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Posted: 12/29/2012 6:23:29 AM EDT
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Set up a site which lists advertisers that advertise with gannett. Stop purchasing things from them, encourage every single human being you know to do the same. This is the answer. Every time the left is dissatisfied with something they begin a boycott and nasty gram campaign that targets the advertisers of whomever has insulted them. The right refuses to use this tactic, "We're above that!". Bullshit. These companies need to be told loud and clear that continuing to support organizations that purposely harm innocent people will result in tens, if not hundreds of thousands of people boycotting their products. A fantastic example of our power is the David Gregory fiasco. This would have been ignored and swept under the rug(still may be) if it weren't for the efforts of this community. We have power if we choose to use it. |
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Posted: 12/29/2012 6:24:25 AM EDT
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In their original request to the county, the paper had wanted to get the list of each permit holders' handguns (one permit can have multiple handguns on it) as well. . . the county refused to supply that.
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Posted: 12/29/2012 6:24:26 AM EDT
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Here's what the Orlando Sentinal had to say in 2006 when the law was enacted in Florida making it illegal to publish names of CCWs or to compile lists of firearms owners and removing that information from the public record.
Shoot down gun bill By Indigo, May 16, 2006 A bill to prevent the public from finding out who has a permit to carry a concealed firearm deserves a quick veto from Gov. Jeb Bush. Lawmakers should have rejected that bill during their recently completed session. Instead, they bowed to pressure from the National Rifle Association. Mr. Bush's veto is needed because there's no valid reason to exempt concealed-weapons license records from the state's open-records law. Government has the authority to issue licenses for a wide range of activities -- from driving to carrying a concealed weapon on the street. 
It's gotten to the point where the news media is no longer a source of information, rather, it is now simply another resource for those asserting control over the citizenry. |
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Posted: 12/29/2012 6:25:26 AM EDT
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If you think about this it kind of counters their own arguments.
#1 Guns are dangerous, it's just a matter of time before a gun owner gets mad and starts killing. #2 So lets get the gun owners mad AT US by publishing their addresses. The only reason you do that is if deep down you realize that even among the 10,000 (or however many) gun owners you publish the addresses of, not a single one is really going to start killing over it. |
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Posted: 12/29/2012 6:28:11 AM EDT
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It would be a shame if some one called a swat team to their house.
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Posted: 12/29/2012 6:30:17 AM EDT
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In Texas, CHL holder information is not public information. I feel real bad for the permit holders who have been outed.
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Posted: 12/29/2012 6:31:37 AM EDT
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Quoted: It would be a shame if some one called a swat team to their house. "I think I smell pot smoke coming from their house". |
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Posted: 12/29/2012 6:32:09 AM EDT
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They don't learn, do they?
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Posted: 12/29/2012 6:35:51 AM EDT
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The publishing of the names of publicly funded abortion recipients was a stroke of genius. They need to find another one to post up that is a liberal cause.
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Posted: 12/29/2012 6:49:26 AM EDT
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Maybe some locals could just get some photos of these "journslists", their homes, their families, and their kids from a public place and post them up online. They want to endanger gun owners and their families with publicly available information, we should return the favor. Neither they nor their families have any expectation of privacy in a public place, so why not show the world -with pictures- what they and their families look like, where their kids go to school, where they work, shop, and live.
Its one thing to publish compiled information. It may be a little more uncomfortable knowing someone was close enough to shoot take a picture. Edited for poor choice of words. |
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Posted: 12/29/2012 6:56:28 AM EDT
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Chicago: 446 school age children shot so far this year with strongest gun laws in country – media silent
The cesspool known as Chicago probably has the toughest gun laws in the country, yet despite all the shootings, murders, and bloodshed, you never hear a peep about this from the corrupt state run media. In Chicago, there have been 446 school age children shot in leftist utopia run by Rahm Emanuel and that produced Obama, Jesse Jackson, Louis Farrakhan, etc. 62 school aged children have actually been killed by crazed nuts in Chicago so far this year with almost two weeks to go. So why isn’t this news worthy? Is it because it would embarrass those anti second amendment nuts who brag about Chicago’s tough gun laws? Is it because most of the kids who were shot and killed were minorities? Or is it because the corrupt media doesn’t want to show Chicago in a bad light? THE LIST OF MURDERED SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN 2012 18 YEARS OLD- 15 17 YEARS OLD- 16 16 YEARS OLD- 16 15 YEARS OLD- 6 14 YEARS OLD- 4 13 YEARS OLD- 2 12 YEARS OLD- 1 7 YEARS OLD- 1 6 YEARS OLD- 1 446 School Age Children Shot in Chicago so Far This Year THE LIST OF SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN SHOT IN 2012 18 year old- 110 17 year old- 99 16 year old- 89 15 year old- 62 14 year old- 39 13 year old- 21 12 year old- 10 11 year old- 2 10 year old- 3 9 year old- 1 7 year old- 3 6 year old- 2 5 year old- 1 4 year old- 1 3 year old- 1 1 year old- 2 |
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Posted: 12/29/2012 7:05:34 AM EDT
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"We knew publication of the database would be controversial, but we felt sharing as much information as we could about gun ownership in our area was important in the aftermath of the Newtown shootings," she said.
