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Posted: 3/29/2022 8:25:12 AM EDT
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 For the record, here's what a proper 1909 looks like. 
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Posted: 3/29/2022 8:27:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Still has the Nazi markings. I was told the most were ground off before import. Perhaps my source was full of  I have a K98 un-bubbafied, paid about $300 for it some years ago. The markings are often struck/removed on Russian/Yugo Capture guns. Not always, but it's common. I've never seen a K98 that wasn't one of those two types with defaced or removed markings. Not saying they don't exist, but it's certainly not normal for them. |
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Posted: 3/29/2022 9:36:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The markings are often struck/removed on Russian/Yugo Capture guns. Not always, but it's common. I've never seen a K98 that wasn't one of those two types with defaced or removed markings. Not saying they don't exist, but it's certainly not normal for them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Still has the Nazi markings. I was told the most were ground off before import. Perhaps my source was full of I have a K98 un-bubbafied, paid about $300 for it some years ago. The markings are often struck/removed on Russian/Yugo Capture guns. Not always, but it's common. I've never seen a K98 that wasn't one of those two types with defaced or removed markings. Not saying they don't exist, but it's certainly not normal for them. |
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Posted: 3/29/2022 12:13:13 PM EDT
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Very cool rifle OP. Nice score!
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Posted: 3/29/2022 12:21:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The markings are often struck/removed on Russian/Yugo Capture guns. Not always, but it's common. I've never seen a K98 that wasn't one of those two types with defaced or removed markings. Not saying they don't exist, but it's certainly not normal for them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Still has the Nazi markings. I was told the most were ground off before import. Perhaps my source was full of I have a K98 un-bubbafied, paid about $300 for it some years ago. The markings are often struck/removed on Russian/Yugo Capture guns. Not always, but it's common. I've never seen a K98 that wasn't one of those two types with defaced or removed markings. Not saying they don't exist, but it's certainly not normal for them. How can you tell if they are Yugoslavian capture or not? I was told that mine is, but I see no evidence of it. |
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Posted: 3/29/2022 12:23:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Put it in the appropriate stock and it will look good. Quote HistoryQuoted: Put it in the appropriate stock and it will look good. This. It's well preserved and well built for a 45 model. Quoted: The markings are often struck/removed on Russian/Yugo Capture guns. Not always, but it's common. I've never seen a K98 that wasn't one of those two types with defaced or removed markings. Not saying they don't exist, but it's certainly not normal for them. It was probably a duffel cut vet bring back hence the sporter stock vs issue and markings still there. |
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Posted: 3/29/2022 12:28:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How can you tell if they are Yugoslavian capture or not? I was told that mine is, but I see no evidence of it. The Yugo guns can be identified a couple of ways. They generally have scrubbed markings and force-matched parts like the RCs do, but don't exhibit the dark blue/black refinish job most RCs have. Often, they will have the Yugo crest stamped on them, and the marks "PREDUZECE 44" added to the left side of the receiver. |
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Posted: 3/29/2022 12:29:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Israeli K98s are often defaced too. Yup - forgot about those. |
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Posted: 3/29/2022 12:32:30 PM EDT
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Good news is that there has been quite a few stocks around at different retailers in the last few years. 200 you should have something very usable. You won't find a 45 stock, but a nice laminate, cupped buttplate stock will look pretty good on that rifle.
I saw 2 or 3 posters saying put a scope on it. I hope they are joking because drilling that WILL make it a $159 rifle. They don't know what they are talking about. |
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Posted: 3/29/2022 12:38:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Yugo guns can be identified a couple of ways. They generally have scrubbed markings and force-matched parts like the RCs do, but don't exhibit the dark blue/black refinish job most RCs have. Often, they will have the Yugo crest stamped on them, and the marks "PREDUZECE 44" added to the left side of the receiver. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How can you tell if they are Yugoslavian capture or not? I was told that mine is, but I see no evidence of it. The Yugo guns can be identified a couple of ways. They generally have scrubbed markings and force-matched parts like the RCs do, but don't exhibit the dark blue/black refinish job most RCs have. Often, they will have the Yugo crest stamped on them, and the marks "PREDUZECE 44" added to the left side of the receiver. I haven’t had mine out of the safe in awhile, but I think it has been force matched, it doesn’t have any other modifications though. |
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Posted: 3/29/2022 12:45:50 PM EDT
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A lot of RC K98s have the nazi symbols pinged, but some are unmolested. I have one of each.
