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Posted: 11/3/2009 6:55:37 PM EDT

[#1]

I believe that the Saudi justice system has its flaws, the rate of recidivism for those convicted of violent crime is pretty much 0%.

Posted: 11/3/2009 6:56:38 PM EDT

[#2]

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You all are fucked in the head.

Kill the mutherfucker in a more civilized way.

Was the crime he did 'civilized' ?

I'm sorry my backward friend.... don't believe in the Constitution?

Would it be ok to use a nasty exectuion like this if due process is followed and it is DNA evidence that convicts the accused as opposed to torture???

Gee, I guess you missed the part about cruel and unusual punishment.

Try reading something for a change.

Cruel AND Unusual. It can still be either/or as long as it isn't both.

Posted: 11/3/2009 6:57:03 PM EDT

[#3]

Quoted:

I'll just say you're an idiot and leave it at that.

Posted: 11/3/2009 6:57:52 PM EDT

[#4]

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Well lets see here. Maybe some of us do not have $24 at the moment to spend. Secondly This crime happened in Saudi so OUR constitution holds no bearing on how he is put to death. My self I think that we are not hard enough on child molesters. So what if they wanna lop his head off and hang him from the rafters. So you may not agree with how they got the confession or how the court proceeding went they decided that he was going to die so.... They got it right... kill the child rapist and show him off for all to see. The next guy might think twice

The Constitution is not there for your convenience in matters which you simply support. It is not simply there for you to toss aside when your opinions change.

That would make you a LIBERAL.

Believe in it or don't, but if you toss it aside for your emotional crap, don't throw it up talking about your "gun rights".

Posted: 11/3/2009 7:01:17 PM EDT

[#5]

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Well lets see here. Maybe some of us do not have $24 at the moment to spend. Secondly This crime happened in Saudi so OUR constitution holds no bearing on how he is put to death. My self I think that we are not hard enough on child molesters. So what if they wanna lop his head off and hang him from the rafters. So you may not agree with how they got the confession or how the court proceeding went they decided that he was going to die so.... They got it right... kill the child rapist and show him off for all to see. The next guy might think twice

The Constitution is not there for your convenience in matters which you simply support. It is not simply there for you to toss aside when your opinions change.

That would make you a LIBERAL.

Believe in it or don't, but if you toss it aside for your emotional crap, don't throw it up talking about your "gun rights".

Like I said this has nothing to do with the USA. They are in a different country in a different part of the world. US CONSTITUTION HAS NO BEARING THERE. If this were to happen here Different story. SO.....

Posted: 11/3/2009 7:02:16 PM EDT

[#6]

Quoted:
You all are fucked in the head.

Kill the mutherfucker in a more civilized way.

Giant cuisanart?

Posted: 11/3/2009 7:05:50 PM EDT

[#7]

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Sad that the republijoke and demofok lawmakers cant do better.

Thanks for the input brand new poster. $24 too much for you?

First off Zeds, this post is WAY uncalled for.

Notched, don't listen to guys like this. I love to see people supporting this site, heck I've bought memberships for guys down on their luck in the recent past.

But don't buy a membership because some guy gives you crap for it. Support the site if you enjoy it, get something out of it, and maybe even add to it.

That is all.

Posted: 11/3/2009 7:06:17 PM EDT

[#8]

This is actually pre-Islamic tribal norms. Would have happened here just about a hundred years ago. This type of thing happened in the territories and as long as the punishment meet the crime then it was fine.

Posted: 11/3/2009 7:06:41 PM EDT

[#9]

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You all are fucked in the head.

Kill the mutherfucker in a more civilized way.

Yes, since he was SO civilized when he raped those children and left one to die in one of the harshest deserts on the planet.

I'm not allow to kill the guy. That would be illegal.

Abandon the US Constitution if you want, but don't try to use it to your own benefit afterward.

Posted: 11/3/2009 7:07:57 PM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:

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Well lets see here. Maybe some of us do not have $24 at the moment to spend. Secondly This crime happened in Saudi so OUR constitution holds no bearing on how he is put to death. My self I think that we are not hard enough on child molesters. So what if they wanna lop his head off and hang him from the rafters. So you may not agree with how they got the confession or how the court proceeding went they decided that he was going to die so.... They got it right... kill the child rapist and show him off for all to see. The next guy might think twice

The Constitution is not there for your convenience in matters which you simply support. It is not simply there for you to toss aside when your opinions change.

