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Posted: 9/27/2014 2:17:27 PM EDT
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What a shitty route to hold a race. Yep. As a race promoter (I am) you don't hold timed events on a course that crosses tracks. There is no set schedule for freight trains (I checked for mine) so you either avoid it or roll the dice. |
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Posted: 9/27/2014 2:19:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryRailroad right-of-way is better than state or local right of way.  When you see a road "crossing" at railroad track, the road actually ends at the tracks and starts back up again on the other side. |
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Posted: 9/27/2014 2:20:15 PM EDT
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Yep. As a race promoter (I am) you don't hold timed events on a course that crosses tracks. There is no set schedule for freight trains (I checked for mine) so you either avoid it or roll the dice. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What a shitty route to hold a race. Yep. As a race promoter (I am) you don't hold timed events on a course that crosses tracks. There is no set schedule for freight trains (I checked for mine) so you either avoid it or roll the dice. That may be the case where you are, but I've run a few that crossed tracks and the organizers did, in fact, coordinate to ensure no trains were scheduled during the race. Of course, based on the events in the OP, you could always get fucked on that arrangement... Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/27/2014 2:20:18 PM EDT
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Why? The train appears to be stopped and those people are pressing on to finish their marathon. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
Why? The train appears to be stopped and those people are pressing on to finish their marathon. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Arfcom fatties hate fitness and people trying to be fit. |
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Posted: 9/27/2014 2:20:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Those faggoty assholes shouldn't be allowed to use the roads unless they get registration and pay road tax!  Roads are for cars, not runners. lol |
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Posted: 9/27/2014 2:22:10 PM EDT
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Suburbanites will do anything for a free t-shirt.
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Posted: 9/27/2014 2:22:41 PM EDT
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We used to have that all the time with parades in my town. The LIRR track runs right through the middle of the parade route. Only they don't stop. |
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Posted: 9/27/2014 2:22:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: wow, what a train wreck. Those ass holes derailed that marathon. Those runners were just chugging along. I bet the poor train engineer gets railroaded by his bosses. |
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Posted: 9/27/2014 2:24:18 PM EDT
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I do not agree with the idea that it is the Train companies fault. The planners from the marathon should have contacted them during pre route planning. If they did and the train was off schedule then that would be different. As for the runners looking like herded cats....... I wouldn't disrespect cats like that  I guess reading the article is just too tough for you? It clearly states that they had been coordinating with the railroad for MONTHS before the race, and that one of the railroad supervisors FUCKED UP. 
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Posted: 9/27/2014 2:25:38 PM EDT
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Those faggoty assholes shouldn't be allowed to use the roads unless they get registration and pay road tax!
Roads are for cars, not runners. Wholeheartedly agree. |
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Posted: 9/27/2014 2:27:10 PM EDT
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Those faggoty assholes shouldn't be allowed to use the roads unless they get registration and pay road tax!
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So that isn't something the runners train for?  I see what you both did there Hey, let's get this back on track! |
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Posted: 9/27/2014 2:32:41 PM EDT
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The one picture shows runners climbing on the cars and the conductor yelling at them. What a cluster. It should happen more often.
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Posted: 9/27/2014 2:34:50 PM EDT
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Idiots(the runners RUNNING in front of the train).
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Posted: 9/27/2014 2:40:04 PM EDT
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Those faggoty assholes shouldn't be allowed to use the roads unless they get registration and pay road tax!
Roads are for cars, not runners. I would add bicyclist to the list.
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Posted: 9/27/2014 2:42:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/27/2014 2:42:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would add bicyclist to the list. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Those faggoty assholes shouldn't be allowed to use the roads unless they get registration and pay road tax! Roads are for cars, not runners. I would add bicyclist to the list. |
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Posted: 9/27/2014 2:42:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, these races don't just happen on the spur of a moment....  |
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Posted: 9/27/2014 2:43:23 PM EDT
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Those faggoty assholes shouldn't be allowed to use the roads unless they get registration and pay road tax!
Roads are for cars, not runners. Don't derail this thread Lets not make people lose their train of thought. |
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Posted: 9/27/2014 2:51:03 PM EDT
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Lets not make people lose their train of thought. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Those faggoty assholes shouldn't be allowed to use the roads unless they get registration and pay road tax!