The Russians disassembled and reassembled the rifles during inspection/reconditioning, and weren't concerned about keeping part numbers matching, including the stock. Any K98 stock will be "appropriate" for an RC. I guess that now would be a bad time to mention the barrel full of $10 K98 stocks that I saw at a military rifle collection estate sale 20 years ago... I did score a sweet unmolested numbers-matching G98 at that sale. 
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Posted: 3/29/2022 12:55:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/29/2022 1:05:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A lot of RC K98s have the nazi symbols pinged, but some are unmolested. I have one of each. Indeed. In the world of milsurps it is generally wise to avoid using the terms always or never. Odd things happen. |
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Posted: 3/29/2022 1:11:10 PM EDT
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30/06 ------ 30 Dave Long Noodle ------ 8x57 Mauser
I take the expander out of the die for the first step, trim and then expand. This order also helps if you have a 30cal pilot for your trimmer and not a 32cal. I use a dremel with a cut off wheel to take the big chunk off, the harbor freight mini cut off wheel in the preferred method by most.  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/29/2022 3:06:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The markings are often struck/removed on Russian/Yugo Capture guns. Not always, but it's common. I've never seen a K98 that wasn't one of those two types with defaced or removed markings. Not saying they don't exist, but it's certainly not normal for them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Still has the Nazi markings. I was told the most were ground off before import. Perhaps my source was full of I have a K98 un-bubbafied, paid about $300 for it some years ago. The markings are often struck/removed on Russian/Yugo Capture guns. Not always, but it's common. I've never seen a K98 that wasn't one of those two types with defaced or removed markings. Not saying they don't exist, but it's certainly not normal for them. I have had 10-12 Russian capture and they all still had their original markings. Early (1945-46) Yugos may have some of their markings. Later, they were removed. |
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Posted: 3/29/2022 3:11:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Any 1945 production 98k with un-drilled metal is collectible. OP, wanna sell it? PM Me a price. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Mauser produced in 1945 and lightly sporterized. That's all I got. Any 1945 production 98k with un-drilled metal is collectible. OP, wanna sell it? PM Me a price. I've been trying to find a 45 as well... thats a great steal OP... 2nd in line! |
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Posted: 3/29/2022 5:08:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 30/06 ------ 30 Dave Long Noodle ------ 8x57 Mauser I take the expander out of the die for the first step, trim and then expand. This order also helps if you have a 30cal pilot for your trimmer and not a 32cal. I use a dremel with a cut off wheel to take the big chunk off, the harbor freight mini cut off wheel in the preferred method by most. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/123862/57645C31-90BA-419D-8616-3A8AB680A168_jpe-2330608.JPG Any preference on dies? |
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Posted: 3/29/2022 5:12:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Any preference on dies? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 30/06 ------ 30 Dave Long Noodle ------ 8x57 Mauser I take the expander out of the die for the first step, trim and then expand. This order also helps if you have a 30cal pilot for your trimmer and not a 32cal. I use a dremel with a cut off wheel to take the big chunk off, the harbor freight mini cut off wheel in the preferred method by most. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/123862/57645C31-90BA-419D-8616-3A8AB680A168_jpe-2330608.JPG Any preference on dies? I use Lee dies for 8x57. But I am not a hardcore fanboy of RCBS/Lee/Hornady/Etc. Lee is nice due to price, i ordered a 2nd sizing die for like $12 just so I can keep the expander out of one for forming and keep one setup for normal reloading. If I were to buy today, it would probably be RCBS but I would still want two sizing dies for my process. Eta: it should also be noted that I anneal before forming. Old school, spark plug socket in a drill, spin in a propane torch. |
