i'm tired of having my tax dollars wasted on something that isn't working.

 

Three Strikes or WoD?

I seriously doubt that the jury sentenced him or knew that he would be eligible for Life Without if convicted.

More of this 'I thought GD says bullshit? Give it a fuckin rest.

If it were simple possession for personal use, I'd reflect your sentiment. But when you're trafficking 6 lbs of a drug you know is illegal? Lol, go claim your prize and thanks for playing the Stupid Game™.

Good pardon.

lol

Good.  Imprisoning someone for a plant is absurd.

Even if people shoot each other over who is going to sell 'the plant' on this corner or that one?

The "plant" canard is so tired.  Heroin and Cocaine come from plants too.  

Whiskey, wine, and beer come from plants, too. People used to shoot each other over who was going to sell 'the plants' on this corner or that one. How did we put a stop to people shooting each other over who would sell whiskey, wine, and beer on this corner or that one?

clearly his first two trips to prison didn't change him.

No.  It wouldn't matter to me if you wanted to sell lemonade on that corner.  You would just be a fucking murderer.

Right.   Thank you.  

A criminal is a criminal just like the turd subject of this story.   I don't believe in abortion but I deem Eric Rudolph a criminal.  

Marijuana apologists don't have that same intellectual honestly.  They believe a crime is a crime only unless it's even tangentially related to their 'peaceful plant' that people kill each other over every single day.  

That is another tired argument that doesn't work.  You'd have to advocate for legalizing heroin and cocaine the same way in that case, because there is as much demand or greater in dollars than there is for marijuana.   But intellectual honesty isn't a trait followed by the talking points marijuana apologist.

Alcohol was 100% legal since forever until it was outlawed, so it's an apples to oranges comparison.  People who grew an appreciation for alcohol did so legally before it was taken away from them.  Those that appreciate marijuana have developed that wholly under the umbrella of crime.  The crime to smuggle it in here, the crime in violence to deliver it to the dealers and the crime of both selling, purchasing, possessing and using it.   Marijuana has never been legal (and the fed will never allow it to be for various reasons).   And the difference in demand today between alcohol and marijuana in market share are laughable by comparison.  

There's no money in it, otherwise it would have happened years ago.   There aren't even any votes worth chasing or the democrats would have cause marketed it when they owned congress and the white house and knew congress was in danger in the mid-terms.  They did nothing, and the president was an avid dope smoker.  Because it's a loser issue.

Where's the bill to completely legalize it federally and who are the co-sponsors it has?

Yeah, but they probably weren't dopers.  

Have you seen the damage a pot needle can do.  People get giggly, overeat, and sleep.  It's horrible.  

+1

You said that way better than I could have.

You are grandly wrong.

First, I advocate legalization of all drugs.

Second, the fact that evidence supporting legalization of marijuana also supports legalization of other drugs does not mean that it is in any sense dishonest to support legalization of marijuana but not of other drugs. One might believe that cocaine and heroin present a risk of addiction and overdose that marijuana does not and that therefore only marijuana should be legalized.

Third, your "facts" are pure trash. Drug prohibition began in or about 1914. Before that, marijuana, cocaine, heroin, and any other drug you can think of were legal "since forever."

Was the traffic in liquor associated with violence before or after Prohibition?
Was the traffic in liquor associated with violence during Prohibition?
Was the traffic in drugs associated with violence before drugs were outlawed?
Has the traffic in drugs been associated with violence since drugs were outlawed?

Answer the questions, then try to respond to the tired argument with something resembling facts and reason.

that part didn't make much sense...on the surface.

I think the WoD is a fucking crock of shit.  It has done absolutely nothing to curb the demand or the supply.  It has only served as a means to raise taxes and give government a tool to destroy the constitution.  We still have the same percentage of the population using drugs today as we did over 100 years ago, but we have given the government a lot more ability to intrude into our lives.  I know I would rather deal with a bunch of junkies kicking in my door to find drugs than a bunch of cops doing the same.

Ask yourself this question...  If we are unable to keep drugs out of prison, how do you expect to keep drugs out of a free society?

Just think there are some people who get paid to write pro-government doublespeak but FedDC does it for free

The law creates business for the law.  Without the WOD there wouldn't be any Mexican Drug Cartels because there wouldn't be any profit in it for them.  There wouldn't be any drug "violence" because there wouldn't be a black market.  Which by their very nature are violent because they involve money without the relief of the courts, or contract enforcement.  

It's a crazy vicious cycle.  

The more prohibitions, laws, and regulations the more crime and violence, and the more need for enforcement.  

Should there be a black market in marijuana?  No. Government employees shouldn't concern themselves with consumption laws.  They should focus on trying to protect the natural rights of individuals.  So by all means go after crimes that violate other's natural inalienable rights.  

It's really not that complicated.  

There is no way they want to "win" the war on drugs and make the problem really go away. Too much money and power in being the biggest cartel/gang in town, you know all those asset forfeiture without charges practices came from the war on drugs too

Cops and puritans will defend this shit.  Do not doubt me.

Yep just like those evil people who go to New York from Texas thinking they can bring their weapon so they will be able to defend themselves.  God damned criminals should be in jail.

I don't know, are you?  You have a lot of posts in GD so I guess you are all for this?  What is your opinion?

cool...legalize them too

They don't kill each other over the plant. Guess we should ban money though.....

Would you have sympathy for someone in CT who didn't register their guns?  How about someone who decided they wanted the ability to defend themselves and carried illegally in a state where you can't get a license?

Make it less free than a prison?

That seems to be the trend, anyways.