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Posted: 9/20/2009 5:39:23 PM EDT
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Someone with your avatar and those dogs.
 
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Posted: 9/20/2009 5:41:37 PM EDT
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I used to work for an old man that grew up on a ranch in the Dakotas. He said he used to shoot rattle snakes in the head all the time. He said they were easy to hit in the head because if you used low velocity .22 and aimed for their head from the right distance they would strike at the bullet. did he have his shit waders on when telling this story? he sure needed them... |
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Posted: 9/20/2009 5:41:46 PM EDT
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Say hello to my little friend: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/PanzerOfDoom/066.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/PanzerOfDoom/063.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/PanzerOfDoom/060.jpg Six rounds from a .22 cal revolver, no dice, still tried to strike. The shovel is king. Once again, my mini-dauschunds found it started barking. I will never forget the sound of a Rattlesnake pissed at me, kinda makes the hair stand up on the back of your neck. Could you post pictures of your dachshunds, please?
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http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af98/SASM-7/Red.jpg My crew, the Scotty killed a Cottonmouth this year, the red hund found a Cottonmouth last year and she also found this one. Very smart, barks and did not attack both times. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/PanzerOfDoom/P1010007.jpg I love dachshunds, they are very intelligent and loyal dogs.
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Posted: 9/20/2009 5:47:10 PM EDT
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Dude, I busted up a nest of rats last year, those Daschund chased and annihilated all of them, ever hear rats scream? I have, Dashunds are friggin killers, I shit you not. They are fearless, they don't understand the whole, I'm only 10 pounds thing.
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Posted: 9/20/2009 6:07:41 PM EDT
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Quoted: Dude, I busted up a nest of rats last year, those Daschund chased and annihilated all of them, ever hear rats scream? I have, Dashunds are friggin killers, I shit you not. They are fearless, they don't understand the whole, I'm only 10 pounds thing. Daschund is German for badger dog. They're bred to go in after a badger. Anything that'll go head first into hole after a badger has HUGE balls. |
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Posted: 9/20/2009 6:37:23 PM EDT
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Rattlesnake are so evil. All they think about is who, or what they can bite next.
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Posted: 9/20/2009 6:42:45 PM EDT
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Doesn't anyone use .308 anymore
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Posted: 9/20/2009 6:47:43 PM EDT
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#12 shot in .22 RF shells is best with the rosette crimped shells, not the blue plastic shells from CCI. From a pistol, they won't make much of a dent in scales of a snake. From a purpose-built smooth-bored .22 RF like the Garden Gun, they are quite effective at up to 20 feet.
The little pellets don't have much velocity from a short revolver barrel and are only good for mice at 10 feet. |
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Posted: 9/20/2009 6:51:03 PM EDT
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Rattlesnake are so evil. All they think about is who, or what they can bite next. http://static.dailystrength.org/userfiles/2/2/3/8/48322/pg_1491511909.jpg OK, THAT is just Nuckin' Futs!
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Posted: 9/20/2009 6:53:19 PM EDT
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Rattlesnake are so evil. All they think about is who, or what they can bite next. http://static.dailystrength.org/userfiles/2/2/3/8/48322/pg_1491511909.jpg With dogs and Grandkids running around in my backyard, pit vipers die. Trust me I see allot of snakes in the yard and only 2 have been killed this year. I see Glass snakes(Big legless lizards) daily. Garter snakes and the occasional Corn Snake every so often. Don't like to upset the eco-system in the yard but when it involves the family becoming part of it I hop right to the top of the food chain where I belong. |
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Posted: 9/20/2009 6:57:15 PM EDT
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Rattlesnake are so evil. All they think about is who, or what they can bite next. http://static.dailystrength.org/userfiles/2/2/3/8/48322/pg_1491511909.jpg If you do that on a regular daily basis I absofuckinglutely gdamguarantee that you will end up in an ER someday from after being bitten. Snakes do not have any brain power to speak of. They act on instinct and preprogrammed reflex. Eventually you will do something that the snake percieves as a threat and your ass will then be royally screwed. |
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Posted: 9/20/2009 7:01:08 PM EDT
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Why can't people just shoot snakes with bullets?
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Posted: 9/20/2009 7:06:00 PM EDT
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The only thing .22 shotshells are good for is to use in a .22 that has had the last 10'' of barrel reamed out with a drill to be a smoothbore. Then, shoot woodboring and bumblebees to your heart's content.
