Sorry, [b]rkbar15[/b], I think I may have completely misread your original post on this subject!

I apologize to you for jumping to such an unwarranted conclusion.

Eric The(Sorrowful)Hun[>]:)]

You know it just cracks me up for people to be so brained washed in ther politcal correct thinking to even have one thought that this act by this "Egytian Muslim", was a "HATE CRIME"!

You people should be ashamed of yourselves. You have definetly been brainwashed by the liberal mind set and all there ways of labeling things!

Our nation is under attack everyday by well lets look at the people shall we:

Middle eastern people men,women,children, and if you think it is not women and children you are definetly blind.

Any idividual whether it be white,black,brown, or what ever color of person, that is of the Islamic Faith that believes in the fundamental extremist views of Islam.

These people have clearly stated over and over again that they are going to kill Americans and Israelis all throught the world.

There is no debate it was an act of terrorism, just like The Hun said are you going to sit on your airy dare and wait for the FBI to say well it is an act of hate crime because of such and such.

[size=4]Maybe the United States Definition for an act of Terrorism is wrong?[/size=4]

[size=4]Maybe all you who would disagree and say that this was a hate crime have been brainwashed into thinking so?[/size=4]

[size=4] Maybe the Israelis have been dealing with such acts for so long that they are experts at being able to determine what is an act of terrorism and what is not![/size=4]

And what in the world is a hate crime? Were did that term come from anyway?

[size=4]Oh I think it came from the oh my goodness the "Liberals in america"!!!!!![/size=4]

Come on people think and use your brain, instead of the government useing it for you.

A person does not need to be part of an organized group to commit an act of terrorism when they are of muslim decent and/or are a believer in Islam. They can and are incoraged to act alone, this way it does not connect the act to any specific group, maybe this is away to take advantage of a weekness in our judicial system! Ever thought about that?  

There are decrease that have gone out from Hezbula,PLO, and Al Queda that have said for people of the Islamic faith to go and kill people that are American and Israeli. A decree just went out a few days before the fourth of july from Hezbula for people to attack american and Israeli targets around the world,LAX was a two for one deal.  So They do not need to be part of these organizations to follow these orders that have gone out, all they need to do is hear about any specific decree that has gone out and act upon it and do the killing! That is all!

People should be outraged and be protesting all across America saying that this act was and is an act of terrorism, nothing more, and nothing less. The government is counting on people to just believe them and not use there own brains and rights to protest and call this act what it really is,

An Act of TERRORISM.

WAKE UP, BECAUSE AN ACT LIKE THIS WILL HAPPEN AGAIN, EXCEPT THIS TIME IT COULD BE IN A RESTURAUNT,A BAR,A MOVIE THEATER, A SHOPPING MALL, A HOSPITAL, YOUR LOCAL FAST FOOD JOINT.

These muslim extremist have a plan, and they are not concerned about our American laws prohibiting them from doing there acts. Our american laws actually make it easiear for them to do there acts, So wake up terorrism is here and it has many faces, not just one in which our government would like for us to believe!

Here is an excellent commentary from an LAPD officer on why this shooting was a terrorist act:

[size=5]LAX Scene[/size=5]
[b]The dog-and-pony nonsense on the Fourth.[/b]

It is axiomatic among police officers and detectives — the cops who actually do the work that cops are supposed to do — that the more brass that shows up at your crime scene, the more difficult it will be to do your job. If what occurred at Los Angeles International Airport last Thursday had instead taken place just a few miles to the east, in South Central Los Angeles, the highest-ranking cop to respond would have been a lieutenant, one who would understand that his role was to stay out of the way of the dozen or so cops who would be trying to get a handle on things.

But because the shooting happened at LAX, on the Fourth of July, what the world saw unfolding on live television was a dog-and-pony show of the first order, one featuring the LAPD's chief, three deputy chiefs, assorted commanders and captains, and all their retinues of toadies, lackeys, and hangers-on. And every one of these people felt the need to put his imprint on the flow of events and demonstrate his expertise in handling such matters, which expertise, as is well known to those of us who toil in the trenches of law enforcement, is next to nil. There came a series of conflicting and often nonsensical orders that resulted in hundreds of police officers wasting their time and thousands of travelers being inconvenienced far beyond what was necessary. Adding to the confusion were the chief and command staff of the LAX Police Department (which is independent from the LAPD), and a hastily assembled platoon of agents from the FBI, Customs, Immigration and Naturalization, and every other federal agency operating at the airport.

