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Posted: 12/14/2016 9:16:39 AM EDT
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OP is why we can't have nice things.
When people have an actual issue with CS they are busy taking care of morons like that. Go shoot it... |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 9:30:33 AM EDT
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Come on now, guy thought he had a legitimate problem and you guys are elaborately being dicks about it.
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Posted: 12/14/2016 9:34:33 AM EDT
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Oddly enough, I ordered an untested BCG on black Friday (they had a great deal on 9310 bolts/bcgs) and the bolt I received has a laser etched MPI mark. I can't be certain, but the finish feels much smoother than than any phosphate BCG I've handled and I suspect it might even be a nitride finish even though it was advertised as phosphate (does anyone know how I could confirm this suspicion without having to send out of for testing?).
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Posted: 12/14/2016 9:34:41 AM EDT
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When I sign off critical parts I make sure there is a drawing note that includes, "do not mark by stamping or etching".
I do not want to add a crack inititiation site after careful sizing to avoid fatigue issues. I'm also curious about the "HPT" and how that would be conducted, besides the issue is a shock load, not a static pressure. Sounds like hooey. |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 9:34:56 AM EDT
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look what I found in the parts bin OP
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Posted: 12/14/2016 9:42:21 AM EDT
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I have one of their bcg's that is marked 'MP' and has the o-ring.
Also have a couple of theirs marked Hpt/Mpi. Same specs, theyre just sourced from different manufacturers. |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 9:47:44 AM EDT
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Holy shit. I've got a BCM bolt that's hand etched. They musta cheated me too.
It's a vast AR vendor conspiracy. |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 9:52:43 AM EDT
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Will OP ever respond? Lol!
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Posted: 12/14/2016 9:54:02 AM EDT
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I feel bad for companies that have to deal with customers like this. Yup. This is how customers get fired. |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 9:58:36 AM EDT
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Am I reading this correct, this guy is pissed about what's etched on a bolt? Thumbs to PSA for even responding to his dog shit to start with.
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Posted: 12/14/2016 9:59:36 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/14/2016 10:07:23 AM EDT
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I'm so sick of PSA threads I could vomit.
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Posted: 12/14/2016 10:07:33 AM EDT
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the 39339 item description doesn't even state the bolt is marked. But The consensus is that they have the markings that you wanted and I've ordered the same bcg received the markings that you wanted. But with psa if it's not in the description it might not be exactly what you want. But you know what? You still receives a damn good bolt carrier group
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Posted: 12/14/2016 10:07:49 AM EDT
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That is why I do bot buy parts from PSA. They sell 3 grades(proving parts aren't just parts) how do you know they are picking from the correct bin when pulling orders?
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Posted: 12/14/2016 10:12:05 AM EDT
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You're complaining about what's etched on the bolt? To be fair my BCG's that I got on Black Friday (Palmetto State Armory 5.56 Premium Full Auto Bolt Carrier Group - 8779) all have HPT/MPI laser etched on the bolt itself and I would be annoyed if they weren't. I played this game with BCM as I got a BCG from them before they engraved anything on the carrier and the bolt only had MP laser engraved. I know for a fact it came from them and I have the invoice. They said that it was that way in the beginning to me and then in another thread said that it never happened that way. DD doesn't engrave anything on their bolts. That makes it very difficult to prove what it is if you want to sell it someday for some reason. |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 10:41:18 AM EDT
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In for the dog pile.
OP, do you organize your M&Ms? Shave your neckbeard or grow a real one, assemble your rifle, and shoot it. Jeez, the OCD is strong with this one. |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 10:43:48 AM EDT
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To be fair my BCG's that I got on Black Friday (Palmetto State Armory 5.56 Premium Full Auto Bolt Carrier Group - 8779) all have HPT/MPI laser etched on the bolt itself and I would be annoyed if they weren't. I played this game with BCM as I got a BCG from them before they engraved anything on the carrier and the bolt only had MP laser engraved. I know for a fact it came from them and I have the invoice. They said that it was that way in the beginning to me and then in another thread said that it never happened that way. DD doesn't engrave anything on their bolts. That makes it very difficult to prove what it is if you want to sell it someday for some reason. Yes the etch DD on the side of the carrier. They have been doing this for some time now. |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 10:48:40 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/14/2016 10:52:45 AM EDT
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No, you were not ripped off. You are acting like a child however.
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Posted: 12/14/2016 10:57:30 AM EDT
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That is why I do bot buy parts from PSA. They sell 3 grades(proving parts aren't just parts) how do you know they are picking from the correct bin when pulling orders? How do you know any parts picker is pulling the right parts for any order anywhere? |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 10:59:30 AM EDT
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I don't like PSA.