Non sequitur. |
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Posted: 12/29/2012 7:15:45 AM EDT
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Set up a site which lists advertisers that advertise with gannett. Stop purchasing things from them, encourage every single human being you know to do the same. There is a much more direct and faster way to do this: Buy a copy of the local rag that is doing this. Identify their advertisers (big and small) then contact those advertisers and ask to speak to the media buyers responsible for print media buys. Once you reach the media buyer (be it a mom and pop or a corporate HQ), inform them that you are organizing a boycott-and tell them why. Rinse and repeat until you contact every last advertiser. Gannets's ad revenue is in the shitter...hit them where it hurts and the bullshit will stop. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 12/29/2012 7:20:25 AM EDT
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How about some Craigslist adds stating my house is foreclosed I can't afford a moved some come get my shit? That way some poor pizza dude doesn't have to work so hard. Let the FSA do all the dirty work.
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Posted: 12/29/2012 7:22:07 AM EDT
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I wonder how much more personal info bloggers will be able to dig up on the newspaper staff? Anonymous will be watching what they throw in trash cans soon 
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Posted: 12/29/2012 7:25:01 AM EDT
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Chicago: 446 school age children shot so far this year with strongest gun laws in country – media silent The cesspool known as Chicago probably has the toughest gun laws in the country, yet despite all the shootings, murders, and bloodshed, you never hear a peep about this from the corrupt state run media. In Chicago, there have been 446 school age children shot in leftist utopia run by Rahm Emanuel and that produced Obama, Jesse Jackson, Louis Farrakhan, etc. 62 school aged children have actually been killed by crazed nuts in Chicago so far this year with almost two weeks to go. So why isn’t this news worthy? Is it because it would embarrass those anti second amendment nuts who brag about Chicago’s tough gun laws? Is it because most of the kids who were shot and killed were minorities? Or is it because the corrupt media doesn’t want to show Chicago in a bad light? THE LIST OF MURDERED SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN 2012 18 YEARS OLD- 15 17 YEARS OLD- 16 16 YEARS OLD- 16 15 YEARS OLD- 6 14 YEARS OLD- 4 13 YEARS OLD- 2 12 YEARS OLD- 1 7 YEARS OLD- 1 6 YEARS OLD- 1 446 School Age Children Shot in Chicago so Far This Year THE LIST OF SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN SHOT IN 2012 18 year old- 110 17 year old- 99 16 year old- 89 15 year old- 62 14 year old- 39 13 year old- 21 12 year old- 10 11 year old- 2 10 year old- 3 9 year old- 1 7 year old- 3 6 year old- 2 5 year old- 1 4 year old- 1 3 year old- 1 1 year old- 2 is there a web source you picked that up from or am i the 11th hundereds retard to ask |
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Posted: 12/29/2012 7:43:27 AM EDT
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Meanwhile, Sen. Greg Ball (R-N.Y.) announced plans to introduce legislation that would keep the names and addresses of gun owners private except to law enforcement.
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Posted: 12/29/2012 7:44:45 AM EDT
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I keep saying it, but it keeps falling on deaf ears.... If the media wants to keep attacking the 2nd, we need to start attacking the 1st.
Use their words and actions against them.
So counter with:
After the tragedy in Ct, 10,000 reporters SWARMED into that town. An ASSAULT of reporters, cameras, satellite trucks, generators, mics and cables to "GLAMORIZE" the tragedy and to make their own stories/news with made up facts. I for one find the media and anyone associated with it to be right at the level of rapist and child molesters. Simply taking of advantage of the situation! Sorry boring day and needed a small 1/10 rant! |
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Posted: 12/29/2012 7:45:33 AM EDT
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Wouldn't it be a shame if someone published the names, ages, and schools attended by all of the children of the publisher and everyone who works at the paper?
