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Link Posted: 6/14/2009 7:46:56 AM EDT
[#1]



Quoted:


I have a good friend who is as liberal as the day is long, and told me before the election how excited he was that for the first time, he and his (now) voting age kids can work together for a presidential candidate. He lives in Northern California and I wonder sometimes how he'll make out if the pot in his state really boils over, as it appears to be close to doing. He lives on about 20-25 acres outside of his town, has his own water well, and is pretty self sufficient. That said, he proudly told me one day he promised his kids years ago there were two things he'd never touch, drugs and guns.




He's the one guy I use as a personal barometer for a question like this. I respect him very much, have been friends with him for years, but wonder what I'd do if he lived near me if everything came crashing down. He's very bright and resourceful and I have no doubt that he'd be an asset in such a situation, but at the same time, I really would like to ask him if he doesn't somehow feel responsible for what's happening to this country. For the first time in a long time, we've avoided political discussions, but I'm sure we'll be having a real doozy when it happens.



I'm sure I'd help him because of our personal history, and because I have no doubt he's do the same for me. That said, I can't imagine any other Obama supporter I'd feel comfortable helping.
Good news,



If you need to head west in a SHTF scenario, go to his place and take over.




Kick his ass out, or make him work for you.





 
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 7:47:32 AM EDT
[#2]
That's tough. I would want them to understand who did this and how they did it. I would most likely help them, but my family comes first.
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 7:48:44 AM EDT
[#3]
Will 0bama supporters still exist after shtf? I would think without gov. subsidies the species would die off.
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 7:51:21 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Quoted:
This poll reflects petty human nature at its best!


Your response reflects the "help me no matter how much damage I've done to your freedom" attitude at it's worst.



+1000



Link Posted: 6/14/2009 7:51:50 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
If Obama's policies bring about SHTF, the only thing I'll help his supporters to is a blindfold and a last cigarette.


I wouldn't give them either one...just shoot and be done with them.

HH
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 7:54:18 AM EDT
[#6]
I've got family members that voted for him so I can't say that I wouldn't help them.
However, they're alot better off financially than me so they really wouldn't need
my help.
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 7:55:38 AM EDT
[#7]
I will help anyone who comes by my place




help them find the right direction away from my place
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 7:56:05 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
If Obama's policies bring about SHTF, the only thing I'll help his supporters to is a blindfold and a last cigarette.


I enjoy your posts so much sir.

I couldn't agree less...

Let em get their own fucking cigarette.

Link Posted: 6/14/2009 8:08:46 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
This poll reflects petty human nature at its best!


Your response reflects the "help me no matter how much damage I've done to your freedom" attitude at it's worst.



+1000






I think the man was making more of a reference to an human attitude more than a bunch of highly mis-directed individuals who just happen to be dopey as a bonus.

Wound not probably want them comming up to my door either, on the other hand I don't think that I would start waving a horse pistol around in thier faces and turn the dogs loose and start slapping jaws and stuff.

Well almost all of them anyway.
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 8:11:37 AM EDT
[#10]
I won't turn anyone away. But everyone could use more pack horses and latrine diggers
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 8:12:55 AM EDT
[#11]
I've always been a bit reclusive, self-reliant, family oriented and very selective of who I call "friend". My focus has always been to care for those folks and I imagine little would change in a SHTF situation.



However, if I saw someone in need that I (we) could assist without endangering my group, then I would probably offer a helping hand. But God help anyone who tried to DEMAND or use FORCE to get the help they want. That would most certainly turn into a VERY bad day for them.
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 8:14:16 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Quoted:
If Obama's policies bring about SHTF, the only thing I'll help his supporters to is a blindfold and a last cigarette.


I enjoy your posts so much sir.

I couldn't agree less...

Let em get their own fucking cigarette.



Screw the cigarette altogther.  











Link Posted: 6/14/2009 8:14:52 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
keep the useful ones

eat the rest



This
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 8:15:09 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
I can sum up all I feel in my heart with just two words:

FUCK

THEM


THIS
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 8:17:58 AM EDT
[#15]
Of course, take them in, feed them, clothe them, everything, so long as they are willing to work hard for it.

Finding a translator ain't cheap, and there's no other way with which to communicate in Commu-nese to other idiots "get the fuck off my lawn".