Roads are for cars, not runners. Don't derail this thread Lets not make people lose their train of thought. I will not be railroaded into groupthink 
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Posted: 9/27/2014 2:51:21 PM EDT
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Those faggoty assholes shouldn't be allowed to use the roads unless they get registration and pay road tax!
Roads are for cars, not runners. The "special snowflake syndrome" has reached such epic proportions here that joggers will run IN THE FUCKING STREET when there's a sidewalk immediately next to them
I guess they're showing solidarity with their bicycling brothers or something, but I take great pleasure in rolling down my window and telling them to get the fuck out of the road. I don't mind cyclists who actually obey the rules and aren't out to attention whore and block traffic, but I still think one of the best things about being a runner (besides not having to wear spandex and spend the equivalent of a PVS14 on a bicycle) is that most of the world is indifferent rather than actively hostile to you
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Posted: 9/27/2014 2:58:23 PM EDT
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The one picture shows runners climbing on the cars and the conductor yelling at them. What a cluster. It should happen more often. +1 And give everyone knives and batons. |
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Posted: 9/27/2014 3:06:34 PM EDT
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While working on draw bridges that have railways on them I've learned that Trains>marine traffic>roadway traffic.
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Posted: 9/27/2014 3:11:30 PM EDT
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The "special snowflake syndrome" has reached such epic proportions here that joggers will run IN THE FUCKING STREET when there's a sidewalk immediately next to them
I guess they're showing solidarity with their bicycling brothers or something, but I take great pleasure in rolling down my window and telling them to get the fuck out of the road. Asphalt is a lot softer and less conducive to shin splints than concrete. |
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Posted: 9/27/2014 3:16:04 PM EDT
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The "special snowflake syndrome" has reached such epic proportions here that joggers will run IN THE FUCKING STREET when there's a sidewalk immediately next to them
I guess they're showing solidarity with their bicycling brothers or something, but I take great pleasure in rolling down my window and telling them to get the fuck out of the road. Asphalt is a lot softer and less conducive to shin splints than concrete. The truly idiotic people in some of these pics seem to have a similar mindset to the suicidal cyclists in my area. Basically, "fuck you, fuck everything, the world revolves around my hobby right now". Nevermind the narrow 2-lane highway with blind curves, we're going to pedal in the middle of the motherfucking road instead of on the adjacent parallel bike path. |
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Posted: 9/27/2014 3:18:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/27/2014 3:19:57 PM EDT
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The truly idiotic people in some of these pics seem to have a similar mindset to the suicidal cyclists in my area. Basically, "fuck you, fuck everything, the world revolves around my hobby right now". Nevermind the narrow 2-lane highway with blind curves, we're going to pedal in the middle of the motherfucking road instead of on the adjacent parallel bike path. Are you in the St. George Utah area? I swear the mouth breathing bikers are drawn to that area and refuse to use the bike paths that city has provided for them. |
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Posted: 9/27/2014 3:21:52 PM EDT
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Yeah, how dare they not consider something so important as a marathon while planning their trivial task of moving goods and materials from A to B. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They stopped the train? Marathons are generally yearly, and thus planned very, very far in advance. Whoever scheduled that train to be there at that time is the one who fucked up, not the runners of the race. Yeah, how dare they not consider something so important as a marathon while planning their trivial task of moving goods and materials from A to B. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Seriously. #@$% marathons, use a park, sidewalks or learn to run on *gasp* dirt. Don't shut down entire streets like a Critical Mass event
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Posted: 9/27/2014 3:28:41 PM EDT
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why cant they just run around a track and see who can go the most times, its the same thing and no trains, cars, airplanes, goats or isis to worry about........
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Posted: 9/27/2014 3:36:09 PM EDT
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Now with a slight obstacle course.
  But a young supervisor thought he had more time than what he really did to get the train through, Goldman said, and made a decision that ended up being a bad call. Goldman said the railroad intends to look closer at what happened, especially because nothing like it has happened during his time at the railroad — and he is confident that there will not be similar incidents in the future. Andy Pajakowski, a race organizer, tried to negotiate with railroad personnel on the scene, to no avail. Eventually, the train blew a long blast from its horn and started to move forward with runners in the vicinity. |
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Posted: 9/27/2014 3:37:31 PM EDT
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Isn't a marathon 26 miles? Ain't like the train added or subtracted distance to the race.
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Posted: 9/27/2014 3:45:44 PM EDT
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Lol. That sucks.