That said, High Pressure Inspected means they fired a very hot proof load with at least the bolt. This drops the expected life of the bolt, and HPI will never find issues these days. Almost never. |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:00:21 AM EDT
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And of you wanted quality, shouldn't have bought cheap junk.
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:00:46 AM EDT
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I don't know how many of you read my last post half month ago. The point is that PSA sent me an PREMIUM BCG that is not HPI/MPI marked, instead with hand etched "MP". FYI, i copy the link below. https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_301/280466_Ordered_PSA_premium_BCG__Got_freedom_.html Some friends suggested me open another post at Industry Section of This Forum. Then I did, and it works. https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_301/280466_Ordered-PSA-premium-BCG--Got-freedom-.html PSA contacted me and insist that it IS their premium BCG w/o logo. And I insist too for a premium one with HPI/MPI markings which is the actual picture on their webpage for 39339. As I wish, I got exchange, and it just was delivered this afternoon. Unfortunately, still I got MP markings on it, and the new BCG was placed in the same tube I sent back to them. That means they elaborately picked MP mark for me to demonstrate their idea "MP is the premium marking". What a joke, man. http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u481/pla7480/public%20photo/replaced_all20parts_zpsb4dwwh8i.jpg http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u481/pla7480/public%20photo/replaced_staking_zpsneqx3mzz.jpg below pasted is the same card tube sent back to them. I believe this after comparing with the picture in previous post. they have same pattern of oil stain. http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u481/pla7480/public%20photo/replaced_box_zpsedoxtzfp.jpg what should i do next ? So frustrating. Does laser engraving magically make things MPI tested? Because I will send you a wood bolt and laser engrave MPI on it for you if you must have MPI. While I'm at it, I'll make some other stuff 14k so you can sell it at gold cost. |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:01:42 AM EDT
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You're complaining about what's etched on the bolt? yes he is.... 
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:03:57 AM EDT
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And of you wanted quality, shouldn't have bought cheap junk. Lol |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:04:15 AM EDT
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FWIW- The PSA "Premium" bolt is about as good as they get. Yes, they do have the "PTAC" and "Freedom" lines for budget guns as well but the BCG the OP got is as good as any available anywhere.
DISCLAIMER- I don't work for them. I have no vested interest in them. They don't need me to defend them. |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:05:09 AM EDT
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yes he is.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You're complaining about what's etched on the bolt? yes he is.... What is the standard with this issue? Don't barrels get engraved/etched indicating the testing pedigree? |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:05:14 AM EDT
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Premium bolts
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:08:31 AM EDT
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look what I found in the parts bin OP https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/383464/20161214-082622-107318.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/383464/20161214-082637-107319.jpg That's about how mine came. BCG was in another clear plastic tube in there. |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:14:07 AM EDT
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That's about how mine came. BCG was in another clear plastic tube in there. Yours came with a clear plastic tube!!!! Now I feelz ripped off 
Seriously OP your being "that guy". |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:14:22 AM EDT
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that is not hand etched. not even close.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U420FY_NIU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRNuegwZu6gQuote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't know how many of you read my last post half month ago. The point is that PSA sent me an PREMIUM BCG that is not HPI/MPI marked, instead with hand etched "MP". FYI, i copy the link below. https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_301/280466_Ordered_PSA_premium_BCG__Got_freedom_.html Some friends suggested me open another post at Industry Section of This Forum. Then I did, and it works. https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_301/280466_Ordered-PSA-premium-BCG--Got-freedom-.html PSA contacted me and insist that it IS their premium BCG w/o logo. And I insist too for a premium one with HPI/MPI markings which is the actual picture on their webpage for 39339. As I wish, I got exchange, and it just was delivered this afternoon. Unfortunately, still I got MP markings on it, and the new BCG was placed in the same tube I sent back to them. That means they elaborately picked MP mark for me to demonstrate their idea "MP is the premium marking". What a joke, man. http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u481/pla7480/public%20photo/replaced_all20parts_zpsb4dwwh8i.jpg http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u481/pla7480/public%20photo/replaced_staking_zpsneqx3mzz.jpg below pasted is the same card tube sent back to them. I believe this after comparing with the picture in previous post. they have same pattern of oil stain. http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u481/pla7480/public%20photo/replaced_box_zpsedoxtzfp.jpg what should i do next ? So frustrating. that is not hand etched. not even close. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U420FY_NIU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRNuegwZu6gThat bolt isn't peen or rotary etched. It's lasered. I have near exclusive access to all three and am literally whipping up an engraving right now on a Gravograph IS7000 as a type this. Peen and rotary would take longer than is economically viable and they'd have to really beat the shit out of it with the peener and got over it ten times with the rotary. The laser takes a second to get that result. |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:19:01 AM EDT
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What is the standard with this issue? Don't barrels get engraved/etched indicating the testing pedigree? I think OP would have more legitimacy if he could actually demonstrate a PROBLEM with the BCG. Right now he just seems butthurt that he can't get a seat at the cool kids table with laser-etched, MPI/HPT credentials. |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:28:26 AM EDT
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Email to the pSA. Ask them kindly to do the needful. Thak you come again.
