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Link Posted: 9/5/2013 12:59:13 PM EDT
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Elite QB's don't fuck up in the playoffs.  They win Superbowls by beating the other team.

 
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That was like 6 years ago bro.  And Romo had only been a starter for half a season.  Which is why he was playing special teams.



 
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roethlisberger, 2 rings and cant even make your poll?



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Link Posted: 9/5/2013 1:01:13 PM EDT
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Why is Vick on this list? It must be as a joke.

Also, Stafford could emerge as a tier 2 someday. Not an elite quarterback though.
Link Posted: 9/5/2013 1:01:35 PM EDT
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I don't think anybody is saying Romo is elite...not yet anyway. I'm a Cowboy fan and I don't think he's elite, but he's no slouch. There's only 4 QB's i'd take over him. Peyton, Brees, Rodgers, and Brady, and ONLY if they had a good Oline. All four of those fuckers would be dead behind the Cowboys Oline of the last 5 years.
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Every time Tony gets sacked, the exuberant joy and excitement feels like the first time I got to second base.

I love it.
Link Posted: 9/5/2013 1:01:50 PM EDT
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In baseball, that's a whiff.
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Fuck that rapist.
Link Posted: 9/5/2013 1:03:00 PM EDT
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Elite QB's don't fuck up in the playoffs.  They win Superbowls by beating the other team.
 
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The only reason he's not is because he's a gunslinger who takes chances when the rest of his team doesn't perform. He's a tremendous talent with no line and the dumbest receivers in the business.  About 25 teams in the league would trade their starter for Romo in a heartbeat.

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I am no Cowgirls fan.  But Romo has taken more than his fair share of blame for the problems in Dallas.  It stems back to the fumbled field goal snap in the playoffs.
 

Elite QB's don't fuck up in the playoffs.  They win Superbowls by beating the other team.
 

Ding.

If it weren't for the two appearances and one ring, Brent Favre would be in the second or third tier.  Favre's last playoff game was almost a recap of his whole career (and interestingly, Romo grew up idolizing Favre).  Romo isn't even close to having the arm or audacity that Favre did, however.

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Only those with a Superbowl win are "elite" (sorry Dan Marino fans).

 
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Why not?  I voted for Flacco in the poll.  
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Fuck that rapist.
Forgot about that, how much time did he do for that?? Ohhh yea he wasnt even charged





 
Link Posted: 9/5/2013 1:05:59 PM EDT
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Forgot about that, how much time did he do for that?? Ohhh yea he wasnt even charged
 
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Fuck that rapist.
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Dont give A flying fuck if he was not charged.  He did it.  OJ was not charged either.  Does not mean shit.
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Dont give A flying fuck if he was not charged.  He did it.  OJ was not charged either.  Does not mean shit.
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Fuck that rapist.
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Dont give A flying fuck if he was not charged.  He did it.  OJ was not charged either.  Does not mean shit.
OJ wasnt Charged???  I coulda swore his court case was on every station for a couple months. that was a while ago though, might be wrong.





 
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OJ wasnt Charged???
 
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Dont give A flying fuck if he was not charged.  He did it.  OJ was not charged either.  Does not mean shit.
OJ wasnt Charged???
 

Fuck the confused faced.  You know what I mean.
Link Posted: 9/5/2013 1:09:54 PM EDT
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3 hours and 21 minutes to kickoff!

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Link Posted: 9/5/2013 1:09:59 PM EDT
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Shane Falco.
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Fuck that rapist.
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Dont give A flying fuck if he was not charged.  He did it.  OJ was not charged either.  Does not mean shit.
OJ wasnt Charged???


 



Fuck the confused faced.  You know what I mean.
Not sure I do, comparing OJ to Ben is confusing the shit outta me. Charge vs Conviction Im lost




 
 
Link Posted: 9/5/2013 1:11:00 PM EDT
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Romo elite lol riiiight.
Link Posted: 9/5/2013 1:11:03 PM EDT
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Not to mention the fact that RO type QBs are going to get hit a lot more this season.His next tattoo might be a life sized Clay Mathews shaped bruise.
Link Posted: 9/5/2013 1:13:11 PM EDT
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Whose Elite?  I determine that if they are Hall of Fame Bound.

Brady - Superbowls and NFL records- Yup
Breez- Superbowl and NFL records- Yup
P.Manning- Superbowl and NFL records- Yup
E. Manning- 2 Superbowls- Yup
B.Rothlisburger - 2 Superbowls- Yup

Robert Griffin III- If he can do what he did last year for 10+ years with a superbowl, maybe.