Edit- Though most people who shoot at snakes look like this 
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Posted: 9/20/2009 7:14:58 PM EDT
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Quoted: I will never forget the sound of a Rattlesnake pissed at me, kinda makes the hair stand up on the back of your neck. You should hear it when you've got a real good 4am beer buzz going on. It was about 3-4 feet away, and I was high stepping like I was at the Grambling Drum Major try outs! |
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Posted: 9/20/2009 7:21:43 PM EDT
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Quoted: Rattlesnake are so evil. All they think about is who, or what they can bite next. http://static.dailystrength.org/userfiles/2/2/3/8/48322/pg_1491511909.jpg How many hours a week do you train for the Darwin Award? It's not the odds. It's the stakes. |
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Posted: 9/20/2009 7:25:35 PM EDT
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.22 shotshells are not worthless. You know those things will bite even after their head has been cut off right?
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Posted: 9/20/2009 7:26:59 PM EDT
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Rattlesnake are so evil. All they think about is who, or what they can bite next. http://static.dailystrength.org/userfiles/2/2/3/8/48322/pg_1491511909.jpg Oh boy, that snake isn't still hot is it? |
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Posted: 9/20/2009 7:28:41 PM EDT
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Rattlesnake are so evil. All they think about is who, or what they can bite next. http://static.dailystrength.org/userfiles/2/2/3/8/48322/pg_1491511909.jpg Oh boy, that snake isn't still hot is it? Only if he just got it off the grill.....snakes are cold blooded and assume the temperature of their environement.
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Posted: 9/20/2009 7:33:27 PM EDT
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Rattlesnake are so evil. All they think about is who, or what they can bite next. http://static.dailystrength.org/userfiles/2/2/3/8/48322/pg_1491511909.jpg WTF? HOLY SHIT. 
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Posted: 9/20/2009 7:34:15 PM EDT
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Rattlesnake are so evil. All they think about is who, or what they can bite next. http://static.dailystrength.org/userfiles/2/2/3/8/48322/pg_1491511909.jpg Oh boy, that snake isn't still hot is it? Only if he just got it off the grill.....snakes are cold blooded and assume the temperature of their environement.
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Posted: 9/20/2009 7:42:14 PM EDT
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Rattlesnake are so evil. All they think about is who, or what they can bite next. http://static.dailystrength.org/userfiles/2/2/3/8/48322/pg_1491511909.jpg Oh boy, that snake isn't still hot is it? Only if he just got it off the grill.....snakes are cold blooded and assume the temperature of their environement.
I think he meant was it defanged/devenomized whatever the term. Yeah, I am wondering if it has had it's venom glands removed- that thing is big enough to yield about four lethal doses of venom (it's a red diamond rattlesnake for anyone that is wondering). |
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Posted: 9/20/2009 7:45:50 PM EDT
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You need a Taurus judge
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Posted: 9/20/2009 7:49:09 PM EDT
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Quoted: Rattlesnake are so evil. All they think about is who, or what they can bite next. http://static.dailystrength.org/userfiles/2/2/3/8/48322/pg_1491511909.jpg What in the name of Zeus' BUTHOLE, do you think you are doing? |
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Posted: 9/20/2009 7:49:17 PM EDT
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Are their rattle snakes in TN? Yep, plenty of timber rattlers in east TN at elevations above 3000 ft OP, try 38/357 shotshells next time I tried some 357 shot shells on a large water snake quite a few years ago just to test they're performance. 6 rounds full of fail. I finished it off with a SWC. I also came uppon a large timber rattler while grouse hunting with my labradors a couple years ago. 20ga. doesn't fail! I believe a well aimed shot from a 22lr would work fine too. |
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Posted: 9/20/2009 7:51:44 PM EDT
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I roll my own snake shot in .357/.38 shot cups. I cut open #4 buck and #7.5 bird shot and put two pellets of #4 in the cup and then fill with #7 until it's level with the top and then seal it shut. Of course since concocting this mixture a snake hasn't dare show its face. 
