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Posted: 1/26/2014 5:51:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/26/2014 5:52:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So here's a logic question, then: If a person has had success with a procedure in the past, why would they seek to overhaul the procedure for no appreciable gain if the end-result is to be the same? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: It sounds like you are looking for the kind of people who will not be applying for the kind of jobs you have. This is not my first rodeo. Logic based questions on job applications have proved their value to me before in the same industry. Perhaps your expectations or perception of a server's level of common sense is a little on the derogatory side? So here's a logic question, then: If a person has had success with a procedure in the past, why would they seek to overhaul the procedure for no appreciable gain if the end-result is to be the same? Go back and read original post.
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Posted: 1/26/2014 5:53:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What's the answer? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You walk into the pub and see this: 1) two angry male customers squaring off yelling in each other's faces about to mix it up 2) full pitcher of beer spilled on the tile floor at the front door. 3) phone is ringing at bar 4) bartender cut his hand and is bleeding Prioritize these in the order in which you'd deal with them and state what you would do for each and why. What's the answer? If you're the owner/manager, that's probably something you should know what to do first, and why. |
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Posted: 1/26/2014 5:54:31 PM EDT
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Go back and read original post. I did. It still does not answer the question. They will either be logical and get the answer, or they won't and you won't hire them. If your hold-up is "well those questions are played out and they'll know the answer," you're sweating it too much. I'm in a profession where logic is paramount and logic questions are bandied around interviews a lot and I haven't seen those before. It's extremely unlikely that the kinds of people applying for the jobs you're offering at the likely payscale you're offering will have heard these questions before. So again: why waste time and resources coming up with something that will not change your desired outcome? |
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Posted: 1/26/2014 5:56:18 PM EDT
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You walk into the pub and see this: 1) two angry male customers squaring off yelling in each other's faces about to mix it up 2) full pitcher of beer spilled on the tile floor at the front door. 3) phone is ringing at bar 4) bartender cut his hand and is bleeding Prioritize these in the order in which you'd deal with them and state what you would do for each and why. What's the answer? Pick up the phone and two towels. As you walk towards the bloodied worker hang up on the person calling, dial 911 and ask for police and an ambulance. Conduct a drive-by drop of a towel over the beer, yell at the two douche bags that the cops are on their way... and hand the bloodied worker the other to wrap his hand. The end. |
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Posted: 1/26/2014 6:04:07 PM EDT
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Don't try to reinvent the wheel on this one. You have enough problems. Ask a few customer service scenarios, make sure they are positive people and will be advocates and future managers as your business grows. Wheel is not being reinvented. Customer service and processes can be taught. Logic cannot. Yes it can. I didn't want to point out it is an actual high school/college course |
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Posted: 1/26/2014 6:05:09 PM EDT
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Trust me you are, from a person who has helped launch a couple of successful places, as well as a few other major business ventures  .
Attitude, energy, and willingness to learn and become better cannot be taught. GM for our cleaning company was paid almost 200k last year and she has a ninth grade education, but an insatiable desire to make herself better and literally, you could burn her house down and she would make you think she is having the best day ever. Asking a few common sense scenario based questions, I believe is what you are looking for. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Don't try to reinvent the wheel on this one. You have enough problems. Ask a few customer service scenarios, make sure they are positive people and will be advocates and future managers as your business grows. Wheel is not being reinvented. Customer service and processes can be taught. Logic cannot. Trust me you are, from a person who has helped launch a couple of successful places, as well as a few other major business ventures .
Attitude, energy, and willingness to learn and become better cannot be taught. GM for our cleaning company was paid almost 200k last year and she has a ninth grade education, but an insatiable desire to make herself better and literally, you could burn her house down and she would make you think she is having the best day ever. Asking a few common sense scenario based questions, I believe is what you are looking for. This guy knows what he's talking about. It's a bar, stop being stubborn and stop over thinking it. |
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Posted: 1/26/2014 6:05:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck it, I am semi retired and can do whatever I want at 31 whenever I want, just passed 310 employees, but what the fuck do I know about this stuff. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Don't try to reinvent the wheel on this one. You have enough problems. Ask a few customer service scenarios, make sure they are positive people and will be advocates and future managers as your business grows. Wheel is not being reinvented. Customer service and processes can be taught. Logic cannot. Trust me you are, from a person who has helped launch a couple of successful places, as well as a few other major business ventures . Attitude, energy, and willingness to learn and become better cannot be taught. GM for our cleaning company was paid almost 200k last year and she has a ninth grade education, but an insatiable desire to make herself better and literally, you could burn her house down and she would make you think she is having the best day ever. Asking a few common sense scenario based questions, I believe is what you are looking for. I've already told you, that's not what I'm looking for. Fuck it, I am semi retired and can do whatever I want at 31 whenever I want, just passed 310 employees, but what the fuck do I know about this stuff. |
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Posted: 1/26/2014 6:07:16 PM EDT
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Logic for a cook in a brew pub?