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Posted: 12/29/2012 7:46:48 AM EDT
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IBTSS ( SS has nothing to do with shit storm. ) |
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Posted: 12/29/2012 7:47:16 AM EDT
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Quoted: Wouldn't it be a shame if someone published the names, ages, and schools attended by all of the children of the publisher and everyone who works at the paper? Yes it would, so don't even mention it |
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Posted: 12/29/2012 7:49:53 AM EDT
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Wouldn't it be a shame if someone published the names, ages, and schools attended by all of the children of the publisher and everyone who works at the paper? Yea, let's terrorize the little kids. Your a fuckin Pussy. |
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Posted: 12/29/2012 7:53:45 AM EDT
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Time to start publishing even more personal information on Journal-News staff.
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Posted: 12/29/2012 7:59:44 AM EDT
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That paper's online edition has this opinion piece on it today: (author is a professor at Pace University Law School, and a former Manhattan prosecutor)
The outcry following the recent publication by The Journal News/LoHud.com of an interactive website featuring the names and addresses of licensed gun owners in Westchester and Rockland counties was predictable. This is not the first time that a newspaper has published the names of gun owners, but it comes at a time when gun owners are obviously sensitive to the issue, and probably defensive about owning guns. The furious reaction to the publication of public information that the public certainly has a right to know about recalls the old adage that if you throw a rock down a hole and hear a scream, you know you’ve hit something. Publishing the names of "johns,” scofflaws, and abortion doctors doesn’t stir much controversy. Then why the furor? Because the news report comes on the heels of the horrific massacre of 20 first-grade girls and boys and six school staff members in Newtown, Conn., by a deranged gunman, and probably causes gun owners to reflect on the carnage, the fact that there are nearly 300 million guns in America, the reasons that guns are so pervasive and accessible, and whether responsible gun owners — as most of these licensed gun owners surely are — should be doing more to address the problem of illegal gun ownership in the U.S. and its tragic consequences. Now that the right of people to own guns has been given constitutional status by the Supreme Court, one would hope that lawful gun owners would take a moment to reflect on the importance of this fundamental right, the costs of being afforded this right, and the responsibilities that go with this right. All rights have costs — the right to speak can invade someone else’s privacy; the rights of criminal defendants can result in unsuccessful prosecutions of guilty people; the rights of gays and lesbians have legal consequences that upset some people who find the conduct immoral. And the rights of gun owners might result in their public identification, as happened this week. Meaningful actionHowever,one would hope that gun owners, whether or not they are members of the National Rifle Association, might be able to transfer their outrage over the website to more meaningful actions. There are so many responsible and nonthreatening actions that they could be pursuing, and as gun owners their collective voice would be especially powerful in demanding that those lawmakers who are scared of and subservient to the NRA have the courage to support responsible legislation. One logical piece of legislation that should command the support of every rational citizen would be to prevent the easy purchase of guns by criminals and the mentally ill at gun shows, flea markets, and the Internet. Indeed, anyone can purchase on the Internet today and have delivered tomorrow the weapon that killed the children in Newtown, the moviegoers in Aurora, Colo., the volunteer firefighters in upstate New York, and the thousands of young black and Hispanic men killed each year in cities across the country. Gun homicides are the leading cause of death for young black males — they are eight times more likely to die a gun death than young white males, but it’s so routine it doesn’t even make the local news. Use the outrage to demand that lawmakers in Congress ban the kinds of "dangerous and unusual” weapons that Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia identified in the landmark Heller decision that could lawfully be regulated, and he gave as an example the M16 military rifle, the weapon that is the model for the fabulously popular and powerful Bushmaster AR-15, which was used in the recent mass shootings, and the detachable magazines that can hold so many rounds. We don’t know how many bullets were fired by the Newtown gunman, but we do know that several of the children were struck with 11 bullets in a matter of seconds. Use the outrage to persuade federal lawmakers to allow federal law enforcement agencies to establish a national computerized gun registry to track and record all gun transactions. A central database would make it so much easier for law enforcement officials to trace guns, keep them out of the hands of criminals, and better prevent gun crimes. The NRA opposes such a registry, claiming it poses a threat to the Second Amendment, and those lawmakers who quake before the NRA meekly go along. Romance with gunsAmerica’s romance with guns is longstanding, and not about to abate. Everybody seems to be sympathetic to gun violence, but offers no solutions, except maybe the questionable suggestion from the NRA that every "good guy” should be armed with a gun to stop the "bad guys.” Was George Zimmerman a good guy or a bad guy? Depends on your perspective, I guess. One point should be absolutely clear, however, even to those gun owners screaming about being identified. Fewer guns mean fewer fatalities. But don’t try to make that argument to the multibillion-dollar gun industry. There is plenty of bogus ridiculousness in the above, that's for sure. . . Comments are at the paper's Facebook page---and I believe you have to be a registered FB user to see or post there. . .I do not Facebook. . . |
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Posted: 12/29/2012 8:01:09 AM EDT
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How is it that someone up there hasnt handled this in a personal way with editor of that rag?
