Is it wrong to talk about guns at work? - Page 2

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Is it wrong to talk about guns at work? (Page 2 of 2)

Posted: 1/11/2005 11:48:05 PM EDT

[#1]

Quoted:
As a general rule, if you want to keep your job, do what management tells you.

YMMV

I do and recommend that one keeps his private life private at work...
I figure there are already a million reasons to hate a person and/or stab you in the back.

Posted: 1/11/2005 11:51:50 PM EDT

[#2]

A few people here talk about their Im a wizard of whatever it is stuff, other then it being stupid I dont have a problem with it.

Posted: 1/11/2005 11:52:35 PM EDT

[#3]

Quoted:
Quoted:
As a general rule, if you want to keep your job, do what management tells you.

YMMV

I do and recommend that one keeps his private life private at work...
I figure there are already a million reasons to hate a person and/or stab you in the back.

Josie Wales, is that a quote?

Posted: 1/11/2005 11:55:25 PM EDT

[#4]

PS
When i worked for a fortune 500 company one of my co-managers happened to see a picture of me in full LEO uniform--of course inluding gun and all the accoutremonts.

Than she told upper management that i was coming on to her (she was probably pissed because
I was not)

When middle management told me i ran to the director of operations to say what bs it was.

He asked me if i owned guns?
I responded that i came from 3 generations of LEO's...Figure it out for yourself.

Come to find out he came from 3 gen of LEO's in NYC and we were instantly best friends.

Posted: 1/12/2005 12:00:40 AM EDT

[#5]

I'm "The Gun Guy" at work. It is unavoidable.

Bought and sold with co-workers,
Tricked out a couple 1911s for co-workers
Fixing the bosses Garand right now
Get parts shipped there because it is easier than standing in line at the P.O. and better than getting them stole off my front porch.

I get the occasional ribbing, but it has been VERY light ever since one of them actually saw me shoot...

Posted: 1/12/2005 12:04:21 AM EDT

[#6]

I'm the gun guy where I work..................I wish I get paid extra for it somedays

Posted: 1/12/2005 12:13:56 AM EDT

[#7]

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Well, I am having a bunch of other issues with management at this bullshit company, guns being the least of them

The same one that warned me not to talk about guns at work is the same one that jokes about me being 'in love' and having 'a crush' on another male coworkers; which is the biggest crock of shit. He is just one of the few people I work with that aren't assholes, so we bullshit a lot. Plus, I have seen and played with more pussy than my manager has, and she has one.

Secondly, this fucking manager just recently hired one of my co-worker's brothers for a management position, even though that would mean a co-worker of mine has a sibling as a superior, not to mention many people, who actually have experience, were passed over for this promotion. This isn't like the sibling is going to go in another department or anything; nope, it's going to be directly over its sibling. Isn't there some sort of rules against shit like that?

No to mention, management (both females) talk about their sex life all of the time in quite graphic detail. Now, normally, I wouldnt mind hearing some of that, but they are two disgusting chicks.

one of them looks boy george after he escaped a failed attempt to make fois gras from his liver.

Sounds like they are waiting for a chance to break you down and fire you. Beat them to it and get them for sexual harassment. Go to Best buy and get a audio recorder. Sony makes the best ones.
They have a nice one for about $50. Once you get what you need, turn them in and then you will be off limits. It works for the blacks here in Alabama

edited to add:
the sony recorder you need is a digital recorder. You can copy the recording onto a computer and make a cd. Be sure you have enough for a court battle. Do not half ass it.

Posted: 1/12/2005 12:53:47 AM EDT

[#8]

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I'm the gun guy where I work..................I wish I get paid extra for it somedays

I do!

Posted: 1/12/2005 12:58:09 AM EDT

[#9]

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Ok, I work with a bunch of flaming liberals, but there are a few there that shoot. So, i brought in a photo of my brand new colt 6920 on my cell phone and showed him. well, another employee was there when we were talking about it, and somehow got 'offended'

I got taken aside by one of my managers saying not to ever talk about firearms at work again?

what the fuck kind of horse shit is that? Am i in the wrong?

tell him to go FUCK himself.