Did you ever work in such a place? Here are some bar/restaurant kitchen logic problems: You notice that the busboy's work quality has deteriorated in the last few weeks. You suspect that he is abusing drugs. What should you do? A) Tell the manager. B) Ignore it. C) Wait until he's really stoned and make him take out a leaky trash bag so you can laugh at him. D) Steal his pot. The waitress gives you a fifty dollar bill and tells you that a customer said you made the best meal he's ever had, so it's a tip. You should: A) Thank the customer and offer to share the tip with the waitress and the bartender. B) Spend it on liquor. C) Spend it on liquor and pot. D) You already spent your paycheck on liquor and pot, so you lose the fifty dollar bill and blame it on Mexicans. You do not have enough money to pay your rent because you spent your paychecks on liquor and pot. What is the best way to deal with this problem? A) Stop spending all your paychecks on liquor and pot. B) Get a second job so you can afford to buy liquor and pot. C) Borrow some money from your coworkers. D) Steal a pile of hamburgers and sell them in your new restaurant in your section eight apartment. The bartender tells you that customers are complaining because their food is undercooked. What should you do? A) Cook their food properly. B) Blame someone else. C) Turn the oven up to five hundred and fifty degrees and see if those ungrateful assholes bitch about it now. D) Chase the bartender around a table with a meat cleaver until the police come. Anyone who answered all As lied to you about his experience. Anyone who answered all Ds is an experienced cook and is exactly what you're going to get.
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Posted: 1/26/2014 6:07:33 PM EDT
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Do you recline your seat on an airplane?
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Posted: 1/26/2014 6:11:03 PM EDT
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Why are manhole covers round? From Wikipedia: The question of why manhole covers are typically round (in some countries) was made famous by Microsoft when they began asking it as a job interview question. Originally meant as a psychological assessment of how one approaches a question with more than one correct answer, the problem has produced a number of alternate explanations, from the tautological ("Manhole covers are round because manholes are round.") to the philosophical. Reasons for the shape include:
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Posted: 1/26/2014 6:13:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why are manhole covers round? From Wikipedia: The question of why manhole covers are typically round (in some countries) was made famous by Microsoft when they began asking it as a job interview question. Originally meant as a psychological assessment of how one approaches a question with more than one correct answer, the problem has produced a number of alternate explanations, from the tautological ("Manhole covers are round because manholes are round.") to the philosophical. Reasons for the shape include:
That was actually one we used previously.
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Posted: 1/26/2014 6:13:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you recline your seat on an airplane? Why or why not? Epic.
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Posted: 1/26/2014 6:17:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well you piqued my interest, but maybe this isn't the appropriate thread to ask what you do. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Fuck it, I am semi retired and can do whatever I want at 31 whenever I want, just passed 310 employees, but what the fuck do I know about this stuff. Appropriate a thread as any. I'm curious as well. |
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Posted: 1/26/2014 6:19:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why are manhole covers round? From Wikipedia: The question of why manhole covers are typically round (in some countries) was made famous by Microsoft when they began asking it as a job interview question. Originally meant as a psychological assessment of how one approaches a question with more than one correct answer, the problem has produced a number of alternate explanations, from the tautological ("Manhole covers are round because manholes are round.") to the philosophical. Reasons for the shape include:
Because the manholes they cover are round. |
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Posted: 1/26/2014 6:21:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I didn't want to point out it is an actual high school/college course Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Don't try to reinvent the wheel on this one. You have enough problems. Ask a few customer service scenarios, make sure they are positive people and will be advocates and future managers as your business grows. Wheel is not being reinvented. Customer service and processes can be taught. Logic cannot. Yes it can. I didn't want to point out it is an actual high school/college course As an individual that has taken Informal Logic I can say that there is a distinct difference between "common sense logic" in the sense of performing a set of tasks in a logical order and "logic" as it pertains to informal logic. |
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Posted: 1/26/2014 6:22:47 PM EDT
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So, where's this joint gonna be located? |
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Posted: 1/26/2014 6:24:30 PM EDT
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There are 3 lights in an adjacent room and 3 light switches in your current room. You need to determine which switch controls which light but once you leave the room you cannot return. How do you do it?