That would make you a LIBERAL.

Believe in it or don't, but if you toss it aside for your emotional crap, don't throw it up talking about your "gun rights".

Like I said this has nothing to do with the USA. They are in a different country in a different part of the world. US CONSTITUTION HAS NO BEARING THERE. If this were to happen here Different story. SO.....

Thats a great reason to abandon all you believe in!

Posted: 11/3/2009 7:09:19 PM EDT

[#11]

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Sad that the republijoke and demofok lawmakers cant do better.

Thanks for the input brand new poster. $24 too much for you?

First off Zeds, this post is WAY uncalled for.

Notched, don't listen to guys like this. I love to see people supporting this site, heck I've bought memberships for guys down on their luck in the recent past.

But don't buy a membership because some guy gives you crap for it. Support the site if you enjoy it, get something out of it, and maybe even add to it.

That is all.

OK, good point.

Though I thought my posts that preceded it explained it well enough.

Posted: 11/3/2009 7:10:22 PM EDT

[#12]

Blind squirrel,ect,ect........

Posted: 11/3/2009 7:10:29 PM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Well lets see here. Maybe some of us do not have $24 at the moment to spend. Secondly This crime happened in Saudi so OUR constitution holds no bearing on how he is put to death. My self I think that we are not hard enough on child molesters. So what if they wanna lop his head off and hang him from the rafters. So you may not agree with how they got the confession or how the court proceeding went they decided that he was going to die so.... They got it right... kill the child rapist and show him off for all to see. The next guy might think twice

The Constitution is not there for your convenience in matters which you simply support. It is not simply there for you to toss aside when your opinions change.

That would make you a LIBERAL.

Believe in it or don't, but if you toss it aside for your emotional crap, don't throw it up talking about your "gun rights".

Like I said this has nothing to do with the USA. They are in a different country in a different part of the world. US CONSTITUTION HAS NO BEARING THERE. If this were to happen here Different story. SO.....

Thats a great reason to abandon all you believe in!

Posted: 11/3/2009 7:12:50 PM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:

Quoted:
You all are fucked in the head.

Kill the mutherfucker in a more civilized way.

Yes, since he was SO civilized when he raped those children and left one to die in one of the harshest deserts on the planet.

I'm not allow to kill the guy. That would be illegal.

Aboandon the US Constitution if you want, but don't try to use it to your own benefit afterward.

You are telling me that Because you are not allowed to kill the guy you are going to use our constitution to influence the way someone else deems it ok to kill this guy. If we started offing Punk ass kiddie rapists here.... Within the the regulations of our constitution would you have a problem with that? When that happens to a child the dirt bag is taking there life. You ever met anyone that has had someone do this to them when they are younger they are not right when they become an adult. so......

Posted: 11/3/2009 7:13:18 PM EDT

[#15]

Golf clap.

Posted: 11/3/2009 7:13:43 PM EDT

[#16]

Sorry, Islam still gets it wrong (and so does the original poster).

Arfcom loves to go on and on (and on and on..) talking about all of the hideous things that should be done to "child rapists", often forgetting that there is a fine line between a "child rapist" and an Arfcommer saying "I'd hit that".

A civilized society meets out punishment rationally upholding rule of law, not irrationally based on emotion. To illustrate another problem with this story- when exactly does said "child" stop becoming the victim in Islamic law, 9? When does this child become the criminal, being punished for "enticing" males into raping him/her by showing their ankle?

Islamic law is ridiculous, and I am glad Arfcom does not run our courts.

Posted: 11/3/2009 7:19:42 PM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Well lets see here. Maybe some of us do not have $24 at the moment to spend. Secondly This crime happened in Saudi so OUR constitution holds no bearing on how he is put to death. My self I think that we are not hard enough on child molesters. So what if they wanna lop his head off and hang him from the rafters. So you may not agree with how they got the confession or how the court proceeding went they decided that he was going to die so.... They got it right... kill the child rapist and show him off for all to see. The next guy might think twice

The Constitution is not there for your convenience in matters which you simply support. It is not simply there for you to toss aside when your opinions change.

That would make you a LIBERAL.

Believe in it or don't, but if you toss it aside for your emotional crap, don't throw it up talking about your "gun rights".

Like I said this has nothing to do with the USA. They are in a different country in a different part of the world. US CONSTITUTION HAS NO BEARING THERE. If this were to happen here Different story. SO.....