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Posted: 9/20/2009 7:52:20 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Are their rattle snakes in TN? Yep, plenty of timber rattlers in east TN at elevations above 3000 ft OP, try 38/357 shotshells next time I tried some 357 shot shells on a large water snake quite a few years ago just to test they're performance. 6 rounds full of fail. I finished it off with a SWC. I also came uppon a large timber rattler while grouse hunting with my labradors a couple years ago. 20ga. doesn't fail! I believe a well aimed shot from a 22lr would work fine too. I've used 44 spl shot shells to great effect. When I was 8 my grandfather took me out in the yard when I saw a BIG rattler by a tree. He gave me the 12 gauge and had me shoot it. It was over 6' without the head. |
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Posted: 9/20/2009 7:53:51 PM EDT
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Quoted: Rattlesnake are so evil. All they think about is who, or what they can bite next. http://static.dailystrength.org/userfiles/2/2/3/8/48322/pg_1491511909.jpg This is a majorly cool pic. You obviously know this snake very well, and vice versa. Having had snakes in the past, I know for a fact that the assertion that snakes have no brain power is BS, propagated by people with no direct knowledge of the subject. One of my snakes, a Columbian redtail boa about 8' long, was a social animal that liked being handled. I could take him out in public, and he would draw a crowd of people wanting to hold him. After awhile though, he would decide he had enough, so he would make a beeline across people's shoulders directly back to me. I had other snakes that would hiss and/or bite if anyone other than me touched them. Back on topic, though: I have found CCI .22 LR shotshells to work well in my Charter Pathfinder, my Ruger Single-Six, and other revolvers. I have killed many rats, snakes, and even a couple 'possums with them, within 10 feet. In my experience they hold a fairly tight pattern from a revolver, but not so much from a rifle. In fact, I have had better results from these (and the same in .22 Mag.) than CCI .38 Special shotshells. Also, I had a .410 shotshell derringer, and got rid of it because it was utterly worthless. At 5 feet, it might put one or two holes in a drink can. The absolute best, OTOH, are my handloaded .45 Long Colt shotshells, made up on shortened (cylinder-length) .303 Brit cases. |
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Posted: 9/20/2009 7:58:00 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Say hello to my little friend: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/PanzerOfDoom/066.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/PanzerOfDoom/063.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/PanzerOfDoom/060.jpg Six rounds from a .22 cal revolver, no dice, still tried to strike. The shovel is king. Once again, my mini-dauschunds found it started barking. I will never forget the sound of a Rattlesnake pissed at me, kinda makes the hair stand up on the back of your neck. Could you post pictures of your dachshunds, please? Here is mine... http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af98/SASM-7/Red.jpg Dachshund pic thread? Full size long haired and a short hair mini brindle:  The big guy is almost 16 years old. |
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Posted: 9/20/2009 8:09:10 PM EDT
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Rattlesnake are so evil. All they think about is who, or what they can bite next. http://static.dailystrength.org/userfiles/2/2/3/8/48322/pg_1491511909.jpg This is a majorly cool pic. You obviously know this snake very well, and vice versa. Having had snakes in the past, I know for a fact that the assertion that snakes have no brain power is BS, propagated by people with no direct knowledge of the subject.One of my snakes, a Columbian redtail boa about 8' long, was a social animal that liked being handled. I could take him out in public, and he would draw a crowd of people wanting to hold him. After awhile though, he would decide he had enough, so he would make a beeline across people's shoulders directly back to me. I had other snakes that would hiss and/or bite if anyone other than me touched them. Back on topic, though: I have found CCI .22 LR shotshells to work well in my Charter Pathfinder, my Ruger Single-Six, and other revolvers. I have killed many rats, snakes, and even a couple 'possums with them, within 10 feet. In my experience they hold a fairly tight pattern from a revolver, but not so much from a rifle. In fact, I have had better results from these (and the same in .22 Mag.) than CCI .38 Special shotshells. Also, I had a .410 shotshell derringer, and got rid of it because it was utterly worthless. At 5 feet, it might put one or two holes in a drink can. The absolute best, OTOH, are my handloaded .45 Long Colt shotshells, made up on shortened (cylinder-length) .303 Brit cases. I stated that snakes have "very little" brain power and act mostly on instinct and reflexive programing. As for the "knowledge" factor...... prior to getting my degree in my current profession I was a natural science major. Meaning I studied biology and other such sciences extensively. I stand by my assertion....snakes have very very little rational thought capability. The learning that some can demonstrate is not thinking....just the result of positive/negative association skills that most of the animal kingdom has to one extent or another. If that snake has fangs and venom eventually the snakes owner is going to get bitten. |
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Posted: 9/20/2009 8:13:13 PM EDT
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.45 acp shotshell carries a nice punch....will knock over a 5 gallon bucket from 6 feet. but it can't cycle for crap...why does cci make them flat up front and designed to crack as well?