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Posted: 1/26/2014 6:25:31 PM EDT
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Why are manhole covers round?
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Posted: 1/26/2014 6:25:53 PM EDT
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You walk into the pub and see this: 1) two angry male customers squaring off yelling in each other's faces about to mix it up 2) full pitcher of beer spilled on the tile floor at the front door. 3) phone is ringing at bar 4) bartender cut his hand and is bleeding Prioritize these in the order in which you'd deal with them and state what you would do for each and why. kinda curious about this one. There is no correct answer. The question is about what you do and why. My answer would be to check on the injured bartender first as his injuries could be life threatening or need immediate attention. Make sure he’s not losing a dangerous amount of blood, apply basic first aid, and arrange to get him medical care. Then you take steps to deal with the altercation, if possible. “Gentlemen, please calm down or take your quarrel off of the property. Otherwise, I will have to call the police.” Then you get the spilled beer cleaned up since that is a hazard to customers. Getting the phone is last because a missed call is nowhere near as bad as the possible consequences of the other three things. |
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Posted: 1/26/2014 6:25:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are 3 lights in an adjacent room and 3 light switches in your current room. You need to determine which switch controls which light but once you leave the room you cannot return. How do you do it? Cut a hole in the wall and peek through whilst flipping the switches on and off. |
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Posted: 1/26/2014 6:26:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is no correct answer. The question is about what you do and why. My answer would be to check on the injured bartender first as his injuries could be life threatening or need immediate attention. Make sure he’s not losing a dangerous amount of blood, apply basic first aid, and arrange to get him medical care. Then you take steps to deal with the altercation, if possible. "Gentlemen, please calm down or take your quarrel off of the property. Otherwise, I will have to call the police.” Then you get the spilled beer cleaned up since that is a hazard to customers. Getting the phone is last because a missed call is nowhere near as bad as the possible consequences of the other three things. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: You walk into the pub and see this: 1) two angry male customers squaring off yelling in each other's faces about to mix it up 2) full pitcher of beer spilled on the tile floor at the front door. 3) phone is ringing at bar 4) bartender cut his hand and is bleeding Prioritize these in the order in which you'd deal with them and state what you would do for each and why. kinda curious about this one. There is no correct answer. The question is about what you do and why. My answer would be to check on the injured bartender first as his injuries could be life threatening or need immediate attention. Make sure he’s not losing a dangerous amount of blood, apply basic first aid, and arrange to get him medical care. Then you take steps to deal with the altercation, if possible. "Gentlemen, please calm down or take your quarrel off of the property. Otherwise, I will have to call the police.” Then you get the spilled beer cleaned up since that is a hazard to customers. Getting the phone is last because a missed call is nowhere near as bad as the possible consequences of the other three things. This is incorrect, my mom taught me that NOTHING is allowed to happen during a phone conversation, so as long as you are on the phone everything is all good. |
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Posted: 1/26/2014 6:28:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you recline your seat on an airplane? Why or why not? |
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Posted: 1/26/2014 6:30:25 PM EDT
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Cut a hole in the wall and peek through whilst flipping the switches on and off. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There are 3 lights in an adjacent room and 3 light switches in your current room. You need to determine which switch controls which light but once you leave the room you cannot return. How do you do it? Cut a hole in the wall and peek through whilst flipping the switches on and off. Wrong. Well in the sense of this thread, not hired. |
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Posted: 1/26/2014 6:31:16 PM EDT
