PM EDT
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Most studies show that Pre-K provides significant benefits for middle class children as well as the poor. The poor simply benefit more. |
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Posted: 8/24/2017 7:25:07 PM EDT
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the coke and pepsi guys are here 6-8 hours almost every day sorting and putting out soda. people from philthydelphia come here (about 10 miles outside city) to get soda. i see people getting full shopping carts of just soda. it is nothing to see 5 pallets of both coke and pepsi come in almost daily.
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Posted: 8/24/2017 8:08:24 PM EDT
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Im sure the people who work for the distributors or in retail that have been laid off or had their pay cut or had to shift routes out of the city are thrilled to be helping the denizens of Philly with their sugar addiction.
OP's motivations are suspect for not even mentioning this huge factor in his post. Zero Hedge has a nice synopsis. Even The Blaze lol -80 jobs @ Pepsi -40 jobs @ Coke |
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Posted: 8/24/2017 9:46:43 PM EDT
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Why is the same information posted three times in OP's "summary?" 
https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/d/df/Dord.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/150?cb=20060508193752 Quoted:
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Why is the same information posted three times in OP's "summary?"
https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/d/df/Dord.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/150?cb=20060508193752  Attached FileMy cut and paste has a burst mode. Quoted:
Im sure the people who work for the distributors or in retail that have been laid off or had their pay cut or had to shift routes out of the city are thrilled to be helping the denizens of Philly with their sugar addiction. OP's motivations are suspect for not even mentioning this huge factor in his post. Zero Hedge has a nice synopsis. Even The Blaze lol -80 jobs @ Pepsi -40 jobs @ Coke 
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Posted: 8/24/2017 10:50:04 PM EDT
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They raised the age for tobacco to 21 inside city limits here. The little store up the road sells about triple the amount of cigarettes they used to. Unintended consequences.
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Posted: 8/25/2017 8:30:58 AM EDT
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Gotta luv the people cheering for the government's power to use an American's own money to punish them.
Just another peg in the control board that emboldens them to add more and more. |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 8:33:44 AM EDT
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Most studies show that Pre-K provides significant benefits for middle class children as well as the poor. The poor simply benefit more. Most studies show we will all be dead 3 years ago because of global warming. The ONLY variable to scholastic achievement is parental involvement. illiterate baby sitters watching 30 kids on the government's dime so mommy can work at starbucks provides no benefits to the child. but massive benefits to democrat politicians and single mothers to have even less responsibility for their actions. |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 9:16:25 AM EDT
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Gotta luv the people cheering for the government's power to use an American's own money to punish them. Just another peg in the control board that emboldens them to add more and more. The people that want the government to use it's power to go after things they don't like far outnumber the people that want freedom.
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Posted: 8/25/2017 10:09:21 AM EDT
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Soda taxes aren't about revenue. They're who t trying to stop people from drinking Soda. Just like taxes on cigarettes and other items. That should cut consumption significantly. |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 10:18:34 AM EDT
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Taxes on soda/cigarettes/etc are never levied to stop someone from using that product. Oh, that is how the tax is sold to the sheep but the end game is simply to collect more revenue.
The .gov knows you are going to bitch for a while yet continue to buy the product and pay the new taxes. |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 10:19:56 AM EDT
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Where's the Tea Party? 
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Posted: 8/25/2017 10:25:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryFrom the zerohedge article:
Mayor Kenney harshly rebuked reports of coming layoffs late Tuesday night. "I didn't think it was possible for the soda industry to be any greedier," Kenney said in an emailed statement. “…They are so committed to stopping this tax from spreading to other cities, that they are not only passing the tax they should be paying onto their customer, they are actually willing to threaten working men and women's jobs rather than marginally reduce their seven figure bonuses." |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 10:35:35 AM EDT
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"partially blamed the shortfall on retailers stocking up on products before the tax went into effect"
Bullshit. No store owner took up valuable/limited space to buy months work of soda. They just buy it outside city limits. |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 10:42:26 AM EDT
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Mayor Kenney harshly rebuked reports of coming layoffs late Tuesday night.
"I didn't think it was possible for the soda industry to be any greedier," Kenney said in an emailed statement. “…They are so committed to stopping this tax from spreading to other cities, that they are not only passing the tax they should be paying onto their customer, they are actually willing to threaten working men and women's jobs rather than marginally reduce their seven figure bonuses."  Attached File Incredible. And embarrassing.
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Posted: 8/25/2017 10:48:03 AM EDT
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Soon to be the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, Explosives and Sodas.
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Posted: 8/25/2017 11:59:44 AM EDT
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I bet their next step is to raise the tax rate to hit that goal. Plus make it illegal to bring untaxed soda into the city.  |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 12:09:10 PM EDT
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They also lost on sales of the product itself. Less profit for the store, less taxes being paid to the city. It really is an all around loss for the city.
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Posted: 8/25/2017 12:44:54 PM EDT
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From the zerohedge article: Mayor Kenney harshly rebuked reports of coming layoffs late Tuesday night. "I didn't think it was possible for the soda industry to be any greedier," Kenney said in an emailed statement. “…They are so committed to stopping this tax from spreading to other cities, that they are not only passing the tax they should be paying onto their customer, they are actually willing to threaten working men and women's jobs rather than marginally reduce their seven figure bonuses." Quote HistoryQuoted:
Mayor Kenney harshly rebuked reports of coming layoffs late Tuesday night. "I didn't think it was possible for the soda industry to be any greedier," Kenney said in an emailed statement. “…They are so committed to stopping this tax from spreading to other cities, that they are not only passing the tax they should be paying onto their customer, they are actually willing to threaten working men and women's jobs rather than marginally reduce their seven figure bonuses." 
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Posted: 8/25/2017 12:55:38 PM EDT
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Taxes on soda/cigarettes/etc are never levied to stop someone from using that product. Oh, that is how the tax is sold to the sheep but the end game is simply to collect more revenue. The .gov knows you are going to bitch for a while yet continue to buy the product and pay the new taxes. |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 1:13:46 PM EDT
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No, not really. The two I mentioned are meant to help people, your example is purely political pandering to their base. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yep,just like the Seattle "gun violence tax" is only to prevent,well,gun violence. https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/2026082_Seattle-Council-Candidate-Grant-Wants-to-Double-Gun-Violence-Tax-.html&page=1&anc=67738252#i67738252 Senator moynihan back in NY years ago used to put forward a 1000% tax on ammo every year to go towards stopping gun violence. I can see that happening when the dems get back in power..... The two I mentioned are meant to help people, your example is purely political pandering to their base. |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 1:21:04 PM EDT
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Make the new taxable items an exclusion from purchase on EBT.
Help those folks get healthy so that they can go back to work! |
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