But a serious reply...no. I would trade with them, even if the trade involved labor, but it would be short-term and they sure as hell wouldn't be sleeping here. If someone shows up and needs food or water, they'd better have something nice to trade for it.
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 8:23:06 AM EDT
[#16]




What BBQ sauce would be best on an Obama supporter?

Spicy? Original? Honey Mustard? Or is it a question of nationality flavor?






Link Posted: 6/14/2009 8:27:37 AM EDT
[#17]
Sterilize the men and use the women as brood mares.
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 8:31:44 AM EDT
[#18]
Any piece of shit obama lover that comes around me will be singing the blues in short order. I detest these people.
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 7:37:35 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:

Quoted:
I have a good friend who is as liberal as the day is long, and told me before the election how excited he was that for the first time, he and his (now) voting age kids can work together for a presidential candidate. He lives in Northern California and I wonder sometimes how he'll make out if the pot in his state really boils over, as it appears to be close to doing. He lives on about 20-25 acres outside of his town, has his own water well, and is pretty self sufficient. That said, he proudly told me one day he promised his kids years ago there were two things he'd never touch, drugs and guns.

He's the one guy I use as a personal barometer for a question like this. I respect him very much, have been friends with him for years, but wonder what I'd do if he lived near me if everything came crashing down. He's very bright and resourceful and I have no doubt that he'd be an asset in such a situation, but at the same time, I really would like to ask him if he doesn't somehow feel responsible for what's happening to this country. For the first time in a long time, we've avoided political discussions, but I'm sure we'll be having a real doozy when it happens.

I'm sure I'd help him because of our personal history, and because I have no doubt he's do the same for me. That said, I can't imagine any other Obama supporter I'd feel comfortable helping.
Good news,

If you need to head west in a SHTF scenario, go to his place and take over.

Kick his ass out, or make him work for you.

 



He lives in the Northern California wine country and I'm sure he has an excellent wine cellar. Nice secluded land with a well stocked wine cellar? I can think of worse places to bug out to.

Link Posted: 6/15/2009 5:08:43 AM EDT
[#20]





Quoted:





Quoted:




Quoted:


This poll reflects petty human nature at its best!






Your response reflects the "help me no matter how much damage I've done to your freedom" attitude at it's worst.











+1000



I'd never VOLUNTARILY fuck over my fellow Americans.





Respectfully sir, someone who would do that in a crisis is not someone I want in my great country.





Letting someone suffer to spite them because they checked the wrong box at the polls is PETTY.





 
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 5:23:27 AM EDT
[#21]
I would let the people who voted this clown into office fucking starve. THAT is the level of contempt I have for their kind.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 5:24:16 AM EDT
[#22]
Does "owning" mean "helping"?
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 5:34:25 AM EDT
[#23]
Communism needs to die.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 5:35:44 AM EDT
[#24]



Quoted:


I'll help anyone who legitimately can't help themselves. Or is willing to work.


This.



 
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 5:37:37 AM EDT
[#25]
The only people who I am concerned about in that situation is my family and those who have something of value which could be useful to me. Oh yea, and hot wimmenz.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 5:45:24 AM EDT
[#26]
Hell yes I'd help them, what kind of guy do you think I am?

Help them run faster leaving my AO, and if they aren't fast enough, help them fertilize my crops.



Link Posted: 6/15/2009 5:50:21 AM EDT
[#27]
Hard labor and cannon foder.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 5:51:02 AM EDT
[#28]
People who wanted their change & got it, they now can get out of it on their own.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 5:52:08 AM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
This poll reflects petty human nature at its best!


Your response reflects the "help me no matter how much damage I've done to your freedom" attitude at it's worst.



+1000




I'd never VOLUNTARILY fuck over my fellow Americans.

Respectfully sir, someone who would do that in a crisis is not someone I want in my great country.

Letting someone suffer to spite them because they checked the wrong box at the polls is PETTY.
 




Oh, I'm sure they feel the same way.

In this aspect food and supplies are valuable and limited items. You can help who you want, but everyone else here is just being selective and not looking to help people who purposely helped fuck America. Many of them being a serious drain on society and source of crime too. Not to mention that they'd probably look to take what you have if they get the chance and now they know you've got some to spare.
I'm sure it will only be that one time too and they won't tell anyone you helped them and are giving handouts.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 5:59:09 AM EDT
[#30]



Quoted:
What BBQ sauce would be best on an Obama supporter?




Spicy? Original? Honey Mustard? Or is it a question of nationality flavor?