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Appropriate a thread as any. I'm curious as well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Fuck it, I am semi retired and can do whatever I want at 31 whenever I want, just passed 310 employees, but what the fuck do I know about this stuff. Appropriate a thread as any. I'm curious as well. Well sent him a pm lol. Basically I have been involved in logistics, food delivery, marketing, real estate, cleaning, etc. I believe that with a few core competences a business can flourish in any field. Almost all of the fields I have ventured into my first few employees and/or partners knew how to operate within the field better than I did! but I knew what it took to run a business if that makes sense. My core tenants have always been take care of your customers and your employees, profits will follow. The business owner/management side comes with understanding finance, core competency, target market, etc. I see too many people good at what they do fail miserably on the business side of things because they forget the basics. Eta: I understand you are just trying to get the best employees, from experience I just advocate finding people with a customer oriented personality and attitude easier to train and to help a business grow than any other type of employee which is why I used the example of my "uneducated General Manager" before. |
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Posted: 1/26/2014 6:32:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Logic for a cook in a brew pub? Did you ever work in such a place? Here are some bar/restaurant kitchen logic problems: You notice that the busboy's work quality has deteriorated in the last few weeks. You suspect that he is abusing drugs. What should you do? A) Tell the manager. B) Ignore it. C) Wait until he's really stoned and make him take out a leaky trash bag so you can laugh at him. D) Steal his pot. The waitress gives you a fifty dollar bill and tells you that a customer said you made the best meal he's ever had, so it's a tip. You should: A) Thank the customer and offer to share the tip with the waitress and the bartender. B) Spend it on liquor. C) Spend it on liquor and pot. D) You already spent your paycheck on liquor and pot, so you lose the fifty dollar bill and blame it on Mexicans. You do not have enough money to pay your rent because you spent your paychecks on liquor and pot. What is the best way to deal with this problem? A) Stop spending all your paychecks on liquor and pot. B) Get a second job so you can afford to buy liquor and pot. C) Borrow some money from your coworkers. D) Steal a pile of hamburgers and sell them in your new restaurant in your section eight apartment. The bartender tells you that customers are complaining because their food is undercooked. What should you do? A) Cook their food properly. B) Blame someone else. C) Turn the oven up to five hundred and fifty degrees and see if those ungrateful assholes bitch about it now. D) Chase the bartender around a table with a meat cleaver until the police come. Anyone who answered all As lied to you about his experience. Anyone who answered all Ds is an experienced cook and is exactly what you're going to get. I suppose it might be a little obscure, to those who've never worked in a restaurant, of why a little common sense/logic is critical in the restaurant biz. There seems to be quite a few people in this thread that equate common sense to genius which is just not the case. In the middle of rush when a server has 8 things going on simultaneously or a line cook's printer is spewing out orders incessantly, one quickly realizes that there are two types of people in this biz. Those that are constantly prioritizing, consolidating, and expediting their workload and those that just drown because they do not know how to logically solve the problem that is their workload. IMO, efficiency is the purest form of common sense. |
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Posted: 1/26/2014 6:32:41 PM EDT
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you have an enclosed room. you have a refrigerator running, with the door open. does the room get warmer or cooler? neither. a fridge draws heat away from whats inside. having the door open wont affect the outside |
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Posted: 1/26/2014 6:36:38 PM EDT
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I'm about ready to hire some servers and cooks for a brewpub that I'm opening. I'm creating my own job application for applicants to come fill out at our place. I only have room for 4-5 employees to start and want to pick the ones with the best sense of logic. All the ones I know seem to be played out like the tiger/goat/lettuce dilemma, three prisoners buried with different color hats, two brothers at a fork in the road, etc. Da fuck?  What is this, a brewpub for Engineers?
You could give them a little logic problem related to beer or something. "Regular A arrives every weeknight and has a pint of IPA. Regular B comes every Friday and has three pints of stout. Regular C attends three or four nights a week and will drink anything but stout..." But really? Logic for servers at a bar? I'd think that would not be super high on the list of required skills... etc. I can tell you've never worked in a restaurant. I agree with the other guy. My dad, before he passed, retired 1 star from the airforce. he was on the program dev. team that developed Navstar( which, to the noobs..is the great great great grandfather of gps) ..among other things. he was full of logic. but he couldnt write simple paragraph to save his life. i agree with the person who suggested make it work themed.. |
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Posted: 1/26/2014 6:38:14 PM EDT
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On the beer spill/cut bartender/fight/phone question, I'd get the bartender supplies to pressure the wound, clean the spill while yelling at the 2 fucktards who are about to have a bro down, and ignore the phone. They can call back.