Aaron Rodgers- 1 hit wonder- nope
Tony Romo-   ...Jerry Jones  
M.Vick- can still be dangerous, but no Hall of Fame Stats
Jay Cutler-
Rex Grossman-
Link Posted: 9/5/2013 1:14:32 PM EDT
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The point is OJ was not convicted of murder in the first and Ben was not charged or convicted of rape.  Both are guilty as fuck regardless.
Link Posted: 9/5/2013 1:16:00 PM EDT
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Not to mention the fact that RO type QBs are going to get hit a lot more this season.His next tattoo might be a life sized Clay Mathews shaped bruise.
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Speaking as a long long time 49ers fan.  Lets not jinx Kaep by saying hes among the leagues best just yet.  Kid has a lot to prove still.

Not to mention the fact that RO type QBs are going to get hit a lot more this season.His next tattoo might be a life sized Clay Mathews shaped bruise.

Guess you havent been paying attention at all.  Kaep does not allow himself to get hit like RG3 does.  Watch some highlights.  He goes down or gets out of bounds.
Link Posted: 9/5/2013 1:16:53 PM EDT
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Fuck that rapist.
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roethlisberger, 2 rings and cant even make your poll?  

Fuck that rapist.


http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Brian-Banks-Rape-Case-Exonerated-NFL-Atlanta-Falcons-218978851.html

They did fuck this rapist, but he wasn't.
Link Posted: 9/5/2013 1:16:56 PM EDT
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That's how I voted.

 
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Brady, Rogers, Brees, P-Manning



All others are on the outside looking in.
That's how I voted.

 




 
me too
Link Posted: 9/5/2013 1:18:27 PM EDT
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roethlisberger, 2 rings and cant even make your poll?  

Fuck that rapist.


http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Brian-Banks-Rape-Case-Exonerated-NFL-Atlanta-Falcons-218978851.html

They did fuck this rapist, but he wasn't.

Yeah but Ben is.  Did you not follow that story at all?
Link Posted: 9/5/2013 1:19:06 PM EDT
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Brady, Rogers, Brees, P-Manning

All others are on the outside looking in.
That's how I voted.
 



Exactly

And Vick?

Link Posted: 9/5/2013 1:19:35 PM EDT
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I considered putting Big Ben in my T2 list. He's solid. He probably belongs on the list ... Seems like more of a "system" guy with a good defense though.
Link Posted: 9/5/2013 1:21:22 PM EDT
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Whose Elite?  I determine that if they are Hall of Fame Bound.

Brady - Superbowls and NFL records- Yup
Breez- Superbowl and NFL records- Yup
P.Manning- Superbowl and NFL records- Yup
E. Manning- 2 Superbowls- Yup
B.Rothlisburger - 2 Superbowls- Yup

Robert Griffin III- If he can do what he did last year for 10+ years with a superbowl, maybe.

Aaron Rodgers- 1 hit wonder- nope
Tony Romo-   ...Jerry Jones  
M.Vick- can still be dangerous, but no Hall of Fame Stats
Jay Cutler-
Rex Grossman-
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Aaron Rodgers has some NFL Records.

Super Bowl champion (XLV)
Super Bowl MVP (XLV)
Single season QB Passer Rating record (137.9)[1][2]

Highest career passer rating in NFL history (125.9)
Highest career touchdown to interception ratio (207/28)
Lowest career pass interception % (0.7)
Link Posted: 9/5/2013 1:24:54 PM EDT
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Guess you havent been paying attention at all.  Kaep does not allow himself to get hit like RG3 does.  Watch some highlights.  He goes down or gets out of bounds.
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Speaking as a long long time 49ers fan.  Lets not jinx Kaep by saying hes among the leagues best just yet.  Kid has a lot to prove still.

Not to mention the fact that RO type QBs are going to get hit a lot more this season.His next tattoo might be a life sized Clay Mathews shaped bruise.

Guess you havent been paying attention at all.  Kaep does not allow himself to get hit like RG3 does.  Watch some highlights.  He goes down or gets out of bounds.

You can only dodge the silver bullet for so long.
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Brady, Rogers, Brees, Manning

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Link Posted: 9/5/2013 1:27:20 PM EDT
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No Super Bowl=Not Elite.

So, both Mannings, Brees, Rodgers, Flaco, Brady. Several guys on the list that are damn good, but will be considered tier 2 until they deliver a Super Bowl, it Is what it is.
Link Posted: 9/5/2013 1:27:38 PM EDT
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Forgot about that, how much time did he do for that?? Ohhh yea he wasnt even charged

 
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Fuck that rapist.
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He paid off the victims.