Obviously, it will have to be some kind of RED sauce.




 
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 6:09:40 AM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
I would let the people who voted this clown into office fucking starve. THAT is the level of contempt I have for their kind.


Yup.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 6:11:23 AM EDT
[#32]
Due to some stupid family members who voted for the Whiny One, there would be limited help
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 6:15:48 AM EDT
[#33]
If shit was hitting the fan then I would not care so much who they had voted for in the previous collection.  I would care if they had guns, provisions, any sort of skillet set, etc.

So chances are I probably would not help them because while it is not true for all liberals(who are we kidding yes it is), the Obama supporters will have nothing of value and will only be dead weight.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 6:16:00 AM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:

Quoted:




What BBQ sauce would be best on an Obama supporter?

Spicy? Original? Honey Mustard? Or is it a question of nationality flavor?


Obviously, it will have to be some kind of RED sauce.
 


Lol, ain't that the truth. Hopefully not too salty.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 6:19:37 AM EDT
[#35]
I am finding fewer people who admit to me they voted for Obama.  I think the new "code word" for having voted for Obama is, "I just couldn't vote for either of them."  I am hearing more of that.  I assume they voted for Obama.

And, no I won't help them.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 6:21:15 AM EDT
[#36]
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 9:44:46 AM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:
Quoted:
i might help them after they have accomplished these tasks.

-write two copies of the US Constitution in 100 size leroy text.
-write a signed letter apologizing for their failed ideology.
-write a 10 page report explaining in detail why liberalism/socialism fails.

otherwise they can FOAD, and live out the life they created for themselves.


I think I would see whether they know how to spade a garden, and butcher a calf, too..  Ideology is one thing, but I need to eat, and the second part is especially useful for weeding out the useless and unrepentent greens, bunny huggers, and commies.



most survival skills can be taught effectively in a short period of time.
people usually learn pretty quick, since it effectively is OJT.

liberalism has no place in real world much less a survival situation.
i need them to stop being weak, dependent, dishonest, and close minded.

these tasks will help me determine if i should spend the time and effort to help them or not.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 10:25:13 AM EDT
[#38]
i would only help them as a means of not targeting them and using them as resources (ie labor, etc)
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 10:30:46 AM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
I have a good friend who is as liberal as the day is long, and told me before the election how excited he was that for the first time, he and his (now) voting age kids can work together for a presidential candidate. He lives in Northern California and I wonder sometimes how he'll make out if the pot in his state really boils over, as it appears to be close to doing. He lives on about 20-25 acres outside of his town, has his own water well, and is pretty self sufficient. That said, he proudly told me one day he promised his kids years ago there were two things he'd never touch, drugs and guns.

He's the one guy I use as a personal barometer for a question like this. I respect him very much, have been friends with him for years, but wonder what I'd do if he lived near me if everything came crashing down. He's very bright and resourceful and I have no doubt that he'd be an asset in such a situation, but at the same time, I really would like to ask him if he doesn't somehow feel responsible for what's happening to this country. For the first time in a long time, we've avoided political discussions, but I'm sure we'll be having a real doozy when it happens.

I'm sure I'd help him because of our personal history, and because I have no doubt he's do the same for me. That said, I can't imagine any other Obama supporter I'd feel comfortable helping.



It sounds like he's been maintaining your new BOL for you to conquer if the pot boils over.  

Link Posted: 6/15/2009 10:38:33 AM EDT
[#40]
In a true SHTF situation, anyone who doesn't hide is toast, regardless of how many guns they own. Afterwards, any interaction with people will be based on far more important concerns than who they voted for. If I need a tooth pulled, and a dentist will do the job for one pound of chocolate drink mix, I'm not going to care who he/she voted for, and they're not going to care who I voted for.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 10:43:27 AM EDT
[#41]




Quoted:





Quoted:



Quoted:



Quoted:

This poll reflects petty human nature at its best!




Your response reflects the "help me no matter how much damage I've done to your freedom" attitude at it's worst.







+1000


I'd never VOLUNTARILY fuck over my fellow Americans.



Respectfully sir, someone who would do that in a crisis is not someone I want in my great country.



Letting someone suffer to spite them because they checked the wrong box at the polls is PETTY.



Not necessarily that simple.



If it comes down to feeding my own kids or giving food to the libtard woman across the street who voted for Obama I know which ones I'd pick.



