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Posted: 7/3/2008 5:52:12 AM EDT

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Involuntary community service is slavery.

It has become all but a requirement for college admission.

Posted: 7/3/2008 5:52:42 AM EDT

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Involuntary community service is slavery.

It has become all but a requirement for college admission.

And college graduation, for that matter.

Posted: 7/3/2008 5:52:45 AM EDT

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This is how close we are to having Obama

www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Pres/Pngs/Jul03.png
Obama 317 McCain 221

oh its in the bag. All he has to run on is being the first black guy to run. Thats it. Thats all he needs to seal the deal.

Most Americans are stupid as hell anyway. Every single Democrat I spoke to is voting for Obama because he is not an old white guy. America wants change. There is no lie there. Hell voting in Santa Claus is change enough for most people.

Sometimes I hate me fellow countrymen. I would almost feel guilty saying that but I really consider them traitors more then fellow countrymen.

Posted: 7/3/2008 5:54:42 AM EDT

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This is how close we are to having Obama

www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Pres/Pngs/Jul03.png
Obama 317 McCain 221

oh its in the bag. All he has to run on is being the first black guy to run. Thats it. Thats all he needs to seal the deal.

Most Americans are stupid as hell anyway. Every single Democrat I spoke to is voting for Obama because he is not an old white guy. America wants change. There is no lie there. Hell voting in Santa Clause is change enough for most people.

Sometimes I hate me fellow countrymen. I would almost feel guilty saying that but I really consider them traitors more then fellow countrymen.

About the only thing the Founding Fathers never thought about was what to do when "We The People" start betraying ourselves and our country.

Posted: 7/3/2008 5:55:53 AM EDT

[#5]

I don't think it should be mandatory for anyone, including high school and college students to have to 'serve' their county by performing a minimum number of community service hours every year in order to graduate. Let them volunteer to do it, but don't force them to do it.

Posted: 7/3/2008 5:57:56 AM EDT

[#6]

The Rolling Stones knew Obama:

"...Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name
But whats puzzling you
Is the nature of my game
I stuck around st. petersburg
When I saw it was a time for a CHANGE
Killed the czar and his ministers
Anastasia screamed in vain
I rode a tank
Held a generals rank
When the blitzkrieg raged
And the bodies stank
Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name, oh yeah
Ah, whats puzzling you
Is the nature of my game, oh yeah..."

Posted: 7/3/2008 5:58:17 AM EDT

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Why doesn't he suggest the lazy ghetto trash pull up their boot straps and help them selves......Empowering them to help themselves is much more valuable that giving them more handouts. They have these kind of volunteer programs in my town, where people vo9lunteer to go into the bad neighborhoods to pick up garbage and litter....makes me ill to think people are to lazy to pick up their own neighborhood.

Right on! Obama wants to force the rest of us to help out those who refuse to help themselves to start with

Posted: 7/3/2008 5:59:33 AM EDT

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I hate Obama as much as the next guy, but I think you guys are reaching on this one. Where does he specifically say people must serve the "government"? Looks like this is a call to voluntarily serve the country (ie, your fellow citizens), not the government.

Americans are the most generous people on Earth. we give more, in time and money, to private charities than any other population.

It's typical that a commie like Obama ignores all that is done "to help our neighbor" through PRIVATE charitible organizations. It's as if because it's not done through the government, it's doesn't exist.

Of course, having a new "National Service Program" will require thousands of new government jobs for administrators, counselors, coordinators, and other uselss make-work positions. And a whole new crop of government employee union members.

Posted: 7/3/2008 6:00:02 AM EDT

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Involuntary community service is slavery.

It has become all but a requirement for college admission.

And college graduation, for that matter.

Hooray for Babyboomer Socialism!

Posted: 7/3/2008 6:01:59 AM EDT

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The more I think about this, the more ticked off I get.

This jerk really does think he's a friggin' messiah.

How *DARE* he lecture the American people on patriotism and love of country!

Posted: 7/3/2008 6:02:00 AM EDT

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This is how close we are to having Obama

www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Pres/Pngs/Jul03.png
Obama 317 McCain 221

oh its in the bag. All he has to run on is being the first black guy to run. Thats it. Thats all he needs to seal the deal.