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Posted: 12/29/2012 8:06:03 AM EDT
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Quoted: Wouldn't it be a shame if someone published the names, ages, and schools attended by all of the children of the publisher and everyone who works at the paper?  No - that's just wrong. |
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Posted: 12/29/2012 8:10:36 AM EDT
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They did gun owners a favor...
Try to get a registration law passed after sh!t like this. There will be blood in the streets. |
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Posted: 12/29/2012 8:17:03 AM EDT
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I look at the other side of the coin: I would hate not to be on that list or not a dot on their map because they have also told every criminal which house in that county is a "gun free zone" and open to bugularize without firearm resistance......
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Posted: 12/29/2012 8:17:09 AM EDT
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If a concealed permit holder ends up shooting someone trying to break in to steal their gun.....Could they sue the newspaper? Also how did the newspaper get the info? Yes. They should definitely sue. The NRA should fund the lawsuit. |
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Posted: 12/29/2012 8:28:38 AM EDT
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If they want to amp it up the flow of free info, then those responsible should have no qualms when the shoe is on the other foot.
As a public service folks might want to start posting their info on windshields, bulletin boards, internet boards, welfare offices boards, homeless shelters, bars, night clubs, strip clubs, liquor stores, pawn shops, public housing areas....these people's names, photos, exact address with Google directions as to where these free info loving people live - all forms of legally obtained info. Some folks in the community may be curious to the fact that they probably have no guns in their homes, work schedules, what schools people in their households attend, their photos, hours most likely to be at home, phone numbers, household incomes, car descriptions, values, etc, etc etc... After all, they see no danger in posting personal and property info of other law abiding people for the world to see so they should have no problem at with good samaritans providing their info to the general public as matter of public knowledge. |
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Posted: 12/29/2012 8:30:48 AM EDT
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Wouldn't it be a shame if someone published the names, ages, and schools attended by all of the children of the publisher and everyone who works at the paper? No - that's just wrong.
Morally wrong? Like publishing the names and addresses of law abiding citizens in an effort to expose them and their families to potential criminals for doing nothing more than exercising a right? Or legally wrong - because if the information is publicly available its fair game. Personally, I have no problems with using their own tactics against them. If that info can be gained legally from the publuc domain, fuck them. They dont give a shit about placing gun owners and their families at risk by publishing public facts, they and their families should get the same in return. |
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Posted: 12/29/2012 8:34:32 AM EDT
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Guess they haven't gotten any of their Christmas gifts yet...
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Posted: 12/29/2012 8:36:51 AM EDT
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Why the fuck not? The first round generated tons of ad revenue.
Names and addresses of those responsible One way to have your opinion heard |
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Posted: 12/29/2012 8:42:16 AM EDT
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Wouldn't it be a shame if someone published the names, ages, and schools attended by all of the children of the publisher and everyone who works at the paper? Don't go down in the gutter with the scum. 
There are other ways more effective. 
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Posted: 12/29/2012 8:45:46 AM EDT
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An example of the 1st amendment not infringed. Now if only they would hold the second with such high regard. This... Now its time to break out the cameras and film them getting their fucking starbucks and riding the subway to work. Routes and all published. maybe the fatcat publishers and managers would appreciate some pictures of their families going about their daily lives; it's all public information, you know... |
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Posted: 12/29/2012 8:47:51 AM EDT
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I am really getting pissed at those leftist assholes who simply think anyone who owns a gun is a criminal, evil or a bad person. Their 'logic' goes no further than "guns are made to kill, thus if you have a gun, you want to kill people." A couple of years ago (i.e., prior to these recent shootings), I told a woman that with my bad back and breathing problems, I felt I couldn't defend myself without a gun if surprised by a home invader. So I keep a gun by my recliner and would shoot anyone who broke into my house. Her reply, in her exact words, "Sounds like you want to go on a rampage." |
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Posted: 12/29/2012 8:48:23 AM EDT
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These are the people to whom we should turn in promoting our beliefs in lieu of direct contact with the citizenry. Got it.
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Posted: 12/29/2012 8:57:57 AM EDT
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I keep saying it, but it keeps falling on deaf ears.... If the media wants to keep attacking the 2nd, we need to start attacking the 1st. Use their words and actions against them.
So counter with:
After the tragedy in Ct, 10,000 reporters SWARMED into that town. An ASSAULT of reporters, cameras, satellite trucks, generators, mics and cables to "GLAMORIZE" the tragedy and to make their own stories/news with made up facts.