Thats a great reason to abandon all you believe in!

http://divinebynature.tripod.com/crack_pipe.jpg

Perfect example of how the intellectually defeated respond....

Posted: 11/3/2009 7:22:21 PM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:

Perfect example of how the intellectually defeated respond....

Dude, you've been going full retard throughout this entire thread with personal attacks and inane replies.

Posted: 11/3/2009 7:23:04 PM EDT

[#19]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Well lets see here. Maybe some of us do not have $24 at the moment to spend. Secondly This crime happened in Saudi so OUR constitution holds no bearing on how he is put to death. My self I think that we are not hard enough on child molesters. So what if they wanna lop his head off and hang him from the rafters. So you may not agree with how they got the confession or how the court proceeding went they decided that he was going to die so.... They got it right... kill the child rapist and show him off for all to see. The next guy might think twice

The Constitution is not there for your convenience in matters which you simply support. It is not simply there for you to toss aside when your opinions change.

That would make you a LIBERAL.

Believe in it or don't, but if you toss it aside for your emotional crap, don't throw it up talking about your "gun rights".

Like I said this has nothing to do with the USA. They are in a different country in a different part of the world. US CONSTITUTION HAS NO BEARING THERE. If this were to happen here Different story. SO.....

Thats a great reason to abandon all you believe in!

http://divinebynature.tripod.com/crack_pipe.jpg

Perfect example of how the intellectually defeated respond....

you just proved a point... when you know that your argument holds now water you try and plug the holes with name calling and excuses. I really like it when someone like you resorts to name calling to try and get their point across. Like I said IF it were it WRONG. SOMEWHERE ELSE LOP their had off and roll it down the street. One less dirtbag in the world

Posted: 11/3/2009 7:25:05 PM EDT

[#20]

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One of the good things about their criminal justice system is that they have almost ZERO murders or rapes or kidnappings because of swift painful public executions. Compared to our system(which only gives a damn about following a process and getting paid), theirs actually works to stop those crimes and puts enough fear into the public that they don't even consider those crimes.

Not only that, but getting your hand cut off just for stealing. I'm sure thieves give it a second though before they steal something.

But they also do beheadings or stoning to death for adultery, so they do take it a bit too far I think.

Edit for spelling.

Posted: 11/3/2009 7:26:24 PM EDT

[#21]

Quoted:

Quoted:
You all are fucked in the head.

Kill the mutherfucker in a more civilized way.

Yes, since he was SO civilized when he raped those children and left one to die in one of the harshest deserts on the planet.

I'm not allow to kill the guy. That would be illegal.

Aboandon the US Constitution if you want, but don't try to use it to your own benefit afterward.

You are telling me that Because you are not allowed to kill the guy you are going to use our constitution to influence the way someone else deems it ok to kill this guy. If we started offing Punk ass kiddie rapists here.... Within the the regulations of our constitution would you have a problem with that? When that happens to a child the dirt bag is taking there life. You ever met anyone that has had someone do this to them when they are younger they are not right when they become an adult. so......

Who am I going to influence?

I am a US citizen of my own moral compass, and I have no bearing or influence on other cultures, nor will I allow their practice to change what I believe in.

If I personally would take action against an individual in such a manner, I would do so illegally with the full expectation of being prosecuted for such crimes with full expectations of the rights afforded to me by the US Constitution.....that would be if I was so emotionally compromised to do such an act.

In this case, I am not.

A lot of you say you would do such a thing, but you wouldn't in a case so far removed from your own interest.

Posted: 11/3/2009 7:27:27 PM EDT

[#22]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Perfect example of how the intellectually defeated respond....

Dude, you've been going full retard throughout this entire thread with personal attacks and inane replies.

I think you are too dense to comprehend my replies.

Posted: 11/3/2009 7:29:09 PM EDT

[#23]

Quoted:
Sorry, Islam still gets it wrong (and so does the original poster).

Arfcom loves to go on and on (and on and on..) talking about all of the hideous things that should be done to "child rapists", often forgetting that there is a fine line between a "child rapist" and an Arfcommer saying "I'd hit that".

A civilized society meets out punishment rationally upholding rule of law, not irrationally based on emotion. To illustrate another problem with this story- when exactly does said "child" stop becoming the victim in Islamic law, 9? When does this child become the criminal, being punished for "enticing" males into raping him/her by showing their ankle?

Islamic law is ridiculous, and I am glad Arfcom does not run our courts.