Most Americans are stupid as hell anyway. Every single Democrat I spoke to is voting for Obama because he is not an old white guy. America wants change. There is no lie there. Hell voting in Santa Claus is change enough for most people.

Sometimes I hate me fellow countrymen. I would almost feel guilty saying that but I really consider them traitors more then fellow countrymen.

I agree with what you are saying but answer me this.....just what type of campaign is McCain actually running? His campaign seriously sucks and is indicative of the abilities of 71 year old men.

Although.....I have been hearing the polls are tightening. I am however preparing myself for President Obama.

Posted: 7/3/2008 6:02:02 AM EDT

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Why doesn't he suggest the lazy ghetto trash pull up their boot straps and help them selves......Empowering them to help themselves is much more valuable that giving them more handouts. They have these kind of volunteer programs in my town, where people vo9lunteer to go into the bad neighborhoods to pick up garbage and litter....makes me ill to think people are to lazy to pick up their own neighborhood.

Right on! Obama wants to force the rest of us to help out those who refuse to help themselves to start with

How do you extrapolate "forced" from the article? I've read it a few times, and nowhere does it say people will be forced to do community service.

Posted: 7/3/2008 6:06:21 AM EDT

[#13]

The Hitler Youth has been reborn, thanks to another socialist pig!

Posted: 7/3/2008 6:06:41 AM EDT

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But the future of the United States does not just depend on the military, he said, "It also depends on the teacher in East L.A., the nurse in Appalachia, the after-school worker in New Orleans, the Peace Corps volunteer in Africa and the Foreign Service officer in Indonesia."

COMMUNISM!!!!

Posted: 7/3/2008 6:13:50 AM EDT

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This is how close we are to having Obama

www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Pres/Pngs/Jul03.png
Obama 317 McCain 221

oh its in the bag. All he has to run on is being the first black guy to run. Thats it. Thats all he needs to seal the deal.

Most Americans are stupid as hell anyway. Every single Democrat I spoke to is voting for Obama because he is not an old white guy. America wants change. There is no lie there. Hell voting in Santa Claus is change enough for most people.

Sometimes I hate me fellow countrymen. I would almost feel guilty saying that but I really consider them traitors more then fellow countrymen.

I agree with what you are saying but answer me this.....just what type of campaign is McCain actually running? His campaign seriously sucks and is indicative of the abilities of 71 year old men.

Although.....I have been hearing the polls are tightening. I am however preparing myself for President Obama.

AS much as I hate to say it. McCain should focus on how he crosses party lines to get stuff done and he isnt blind to one party. (not that the things he has done while crossing the lines are favorable to a minority like us) He is being painted as GWB III. An extension of what we have the the moment. People are tired as hell with what we currently have and most will not tolerate it much longer.

the liberals see him as just another old white republican and that he will be the same as GWB. While they are similar in some respects, they are also a good bit different. He needs to focus on his differences.

Posted: 7/3/2008 6:16:23 AM EDT

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I think what Obama is trying to do with this initiative is to equate community service to military service so he can assert equal standing to McCain. Pathetic.

Posted: 7/3/2008 6:16:59 AM EDT

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I agree with the statement Obama made, as it stands. I disagree wholeheartedly with the hidden meanings and agenda that stands behind it. That's why I made my original post. That IS something all politicians should be saying, and they should mean it when they say it. Of course, life should be all rainbows and puppydogs, too.

Let's shuck this right on down to the cob.

Just why the hell should somebody like me be forced to "serve" other people who just plain choose to not take care of themselves?

Sounds like someone wants to bring back slavery.

Posted: 7/3/2008 6:20:04 AM EDT

[#18]

Obama expects us to "serve" the government

So did Jack Kennedy.
5sub

Posted: 7/3/2008 6:22:35 AM EDT

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Why doesn't he suggest the lazy ghetto trash pull up their boot straps and help them selves......Empowering them to help themselves is much more valuable that giving them more handouts. They have these kind of volunteer programs in my town, where people vo9lunteer to go into the bad neighborhoods to pick up garbage and litter....makes me ill to think people are to lazy to pick up their own neighborhood.