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Posted: 1/26/2014 6:38:36 PM EDT
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I suppose it might be a little obscure, to those who've never worked in a restaurant, of why a little common sense/logic is critical in the restaurant biz. There seems to be quite a few people in this thread that equate common sense to genius which is just not the case. In the middle of rush when a server has 8 things going on simultaneously or a line cook's printer is spewing out orders incessantly, one quickly realizes that there are two types of people in this biz. Those that are constantly prioritizing, consolidating, and expediting their workload and those that just drown because they do not know how to logically solve the problem that is their workload. IMO, efficiency is the purest form of common sense. Common sense and logic are different beasts. Had you asked for common sense questions, the answers would have been much different. Instead, you asked for logic questions, which are a different beast altogether. |
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Posted: 1/26/2014 6:40:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Common sense and logic are different beasts. Had you asked for common sense questions, the answers would have been much different. Instead, you asked for logic questions, which are a different beast altogether. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I suppose it might be a little obscure, to those who've never worked in a restaurant, of why a little common sense/logic is critical in the restaurant biz. There seems to be quite a few people in this thread that equate common sense to genius which is just not the case. In the middle of rush when a server has 8 things going on simultaneously or a line cook's printer is spewing out orders incessantly, one quickly realizes that there are two types of people in this biz. Those that are constantly prioritizing, consolidating, and expediting their workload and those that just drown because they do not know how to logically solve the problem that is their workload. IMO, efficiency is the purest form of common sense. Common sense and logic are different beasts. Had you asked for common sense questions, the answers would have been much different. Instead, you asked for logic questions, which are a different beast altogether. I think that you think logic only has one meaning...
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Posted: 1/26/2014 6:43:00 PM EDT
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There are 3 lights in an adjacent room and 3 light switches in your current room. You need to determine which switch controls which light but once you leave the room you cannot return. How do you do it? Cut a hole in the wall and peek through whilst flipping the switches on and off. flip one switch..leave it on 3 mins. flip another switch, leave it on for 30 secs dont flip the third. touch the bulbs..hotest one is #1 warm is 2 cold is 3 thats an old one |
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Posted: 1/26/2014 6:49:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well sent him a pm lol. Basically I have been involved in logistics, food delivery, marketing, real estate, cleaning, etc. I believe that with a few core competences a business can flourish in any field. Almost all of the fields I have ventured into my first few employees and/or partners knew how to operate within the field better than I did! but I knew what it took to run a business if that makes sense. My core tenants have always been take care of your customers and your employees, profits will follow. The business owner/management side comes with understanding finance, core competency, target market, etc. I see too many people good at what they do fail miserably on the business side of things because they forget the basics. Eta: I understand you are just trying to get the best employees, from experience I just advocate finding people with a customer oriented personality and attitude easier to train and to help a business grow than any other type of employee which is why I used the example of my "uneducated General Manager" before. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Fuck it, I am semi retired and can do whatever I want at 31 whenever I want, just passed 310 employees, but what the fuck do I know about this stuff. Appropriate a thread as any. I'm curious as well. Well sent him a pm lol. Basically I have been involved in logistics, food delivery, marketing, real estate, cleaning, etc. I believe that with a few core competences a business can flourish in any field. Almost all of the fields I have ventured into my first few employees and/or partners knew how to operate within the field better than I did! but I knew what it took to run a business if that makes sense. My core tenants have always been take care of your customers and your employees, profits will follow. The business owner/management side comes with understanding finance, core competency, target market, etc. I see too many people good at what they do fail miserably on the business side of things because they forget the basics. Eta: I understand you are just trying to get the best employees, from experience I just advocate finding people with a customer oriented personality and attitude easier to train and to help a business grow than any other type of employee which is why I used the example of my "uneducated General Manager" before. I agree with everything you are saying. Our employment strategies are nearly the same, except mine is that if you take care of your employees, your customers will be taken care of. |
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Posted: 1/26/2014 6:50:49 PM EDT
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There are 3 lights in an adjacent room and 3 light switches in your current room. You need to determine which switch controls which light but once you leave the room you cannot return. How do you do it? Cut a hole in the wall and peek through whilst flipping the switches on and off. flip one switch..leave it on 3 mins. flip another switch, leave it on for 30 secs dont flip the third. touch the bulbs..hotest one is #1 warm is 2 cold is 3 thats an old one Winner. I'd never heard it before I got asked that in an interview once. |
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Posted: 1/26/2014 6:51:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: flip one switch..leave it on 3 mins. flip another switch, leave it on for 30 secs dont flip the third. touch the bulbs..hotest one is #1 warm is 2 cold is 3 thats an old one Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: There are 3 lights in an adjacent room and 3 light switches in your current room. You need to determine which switch controls which light but once you leave the room you cannot return. How do you do it? Cut a hole in the wall and peek through whilst flipping the switches on and off. flip one switch..leave it on 3 mins. flip another switch, leave it on for 30 secs dont flip the third. touch the bulbs..hotest one is #1 warm is 2 cold is 3 thats an old one That's a good one. I probably wouldn't have gotten it.
