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Link Posted: 9/18/2009 6:17:28 PM EDT
[#1]
Immigration "reform" is coming.  It's the leftists' way of ensuring victory in 2010, 2012, 2014, 2016, 2018....

They'll do anything to ram it through.
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 6:20:52 PM EDT
[#2]
Duh, I can't even gahter my thoughts long enough to start ranting.
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 8:47:13 PM EDT
[#3]
Øbama has the brain of a tuna fish.

Sorry Charlie.
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 9:04:57 PM EDT
[#4]
Simple immigration reform:  

Allow anyone with a job offer in the US to immigrate.  End the requirement that companies must prove they cannot find an american to do the job for a greencard to be issued, and streamline the process to allow immigrants to come over within a couple months.  They can stay as long as they have a job or qualify for unemployment, and after 3-4 years, let them qualify for permanent residency.

Also, allow anyone with proven liquid assets of over $50,000USD come and stay as long as they remain over 50k.  Or do a combined thing where if you have $500,000 in total assets (house, savings accounts, etc), you can live in the US freely.
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 9:06:51 PM EDT
[#5]
Well, no shit. How'd THAT happen Mr. President?
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 9:08:28 PM EDT
[#6]
<Sportscaster Voice>

Batting number two in the lineup, from what had been the United States of America.........IMMIGRATION REFORM!





Ready.......set........gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 9:17:33 PM EDT
[#7]
This is code for "let's just do away with the border and make Canada, USA and Mexico one big North American free trade/living zone" just like his New World Order leftist/socialist controllers (Rockefellers/Rothschilds, et al.) have ordered him to do.   Just like magic, the illegal immigrant "problem" disappears in a puff of smoke.    Problem solved.   Now, wasn't that easy?  Uh one little question comes to mind.   Who is going to pay the bill?????  Hint:  Look in the mirror.
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 9:19:58 PM EDT
[#8]
If 13 million white refugees from the U.K , Zimbabwe and South Africa showed up at our gates would Obama feel the same way ?
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 9:28:22 PM EDT
[#9]


before we even discuss any solutions we need to put up a frakkin wall, actually 2 walls with a road down the middle.

take some of the so called stimulus money and build it.



Link Posted: 9/18/2009 9:36:50 PM EDT
[#10]
Nothing should be done until they PROTECT AND SEAL THE BORDERS

'Broken'?....everything in the U S is 'Broken'  or 'Broke' because of the same People trying to 'Fix' things.
Health Care?
Environment?
Economy?
Racism?
Military?
Foreign Relations?

Nothing is Broke.
WE keep allowing the Corruption that Blinds US from seeing the Real Issues

'It's Broke and only I can fix things'
Right, everything BUT ALL 3 Branches are 'BROKE'

Keep sleeping 'Sheep'....WE are witnessing a POLITICAL COUP

Checks & Balances have FAILED for a Reason....Corrupt Agendas Representation
Pimps & Whores
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 9:42:50 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Our immigration system is NOT broken.

Actually NOTHING in the American system is "broken"...except every fucking law that exists to keep us out of these messes.

FUCK OBAMA.

How long have you worked in the immigration system?

 


We have great law-abiding people that become citizens every week...the system WORKS for those who follow it.

As for laws at the border...that is ALL congress and special-interests that is letting the border dissolve.

The laws are there, they are just not followed.
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 9:45:53 PM EDT
[#12]
The only thing broken is OBAMA!!!
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 10:05:42 PM EDT
[#13]
Our POTUS is broken.

Link Posted: 9/18/2009 11:11:05 PM EDT
[#14]
Can't say I'm surprised by this, but it is going to backfire horribly.  It's so obvious that he is desperate to get healthcare passed that he's bringing in ANOTHER hot-button issue.  More and more people are starting to see through his bullshit and they aren't liking what they are seeing.  This is only going to compound his problems and only makes him look tired and pathetic when he starts railing about yet another "broken" system.  Is that really the only card his handlers can play?  Or is this all a ploy to try to dredge up healthcare support?  Support my plan and I'll make you a citizen!"
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 11:17:10 PM EDT
[#15]



Quoted:


Isn't his aunt here illegally?


I know she was. Not sure if she has become a citizen or not.



FWIW, one of my friends came here from Mexico (legally) and got an engineering degree, and just became a citizen (legally). I'm all for it. He's a brilliant guy, and will be a valuable contribution to our workforce.



As for amnesty for people who sneak in the back door in the middle of the night? Fuck no!



When so many people have done it the right way, it diminishes their acheivement to let all these illegals just get a free pass.



 
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 11:22:04 PM EDT
[#16]



Quoted:


The statement 'Our immigration system is broken' is correct.