 
Link Posted: 9/5/2013 1:27:43 PM EDT
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You can only dodge the silver bullet for so long.
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Speaking as a long long time 49ers fan.  Lets not jinx Kaep by saying hes among the leagues best just yet.  Kid has a lot to prove still.

Not to mention the fact that RO type QBs are going to get hit a lot more this season.His next tattoo might be a life sized Clay Mathews shaped bruise.

Guess you havent been paying attention at all.  Kaep does not allow himself to get hit like RG3 does.  Watch some highlights.  He goes down or gets out of bounds.

You can only dodge the silver bullet for so long.

Kaep does not run as much as everyone claims.  Name one QB who has a stronger arm than him.  I can think of 1 or 2 whos arms might be just as strong but not stronger.  His accuracy is pretty damn good also.  Nice try in trying to peg him as a running QB.
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Aaron Rodgers has some NFL Records.

Super Bowl champion (XLV)
Super Bowl MVP (XLV)
Single season QB Passer Rating record (137.9)[1][2]

Highest career passer rating in NFL history (125.9)
Highest career touchdown to interception ratio (207/28)
Lowest career pass interception % (0.7)
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Whose Elite?  I determine that if they are Hall of Fame Bound.

Brady - Superbowls and NFL records- Yup
Breez- Superbowl and NFL records- Yup
P.Manning- Superbowl and NFL records- Yup
E. Manning- 2 Superbowls- Yup
B.Rothlisburger - 2 Superbowls- Yup

Robert Griffin III- If he can do what he did last year for 10+ years with a superbowl, maybe.

Aaron Rodgers- 1 hit wonder- nope
Tony Romo-   ...Jerry Jones  
M.Vick- can still be dangerous, but no Hall of Fame Stats
Jay Cutler-
Rex Grossman-


Aaron Rodgers has some NFL Records.

Super Bowl champion (XLV)
Super Bowl MVP (XLV)
Single season QB Passer Rating record (137.9)[1][2]

Highest career passer rating in NFL history (125.9)
Highest career touchdown to interception ratio (207/28)
Lowest career pass interception % (0.7)


Rodgers numbers sure stand up against Bree's and manning,Mach with only one SBR ring.
Link Posted: 9/5/2013 1:39:41 PM EDT
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Kaep does not run as much as everyone claims.  Name one QB who has a stronger arm than him.  I can think of 1 or 2 whos arms might be just as strong but not stronger.  His accuracy is pretty damn good also.  Nice try in trying to peg him as a running QB.
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Speaking as a long long time 49ers fan.  Lets not jinx Kaep by saying hes among the leagues best just yet.  Kid has a lot to prove still.

Not to mention the fact that RO type QBs are going to get hit a lot more this season.His next tattoo might be a life sized Clay Mathews shaped bruise.

Guess you havent been paying attention at all.  Kaep does not allow himself to get hit like RG3 does.  Watch some highlights.  He goes down or gets out of bounds.

You can only dodge the silver bullet for so long.

Kaep does not run as much as everyone claims.  Name one QB who has a stronger arm than him.  I can think of 1 or 2 whos arms might be just as strong but not stronger.  His accuracy is pretty damn good also.  Nice try in trying to peg him as a running QB.

Well,Harbaugh is already whining to the league about teams beginning to target RO QB's so there must be something to it.
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Rodgers numbers sure stand up against Bree's and manning,Mach with only one SBR ring.
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Whose Elite?  I determine that if they are Hall of Fame Bound.

Brady - Superbowls and NFL records- Yup
Breez- Superbowl and NFL records- Yup
P.Manning- Superbowl and NFL records- Yup
E. Manning- 2 Superbowls- Yup
B.Rothlisburger - 2 Superbowls- Yup

Robert Griffin III- If he can do what he did last year for 10+ years with a superbowl, maybe.

Aaron Rodgers- 1 hit wonder- nope
Tony Romo-   ...Jerry Jones  
M.Vick- can still be dangerous, but no Hall of Fame Stats
Jay Cutler-
Rex Grossman-


Aaron Rodgers has some NFL Records.

Super Bowl champion (XLV)
Super Bowl MVP (XLV)
Single season QB Passer Rating record (137.9)[1][2]

Highest career passer rating in NFL history (125.9)
Highest career touchdown to interception ratio (207/28)
Lowest career pass interception % (0.7)


Rodgers numbers sure stand up against Bree's and manning,Mach with only one SBR ring.


Rodgers will get another ring, it is only a matter of time.
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Brady
Manning
Rogers

can not wait for tonight!

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Bluetick you need to look up how often He actually ran the RO.  It was not as often as you are thinking.
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Trent Dilfer?
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Only those with a Superbowl win are "elite" (sorry Dan Marino fans).