Given that a solid majority of Obama supporters are going to EXPECT you to help them in a SHTF situation –– and very likely demand such help and threaten violence if they don't get it –– my plan is to avoid them in any crisis situation if at all possible.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 10:45:44 AM EDT
[#42]
Quoted:
I'll help anyone who legitimately can't help themselves. Or is willing to work.


So you 'll help 10% of the Obama voters.  

Link Posted: 6/15/2009 10:53:21 AM EDT
[#43]
If the SHTF because of his supreme holiness, you won't be able to find anyone who voted for him.  I can hear it now,

"wasn't me"   "nope I didn't vote for him"  "I was out of town that day"  "you must be thinking of my brother" ect ect ect
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 11:10:03 AM EDT
[#44]
In principle, no.  Because people like this never fucking learn a thing until they are made to deal with the consequences of their choice.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 11:13:28 AM EDT
[#45]
Quoted:
Hmmm, you mean guys like my neighbor with the 6 obamao signs in his front yard? The ones that stayed up for a month after the election?  The same clown that runs expired, out of state plates on all 5 of his vehicles?  Mr. "the rules don't aply to me" - that guy?

Ummmm Yeah.  Him & anybody else with those damn yard signs are ballistic testing material during a time of anarchy.

Lem


Turn him in. THe state is looking for revenue these days and I'm suer he will be willing to help.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 11:25:23 AM EDT
[#46]
Who would Jesus Help ??
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 11:26:04 AM EDT
[#47]
I live in a neighborhood where english is a second language.  I believe there are only 3 caucasion families in the entire subdivision.  Of those 3 families, 2 are prius driving, obama sticker having hippies.  I am the 3rd sporting the BFL, noveske and MCLMM stickers.  I choose to not engange them for any reason.



the other neighbors are all of asian decent and speaking with them is very difficult but they are very friendly, maintain thier yards and will always wave when I come out to water my lawn.



If history decides to repeat itself ala LA riots, I know I can count on my asian neighbors to hold down the fort.  They dont take shit from anyone and dont have a problem pulling the open carry action.



Those people, I would help in an instant.  because I know thier culture tells them that they should return the favor.



However, the 2 families that have gone full retard.......they can fend for themselves.  Fuck them.  Fuck them right in the goat ass.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 11:57:26 AM EDT
[#48]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
This poll reflects petty human nature at its best!


Your response reflects the "help me no matter how much damage I've done to your freedom" attitude at it's worst.



+1000




I'd never VOLUNTARILY fuck over my fellow Americans.

Respectfully sir, someone who would do that in a crisis is not someone I want in my great country.

Letting someone suffer to spite them because they checked the wrong box at the polls is PETTY.
 


Not only might I let them suffer, I would give serious consideration to forcing them to slap fight to the death for my entertainment.

Suffering for your poor choices is the only way the world works.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 12:07:23 PM EDT
[#49]
No one except family.

And that family will know very clearly that I'm not helping out of the kindness of my heart but out of familial obligation.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 12:25:44 PM EDT
[#50]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
This poll reflects petty human nature at its best!


Your response reflects the "help me no matter how much damage I've done to your freedom" attitude at it's worst.



+1000




I'd never VOLUNTARILY fuck over my fellow Americans.

Respectfully sir, someone who would do that in a crisis is not someone I want in my great country.

Letting someone suffer to spite them because they checked the wrong box at the polls is PETTY.
 


Don't try to play the patriot card wth me, son. It won't work. Those fellow AMERICANS you are so fond of are wanting to fuck the rest of us over by supporting a man who wants to take what we have gained through hard work, and give it to people who expect equal results rather than equal opportunity. Go make someone else sniff the stinky finger of socialism, it has no place here.

True pettiness is the hordes of wealth-envy ACORN minions that Obama employs to drag down those who achieve, those who strive through personal sacrifice to make their own lives and the lives of their children better, for the sake of those who do NOTHING, achieve nothing, and contribute nothing but whines and complaints about how "unfair" things are because someone else has more than they do, regardless of how they got it.

We know you voted for the douchebag from your election time threads, so you would be helping your own folks out anyway.


We don't owe them anything but scorn, revulsion, and the chance to experience exactly poverty of mind and spirit that they voted for...and that you voted for as well. If it happens, I intend to see that they get that chance. They hate us, and I think it is damn high time we started hating them right back.

Life is not fair, and it will be even less fair when shit hits the fan.
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