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Posted: 1/26/2014 6:52:19 PM EDT
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If you're looking for some female servers, have her face the wall and stand next to it. If her boobs touch the wall before her toes, she's got the job. What if her gut touches at the same time as her boobs? Then she's pregnant |
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Posted: 1/26/2014 7:13:28 PM EDT
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Winner. I'd never heard it before I got asked that in an interview once. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There are 3 lights in an adjacent room and 3 light switches in your current room. You need to determine which switch controls which light but once you leave the room you cannot return. How do you do it? Cut a hole in the wall and peek through whilst flipping the switches on and off. flip one switch..leave it on 3 mins. flip another switch, leave it on for 30 secs dont flip the third. touch the bulbs..hotest one is #1 warm is 2 cold is 3 thats an old one Winner. I'd never heard it before I got asked that in an interview once. yeah not sure when i hear the answer. actually may have been a riddle book a number of years ago. its a good one |
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Posted: 1/26/2014 7:14:34 PM EDT
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That's a good one. I probably wouldn't have gotten it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There are 3 lights in an adjacent room and 3 light switches in your current room. You need to determine which switch controls which light but once you leave the room you cannot return. How do you do it? Cut a hole in the wall and peek through whilst flipping the switches on and off. flip one switch..leave it on 3 mins. flip another switch, leave it on for 30 secs dont flip the third. touch the bulbs..hotest one is #1 warm is 2 cold is 3 thats an old one That's a good one. I probably wouldn't have gotten it. sooooo am i hired? ;) |
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Posted: 1/26/2014 7:15:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: sooooo am i hired? ;) Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: There are 3 lights in an adjacent room and 3 light switches in your current room. You need to determine which switch controls which light but once you leave the room you cannot return. How do you do it? Cut a hole in the wall and peek through whilst flipping the switches on and off. flip one switch..leave it on 3 mins. flip another switch, leave it on for 30 secs dont flip the third. touch the bulbs..hotest one is #1 warm is 2 cold is 3 thats an old one That's a good one. I probably wouldn't have gotten it. sooooo am i hired? ;) Turn around and step towards the wall... |
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Posted: 1/26/2014 7:23:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Who did you vote for? I really wish I could.
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Posted: 1/26/2014 7:26:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: neither. a fridge draws heat away from whats inside. having the door open wont affect the outside Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: you have an enclosed room. you have a refrigerator running, with the door open. does the room get warmer or cooler? neither. a fridge draws heat away from whats inside. having the door open wont affect the outside LOL. no |
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Posted: 1/26/2014 7:28:26 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: sooooo am i hired? ;) Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: There are 3 lights in an adjacent room and 3 light switches in your current room. You need to determine which switch controls which light but once you leave the room you cannot return. How do you do it? Cut a hole in the wall and peek through whilst flipping the switches on and off. flip one switch..leave it on 3 mins. flip another switch, leave it on for 30 secs dont flip the third. touch the bulbs..hotest one is #1 warm is 2 cold is 3 thats an old one That's a good one. I probably wouldn't have gotten it. sooooo am i hired? ;) You butchered the refrigerator question. |
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Posted: 1/26/2014 7:28:26 PM EDT
[#43]
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kinda curious about this one. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You walk into the pub and see this: 1) two angry male customers squaring off yelling in each other's faces about to mix it up 2) full pitcher of beer spilled on the tile floor at the front door. 3) phone is ringing at bar 4) bartender cut his hand and is bleeding Prioritize these in the order in which you'd deal with them and state what you would do for each and why. kinda curious about this one. Meh I'll bite. First things first cover my ass at the front door. Assign an employee to stand over the spill and keep any one from coming or going until the spill has been cleaned. Secondly attended to the two patrons. Find a way to resolve the issue. And lasty kindy ask the bartender in a caulm but stern voice what the fuck were they thinking followed by some useful advise such as "pay the fuck attention next time" then once everything was under control I'd sit down and have a Coke. Did I get the job? 