 

Trent Dilfer?

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Whose Elite?  I determine that if they are Hall of Fame Bound.



Brady - Superbowls and NFL records- Yup

Breez- Superbowl and NFL records- Yup

P.Manning- Superbowl and NFL records- Yup

E. Manning- 2 Superbowls- Yup

B.Rothlisburger - 2 Superbowls- Yup



Robert Griffin III- If he can do what he did last year for 10+ years with a superbowl, maybe.



Aaron Rodgers- 1 hit wonder- nope

Tony Romo-   ...Jerry Jones  

M.Vick- can still be dangerous, but no Hall of Fame Stats

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Do you even football bro?



Let me attempt to follow your logic.  Big Ben has 2 rings = elite.  Leaving out the fact that he played like shit in his first super bowl(his words).  And leaving out the fact that he played with a fucking awesome defense both times.  



How many regular seasons MVP awards does Big Ben have?  How about Super Bowl MVPs?  I will give you the answer.  Zero.



If Rodgers is a fluke, what the fuck does that make Big Ben?



 
Link Posted: 9/5/2013 1:56:07 PM EDT
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OP Thank You for not putting Tony Romo on that list.

I voted Michael Vick, is he a dogfighting scumbag? yes, is he good at Football though? Yes,
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Peyton, Brady, Rodgers and Brees are the only four that qualify for "elite".



Eli?  Not even close.  He's a winner, no doubt about it, but he's far from being an elite QB.



Flacco?  Not yet.  If his OC lets him play maybe one day he will be.



Vick?  No.



Ryan?  Not yet.  Possibly the closest of the non-elite bunch.



Kaepernick?  Too early to tell.



Wilson?  Also too early to tell, and he will always have his naysayers just because he's short.  Dude could break every record in the book, win 5 super bowls and rescue a baby and a dog from a burning building and there will still be people that won't give him credit.  Don't believe me?  See Doug Flutie.



For the record, I am not a Seahawks fan though I know it sounds like it right now.

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Drew Brees - Eli manning.



You people are fucking high.
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Don't give up on that dude.  He could turn out to be more than adequate.  A few playoff seasons at least, though I'd advise against hoping for a Super Bowl appearance with him at the helm.



 
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Poll Fail - No Tony Romo...just look at the stats my friend.
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No Romo love?
Haters gonna hate.
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This is how I voted as well. However, Tony Romo is absolutely elite and missing from the poll. The 4 above named QBs are the only ones that put up better numbers than Romo year after year. Yeah, he is stuck with bad coaches and a B+ team but he is elite none the less.

Eli manning does not belong on that list. He consistently over and under throws receivers, he is lucky his team mates have talent and pick up the slack... Most overrated player in the league bar none and will never live up to his brother.

"But he has 2 rings"- no, fuck that. His TEAM has 2 rings and he is on that team. He has done nothing to garner the credit he gets for either of those wins.

God I hate Eli fucking manning.
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The only reason he's not is because he's a gunslinger who takes chances when the rest of his team doesn't perform. He's a tremendous talent with no line and the dumbest receivers in the business.  About 25 teams in the league would trade their starter for Romo in a heartbeat.
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Brady, Rogers, Brees, P-Manning

Tier 2: Ryan, Eli Manning, Flacco, Romo

(That's the top 25% of starters)

All others are on the outside looking in.

Luck, kapernick, RG3, maybe RWilson on the brink of being T2

Romo tier 2?  Seriously?


I know right? He belongs in the first tier.



The only reason he's not is because he's a gunslinger who takes chances when the rest of his team doesn't perform. He's a tremendous talent with no line and the dumbest receivers in the business.  About 25 teams in the league would trade their starter for Romo in a heartbeat.



Absolute this 100%
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I'm really just a pissed off Cardinal fan to be honest.
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All the Super Bowl winners on your list are elite. I don't think you need to win a Super Bowl to be elite, though. Dan Marino never won one and is an all time elite quarter, Trent Dilfer did win one and wouldn't make anyone's list as an elite quarterback.

ETA Rothlisberger should at least be on the list as well.
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Your avatar gets too much of my attention every time it's on the screen.









ETA - no BOTD thread?  WTF?





 
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Drew Brees - Eli manning.



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I know, I can't believe 62 people voted for Dumbface. Or Captain Interception. Whichever you like.
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So, both Mannings, Brees, Rodgers, Flaco, Brady. Several guys on the list that are damn good, but will be considered tier 2 until they deliver a Super Bowl, it Is what it is.
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Its a good thing Terrell Davis came along or John Elway wouldn't have been elite.

Your criteria makes Trent Dilfer elite.

Lulz.
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