Right on! Obama wants to force the rest of us to help out those who refuse to help themselves to start with

How do you extrapolate "forced" from the article? I've read it a few times, and nowhere does it say people will be forced to do community service.

You'll never get an answer, because people read into things what they want to read.

Posted: 7/3/2008 6:27:41 AM EDT

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Smart move on his part. Most of his voters are going to be thinking "yay, government jobs" We all know who is going to get hiring preference in his government jobs.

whitey need not apply

+1000000000000000

Posted: 7/3/2008 6:28:10 AM EDT

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This is how close we are to having Obama

www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Pres/Pngs/Jul03.png
Obama 317 McCain 221

oh its in the bag. All he has to run on is being the first black guy to run. Thats it. Thats all he needs to seal the deal.

Most Americans are stupid as hell anyway. Every single Democrat I spoke to is voting for Obama because he is not an old white guy. America wants change. There is no lie there. Hell voting in Santa Clause is change enough for most people.

Sometimes I hate me fellow countrymen. I would almost feel guilty saying that but I really consider them traitors more then fellow countrymen.

About the only thing the Founding Fathers never thought about was what to do when "We The People" start betraying ourselves and our country.

Oh, they thought of it... that's why there's a Bill of Rights. Within those rights lie all the necessary ingredients for "Hope and Change."

This article is interesting. Personally, I think every American civilian should serve or own land before they become a citizen (and able to vote). The Bill of Rights and Constitution applies to all, but the priviledges of citizenship (voting) should not come just from the fact of birth.

Those who have no stake in the course of this nation have no business voting to direct that course.

I'm not even saying you have to serve in the military... serve as a cop or a firefighter or peace corps or whatever... Just serve the nation before you have the audacity to vote yourself treats from the public coffers.

Obviously, those on welfare cannot vote.
Matt

ETA: Bear in mind, that when the Constitution was written, only land-owners could vote.

Posted: 7/3/2008 6:29:51 AM EDT

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Why doesn't he suggest the lazy ghetto trash pull up their boot straps and help them selves......Empowering them to help themselves is much more valuable that giving them more handouts. They have these kind of volunteer programs in my town, where people vo9lunteer to go into the bad neighborhoods to pick up garbage and litter....makes me ill to think people are to lazy to pick up their own neighborhood.

Right on! Obama wants to force the rest of us to help out those who refuse to help themselves to start with

How do you extrapolate "forced" from the article? I've read it a few times, and nowhere does it say people will be forced to do community service.

You'll never get an answer, because people read into things what they want to read.

No one will ever TELL you it's forced. Read "Atlas Shrugged." They will do everything they can to avoid telling you they will imprison you or shoot you for violating their vision. They will appeal to your patriotism, then your pocket-book... then guilt.
Matt

Posted: 7/3/2008 6:37:05 AM EDT

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The best way obama could serve his country is to go be the president of kenya. The US certainly does not need his type of change.

Posted: 7/3/2008 6:51:34 AM EDT

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Remember get used to a lower standard of living. The Democrats and environmentalist as working very hard toward that end.

One sentence.

Pure gold.

Posted: 7/3/2008 6:52:21 AM EDT

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new opportunities for national service

Grab your wallet, folks!

Posted: 7/3/2008 6:53:05 AM EDT

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Dear Senator Obama,

We have these organizations in the United States called "churches" and "charities". These are organizations comprised largely of volunteers who donate their time and their own money to attempt to help out people in need. In churches, assisting the poor and the needy is a tenet of faith. I know this may come as a revelation to you since the church you went to for 20 years didn't seem to teach that, but simply spend some time in churches that actually have something to do with Christianity and you'll discover that they are working to address problems of crime, healthcare, poverty, and social decay rather than just "god damning" America.

Similarly, if you spend time looking at charities you'll discover that there are already a lot of people who care deeply about issues effecting the elderly, children, the disabled, and the poor and who have organized around a need they see to try and do something about it. You'll also find that the majority of funding for those organizations comes from donations from ordinary folks who also care enough to open their wallets to effect change.

In short, Senator, there are already many millions of people in this country who are in some way working to fix the problems they see in our society. They have been doing this for a long time. They were taught from an early age by their parents that helping others was virtuous, and their parents were taught to do it by people who were already spending their days in service to others long before "Ask not what your country can do for you" came from the lips of President Kennedy.

