Quoted: i would open carry if it was legal in SC. i would also carry an AK slung on my back if i could too. everywhere i went. im not joking.

I really can't believe that OC isn't legal here.

We should push for some carry law reforms here, to include increasing legal places of carry, permitting open carry, and increasing carry permit reciprocity with other states.

There's no reason such an otherwise free state as ours is should not be leading the way when it comes to a legally armed citizenry.

Quoted: Quoted: I think open carry is just plain dumb. You WILL be faced with numerous people and police that do not know the law. It could get you killed by some dumbass cop. Also, there is no doubt about it that a criminal has a element of surprise advantage over you, and he may just shoot you right off the bat when he sees you are armed. I think people that open carry love the shock factor that it generates when they are in public. It's like a woman that walks around without a bra and a tight shirt. They love the attention. Flamesuit on. Have you ever tried it?

It's not legal in Texas to open-carry a sidearm and I wouldn't do it were legal (if I had the option of legal concealed carry). I prefer to remain low-key when it comes to carrying weapons. Overtly provoking a potential confrontation with law enforcement is never a good idea. The only way I'd open-carry a sidearm (and it would likely be rarely) is if concealed carry was not allowed by law, and open-carry was legal and my only option.

Quoted: Quoted: Man, I wish Texas allowed open carry.  Around here, masses of libtards would shit their pants!   I don't no....any one know the answer?

Open-carry for a handgun is not legal in Texas. However, I think you can open carry a shotgun or rifle with the stipulation of something like you must not be carrying it in a threatening manner or creating a disturbance. Personally I wouldn't want to test it with the police around here in Austin. I'm sure most cops are not familiar with the law and even if they were familiar with the law, I wouldn't want to leave it up to their interpretation of what is threatening or creating a disturbance. I'd bet $100 that if you slung an AR15 over your shoulder and walked through downtown Austin, you'd have a SWAT team pointing a dozen weapons at your ass within 10 minutes.

I can't find a year for this but it's interesting.

Article

Then What Are You?

Grassroots RKBA Activism at City Hall

Commentary

By Dennis J. O'Connor

On May 28th, seven VCDL members converged on Richmond City Hall to apprise the city council that the gun ban signs in city parks were illegal and had to come down.  Those of us who were armed showed our permits to the deputies manning metal detectors at either door and were waved through without incident.  However, ten minutes later I alone was inexplicably called out by a deputy and informed that no firearms were permitted at the council meeting.  After unsuccessfully challenging the deputy, I left the building.

VCDL President Philip Van Cleave, who was already scheduled to speak at that meeting, took the opportunity to lambaste the council for their violation of my civil rights, and over the next several weeks spoke with the Richmond Sheriff's office on behalf of VCDL to demand satisfaction..  An internal affairs inquiry ensued, and we were led to believe that Richmond's Deputy Sheriffs were apprised of citizens' rights to bear arms, and the situation had been resolved.

On Monday, July 22, I drove up to Richmond to attend the City Council Meeting for the purpose of testing Richmond's compliance with state law regarding the rights of gun owners.

As I pulled into the parking lot opposite City Hall, the thought occurred to me that since I had driven all this way to put them to the test, I might as well "push the envelope" and carry open.  So I walked into the lobby with a .45 semi-auto in my Fobus holster in plain view on my right hip.  As I signed in at the desk, Deputy Sheriff M stood up and asked "What's that?" while pointing to my hip.

"My firearm" I replied.

"What are you doing with it here?"

"I always carry it."

"Are you RPD (Richmond Police)?"

"No."

"You can't go into the council meeting with that!"

"Oh, really?  Is there an ordinance against it?"

"Yes."

"I'd like to see it."

"I don't have it here.  They probably have one upstairs."

"I would be interested in getting a copy of it, since if one exists it is clearly in violation of state law, especially in light of the preemption bill signed by the Governor that was implemented July 1st."

He stared at me a moment, taking it all in.

"Have you been to council meetings before?" he asked.

"Yes."

"With that?" (pointing to my gun)

"The last time I was here I carried concealed" (neglecting to tell him I was evicted for it).

At this, he ignored me for a couple minutes, overseeing others signing in, glancing back at me occasionally and probably hoping I would go away.  He seemed confused as to what to do.

"I'd like to see the ordinance" I reminded him.

"You're a detective!" he announced hopefully, looking for an easy out.

"No" I said.

Exasperated now, and with raised voice he asked "Then what are you?" Smiling, I answered "a citizen."

After a pause to mull this over, Deputy M said "Show me your handgun permit."

"You mean in case I ever decide to conceal it?  As you can see, this is not concealed.  I'm carrying open.  No permit is required." (I had a concealed carry permit in my wallet, but I refused to let that be my ticket in, as it would set a bad precedent for citizens without permits who legally carry open).

He stood there looking at me, and after another pause, demanded "show me some ID."

When I complied, he compared my ID to my signature where I had signed in, as if I would have signed in under an alias.  Maybe he just needed to feel as though he was in better control of the situation than he really was.

"OK, come with me" he said with resignation.  We took the elevator to the 2nd floor, and rounded the corner to where Deputy D was manning the metal detector outside the council chambers.  Deputy D was the one who had evicted me for concealed carry two months before, and we immediately recognized each other.

"Ohhh, I know him," sighed Deputy D with a roll of his eyes when he saw me coming.  I gave him a cheerful hello, which he didn't return.  "I know him," he said again to Deputy M.

It was clear that Deputy D had been counseled concerning the right of citizens to bear arms since our last interaction, but apparently he was only advised to ask for a concealed carry permit to allow access, which he now did.

At this, Deputy M and I now both chimed in together: "But it's not concealed!"

"I don't need a permit for open carry" I added.

There was a look of total confusion and consternation on Deputy D's face.  He and Deputy M looked back and forth at each other, at me, at my gun, and then looked at each other again, seemingly at a loss about how to handle open carry.

"He showed me an ID" offered Deputy M suggestively.

"OK, show me your ID" demanded Deputy D.

I handed it to him, and he barely glanced at it before handing it back, turning away from me and saying "just go in."

"Who, me?" I asked, wanting to be sure.

"Yea, just go in," he said again with finality, glad to be done with me, and surely not wanting to have to deal with his supervisors again on the issue of legally armed citizens.

Although there was little on the agenda to interest me (I'm not even a Richmond resident), I stayed for two hours just to make sure the deputies didn't have a change of heart or mind.  But they wisely left well enough alone.

VCDL has blazed yet another trail for the freedom of Virginia's gun owners.  So feel free to carry your firearm to the Richmond City Council Meeting, either open or concealed as you prefer.  It is your right.

Dennis J. O'Connor
Director, Virginia Citizens Defense League