We do not allow enough LEGAL immigrants, and it is too much of a pain in the ass for those who want to come here LEGALLY to get here, stay here, and become citizens...



Further, it is way, way too easy to stay here as an illegal...



Over 40% of 'illegals' came here legally at first



The 'solution', however, is not amnesty... Far from it... Amnesty for illegals is as stupid an idea, as legalizing drugs to reduce crime....



The 'solution' is a combination of 'carrot' and 'stick'...



First, 'stick' - enact laws requiring electronically verifiable photo ID be shown and validated (in person) for all forms of employment and banking transactions involving the opening of a new account, or the issuance of a loan or line of credit. Enforce said laws against the banks and employers... Also, anyone deported from the US would have their biometric information (All 10 fingers & a retinal image) entered into a 'prohibited from re-entry' database.



Second, 'carrot' - enact laws simplifying and expediting the number of LEGAL immigrants allowed into the US, while maintaining the requirement that anyone ever deported from the US be automatically barred from legal reentry (backed by the aforementioned deportee database).



The illegal immigration problem would largely cure itself with those things done...







I'd like to point out that the immigration system needs to be changed to eliminate quotas favoring one nation over another. Making it easier is a bad idea. The more difficult it is, the more determined and hard working a person must be to get in. That's the kind of people we want coming here, determined and hard working.





 
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 12:04:37 AM EDT
[#17]
I wish someone had the balls to build a huge 20' tall electrified fence across our border.
Power it with windmills too, just to tell the Liberals its "Green" when they bitch about it.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 12:07:23 AM EDT
[#18]
Immigration System is broken, to fix:  DEPORTATION!
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 12:20:39 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
The only thing broken is OBAMA!!!


Didn't Reagan allow 'Amnesty'?
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 1:16:49 PM EDT
[#20]



Quoted:


This is code for "let's just do away with the border and make Canada, USA and Mexico one big North American free trade/living zone" just like his New World Order leftist/socialist controllers (Rockefellers/Rothschilds, et al.) have ordered him to do.   Just like magic, the illegal immigrant "problem" disappears in a puff of smoke.    Problem solved.   Now, wasn't that easy?  Uh one little question comes to mind.   Who is going to pay the bill?????  Hint:  Look in the mirror.


You're not so far off there as the impetus seems to be to obliterate State lines via the Commerce Clause and other schemes.



 
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 1:52:26 PM EDT
[#21]
Obama "Our immigration System is Broken"

No shit, Sherlock! A Kenyan is the president. WYF?
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 2:06:09 PM EDT
[#22]



Quoted:





Quoted:

The statement 'Our immigration system is broken' is correct.



We do not allow enough LEGAL immigrants, and it is too much of a pain in the ass for those who want to come here LEGALLY to get here, stay here, and become citizens...



Further, it is way, way too easy to stay here as an illegal...



Over 40% of 'illegals' came here legally at first



The 'solution', however, is not amnesty... Far from it... Amnesty for illegals is as stupid an idea, as legalizing drugs to reduce crime....



The 'solution' is a combination of 'carrot' and 'stick'...



First, 'stick' - enact laws requiring electronically verifiable photo ID be shown and validated (in person) for all forms of employment and banking transactions involving the opening of a new account, or the issuance of a loan or line of credit. Enforce said laws against the banks and employers... Also, anyone deported from the US would have their biometric information (All 10 fingers & a retinal image) entered into a 'prohibited from re-entry' database.



Second, 'carrot' - enact laws simplifying and expediting the number of LEGAL immigrants allowed into the US, while maintaining the requirement that anyone ever deported from the US be automatically barred from legal reentry (backed by the aforementioned deportee database).



The illegal immigration problem would largely cure itself with those things done...







I'd like to point out that the immigration system needs to be changed to eliminate quotas favoring one nation over another. Making it easier is a bad idea. The more difficult it is, the more determined and hard working a person must be to get in. That's the kind of people we want coming here, determined and hard working.



 


All 'making it harder' does, is limit the folks who can come in to the folks who least want to come in - folks who are already sucessful & happy in their homelands, and can afford an immigration lawyer to do the work for them...



We are so severely underpopulated, that we cannot afford to be that picky...



Also, the lack of competition for jobs 'at the bottom' has stalled our previously 'functional' system of economically mandatory social climbing, and allowed our lower class to sit back and STAY lower class...



 
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 8:23:30 PM EDT
[#23]
Our borders are broken, our immigration system is broken, nothing else for it but to let more illegals in. I mean it's like the economy, you're broke, so why not spend a trillion or more on healtcare. It's the only way to save health care, medicade, economy,  and medicare.
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