Posted: 1/12/2005 1:15:41 AM EDT

[#10]

If the liberals want to talk about smoking pot at work, then I get to talk about guns at work.

Posted: 1/12/2005 1:20:48 AM EDT

[#11]

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Quoted:
I'm the gun guy where I work..................I wish I get paid extra for it somedays

I do!

I don't, but I do get some screaming deals from the nurses that are pissed off at their ex's.

Posted: 1/12/2005 1:25:16 AM EDT

[#12]

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one of them looks boy george after he escaped a failed attempt to make fois gras from his liver.
I have no clue what that means.

foie gras is duck liver after, essentially, the duck is caged so that it can't move and is fed very fattening foods (traditionally it is force-fed truffels) until the liver gets larger than a baseball.

Thank God California has banned the produciton of it.

Posted: 1/12/2005 2:18:12 AM EDT

[#13]

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The same one that warned me not to talk about guns at work is the same one that jokes about me being 'in love' and having 'a crush' on another male coworkers; which is the biggest crock of shit.
.

Gays are VERY bad mojo. They are very protected in today's work enviroment.

I'd get your resume up to date.

That is sexual harassement there in itself. Start saying, "I don't appreciate such comments." the next time he pops off about the alleged 'in love' krap to build your sexual harassement case against him. And log it.

wganz
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Posted: 1/12/2005 4:26:02 AM EDT

[#14]

Trust me........do not do it. You WILL be labeled as someone "dangerous" by the liberals at work. HR will probably be FORCED to do something about it if you continue unless you are a model employee in everyother way - even then do not count on it.

Remember, there is no law protecting you in regards to "talking about guns" in a private company. They can get rid of you if they want to (if it is an "at will" employment state).

Trust me.............I am a Human Resources Manager and a gun collector.

Posted: 1/12/2005 4:35:58 AM EDT

[#15]

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I work for a video game company. Kindof shocks people when they see I'm I'm using photos of my own collection as reference for the guns I build for the game. I get a lot of the "don't make him mad" comments. The other day someone accidentally dialed 911 while trying to dial out of the office. Our secretary asked us all to check on everyone else to make sure it was indeed just an accident. My project manager checked by my office and joked that he came to make sure I didn't bring a duffle bag with me to work, I told him it was in my car. It's all in good fun. I've never felt it was antagonistic. I get a hoot watching the other game designers talking about which guns to include and how they should work when they themselves have never handled one in real life. The sound guys even had me critique the gun sounds. I apologize in advance for some of the weapons portrayed in this game. Even though I objected to the gang bangers possessing, let alone firing while on the run, a barret light .50, the head guys said it just looked too cool to omitt. Though I did animate the gang bangers holding some of the guns in true asshat alqaeda style. I almost slipped in some homeboy nite sights.

Holy crap. You and I must be the only 2 people on these boards that make games.

I'm one of the only 2 people at my company that are "gun nuts". I never hide my hobby. I've taken a couple of people from work shooting withe me Sadly, it was just for fun. They never bought a gun after that but I tried.

I've used my knowledge to improve our product (no one else there knows as much about modern military small arms as I do). I've gotten into a few "interesting" discussions with fellow employees over gun control but nothing negative ever came from them.

Regardless, we do have a decent number of liberals (a few a border line socialists). Some of them have actually been hunting before even. Folks joke about my hobby ("IF S ever HTF, I'm coming to your house." (yeah, right)) but, all in all, it's cool.

Posted: 1/12/2005 4:36:30 AM EDT

[#16]

since recieving BRD i have talked with guys at work about my AR build and shooting in general. I have been labeled a sociopath by a few of them, but for the most part everyone that knows i'm a gun nut is fine with it. A couple guys came in yesterday and were laughing their ass off and told me they liked the bumper sticker on my truck.. "keep honking i'm still reloading". I started laughing because i don't own a truck and don't put any bumper stickers on my vehicles.

