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Tagged for hatemail when I get home. |
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+1 It'll be interesting knowing what his definition of "embellished" means. |
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If the above is true and you have proof of it you should write his suppliers who most certainly lost a large amount of money, because of his actions or would risk losing money in the future if he continues on this path. I see no evidence in that link. So far these are just folks chatting on the internet so I wouldn't say "burn the witch" yet. |
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And ended up in Michigan. How is the AG suppressor thing or your chances of ever having SBRs and SBSs looking? Just kidding. |
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Sounds to me like he deserves it. |
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Yes, it could be just hearsay, but the info was from people who are in touch with "Ted" regularly. These are people that visit his store, and are members at the same range he frequents. He talked, and talked a LOT to them. These people are also very trusted in the NES community. I personally have purchased over $6K from Ted in guns since May. From now on I'll go somewhere else. It sucks, because he has a couple of really nice guys there that I liked to purchase from, but the money still goes into his pocket. What pisses me off the most is the fact that he doesn't stock much of what I reload, and I can't get any one to send me what he doesn't stock. Not to mention the lack of mags on the store shelves for what he sells. |
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I'm a member over there. The incident was first discussed in great length over in the "Members" forum (similar to the "Team" forum her). It later found it's way to one of the public forums where it got even more attention. Even then, the owners name/shop wasn't divulged until there was confirmation from other members there that "Ted" had admitted that he indeed was the one who dropped a dime to the AGs office, and that he had no problem doing so. |
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You have spread this to other gun forums, have you not?
If what you have said is true, this assclown deserves to go bankrupt. Word spreads fast in the gun owning community. |
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Thanks for the support guys.
He really screwed us on online ammo sales,there were a few places that did ship to us after we sent a DL and some places wanted our LTC license(kind of like a CCW),but he helped in ending that. |
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Yes.. Please paste it... |
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I hope you Mass guys don't get too bent over this. You strain at a gnat but you have swallowed the camel. The writing has been on the wall up there for years. It says: "AMERICANS, GET THE FUCK OUT! - sincerely yours, the socialists, the communists, the Kennedy's, and the government." Now this guy has used a system that hates YOU (the people of MASS) and is causing YOU (the people of MASS) even more problems. Who are you gonna fight on this one? You only have three options: 1: Tea Party 2: Move somewhere else - maybe a battleground state, where your vote is not squelched. 3: Eat shit and let things get worse. TAG for FLAME |
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Unfortunately you're right, but some of us can't. |
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Ok people, I live in mass and it sucks. But i would like to make the following points:
1) If it is true that the firearms mentioned in this thread were in fact being sold, people were breaking the law. 2) The law sucks in MA, but it is the law and if you live here you have to comply or deal with the consequences. 3) If I were a small business owner who had a corporate entity partake in illegal activities that could put me out of business, I would do anything to keep my business viable within the law. Sincerely, Gun loving republican in MA |
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Good to see you let bullshit laws supersede your constitutional rights...I can see how you would prevent breaking these laws yourself in order to prevent undue hardship for your family but attempting to justify them towards others makes you no better then the individuals who passed them in my book. |
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My ancestor (who's name is one of those on the minuteman statue) is rolling over in his grave at what has become of the birthpalce of the revolution.
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And that's where you are SO wrong. It's not illegal for people to purchase, or own the firearms mentioned. The firearms in question are on the EOPS list. It's the AG's invisible BS that says they can fine an FFL for selling them that occurred. To go even further. I don't see this dealer trying to fight the BS AG's invisible list, and I think most of us here in the peoples republic would've liked to see Bass Pro take on the fight. Of course that's wishful thinking. Then there's the dealer calling in out of state vendors to the AG, and making them sign agreements to not send reloading products or ammo to MA customers, when it is completely legal to do so. |
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Yes and Ammoman was one of them! |
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I own 3rd generation Glocks and I live in MA. Have my constitutional rights been impinged upon?. Yes, I did pay +$200 over MSRP to own them in MA, but I do own them. Please point me to the constitutional provision which indicates that the cost of firearms is protected under the constitution and I will sue MA as I am an attorney. |
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If you don't see the fact that you paid $200 over MSRP was due to the MA governments 'infringement' on your rights, I guess you wouldn't see pistols costing $200,000 due to government influence as infringement either...What are they teaching in law school? Maybe you should be charged $200 every time you open your mouth to talk as well.... |
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And how exactely would someone selling 3rd gen Glocks put you out of business ? Maybe you are referring to the practice of MA dealers buying up all the police trade in Glocks online and marking them up $2-$300 bucks before selling them to us. What about the person who put a stop to Bass Pro's practice of price matching because he was afraid the customers were going to resell them ? That is competition,plain and simple. Ted doesn't like competition,and he will be reaping the benefits of his acts. |
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+1,000,000 He made his bed. |
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Will send an email later after I have been drinking, it should be that much more witty yet have just enough hate to get the job done I may go with a poem, anyone know what rymes with " rotting cancer of the ass you fuck "
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I don't have any idea who built this little website about Northeast Traders,but it's kind of funny.
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Thanks for the support Klink. |
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Here it is with names omitted: The "meat and potatoes" of the email was in the form of a memo that many have read. Therefore I do not believe I would be violating any internet protocol by pasting the letter.