I for one find the media and anyone associated with it to be right at the level of rapist and child molesters. Simply taking of advantage of the situation!
Sorry boring day and needed a small 1/10 rant!
Excellent point. 
I'd like to add that muskets were the height of firearm technology in their time. I expect the folks using muskets felt about them like we feel about our AR15s. |
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Posted: 12/29/2012 9:12:09 AM EDT
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And all this comes as a surprise? For those who did not stand up and take a stand against 'registration', licenses and other State mandated 'ownership' privileges this is only the first step in a further progression of firearm infringements. Again, "...shall not be infringed" comes to mind regarding this type of 'behavior' but the proposed next step is really going to hurt if pushed through ................ Rather than bitching about it, do something about it - push back - hard .................... This! If they can use the FOIA in NY, imagine if they were all registered (minus mine of course.) if you haven't written your Congressmen/Senators, TODAY is the day! |
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Posted: 12/29/2012 9:20:54 AM EDT
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I wonder if they are trying to provoke a response. 
Of course they are. They'll keep on pushing until they get a negative response and then use it to further promote their agenda. The more coverage this story gets, the more hits their website gets, the more money they make off advertising. It's pretty simple. |
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Posted: 12/29/2012 9:25:30 AM EDT
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They must have not gotten those magazine subscriptions yet.
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Posted: 12/29/2012 9:27:00 AM EDT
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SHE'S A WITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is what kind of approach this is. Bunch of bullshit and those fuckheads should be ashamed of themselves, but alas, they have no shame. When will it end?? |
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Posted: 12/29/2012 9:27:40 AM EDT
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SHE'S A WITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is what kind of approach this is. Bunch of bullshit and those fuckheads should be ashamed of themselves, but alas, they have no shame. When will it end?? When the NRA junk mail and pizzas start showing up. |
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Posted: 12/29/2012 9:28:53 AM EDT
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SHE'S A WITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is what kind of approach this is. Bunch of bullshit and those fuckheads should be ashamed of themselves, but alas, they have no shame. When will it end?? When the NRA junk mail and pizzas start showing up. I like your style, pal. 
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Posted: 12/29/2012 9:29:39 AM EDT
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I'll wait for "The Potential Prostitute Next Door"
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Posted: 12/29/2012 9:37:33 AM EDT
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An example of the 1st amendment not infringed. Now if only they would hold the second with such high regard. This... Now its time to break out the cameras and film them getting their fucking starbucks and riding the subway to work. Routes and all published. maybe the fatcat publishers and managers would appreciate some pictures of their families going about their daily lives; it's all public information, you know... Don't go down in the gutter with the scum. There are other ways more effective. I'm a firm believer in "eye for an eye". If you shoot at me, I'm shooting back. If you compromise my security, I WILL compromise yours. Look at it this way: If a rabid wolf attacks you, the only correct recourse is to attack back. The only way to stop an attack is TO ATTACK.. We are fighting ANIMALS. Illogical, irrational, dangerous animals. |
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Posted: 12/29/2012 9:40:19 AM EDT
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I'll wait for "The Potential Prostitute Next Door" The only prostitutes are us, our families and children if we do not push back HARD against actions like this. |
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Posted: 12/29/2012 9:50:38 AM EDT
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Quoted: Why the fuck not? The first round generated tons of ad revenue. Names and addresses of those responsible One way to have your opinion heard I'm thinking of calling these people and saying. "hello, is *insert name of person here* there? "oh, well, I was just calling to talk about an article I saw publishing the addresses of gun owners. As an armchair lawyer, I think this is dangerous, and that if any of these people are burglarized and their guns subsequently used in crimes, I feel that you and your newspaper should be held legally accountable as accomplices to the crime. " |
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Posted: 12/29/2012 9:53:47 AM EDT
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maybe the fatcat publishers and managers would appreciate some pictures of their families going about their daily lives; it's all public information, you know... I'm a firm believer in "eye for an eye". If you shoot at me, I'm shooting back. If you compromise my security, I WILL compromise yours. Look at it this way: If a rabid wolf attacks you, the only correct recourse is to attack back. The only way to stop an attack is TO ATTACK.. We are fighting ANIMALS. Illogical, irrational, dangerous animals. [/quote] You publish pictures of her, her children, their school, their bus, the time they leave, the time they get home, afterschool activities, when their spouse leaves for work, where he works, when he works, what he does. You post pictures of the kids on the NAMBLA website. Every single little thing that you can post that will endanger them and their loved ones. After they get scared and buy a gun you add their name to the list. |
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Posted: 12/29/2012 9:56:00 AM EDT
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Someone needs to go Henry Bowman on these asshats.
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