In short, Senator, America seems to be doing a pretty good job of trying to fix the problems of our society without the directive of a president. I know you've been very busy with your political career, but I'm forced to wonder if perhaps you had spent more time hanging around ordinary folks rather than race baiting "preachers", unrepentant terrorists, and similarly distasteful individuals...maybe you would already know that.

Posted: 7/3/2008 6:53:51 AM EDT

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Involuntary community service is slavery.

Don't you think there's a segment of society that relishes the thought of suburban white folks being made to serve under an Obama administration?

Posted: 7/3/2008 6:56:28 AM EDT

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Involuntary community service is slavery.

Don't you think there's a segment of society that relishes the thought of suburban white folks being made to serve under an Obama administration?

Yeah. The new slavery. Ultimate reparations, eh ?

Posted: 7/3/2008 6:59:16 AM EDT

[#29]

Fuck that turd. I won't be voting for him, and I won't be supporting his bullshit, feel good, socialist programs if he gets elected to office.

Posted: 7/3/2008 7:01:14 AM EDT

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I'll do my part by voting against you

+100

Posted: 7/3/2008 7:04:06 AM EDT

[#31]

I would like to type an long and detailed response to Obama................

Screw it, it isnt worth my time.

LOL He wants me to do something. Sure

COME MAKE ME, and BTW, FUCK YOU OBAMA!

Posted: 7/3/2008 7:05:10 AM EDT

[#32]

Not that I agree with Obama's plan, I've always heard good things about AmeriCorps.

Posted: 7/3/2008 7:05:23 AM EDT

[#33]

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Involuntary community service is slavery.

Don't you think there's a segment of society that relishes the thought of suburban white folks being made to serve under an Obama administration?

Yeah. The new slavery. Ultimate reparations, eh ?

Ghetto housing project setting:

"Yo, La'Treena!! Check this out. Da Gubmint sent this new housemaid ta wash my four hunnert pound ass.

"Git over here, Granny and wash my ass! You want your social security check, you know you gotta fulfill your public service duty. Uh-huh."

Posted: 7/3/2008 7:07:44 AM EDT

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"Loving your country shouldn't just mean watching fireworks on the 4th of July," he said. "Loving your country must mean accepting your responsibility to do your part to change it. If you do, your life will be richer, and our country will be stronger."

This is something ALL of our candidates should be saying. Wasn't there another famous guy that once said, "Ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country..."

Yeah, and he almost got us into a war with the Soviets because he was such a lightweight and the Russkies could see that he was in over his head.

I wonder what Obie could pull off if he manages to snag the top slot in the corporation.

I laugh when people compare Obama to JFK. It's really not a very flattering comparison. To my mind it says, "All style, no substance".

Posted: 7/3/2008 7:08:17 AM EDT

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I got this far:

"Instead of a call to service, we were asked to go shopping," Obama said. "Instead of a call for shared sacrifice, we gave tax cuts to the wealthiest Americans in a time of war for the very first time in our history."

It has been proven time and again that the wealthiest in our country have always shared the heaviest tax burden. It's a fallacy that the liberals just keep trying to propogate because the poor people buy it. I thought Obama was going to be "different" than the establishment? Sounds like the same old liberal lies to me.

Posted: 7/3/2008 7:11:37 AM EDT

[#36]

But the future of the United States does not just depend on the military, he said, "It also depends on the teacher in East L.A., the nurse in Appalachia, the after-school worker in New Orleans, the Peace Corps volunteer in Africa and the Foreign Service officer in Indonesia."

Oh, now I see who this speech is pandering to...

Posted: 7/3/2008 7:12:22 AM EDT

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"Loving your country shouldn't just mean watching fireworks on the 4th of July," he said. "Loving your country must mean accepting your responsibility to do your part to change it. If you do, your life will be richer, and our country will be stronger."

Truer words have never been spoken. Although, I have a feeling my definition of service to my country and yours differ slightly you commie piece of shit.

I don't think he's a communist.
I fully agree with Obama's statement, though I doubt our vision matches.