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Posted: 9/27/2014 3:47:45 PM EDT
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I assume the rail company owns the land that the tracks are on. Their tracks, their rules.
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Posted: 9/27/2014 3:54:11 PM EDT
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Isn't a marathon 26 miles? Ain't like the train added or subtracted distance to the race. 26.2 miles- lot of runners take their time VERY seriously... Wife and I did NYC in '94- my time was 4:38- it took nearly 20 minutes to cross the start line after the gun went off. Just to be there and finish was awsome- first and last full marathon for me..... But yeah, there's an entitlement attitude among a lot of runners- not so much in the back of the pack.....
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Posted: 9/27/2014 3:54:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/27/2014 4:03:10 PM EDT
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Vinny Gambini: Does that freight train come through here at 5:00 A.M. every morning?
Hotel Clerk: No, sir, it's very unusual. Vinny Gambini: [the next day, after Vinny was awakened by the train] Yesterday you told me that freight train hardly ever comes through here at 5:00 A.M. in the morning. Hotel Clerk: I know. She's supposed to come through at ten after 4:00. |
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Posted: 9/27/2014 4:11:32 PM EDT
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Those faggoty assholes shouldn't be allowed to use the roads unless they get registration and pay road tax!
Roads are for cars, not runners. Bicyclists riding down a street blocking traffic is hardly the same as a planned and cordoned off running route. The same for a cordoned off bike race.  Good try though
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Posted: 9/27/2014 4:15:25 PM EDT
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wow, what a train wreck. Those ass holes derailed that marathon. Those runners were just chugging along. 
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Posted: 9/27/2014 4:26:58 PM EDT
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The trains "inconvenienced" a marathon? And some folks are pissing and moaning over it? Marathon was planned well in advance? Sounds like piss poor planning considering the goddamn tracks were already there for at least the better part of a fucking century so it wasn't like the event planners couldn't plan a route that avoided the damn tracks; I mean the tracks were only hiding out in plain fucking sight. Fucking crayon eating mother fuckers.
If you're going to bitch about something, at least bitch about the right things. |
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Posted: 9/27/2014 4:53:45 PM EDT
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The trains "inconvenienced" a marathon? And some folks are pissing and moaning over it? Marathon was planned well in advance? Sounds like piss poor planning considering the goddamn tracks were already there for at least the better part of a fucking century so it wasn't like the event planners couldn't plan a route that avoided the damn tracks; I mean the tracks were only hiding out in plain fucking sight. Fucking crayon eating mother fuckers. If you're going to bitch about something, at least bitch about the right things. 
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Posted: 9/27/2014 4:57:12 PM EDT
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Ooops.
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Posted: 9/27/2014 4:58:20 PM EDT
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Woman up front with her arms up in a WTF? moment. Guy in the gray turns right, "Fuck this, I can run and beat the train." |
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Posted: 9/27/2014 5:00:17 PM EDT
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Bicyclists riding down a street blocking traffic is hardly the same as a planned and cordoned off running route. The same for a cordoned off bike race. Good try thoughQuote HistoryQuoted:
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Those faggoty assholes shouldn't be allowed to use the roads unless they get registration and pay road tax!
Roads are for cars, not runners. Bicyclists riding down a street blocking traffic is hardly the same as a planned and cordoned off running route. The same for a cordoned off bike race. Good try thoughThat sounds like faggot runner talk. Show us your nipple tape, poser.
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Posted: 9/27/2014 5:01:38 PM EDT
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Now with a slight obstacle course.
http://dgc27lrrryz1d.cloudfront.net/assets/local_story_media/Runners-derailed_1411820763/20140928cr_marathon_train_07al.jpg But a young supervisor thought he had more time than what he really did to get the train through, Goldman said, and made a decision that ended up being a bad call. Goldman said the railroad intends to look closer at what happened, especially because nothing like it has happened during his time at the railroad — and he is confident that there will not be similar incidents in the future. Andy Pajakowski, a race organizer, tried to negotiate with railroad personnel on the scene, to no avail. Eventually, the train blew a long blast from its horn and started to move forward with runners in the vicinity. Single long blast prior to forward movement? Weird. |
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Posted: 9/27/2014 5:05:48 PM EDT
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I put marathon runners in the same fucked up category as bicycle riders
I hope to God that train didn't stop for those idiots and that it just happened to be parked there. |
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Posted: 9/27/2014 5:07:49 PM EDT
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Getting the Boston Qualified(BQ) time doesn't mean it will get in it anymore. They need a BQ-1:02 for next year.