From: "Ted O--n" To: rob78 CC: [email protected] Subject: Re: your actions Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 12:54:05 -0500 Rob, Please don't bother sending a reply. You certainly may have any opinion you want of me and my store (even if born out of non-truth.) Attached is my memo to a another NES member that was nice enough to ask what the truth is... "First and foremost please let me state that I have and will continue to work for gun owners and their rights to keep and bear arms, ammo and all those items that we should be able to own, and to get out from under the oppressive laws that we have in MA. After all I have been a licensed gun owner for 42 years. I run a very extensive Firearm Safety Class and assist my students in any way that I can to obtain their LTC. As to BP, yes I over reacted to what looked like a direct threat to my business. I should have realized that our store or any gun store generally has better pricing then they do. I actually I called the CHSB, not because of GLOCKs but because of guns not on the EOPS list.(I was told I wasn't the first caller and probably wouldn't be the last.) I was then and for the first time ever contacted and asked if I could elaborate. My answer was simply that I had heard through customers coming into the store and also what I had read on the various gun forums. They mentioned they had seen information on the forums also. Hind sight, I over reacted and probably should have just kept my mouth shut. Not that it's an excuse but if you know me, you know that I work 7 days a week trying my best to have a full store with the items that we shooters buy and at the best possible price I can stay alive with. I'm proud that I made a business that allows me to be able to have several people work hear and pay them very good wages. As far as this ratting out to the AG (aside from BP) or anyone else for that matter on anything including outside of MA businesses selling in to MA is just blatantly and absolutely not true. I am totally dumb founded where this is coming from. I've known Q for years and consider him a friend. He and I have done a lot of things together including shooting activities at the Mansfield Club. I just don't understand where he is coming from. Several years ago when the Dealer Organization was first formed (we don't or have not done much the last several years) Nancy Snow from GOAL had called and asked if I would talk to an organization about selling into MA. They The Sportsman's Guide (if memory serves me correct) was in the process of being served by our AG. They did contact me and we worked very hard to help them understand that if they received a copy of a MA Drivers License and a License to Carry or an FID card and kept it on file that they could sell into MA. Later they called back and told me that after their lawyers reviewed the MA laws they were cautioned and told it would not be in their best interest to sell to MA. I really tried my best to keep this company selling to MA. Just so you know, since we opened the store and even as an FFL from my house we have always had a policy that customers could use our FFL and address to order from any company that would not normally send to a private party. We do not charge anything for this service and I send FFLs frequently for this purpose. Also, even I as a dealer have some companies because of their agreement with the AG, will not send AMMO to me as an FFL. I have to have the ammo sent to an out of state shop and then go pick it up myself. As a side note I did contact BP before they opened via email, and one of the Hunting Managers stopped by a week before opening and we casually talked about gun sales and when they said Glocks, I mentioned not ok for MA, and he said they were told they were good to go. I did make an effort to inform them." I hope this clears up the misinformation about myself and Northeast Trading Company Ted |
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No problem, and so for the ryme its looking like " and your whole family run down by a truck ". I will need a few more beers but it is shaping up nicely. |
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Luckily, Bill Ruger is no longer part of Ruger and neither is the rest of his Family. The Lawyers and businessmen in the Soutport HQ here in CT forced all of the Rugers out of the company, and Bill has been dead for a few years. Good Riddance I say. |
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Thanks for posting Rob. Nothing but damage control at this point. He has more skeletons in his closet than this latest Attorney General rat incident. He is no friend of the gun owner and is only looking out for HIM. |
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Bill Ruger is dead. |
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________________________________________________________________________________ Sorry Ted but you might as well signed it, "Sincerely Jim Zumbo". The damage caused by your actions are irreversible. |
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Bully for you. And just how long do you think that's going to last? I wouldn't brag, if I was you. The only difference is the amount of restriction, which can be altered at your AG's whim. |
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I don't think he's bragging as there is exactly zero that we can brag about, gunwise, in this state. I think he's pointing out how ridiculous the MA law is when even we can get something. |
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People pay me more than $200 to open my mouth, thank you. The ONLY good point you make is the argument that the AG of MA making 3rd generation glocks illegal unless purchased and owned before the ban in essence is materially interfering with interstate commerce. However, given that it is a free market economy that sets the price of a pre-ban 3rd gen glock in MA as in any state, it would be a loosing fight. Any MA dealer could sell a pre-ban firearm at MSRP...but then they would be at the same IQ level as some of those who post here. If the government making laws that may 'infringe' upon my rights because a good or service must be paid for, Im suing ...after all, it FREE SPEECH PROTECTED BY THE CONSTITUTION! How DARE THEY CHARGE TAX ON A NEWSPAPER WHICH INCREASES THE PRICE. My mistake, the Supreme court already settled this matter in ASSOCIATED PRESS v. N.L.R.B., 301 U.S. 103 (1937). Shall I go on? |
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Exactly. Thank you. |
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They allow guns in MA?!
However this turns out, tell your neighbors to stay the F*CK out of my state. |
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Here's my letter:
I would recommend to the OP that he edits, and adds "FIREMISSION" to the title of his post. |
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Nice and to the point Maze,thanks for your support.
As far as MA Liberals moving up North,I feel for ya.Liberalism is like a virus,it attacks and destroys one state at a time. |
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One definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result. Liberals in MA (or CA, or NY for that matter) screw up their states by voting in their leftist policies. When they reap the results, and the states go down the tubes, they leave, but do the same thing elsewhere. It's maddening. |
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BTT in case anyone wants to read Ted's reply to my email.
a few posts up... |
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Is he really asshole that screwed up mail-order ammo purchases for us?
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northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=345642&postcount=364
Decide for yourself............. After reporting (admittedly mind you!) BPS to the CHSB/AG's Office it's really a moot point for me. |
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