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:42:44 AM EDT
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I am happy to see the OPs plight in GD and not in the tech forum.
We can offer him insight seldom found in the tech pages. |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:44:27 AM EDT
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Why the Fuck did I click on this thread? OP, get a life and a grammar class.  This. Do you even speaka de Engrish? |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 11:49:12 AM EDT
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That is why I do bot buy parts from PSA. They sell 3 grades(proving parts aren't just parts) how do you know they are picking from the correct bin when pulling orders?
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Posted: 12/14/2016 12:29:43 PM EDT
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OP is a troll or you have no common sense. GTFO!
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Posted: 12/14/2016 12:33:12 PM EDT
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That is why I do bot buy parts from PSA. They sell 3 grades(proving parts aren't just parts) how do you know they are picking from the correct bin when pulling orders? DERP indeed. I could say the same thing about ANY thing from food to medication... Maybe he pulled his brain from the wrong bin... |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 12:33:41 PM EDT
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In for the dog pile. OP, do you organize your M&Ms? Shave your neckbeard or grow a real one, assemble your rifle, and shoot it. Jeez, the OCD is strong with this one. Whenever I get a package of plain M&Ms, I make it my duty to continue the strength and robustness of the candy as a species. To this end, I hold M&M duels. Taking two candies between my thumb and forefinger, I apply pressure, squeezing them together until one of them cracks and splinters. That is the “loser,” and I eat the inferior one immediately. The winner gets to go another round. I have found that, in general, the brown and red M&Ms are tougher, and the newer blue ones are genetically inferior. I have hypothesized that the blue M&Ms as a race cannot survive long in the intense theater of competition that is the modern candy and snack-food world. Occasionally I will get a mutation, a candy that is misshapen, or pointier, or flatter than the rest. Almost invariably this proves to be a weakness, but on very rare occasions it gives the candy extra strength. In this way, the species continues to adapt to its environment. When I reach the end of the pack, I am left with one M&M, the strongest of the herd. Since it would make no sense to eat this one as well, I pack it neatly in an envelope and send it to M&M Mars, A Division of Mars, Inc., Hackettstown, NJ 17840-1503 U.S.A., along with a 3×5 card reading, “Please use this M&M for breeding purposes.” This week they wrote back to thank me, and sent me a coupon for a free 1/2 pound bag of plain M&Ms. I consider this “grant money.” I have set aside the weekend for a grand tournament. From a field of hundreds, we will discover the True Champion. There can be only one. |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 12:36:45 PM EDT
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I was looking around to find the ones I got in Sept, but couldn't find them or remember if I got the premiums or something else. They were free with something I bought, ended up with 5 of them FPSA and their free shit Yea I bought like 10 of those deals. PSA takes more of my money than any other retailer |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 12:38:53 PM EDT
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And of you wanted quality, shouldn't have bought cheap junk. lol, you're at least consistent in the utter bullshit that you post. 
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Posted: 12/14/2016 12:39:51 PM EDT
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Never mind that they're in labeled cardboard tubes. 
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Posted: 12/14/2016 12:41:45 PM EDT
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Just to clear the air, we're more than willing to send you a return label for the item if you're not satisfied with it, for exchange or refund.
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Posted: 12/14/2016 12:47:40 PM EDT
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Just to clear the air, we're more than willing to send you a return label for the item if you're not satisfied with it, for exchange or refund. Don't think any air needed to be cleared. But good on you PSA. 
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Posted: 12/14/2016 12:49:44 PM EDT
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Just to clear the air, we're more than willing to send you a return label for the item if you're not satisfied with it, for exchange or refund. awesome CS PSA |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 12:51:10 PM EDT
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Just to clear the air, we're more than willing to send you a return label for the item if you're not satisfied with it, for exchange or refund. Great CS with you guys! Sorry you have to deal with a-holes. Merry Christmas! |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 12:51:13 PM EDT
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Just to clear the air, we're more than willing to send you a return label for the item if you're not satisfied with it, for exchange or refund. Lol.....it's already apparent you tried to help him. Some customers you just have to wipe your hands clean of. Don't worry, the rest of us will buy more stuff to make up for it Fairly sure your shipping department is tired of seeing my address the last two months.
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Posted: 12/14/2016 12:58:01 PM EDT
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OP, you're an insult to special snowflakes everywhere. |
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Posted: 12/14/2016 12:58:15 PM EDT
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Come to think of it, I'll take that piece of junk off your hands for half price OP.
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Posted: 12/14/2016 1:08:06 PM EDT
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WAT!
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