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Posted: 9/20/2009 8:36:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ––bullseye––:
Dachshund pic thread? Full size long haired and a mini brindle: http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r88/_bullseye_/RalphGordy058-1.jpg The big guy is almost 16 years old. Awesome pic.
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Posted: 9/20/2009 8:40:13 PM EDT
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Rattlesnake are so evil. All they think about is who, or what they can bite next. http://static.dailystrength.org/userfiles/2/2/3/8/48322/pg_1491511909.jpg This is a majorly cool pic. You obviously know this snake very well, and vice versa. Having had snakes in the past, I know for a fact that the assertion that snakes have no brain power is BS, propagated by people with no direct knowledge of the subject.One of my snakes, a Columbian redtail boa about 8' long, was a social animal that liked being handled. I could take him out in public, and he would draw a crowd of people wanting to hold him. After awhile though, he would decide he had enough, so he would make a beeline across people's shoulders directly back to me. I had other snakes that would hiss and/or bite if anyone other than me touched them. Back on topic, though: I have found CCI .22 LR shotshells to work well in my Charter Pathfinder, my Ruger Single-Six, and other revolvers. I have killed many rats, snakes, and even a couple 'possums with them, within 10 feet. In my experience they hold a fairly tight pattern from a revolver, but not so much from a rifle. In fact, I have had better results from these (and the same in .22 Mag.) than CCI .38 Special shotshells. Also, I had a .410 shotshell derringer, and got rid of it because it was utterly worthless. At 5 feet, it might put one or two holes in a drink can. The absolute best, OTOH, are my handloaded .45 Long Colt shotshells, made up on shortened (cylinder-length) .303 Brit cases. I stated that snakes have "very little" brain power and act mostly on instinct and reflexive programing. As for the "knowledge" factor...... prior to getting my degree in my current profession I was a natural science major. Meaning I studied biology and other such sciences extensively. I stand by my assertion....snakes have very very little rational thought capability. The learning that some can demonstrate is not thinking....just the result of positive/negative association skills that most of the animal kingdom has to one extent or another. If that snake has fangs and venom eventually the snakes owner is going to get bitten. Yep. They aren't evil and looking for someone to bite. They want to be left alone. Their reactions are rather like a simple computer with modes most of the time. In captivity they'll show that there is a little more going on under the hood than most people think, but not much. You startle an animal like that and there is a decent chance it will light you up. A lot of people read the statistics, 8000 bites a year, 8-10 people killed, almost all caused by rattlesnakes. They think they'll be be OK if something goes wrong. Guess how many are nailed by rattlesnakes as big as the one in the pic, almost none. Take a good hit from a snake like that and you won't be OK, you might not live, no matter the statistics. Never mind the fact that it is big enough and has long enough fangs to deliver an intravenous injection, which can kill in minutes. Maybe it is a troll photo, or a venomoid. If not, it is someone playing with more fire than they comprehend. Responsible snake keepers don't pull that shit, that photo isn't cool, it is fail. |
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Posted: 9/20/2009 8:49:52 PM EDT
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Oh yeah, and here is one that has gone into defense mode. I photographed it in the wild in Riverside Co. CA. Not too cuddly.
Don't fuck around with rattlesnakes, as adults they are almost universally capable of delivering a potentially lethal bite. |
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Posted: 9/20/2009 9:07:28 PM EDT
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dbl tap
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Posted: 9/20/2009 9:07:58 PM EDT
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What in the name of Zeus' BUTHOLE, do you think you are doing?
I have to remember that one! 
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Posted: 9/20/2009 9:12:06 PM EDT
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Rattlesnake are so evil. All they think about is who, or what they can bite next. http://static.dailystrength.org/userfiles/2/2/3/8/48322/pg_1491511909.jpg I seriously just broke into a cold sweat looking at that picture. HOLY SHIT doesn't describe my reaction to it enough.
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Posted: 9/20/2009 9:14:00 PM EDT
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Rattlesnake are so evil. All they think about is who, or what they can bite next. http://static.dailystrength.org/userfiles/2/2/3/8/48322/pg_1491511909.jpg I seriously just broke into a cold sweat looking at that picture. HOLY SHIT doesn't describe my reaction to it enough. DO NOT WANT |
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Posted: 9/20/2009 9:16:59 PM EDT
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I got a bird sitting on my backyard fence once with .22 snakeshot. It was DRT.