Posted: 7/3/2008 7:22:49 AM EDT

[#38]

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Why doesn't he suggest the lazy ghetto trash pull up their boot straps and help them selves......Empowering them to help themselves is much more valuable that giving them more handouts. They have these kind of volunteer programs in my town, where people vo9lunteer to go into the bad neighborhoods to pick up garbage and litter....makes me ill to think people are to lazy to pick up their own neighborhood.

Right on! Obama wants to force the rest of us to help out those who refuse to help themselves to start with

How do you extrapolate "forced" from the article? I've read it a few times, and nowhere does it say people will be forced to do community service.

You'll never get an answer, because people read into things what they want to read.

I've got your little answer right here.

How does OBAMAMASSIA expect to PAY for these "new opportunities for Americans to serve" to be created?

Even if these are voulenteer organizations, the cost for creating, coordination, and management will be covered by TAXES.

If someone is inclined to donate their time, work, and money to charity, I suspect they don't need the President of the United States to "create" an opportunity for them to do so. The implication on OBAMAMASSIA's part is the creation of NEW GOVERNMENT RUN SOCIAL PROGRAMS.

GET IT?

-3D

Posted: 7/3/2008 7:28:59 AM EDT

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No one will ever TELL you it's forced. Read "Atlas Shrugged." They will do everything they can to avoid telling you they will imprison you or shoot you for violating their vision. They will appeal to your patriotism, then your pocket-book... then guilt.
Matt

If this vision of social service that Obama likes to call "volunteering" is realized, it will be forced indirectly. Obama has even detailed how many hours he thinks young adults should have "donated" to society by the time they reach college. And we all know how this works, the Federal Government controls the purse strings of the education system. Schools that "adopt" a system of tracking and recognizing "student volunteers" will be rewarded with $$ and the students will probably find easier access to Pell Grants and such. Obama is a socialist at heart and this is just more proof.

Barrack Obama BIN LADEN is a political terrorist.

Posted: 7/3/2008 7:29:45 AM EDT

[#40]

Carrot: New jobs! New jobs! Oh joy!

Stick: You want your social security check? Go wipe some ghetto mama's 400lb ass.

Posted: 7/3/2008 7:32:25 AM EDT

[#41]

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"Loving your country shouldn't just mean watching fireworks on the 4th of July," he said. "Loving your country must mean accepting your responsibility to do your part to change it. If you do, your life will be richer, and our country will be stronger."

This is something ALL of our candidates should be saying. Wasn't there another famous guy that once said, "Ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country..."

Call me a troll if you want. I want ALL of our candidates to love our country. I want ALL our candidates to want to serve Americans. I want ALL Americans to love America, and want to make her a better place.

It galls me that there's not a single candidate running that fits this criteria.

America would be a better place if people would quit asking the government for everything and for politicians to stop asking us to serve them or society.

This country was founded on the idea of individualism. It works best when people work for their own self interests, not that of their neighbor, community, or their government.

I dont really tend to believe what we have today is "working best".

Posted: 7/3/2008 7:34:08 AM EDT

[#42]

You mean working hard and having your tax dollars taken forcibly by the government isn't enough?

Posted: 7/3/2008 7:35:05 AM EDT

[#43]

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Why doesn't he suggest the lazy ghetto trash pull up their boot straps and help them selves......Empowering them to help themselves is much more valuable that giving them more handouts. They have these kind of volunteer programs in my town, where people vo9lunteer to go into the bad neighborhoods to pick up garbage and litter....makes me ill to think people are to lazy to pick up their own neighborhood.

Right on! Obama wants to force the rest of us to help out those who refuse to help themselves to start with

How do you extrapolate "forced" from the article? I've read it a few times, and nowhere does it say people will be forced to do community service.

People are already forced to do community service in most middle schools, high schools and colleges. I think Obama is talking about an expansion of this.

Posted: 7/3/2008 7:43:39 AM EDT

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Even if these are voulenteer organizations, the cost for creating, coordination, and management will be covered by TAXES.

If someone is inclined to donate their time, work, and money to charity, I suspect they don't need the President of the United States to "create" an opportunity for them to do so. The implication on OBAMAMASSIA's part is the creation of NEW GOVERNMENT RUN SOCIAL PROGRAMS.