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Posted: 3/29/2022 6:56:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I use Lee dies for 8x57. But I am not a hardcore fanboy of RCBS/Lee/Hornady/Etc. Lee is nice due to price, i ordered a 2nd sizing die for like $12 just so I can keep the expander out of one for forming and keep one setup for normal reloading. If I were to buy today, it would probably be RCBS but I would still want two sizing dies for my process. Eta: it should also be noted that I anneal before forming. Old school, spark plug socket in a drill, spin in a propane torch. Hmmm, I may finally break out the Annealeez and actually use it! |
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Posted: 3/29/2022 7:24:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have had 10-12 Russian capture and they all still had their original markings. Early (1945-46) Yugos may have some of their markings. Later, they were removed. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Still has the Nazi markings. I was told the most were ground off before import. Perhaps my source was full of I have a K98 un-bubbafied, paid about $300 for it some years ago. The markings are often struck/removed on Russian/Yugo Capture guns. Not always, but it's common. I've never seen a K98 that wasn't one of those two types with defaced or removed markings. Not saying they don't exist, but it's certainly not normal for them. I have had 10-12 Russian capture and they all still had their original markings. Early (1945-46) Yugos may have some of their markings. Later, they were removed. Early Yugo conversion. Later Americanized....  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/29/2022 7:25:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/3561/20210501_211230-1926418.jpg For the record, here's what a proper 1909 looks like. Mine only cost me a used chainsaw though. 
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Posted: 3/29/2022 8:33:18 PM EDT
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I'll be honest, I used to care much for Mauser actions. They always felt clunky, triggers were underwhelming, and everyone I ever touched felt as heavy as a cross-tie. But as I have gotten older, I have really learned to appreciate them more...and the collection is growing!
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Posted: 3/29/2022 8:38:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll be honest, I used to care much for Mauser actions. They always felt clunky, triggers were underwhelming, and everyone I ever touched felt as heavy as a cross-tie. But as I have gotten older, I have really learned to appreciate them more...and the collection is growing! You describe them in their milsurp format I have a .243Win I am building on a FN commercial action that weighs 5lb 15oz.(without optics) Plenty of good triggers though my favorite, Canjar, is long out of production. |
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Posted: 4/24/2022 8:27:07 PM EDT
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Anyone have any details on what this stock would have been for?
                
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Posted: 4/24/2022 8:35:23 PM EDT
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That looks like a Turkish stock to me.
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Posted: 4/24/2022 8:35:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone ever try resizing .30-06 brass to 8x57? Yes. Did this for my nephew when he got an RC K-98k and wanted to learn about reloading. It worked just fine. He decided that reloading was boring and bought Turk and Romanian Surplus to blast with. I took him hunting with his K-98k and his reloads and he decided that hunting was too hard and boring. 
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Posted: 4/24/2022 8:52:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone have any details on what this stock would have been for? https://i.imgur.com/Mvmj6Xs.jpg https://i.imgur.com/KQLdJFQ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/hdRDLjY.jpg https://i.imgur.com/gHncVYb.jpg https://i.imgur.com/KX6CFG3.jpg https://i.imgur.com/j9EB231.jpg https://i.imgur.com/MzY4oak.jpg https://i.imgur.com/0eM3CNd.jpg https://i.imgur.com/SiUe3xV.jpg https://i.imgur.com/xa6Is3M.jpg https://i.imgur.com/nYAzmDo.jpg https://i.imgur.com/4bgMGbB.jpg https://i.imgur.com/GMMkfel.jpg https://i.imgur.com/bqi3L3q.jpg https://i.imgur.com/XaGnfPu.jpg https://i.imgur.com/EviJscr.jpg https://i.imgur.com/MVhKC6e.jpg I was thinking a CZ 98/22 |
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