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Posted: 9/20/2009 9:19:52 PM EDT
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Are their rattle snakes in TN? Yes. http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8408/crotalushorridusmap.jpg I've never heard of a rattlesnake on Long Island! |
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Posted: 9/20/2009 9:20:56 PM EDT
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We test fired .22 rat shot out of a rifle at a distance of about 20 feet. We shot at a LATEX BALLOON. It didnt even pop the balloon. I know we hit it, because I could see the balloon move as the little pellets bounced off of it.
I dont see how that crap could be effective against anything except for june bugs at point blank range. |
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Posted: 9/20/2009 9:26:13 PM EDT
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The shot shells for my .45colt seem to work good. So do the custom ones my uncle makes for .38 and .357, of course those he makes aren't rat shot. He puts 3 #1 Buckshot in the shells with buffer.
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Posted: 9/20/2009 9:55:58 PM EDT
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Quoted: #12 shot in .22 RF shells is best with the rosette crimped shells, not the blue plastic shells from CCI. From a pistol, they won't make much of a dent in scales of a snake. From a purpose-built smooth-bored .22 RF like the Garden Gun, they are quite effective at up to 20 feet. The little pellets don't have much velocity from a short revolver barrel and are only good for mice at 10 feet. And once again, he's right on the money. Winchester > CCI |
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Posted: 9/20/2009 10:08:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ––bullseye––:
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Say hello to my little friend: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/PanzerOfDoom/066.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/PanzerOfDoom/063.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/PanzerOfDoom/060.jpg Six rounds from a .22 cal revolver, no dice, still tried to strike. The shovel is king. Once again, my mini-dauschunds found it started barking. I will never forget the sound of a Rattlesnake pissed at me, kinda makes the hair stand up on the back of your neck. Could you post pictures of your dachshunds, please?
Here is mine...
http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af98/SASM-7/Red.jpg Dachshund pic thread? Full size long haired and a short hair mini brindle: http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r88/_bullseye_/RalphGordy058-1.jpg The big guy is almost 16 years old. That is approaching toxic levels of cuteness overload. Also, I shot some .22 shot from my rifle at an empty beer can at point-blank range (no safely lectures please - complicated to explain the arrangement, but it was done mostly safely) - it did not exit the opposite side of the can. Had a nice can full of 22 shot. |
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Posted: 9/20/2009 10:19:28 PM EDT
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Rattlesnake are so evil. All they think about is who, or what they can bite next. http://static.dailystrength.org/userfiles/2/2/3/8/48322/pg_1491511909.jpg That's nice... I don't kill snakes out in the desert, not messing with anyone....I leave them the hell alone... But that's just fucking nuts dude...your going to get bit one of these days |
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Posted: 9/20/2009 10:33:00 PM EDT
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Just for kicks tonight I patterned a couple of CCI shotshells through a Taurus .22 revolver with ~6" barrel. First shot was about an 8" spread from 6 or 7 feet with very low density holes. Second shot looked like it could have been a kill shot on a snake with about a 3 or 4" spread and a decent density in the middle but it was from about 3 feet... probably closer than I'd want to get to a snake and be shooting at it.
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Posted: 9/20/2009 10:41:12 PM EDT
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Crazy people, going nearby a venomous snake, only with .22cal snake shot at hand.
I'd pepper those snakes from 15-20 yards away with 8-15 rounds of 12 gauge birdshot. If it must be a handgun with a snake shot, 44mag is the only way to go 
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Posted: 9/20/2009 10:53:48 PM EDT
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Even with .38 cal snake shot the plastic casing probably is what kills him! The shovel or a good club is #1 snake killer!
Bob
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Posted: 9/20/2009 10:58:30 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Are their rattle snakes in TN? Yes. http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8408/crotalushorridusmap.jpg I've never heard of a rattlesnake on Long Island! Sure you have. Does Charles Schumer ring a bell. |
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Posted: 9/20/2009 11:23:01 PM EDT
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Rattlesnake are so evil. All they think about is who, or what they can bite next. http://static.dailystrength.org/userfiles/2/2/3/8/48322/pg_1491511909.jpg Is that snake de venomed ? |
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Posted: 9/20/2009 11:24:19 PM EDT
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Oh yeah, and here is one that has gone into defense mode. I photographed it in the wild in Riverside Co. CA. Not too cuddly. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/Windustsearch/Cali05049.jpg Don't fuck around with rattlesnakes, as adults they are almost universally capable of delivering a potentially lethal bite. How close are you ? 10 ft ? What kind of distance can they strike from that position ? 3 ft or so ? |
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