GET IT?

-3D

Yeah, that's true, 3D. Rude, the way you say it, but it's still true. The bad thing is, though, that I'm so used to my tax money going to pay for silly-assed shit, that part of it barely phases me any more. At this point, we GIVE away our tax money to almost anybody with enough brains to write their name in the blank. It would be great if they had to EARN that welfare check somehow. At least that way we'd GET something for our money.

Posted: 7/3/2008 7:45:09 AM EDT

[#45]

Funny, another bunch of socialists had that same idea around 70 years ago:

Posted: 7/3/2008 7:45:41 AM EDT

[#46]

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Why doesn't he suggest the lazy ghetto trash pull up their boot straps and help them selves......Empowering them to help themselves is much more valuable that giving them more handouts. They have these kind of volunteer programs in my town, where people vo9lunteer to go into the bad neighborhoods to pick up garbage and litter....makes me ill to think people are to lazy to pick up their own neighborhood.

Right on! Obama wants to force the rest of us to help out those who refuse to help themselves to start with

How do you extrapolate "forced" from the article? I've read it a few times, and nowhere does it say people will be forced to do community service.

People are already forced to do community service in most middle schools, high schools and colleges. I think Obama is talking about an expansion of this.

This is why I would never subject my child to the public school system. Sound like to me, it wants a mandatory government law forcing students to do this.

Posted: 7/3/2008 7:47:49 AM EDT

[#47]

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Obama expects us to "serve" the government

So did Jack Kennedy.
5sub

I see what you did there. LOL

Posted: 7/3/2008 7:49:41 AM EDT

[#48]

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Even if these are voulenteer organizations, the cost for creating, coordination, and management will be covered by TAXES.

If someone is inclined to donate their time, work, and money to charity, I suspect they don't need the President of the United States to "create" an opportunity for them to do so. The implication on OBAMAMASSIA's part is the creation of NEW GOVERNMENT RUN SOCIAL PROGRAMS.

GET IT?

-3D

Yeah, that's true, 3D. Rude, the way you say it, but it's still true. The bad thing is, though, that I'm so used to my tax money going to pay for silly-assed shit, that part of it barely phases me any more. At this point, we GIVE away our tax money to almost anybody with enough brains to write their name in the blank. It would be great if they had to EARN that welfare check somehow. At least that way we'd GET something for our money.

You are very mistaken if you think his intent is for those on welfare to do this new call to public service.

Like every other Democrat politician in DC, he has written off that segment of society as useless and only viable as a guaranteed voting block each election cycle.

Posted: 7/3/2008 7:51:06 AM EDT

[#49]

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Why doesn't he suggest the lazy ghetto trash pull up their boot straps and help them selves......Empowering them to help themselves is much more valuable that giving them more handouts. They have these kind of volunteer programs in my town, where people vo9lunteer to go into the bad neighborhoods to pick up garbage and litter....makes me ill to think people are to lazy to pick up their own neighborhood.

Right on! Obama wants to force the rest of us to help out those who refuse to help themselves to start with

How do you extrapolate "forced" from the article? I've read it a few times, and nowhere does it say people will be forced to do community service.

People are already forced to do community service in most middle schools, high schools and colleges. I think Obama is talking about an expansion of this.

This is why I would never subject my child to the public school system. Sound like to me, it wants a mandatory government law forcing students to do this.

In my state (Maryland), the community service thing in high school is a state requirement to get a diploma. Homeschooling won't get around it. At least not here. I don't know about Virginia.

Posted: 7/3/2008 7:51:46 AM EDT

[#50]

...create new opportunities for national service...

....Obama said Americans were ready to answer a new call for national service...

"will ask for your service and your active citizenship when I am president of the United States"

"we will direct that service to our most pressing national challenges"

...set goals for middle- and high-school students to serve 50 hours a year of public service, and for college students to serve 100 hours a year...

"loving your country must mean accepting your responsibility to do your part to change it"

"a call for shared sacrifice"

"We need your service, right now, at this moment"

This has the sound and feel for like something out of the 1930's. You know when there was a huge push to build superhighways by a Nationalist Socialist party...

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