Exactly, If you posted some of the stuff right here on arfcom in Riyadh, you would probably get something cut off at the least!

You know what, I think I will stick with the Constitution of the United States of America!

Posted: 11/3/2009 7:29:24 PM EDT

[#24]

Quoted:

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One of the good things about their criminal justice system is that they have almost ZERO murders or rapes or kidnappings because of swift painful public executions. Compared to our system(which only gives a damn about following a process and getting paid), theirs actually works to stop those crimes and puts enough fear into the public that they don't even consider those crimes.

Not only that, but getting your hand cut off just for steeling. I'm sure thieves give it a second though before they steel something.

But they also do beheadings or stonning to death for adultry, so they do take it a bit too far I think.

People who spell words wrong should have their typing fingers chopped off because they make people on their side of the argument look collectively unintelligent.

Posted: 11/3/2009 7:29:59 PM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Perfect example of how the intellectually defeated respond....

Dude, you've been going full retard throughout this entire thread with personal attacks and inane replies.

I think you are too dense to comprehend my replies.

I think you are drunk from a half gallon of full retard. Now you can insult me because i have not paid 24 dollars.

Posted: 11/3/2009 7:31:36 PM EDT

[#26]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Perfect example of how the intellectually defeated respond....

Dude, you've been going full retard throughout this entire thread with personal attacks and inane replies.

I think you are too dense to comprehend my replies.

I think you are drunk from a half gallon of full retard. Now you can insult me because i have not paid 24 dollars.

OK.

You are poor.

HA! I showed you!

Posted: 11/3/2009 7:32:36 PM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:

Quoted:
One of the good things about their criminal justice system is that they have almost ZERO murders or rapes or kidnappings because of swift painful public executions. Compared to our system(which only gives a damn about following a process and getting paid), theirs actually works to stop those crimes and puts enough fear into the public that they don't even consider those crimes.

Not only that, but getting your hand cut off just for steeling. I'm sure thieves give it a second though before they steel something.

But they also do beheadings or stonning to death for adultry, so they do take it a bit too far I think.

People who spell words wrong should have their typing fingers chopped off because they make people on their side of the argument look collectively unintelligent.

Did you not spell something wrong just half a page up? I am pretty sure you did because it was in one of my replies. With a red underline. SO......

Posted: 11/3/2009 7:34:36 PM EDT

[#28]

Just remember that "cruel and unusual" is subjective.
What is now considered cruel and unusual now may have been perfectly acceptable in the past.
99% of the problem with our justice system is that punishment almost never fits the crime. I can't even read about most sentencing without getting irate at the lenient sentences some of the people get in our country for absolutely the worst crimes in the world.
Make the punishment fit the crime. Child rapists are not recoverable, and should be disposed of rather than wasting resources keeping them locked up or being monitored outside of prison.
Our whole system of justice became FUBAR when it became about rehabilitation rather than punishment.

Posted: 11/3/2009 7:36:46 PM EDT

[#29]

Quoted:

Quoted:
One of the good things about their criminal justice system is that they have almost ZERO murders or rapes or kidnappings because of swift painful public executions. Compared to our system(which only gives a damn about following a process and getting paid), theirs actually works to stop those crimes and puts enough fear into the public that they don't even consider those crimes.

Not only that, but getting your hand cut off just for steeling. I'm sure thieves give it a second though before they steel something.

But they also do beheadings or stonning to death for adultry, so they do take it a bit too far I think.

People who spell words wrong should have their typing fingers chopped off because they make people on their side of the argument look collectively unintelligent.

Did you not spell something wrong just half a page up? I am pretty sure you did because it was in one of my replies. With a red underline. SO......

Not surprised that one went right over your head.

Maybe you didn't see the

.

Lighten up Francis.

Hit the report button any time you want.
Its right down there........................................................................................

Posted: 11/3/2009 7:37:00 PM EDT

[#30]

Quoted:
Just remember that "cruel and unusual" is subjective.
What is now considered cruel and unusual now may have been perfectly acceptable in the past.
99% of the problem with our justice system is that punishment almost never fits the crime. I can't even read about most sentencing without getting irate at the lenient sentences some of the people get in our country for absolutely the worst crimes in the world.
Make the punishment fit the crime. Child rapists are not recoverable, and should be disposed of rather than wasting resources keeping them locked up or being monitored outside of prison.
Our whole system of justice became FUBAR when it became about rehabilitation rather than punishment.

