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This is a serious religious thread. We don't need people acting childish. Obviously, going by the poll numbers, people are thinking the same thing. We are here to discuss it. So cut out the stupid stuff.
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Yeah, I don't really think he's the anti christ, although I'm no expert on the subject. But Gosh Darnit, how can he be taken seriously as a Presidential Candidate. He won't even Pledge his Allegiance to us and our country. This is a sad state of affairs we are in. I don't like any of them. |
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Cite please. |
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl32Y7wDVDs Not a very pro-American agenda if you ask me... More like an Anti-American agenda. Hmmm, what a surprise! Looks pretty obvious Obama's allegiance is to the world rather than the USA. |
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I don't see anything in that regarding what I asked. I asked for a cite regarding "Pledge his Allegiance." Don't get me wrong, he's a liberal douche but I was looking for a specific reference to a specific statement you made. |
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I can't get youtube to work, so I don't know what that video says. If you wanna pm me your email, I can send you something about it. |
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If you would like to start a political discussion regarding Obaba please start it in the correct forum.
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I think I may have been duped about the "Pledge of Allegiance" thing. I think either way I don't like his politics, but I may be mistaken about him not wanting to say the pledge of Allegiance. I fell for misinformation. I think. Sorry about that guys. I still don't like him though.
The picture I saw I guess was during the National Anthem and there are differing opinions on how you are supposed to conduct yourself during it being sung. At least, that's the word on the street if you google it. |
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what is this "the" antichrist? I thought scriptures said there were many and will be many. I thought anyone who denied Jesus was an antichrist.
or are we talking about Hollywood eschatology. |
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Hey, you can't let scripture get in the way of doctrine . . . |
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No, the Antichrist will be a Jew, and a leader of the jews. And you would like him.
Obama hardly fits the bill but he may have similar qualities |
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Book, chapter and verse? |
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I believe the Man of sin will be a older non Jewish European or something else. He will probably have unregenerated Jewish persons working for him but himself will not be a Jew.
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I am leaning in this direction as well. If nothing else maybe she is the whore of babbalon (sp?) |
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Dont care what google says, you stand and put your hand over your heart. However, that only proves he hates American which goes without saying. The question is if he is the antichrist. |
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Things could get interesting though if someone were to try to assassinate him and he survive it. Say a normally deadly head shot and he lives through it beyond anyones expectations.
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Well in order for him to be THE antichrist he needs to be elected. Otherwise he is just another John Kerry or Hillary Clinton. In a few months you will get an answer to your question. Unfortunately, even if he is elected does not actually mean he is THE antichrist (you see how confusing this can be)? One thing is for certain, he is antigun and he will be giving the already polarized Congress the last bit of power it needs to make us all illegals without speaking Spanish. He also would not swear on the bible which actually is something I admire. If he does not believe it in, he should swear on whatever he holds most precious. The fact he used the Koran terrifies me considering who we are at war with.
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Upon further study, I do not think he is the antichrist, but an antichrist.
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I dont particularly think Obama is the antichrist. Some of those I have read books under are quite sure the AC will come from a revived roman empire which they attribute to be the EU. However some think our country could be the new babylon mentioned in scripture. I agree that our world would be in a sad state to accept him as defacto ruler...but we are on a rocket sled towards that end IMO. The sad thing about prophecy is that there seems to be very specific countries menioned such as Russia, Iran and of course Israel...however the USA is not any place to be found IMO. This could mean a few different things will happen before the time of the AC and some of those are not very positive. I could elaborate but dont want to get off topic.
IMHO I think that Obama is a very unwise choice for President and I am saddened to see that he is as popular as he is...so who knows maybe he will be the beast. But I think that the AC will be one who brings a deafning pseudo peace between the arabs and Israel. I also think that the wars and rumor of wars will keep going for sometime with Israel taking out some Iranian nuke sites prior to November...which will heat up the sandbox. Of course since my only son is in the USMC infantry...I cringe to think of the Mid East getting worse again, but it will. The incredible thing that is going to happen for sure is this...Christ will come back when we dont exactly expect it...which could be well before the AC makes himself known...er tonight, or next year. |
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He wants to create an obamanation, but he can't be the antichrist.
not smart enough not smooth enough doesn't have a plan of his own, is obviously being puppeted by someone else with more brains comes from the wrong part of the world it's not time yet We've got other things to worry about way before (and after) Obama. He will definitely play into the plan, but he's not a major character. More of a useful idiot. just a few quick thoughts. -grommet |
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Obama is an idiot and a Marxist. Maybe even an anti-white racist. He's probably not the Anti-Christ discussed in the Bible, though.