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Posted: 1/26/2014 7:41:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can you count change without a register/calculator? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm about ready to hire some servers and cooks for a brewpub that I'm opening. I'm creating my own job application for applicants to come fill out at our place. I only have room for 4-5 employees to start and want to pick the ones with the best sense of logic. All the ones I know seem to be played out like the tiger/goat/lettuce dilemma, three prisoners buried with different color hats, two brothers at a fork in the road, etc. Can you count change without a register/calculator? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile A couple opportunities to demonstrate the ability to count change back would be in order. Set a drawer in front of them, give them a sales price and a couple bills in tender. Make them count your change back without using a calculator. Most people can't start at the sales price and count up to the tender amount. Be damn careful what you ask! There are things that are illegal to ask, like "Are you married?" If you aren't current on what is taboo to ask...find out before you start interviewing people. I always have a 3rd person sit in on an interview as a witness that I did nothing untoward. It's amazing the number of scammers and lawsuit hunters there are these days. Good luck with your endeavor.  |
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Posted: 1/26/2014 7:46:14 PM EDT
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I can tell you've never worked in a restaurant. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm about ready to hire some servers and cooks for a brewpub that I'm opening. I'm creating my own job application for applicants to come fill out at our place. I only have room for 4-5 employees to start and want to pick the ones with the best sense of logic. All the ones I know seem to be played out like the tiger/goat/lettuce dilemma, three prisoners buried with different color hats, two brothers at a fork in the road, etc. Da fuck? What is this, a brewpub for Engineers?
You could give them a little logic problem related to beer or something. "Regular A arrives every weeknight and has a pint of IPA. Regular B comes every Friday and has three pints of stout. Regular C attends three or four nights a week and will drink anything but stout..." But really? Logic for servers at a bar? I'd think that would not be super high on the list of required skills... etc. I can tell you've never worked in a restaurant. The situation explained in OP is DERP |
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Posted: 1/26/2014 7:52:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your hiring cooks and servers, why the big hard on for logical geniuses? Because he's convinced himself that this is some magical criteria that sorts the good employees from the bad ones. |
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Posted: 1/26/2014 7:56:30 PM EDT
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you have an enclosed room. you have a refrigerator running, with the door open. does the room get warmer or cooler? Meh, too easy. you would be surprised. 
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Posted: 1/26/2014 7:57:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The situation explained in OP is DERP Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm about ready to hire some servers and cooks for a brewpub that I'm opening. I'm creating my own job application for applicants to come fill out at our place. I only have room for 4-5 employees to start and want to pick the ones with the best sense of logic. All the ones I know seem to be played out like the tiger/goat/lettuce dilemma, three prisoners buried with different color hats, two brothers at a fork in the road, etc. Da fuck? What is this, a brewpub for Engineers?You could give them a little logic problem related to beer or something. "Regular A arrives every weeknight and has a pint of IPA. Regular B comes every Friday and has three pints of stout. Regular C attends three or four nights a week and will drink anything but stout..." But really? Logic for servers at a bar? I'd think that would not be super high on the list of required skills... etc. I can tell you've never worked in a restaurant. The situation explained in OP is DERP Actually, there are two basic types of employees. Those that learn by 'rote' and repitition, and those that learn by reason. I would much rather have employees who have the ability to process tasking via cognitive deduction and who understand why they are doing what they are doing....as opposed to people who only know one way to perform a task "because that's how they were taught." You really believe the OP is wrong for searching out employees with the ability to think - over just hiring robots? |
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Posted: 1/26/2014 7:58:05 PM EDT
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You walk into the pub and see this: 1) two angry male customers squaring off yelling in each other's faces about to mix it up 2) full pitcher of beer spilled on the tile floor at the front door. 3) phone is ringing at bar 4) bartender cut his hand and is bleeding Prioritize these in the order in which you'd deal with them and state what you would do for each and why. Toss bartender a towel. He wraps his hand with it, and answers the phone, gripping it tightly to apply pressure to his cut. I then yell at the two patrons " Which one of you dumbasses committed all this alcohol abuse?" While pointing at the spilled beer. Patrons immediately go into defensive postures, and return to their friends, embarassed that the rest of teh bar thinks they spilled an entire pitcher. 
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Posted: 1/26/2014 7:58:24 PM EDT
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Here you go: I think you know the answer to that one...
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