This

Posted: 11/3/2009 7:38:39 PM EDT

[#31]

Quoted:
Just remember that "cruel and unusual" is subjective.
What is now considered cruel and unusual now may have been perfectly acceptable in the past.
99% of the problem with our justice system is that punishment almost never fits the crime. I can't even read about most sentencing without getting irate at the lenient sentences some of the people get in our country for absolutely the worst crimes in the world.
Make the punishment fit the crime. Child rapists are not recoverable, and should be disposed of rather than wasting resources keeping them locked up or being monitored outside of prison.
Our whole system of justice became FUBAR when it became about rehabilitation rather than punishment.

Thats fine with me.

Flip a switch, drop the tablets, or push the plunger. Shit, I'm not opposed to the traditional firing squad.

Posted: 11/3/2009 7:39:00 PM EDT

[#32]

Quoted:

Quoted:
You all are fucked in the head.

Kill the mutherfucker in a more civilized way.

Giant cuisanart?

This

Posted: 11/3/2009 7:40:00 PM EDT

[#33]

Not surprised that one went right over your head.

Maybe you didn't see the

.

Lighten up Francis.

Hit the report button any time you want.
Its right down there........................................................................................
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No I did see that Now I am just arguing with you on principal. I do not like being called uneducated cause I know I spent enough money to get the education I have. In case you did not notice My name Is Damon not Francis. Says so right there to your left. See it?.........

Posted: 11/3/2009 7:42:29 PM EDT

[#34]

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Quoted:
Well lets see here. Maybe some of us do not have $24 at the moment to spend. Secondly This crime happened in Saudi so OUR constitution holds no bearing on how he is put to death. My self I think that we are not hard enough on child molesters. So what if they wanna lop his head off and hang him from the rafters. So you may not agree with how they got the confession or how the court proceeding went they decided that he was going to die so.... They got it right... kill the child rapist and show him off for all to see. The next guy might think twice

The Constitution is not there for your convenience in matters which you simply support. It is not simply there for you to toss aside when your opinions change.

That would make you a LIBERAL.

Believe in it or don't, but if you toss it aside for your emotional crap, don't throw it up talking about your "gun rights".

Like I said this has nothing to do with the USA. They are in a different country in a different part of the world. US CONSTITUTION HAS NO BEARING THERE. If this were to happen here Different story. SO.....

Does the 2nd amendment grant us the right to keep and bear arms or does it serve to protect our natural rights? Men born outside of the United States do not have the same natural rights?

Posted: 11/3/2009 7:42:46 PM EDT

[#35]

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Too Draconian... fuck those international rights groups.

When it comes to punishment for murder and rape it seems the Islamic countries do in fact get it right.
They give the victim, the victims family and society some form of justice.
Raping a few kids and even killing one.. hell they are only chopping his head off once, I would say he is lucky.
I praise the decision.

It sends a pretty clear message, DON'T RAPE AND MURDER!

Do not rape. Do not steal. Do not murder. These are laws that all men of all faiths can abide. But if you cross the line, into true evil one day you will look behind you and see we three. And on that day you shall reap it.

Posted: 11/3/2009 7:44:54 PM EDT

[#36]

Quoted:

Quoted:
One of the good things about their criminal justice system is that they have almost ZERO murders or rapes or kidnappings because of swift painful public executions. Compared to our system(which only gives a damn about following a process and getting paid), theirs actually works to stop those crimes and puts enough fear into the public that they don't even consider those crimes.

Not only that, but getting your hand cut off just for stealing. I'm sure thieves give it a second though before they steal something.

But they also do beheadings or stoning to death for adultery, so they do take it a bit too far I think.

People who spell words wrong should have their typing fingers chopped off because they make people on their side of the argument look collectively unintelligent.

Ha Ha I respelled my misspelled word.

I'm not saying it's wrong to cut the fuckers head off, I'm saying it's going a little far to stone someone to death for adultery. They can draw and quarter the mother fucker for all I care.

Posted: 11/3/2009 7:45:23 PM EDT

[#37]

Quoted:

Not surprised that one went right over your head.

Maybe you didn't see the

.

Lighten up Francis.

Hit the report button any time you want.
Its right down there........................................................................................

No I did see that Now I am just arguing with you on principal. I do not like being called uneducated cause I know I spent enough money to get the education I have. In case you did not notice My name Is Damon not Francis. Says so right there to your left. See it?.........