Thank god I got in with a BQ-4:54 for 2015. This would have definitely suck. |
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Posted: 9/27/2014 5:11:44 PM EDT
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The trains "inconvenienced" a marathon? And some folks are pissing and moaning over it? Marathon was planned well in advance? Sounds like piss poor planning considering the goddamn tracks were already there for at least the better part of a fucking century so it wasn't like the event planners couldn't plan a route that avoided the damn tracks; I mean the tracks were only hiding out in plain fucking sight. Fucking crayon eating mother fuckers. If you're going to bitch about something, at least bitch about the right things. Quote HistoryQuoted:
The trains "inconvenienced" a marathon? And some folks are pissing and moaning over it? Marathon was planned well in advance? Sounds like piss poor planning considering the goddamn tracks were already there for at least the better part of a fucking century so it wasn't like the event planners couldn't plan a route that avoided the damn tracks; I mean the tracks were only hiding out in plain fucking sight. Fucking crayon eating mother fuckers. If you're going to bitch about something, at least bitch about the right things. Paul Moore: It must be nice to always believe you know better, to always think you're the smartest person in the room. Jane Craig: No. It's awful. READ THE FUCKING ARTICLE. ar-jedi |
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Posted: 9/27/2014 5:12:24 PM EDT
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good trolling
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Posted: 9/27/2014 5:14:41 PM EDT
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Then the runners were stupid. Fair enough. But it sounds as if the train conductor was a fucking prick for pushing through when he shouldn't have and fucking up an event that was likely planned a year in advance. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why? The train appears to be stopped and those people are pressing on to finish their marathon. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile The train only stopped because he was forced to, the runners were crossing in front of it. Then the runners were stupid. Fair enough. But it sounds as if the train conductor was a fucking prick for pushing through when he shouldn't have and fucking up an event that was likely planned a year in advance. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile If they were not informed by the dispatcher to stop and wait for the runners, then they are obligated to keep moving as long as the situation is safe for them to do so. Sounds like the railroad's dispatch center dropped the ball, or someone within the railroad did not pass the request for a traffic window to handle the race on to the dispatchers. This is a similar situation where the train was not told to stop outside of town and they plowed into the parade float with all the disabled veterans on board at the grade crossing in the middle of town. |
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Posted: 9/27/2014 5:16:08 PM EDT
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Meh, trains piss me off around my work when they stop or go really slow on the tracks.
They'd ought to be fined for impeding traffic when they do that, just like I would be if I stopped my car in the middle of the road to unload it. Oh, and these races are planned and permitted in advance, and the roads are cordoned off. I don't see how you can compare that with road cyclists. |
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Posted: 9/27/2014 5:17:45 PM EDT
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[If they were not informed by the dispatcher to stop and wait for the runners, then they are obligated to keep moving as long as the situation is safe for them to do so. Sounds like the railroad's dispatch center dropped the ball, or someone within the railroad did not pass the request for a traffic window to handle the race on to the dispatchers.. Quote HistoryQuoted:
[If they were not informed by the dispatcher to stop and wait for the runners, then they are obligated to keep moving as long as the situation is safe for them to do so. Sounds like the railroad's dispatch center dropped the ball, or someone within the railroad did not pass the request for a traffic window to handle the race on to the dispatchers.. perhaps the OP's linked article contains important, relevant information? such as: A train rolled across the marathon course less than 20 minutes after the 7:30 a.m. start as it crossed through Mill Race Park by Lindsey Street, just as waves of marathon and half-marathon runners were approaching. That wasn't the plan, according to race organizers and railroad officials. Bartholomew County Emergency Operations Center Director Ed Reuter said marathon organizers had been assured by the Louisville & Indiana Railroad that no trains would come through. They had communicated back and forth for months leading up to race day. "We always cooperate and stop train traffic," said John Goldman, Louisville & Indiana Railroad president. "That was our intent this morning as well." The plan was for the train to go through before the race, Mayor Kristen Brown said. But a young supervisor thought he had more time than what he really did to get the train through, Goldman said, and made a decision that ended up being a bad call. Goldman said the railroad intends to look closer at what happened, especially because nothing like it has happened during his time at the railroad — and he is confident that there will not be similar incidents in the future. |
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