And when the FBI took control of the investigation and learned a few things about the gunman, what did they reveal to an anxious public? [b]They didn't know why the guy did it. A headline in Saturday's Los Angeles Times read, "FBI Still Seeks Motive in LAX Shootings." The story reported that the FBI was "trying to figure out if the gunman, Hesham Mohamed Hadayet, might have been despondent, suicidal, motivated by ethnic hatred — or a combination of all of those factors." Bureau spokesman Matt McLaughlin said terrorism "certainly can't be ruled out."[/b]

Well, bully for Special Agent McLaughlin for going way out on a limb and taking such a controversial stance. Some may think it impertinent that I, at my lowly station in the law-enforcement hierarchy, should question the wisdom of the exalted Federal Bureau of Investigation, but an examination of what was already known about Hadayet on Thursday afternoon should offer sufficient clues as to what motivated his murderous rampage.

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[b]Hadayet was an immigrant from Egypt. He was a devout Muslim, and had a bumper sticker reading "Read the Koran" on the front door of his Irvine condominium. He objected when his upstairs neighbor had the effrontery to fly the American and Marine Corps flags from his balcony following the September 11 attacks. On the morning of July 4, Hadayet left his home armed with 9-millimeter and .45-caliber handguns as well as a six-inch knife. In his coat pockets he carried extra magazines filled with ammunition for each of the handguns. If he had been motivated solely by the desire to shoot up an airport he might have chosen Orange County's John Wayne Airport, located just a few miles from his home and which he no doubt passed as he drove on the San Diego Freeway toward LAX, another 35 miles to the north. (El Al does not operate from John Wayne Airport.)

On arriving at LAX, with nine passenger terminals to choose from, he parked near the Tom Bradley International Terminal and walked inside. There are ticket counters for more than 30 airlines in the Bradley Terminal, but Hadayet found his way to El Al's, at the far northwest corner of the building, and began shooting. He killed two people and wounded five others before being shot and killed by an El Al security guard.[/b]

Is there a sentient being on earth who, when presented with these facts, would not conclude that Hadayet left home that morning with no other intent but to kill as many Jews as possible? If he had not been so quickly subdued, if every one of the bullets he carried had found a Jewish victim, would authorities still be as reluctant to label Hadayet a terrorist? Even if the FBI can establish no links between Hadayet and any known terrorist organization — and they claim to have found no such links thus far — he is no less of a terrorist than if he had worn a kuffiyeh on his head and carried Yasser Arafat's home telephone number in his wallet.

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The shootings have of course provoked the usual hysteria over guns, with gun-control advocates conveniently forgetting that it was an armed civilian who prevented Hadayet from shooting even more victims. We have also heard calls for changes to airport security measures, such as moving the screening stations to some location away from the terminals, thereby creating a safe zone within the entire airport itself. This may sound attractive until one remembers that in a recent test of security precautions at 32 major airports around the country, screeners failed to detect an average of 25 percent of the simulated bombs and weapons carried through checkpoints by testers. [b]At LAX the failure rate was an appalling 41 percent. And if Mr. Hadayet had been required to pass through security, as a man of Middle Eastern descent he no doubt would have sailed through with a handshake and a slap on the back lest the screeners give the appearance of engaging in racial profiling[/b]. Instead they would have busied themselves rifling the belongings of old women, young children, and former vice presidents.

We should mourn those who were killed in the attack and pray for the speedy recovery of the wounded, but we can be thankful that for Mr. Hadayet justice was swift, sure, and final. I suspect that by now he has discovered that the hereafter will not measure up to his golden expectations.

— Jack Dunphy is an officer in the Los Angeles Police Department. "Jack Dunphy" is the author's nom de cyber. The opinions expressed are his own and almost certainly do not reflect those of the LAPD management.

See article at:[url]http://www.nationalreview.com/dunphy/dunphy070802.asp[/url]

Eric The(Reasonable)Hun[>]:)]