Quoted for hilarity.

Posted: 11/3/2009 7:46:45 PM EDT

[#38]

Quoted:

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Well lets see here. Maybe some of us do not have $24 at the moment to spend. Secondly This crime happened in Saudi so OUR constitution holds no bearing on how he is put to death. My self I think that we are not hard enough on child molesters. So what if they wanna lop his head off and hang him from the rafters. So you may not agree with how they got the confession or how the court proceeding went they decided that he was going to die so.... They got it right... kill the child rapist and show him off for all to see. The next guy might think twice

The Constitution is not there for your convenience in matters which you simply support. It is not simply there for you to toss aside when your opinions change.

That would make you a LIBERAL.

Believe in it or don't, but if you toss it aside for your emotional crap, don't throw it up talking about your "gun rights".

Like I said this has nothing to do with the USA. They are in a different country in a different part of the world. US CONSTITUTION HAS NO BEARING THERE. If this were to happen here Different story. SO.....

Does the 2nd amendment grant us the right to keep and bear arms or does it serve to protect our natural rights? Men born outside of the United States do not have the same natural rights?

Yes they do have the same Natural Rights. But our constitution pertains to here in the US. This post has nothing to do with here. If this crime pertained to the US then Our constitution would apply. But it did not happen here.

Posted: 11/3/2009 7:48:15 PM EDT

[#39]

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One of the good things about their criminal justice system is that they have almost ZERO murders or rapes or kidnappings because of swift painful public executions. Compared to our system(which only gives a damn about following a process and getting paid), theirs actually works to stop those crimes and puts enough fear into the public that they don't even consider those crimes.

Not only that, but getting your hand cut off just for stealing. I'm sure thieves give it a second though before they steal something.

But they also do beheadings or stoning to death for adultery, so they do take it a bit too far I think.

People who spell words wrong should have their typing fingers chopped off because they make people on their side of the argument look collectively unintelligent.

Ha Ha I respelled my misspelled word.

I'm not saying it's wrong to cut the fuckers head off, I'm saying it's going a little far to stone someone to death for adultery. They can draw and quarter the mother fucker for all I care.

They can do with him whatever they want. I only agree with the end result. I do not advocate their methods.

Posted: 11/3/2009 7:50:41 PM EDT

[#40]

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You all are fucked in the head.

Kill the mutherfucker in a more civilized way.

Was the crime he did 'civilized' ?

I'm sorry my backward friend.... don't believe in the Constitution?

Would it be ok to use a nasty exectuion like this if due process is followed and it is DNA evidence that convicts the accused as opposed to torture???

Gee, I guess you missed the part about cruel and unusual punishment.

Try reading something for a change.

open for interpretation as to whether or not the death penalty is cruel and unusual.

anyways, it's Islamic law in an Islamic country.

...furthermore, you're out of line with all the personal insults and overall punk behavior in the thread

try READING the COC

Posted: 11/3/2009 7:53:45 PM EDT

[#41]

Quoted:

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You all are fucked in the head.

Kill the mutherfucker in a more civilized way.

Was the crime he did 'civilized' ?

I'm sorry my backward friend.... don't believe in the Constitution?

Would it be ok to use a nasty exectuion like this if due process is followed and it is DNA evidence that convicts the accused as opposed to torture???

Gee, I guess you missed the part about cruel and unusual punishment.

Try reading something for a change.

open for interpretation as to whether or not the death penalty is cruel and unusual.

anyways, it's Islamic law in an Islamic country.

...furthermore, you're out of line with all the personal insults and overall punk behavior in the thread

try READING the COC

Then report me.

Otherwise, maybe you should read what I actually posted. When did I disagree with the death penalty? Read my first post in this thread.

ETA: Punk behavior? Not my fault that people don't get what I'm saying.

Posted: 11/3/2009 7:55:32 PM EDT

[#42]

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You all are fucked in the head.

Kill the mutherfucker in a more civilized way.

Just so everyone can see your first post here.

Posted: 11/3/2009 7:56:58 PM EDT

[#43]

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People's responses in this thread make me wear this face:

It's even worse that you think.

This summer I worked as an intern for a defense firm.
We had a murder trial and had to do voir dire questionnaires for the jury.

One question was something to the effect of:

"Do you think that in order to be found innocent the accused must testify at trial?"

154 questionnaires went out.
118 respondents answered "yes"

Posted: 11/3/2009 7:57:10 PM EDT

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You all are fucked in the head.