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he's a tyrant and a communist revolutionary. He's also very bitter and wants revenge. Like a lot of black racial zealots(such as his wife) he blaims white people today for what happened to slaves in America a hundred years ago despite the fact that none of us were ever there or even born. I think he's a person embittered with hate and if he gets elected we may very well see an uprising. The man really does bother me quite a bit. I think he is a great deal more dangerous than people on arfcom realize. I'd compare him directly to Vladimir Lenin. |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlS8i5iYprs&feature=related
the Amazing Facts series is a very good film series and has some good points. |
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I'm not that religious, but it wouldn't surprise me at all. It would at least offer a reasonable explanation for his popularity. I think there may have been several Antichrists through history. Obama certainly aspires to be right up there with the rest of them.
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That actually gave me chills. The evil behind his soulless eyes has been quite apparent to me, just as Bill Clinton's blatant insincerity always jumped out at me. I am always amazed that so many people lack a basic sense of intuition. |
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I agree. I've actually considered starting a thread here along the lines of "Will Obama be the American Robert Mugabe?. |
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Marxism is the antithesis of Christianity. Do the math. -3D |
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In that case, why wasn't Marx himself the Anti-Christ? Or Fidel Castro? Josef Stalin? There are plenty of communists and socialists in human history that are worse than Obama. |
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im looking forward to jan 2009 to laugh at all the dorks who claimed that bush is the antichrist.
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They were anti-Christs. Not "The Anti-Christ" per se, but I suspect the millions who died under them would argue with me. -3D |
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I don't know enough about the Bible to know the difference. What does it take to be THE Anti-Christ? |
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Consider this... Jesus is the word made flesh. The word of God, personified in a man. None of those you listed, nor others like them, could be described as the antithesis of Jesus except possibly by those who suffered or died because of them. But, they ascribed to the principles that are antithetical to Christianity. Calling them "the Antichrist" would be similar to calling the Pope, Jesus. He is not. He is still but a man, who follows and believes in the principles of The Word. Is Obama "the Antichrist?" Do I think Obama is the personification of Marxist principles? Who knows... Lets see how many people die as a result of his policies, and then consider what they would say. -3D |
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The family an I are talking about this very subject. We have started researching Revelation's from start to finish to find out if Barry is the anti-christ. There are some things that make us wonder. The man is very articulate and charmistic and the masses seem to love him. I personally think that he has delusions of grandeur, and the media is just fueling the fire. There is NO empty suit as far as they can see. We will let you know what we start to find out after further research. |
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No, he comes prior to the rapture. He will be elected to rule the world and bring peace to the people during "hard" times. Please refer to Matthew 24. |
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According to Matthew 24 (verse 34), all the bad stuff was supposed to happen while the disciples were still alive . . . "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled." |
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I see "this generation" as the generation that sees all the events listed in Matt. 24 coming to pass, not the generation of the Apostles.
Matthew 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. 34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. I have watched Obama several times when he was being interviewed one on one by a reporter, and he just isn't that sharp. "Jimmy Carter Jr." probably describes him better than "antichrist". |
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Well that ain't much of a prophecy . . . Basically, your contention is that he was saying "the people who see these things will see these things." Joe Schmoe could make that prediction. It hardly rises to the standard of the son of God. |
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Bladeswitcher, I think the implication is that all the listed events would occur within the span of one generation, with the major event being the second coming of Christ.
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We err when we limit our understanding to a physical/natural manifestation of these prophecies. Look at Acts 2. The disciples experienced an annointing of spirit on the day of Pentecost and yet Peter said that was the fulfillment of Joel's prophecy of the sun being turned to darkness and the moon being turned to blood. Joe's prophecy was very similar, in fact, to Jesus' words in Matthew 24, and yet Peter says it came to pass on a day when there was no natural/physical change in the sun or moon. Jesus said there would be earthquakes. I can assure you that there is considerable earth-shaking going on when a person' old notions/ideas are challenged by new truth (O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the lord). Jesus said there would be wars and rumors of wars. How many verses do we need to read about spiritual warfare before we get a clue that all battles are not physical? (FOr the weapons of our warfare are not carnal . . . ) The things of God are spiritually discerned. If we only look for answers on the surface, we will never understand. |
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Not at all in my opinion. Consider someone like hitler, he had a vision of bringing Germany back to prominance after world war 1, and agressively made it happen, obama though, while he might be scary for this country, is just another puppet candidate, fashioned by many others in power. The antichrist will be far superior in intellect and will bring about scary ideas from within, he'll be a real leader, a leader with power.
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i think so....
if not, hes damn stupid if you ask me... im kinda embarrased to be around my neighbors wife since she is trying to lobby him in or work with his campaign... needless to say, if hes elected, hes probally going to take a dirt nap and im gonna hate my neighbors. |
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