Kill the mutherfucker in a more civilized way.

Just so everyone can see your first post here.

I stand by it.

People confuse the method with the result.

Posted: 11/3/2009 7:58:15 PM EDT

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The only problem I have with the verdict is that they behead him first beford the crucifixtion.

This.

Also, bit of trivia: Slavery is officially forbidden in Saudi Arabia, but about as common as it would be if slavery weren't officially forbidden. Executioners are always slaves. There's a reason for this.

If a non-slave executed someone, the dead guy's family would declare revenge on the executioner and his family (even though the dead guy was an asshole who probably deserved it) and they'd go to war with each other like the Hatfields and McCoys, only with less cursing and more spray-and-pray.

But a slave in the Middle East is a non-entity. They don't count as a person, they don't belong to any family or clan (even though they're the property of one), so if a man is executed by a slave, it isn't worth getting revenge. And if someone does decide to get revenge, the only one taking the heat is the slave who beheaded the convicted guy, not the family/clan/government that owns the slave.

Fairly clever way of getting around the assholishness and constant warfare rampant in any country that is majority muslim. Of course, there's the whole slavery bullshit, but whatever.

Posted: 11/3/2009 7:58:58 PM EDT

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Well lets see here. Maybe some of us do not have $24 at the moment to spend. Secondly This crime happened in Saudi so OUR constitution holds no bearing on how he is put to death. My self I think that we are not hard enough on child molesters. So what if they wanna lop his head off and hang him from the rafters. So you may not agree with how they got the confession or how the court proceeding went they decided that he was going to die so.... They got it right... kill the child rapist and show him off for all to see. The next guy might think twice

The Constitution is not there for your convenience in matters which you simply support. It is not simply there for you to toss aside when your opinions change.

That would make you a LIBERAL.

Believe in it or don't, but if you toss it aside for your emotional crap, don't throw it up talking about your "gun rights".

Like I said this has nothing to do with the USA. They are in a different country in a different part of the world. US CONSTITUTION HAS NO BEARING THERE. If this were to happen here Different story. SO.....

Does the 2nd amendment grant us the right to keep and bear arms or does it serve to protect our natural rights? Men born outside of the United States do not have the same natural rights?

Yes they do have the same Natural Rights. But our constitution pertains to here in the US. This post has nothing to do with here. If this crime pertained to the US then Our constitution would apply. But it did not happen here.

I dont believe Crucifixion is an acceptable method of execution.

Posted: 11/3/2009 8:00:03 PM EDT

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You all are fucked in the head.

Kill the mutherfucker in a more civilized way.

I'd be okay with the gallows. Especially if it's the "kick the chair out from under them so they twitch as they slowly strangle" method of hanging instead of the "drop them so they snap their neck and die instantly" method.

Posted: 11/3/2009 8:00:17 PM EDT

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Perfect example of how the intellectually defeated respond....

Dude, you've been going full retard throughout this entire thread with personal attacks and inane replies.

I think you are too dense to comprehend my replies.

no i think tekka hit the nail on the head on this one

Posted: 11/3/2009 8:00:26 PM EDT

[#49]

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Well lets see here. Maybe some of us do not have $24 at the moment to spend. Secondly This crime happened in Saudi so OUR constitution holds no bearing on how he is put to death. My self I think that we are not hard enough on child molesters. So what if they wanna lop his head off and hang him from the rafters. So you may not agree with how they got the confession or how the court proceeding went they decided that he was going to die so.... They got it right... kill the child rapist and show him off for all to see. The next guy might think twice

The Constitution is not there for your convenience in matters which you simply support. It is not simply there for you to toss aside when your opinions change.

That would make you a LIBERAL.

Believe in it or don't, but if you toss it aside for your emotional crap, don't throw it up talking about your "gun rights".

Like I said this has nothing to do with the USA. They are in a different country in a different part of the world. US CONSTITUTION HAS NO BEARING THERE. If this were to happen here Different story. SO.....

Does the 2nd amendment grant us the right to keep and bear arms or does it serve to protect our natural rights? Men born outside of the United States do not have the same natural rights?

Yes they do have the same Natural Rights. But our constitution pertains to here in the US. This post has nothing to do with here. If this crime pertained to the US then Our constitution would apply. But it did not happen here.

I dont believe Crucifixion is an acceptable method of execution.

Some Christians don't even understand the full purpose of crucifixion.