Posted: 1/12/2005 5:08:43 AM EDT

[#17]

Where I work its required, my boss has been shooting highpower for many, many years. I can look around the office and find gun parts, magazines "the reading kind", sometimes the other kind, and various other things.

Behind our office they built a 600 yard range with two targets and pits, so as I said before its required.

Goose79

Posted: 1/12/2005 5:15:25 AM EDT

[#18]

You need a hand-written log (NOT typed, hand-written), date, time and what was said along with your response of "I do not appreciate those comments, please stop." etc.

Kharn

Posted: 1/12/2005 5:20:01 AM EDT

[#19]

There are a few where I work that talk about guns and shooting. We lay low and keep it to ourselves.

Posted: 1/12/2005 5:25:23 AM EDT

[#20]

i got yelled at about a gun book i had i my desk, and was told to bring them in... i brought 4 more in and went down to HR and got the MGR. in trouble

Posted: 1/12/2005 5:29:11 AM EDT

[#21]

My friend is a saleman for a fire protection company, his company pays all the costs for him to take clients duck and goose hunting, permits, shells, hotels, etc.

Posted: 1/12/2005 5:41:02 AM EDT

[#22]

I took 13 of my coworkers to an indoor range for gun safety training and pistol shooting. That was my idea for our annual "team-building" activity.

Posted: 1/12/2005 5:54:52 AM EDT

[#23]

Hell, I TAKE my gun to work.

Posted: 1/12/2005 5:55:04 AM EDT

[#24]

I've been officially told by the guys I travel with that it bothers them when I talk about guns. Still whenever there's a security issue, I'm always the first one they turn to. Go figure!

Tj

Posted: 1/12/2005 6:07:49 AM EDT

[#25]

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one of them looks boy george after he escaped a failed attempt to make fois gras from his liver.
I have no clue what that means.

Believe me, you don't want to know about either Boy Geo or pate de foie gras.

And don't talk about them at work, either!

Posted: 1/12/2005 6:08:05 AM EDT

[#26]

Quoted:
The same one that warned me not to talk about guns at work is the same one that jokes about me being 'in love' and having 'a crush' on another male coworkers; which is the biggest crock of shit. He is just one of the few people I work with that aren't assholes, so we bullshit a lot. Plus, I have seen and played with more pussy than my manager has, and she has one.

No to mention, management (both females) talk about their sex life all of the time in quite graphic detail. Now, normally, I wouldnt mind hearing some of that, but they are two disgusting chicks.

Both these cases are sexual harrasment. Ask them to stop. When they don't, sue the company.

- or -

Go to HR. Complain about the sexual harrasment and hostile workplace. Managers will get a talking-to and probably a nice "tolerence" seminar. After they fire you for complaining, sue for discriminatory termination.

Posted: 1/12/2005 6:08:13 AM EDT

[#27]

I make it a point not to discuss guns with or around anyone unless I am certain that they share my views.

Posted: 1/12/2005 6:14:29 AM EDT

[#28]

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Cabelas pay isn't great but you can have fun there Most of the old guys there are only working for the employee discount.
I know a couple of guys who never see a paycheck

That's why I could never work there. I want to eat and it's tough when the paycheck disappears before I get it. That 1919 the store had in the gunroom last year was tempting.

Posted: 1/12/2005 6:21:58 AM EDT

[#29]

I am the Dog, car and gun guy at my firm.

I think alot has to do with how you conduct yourself around others. I like to think my coworkers trust me enough to not worry about what I do on my off time.

I shoot competitively IPSC and a little IPDA. I have a couple of 2nd place plaques hanging on my office wall from Blackwater IPSC matches.
My computer desktop background is a pic of me on a rifle stage at the Virginia Black rifle day shooting around a barricade.

When the Blackwater contractors were murdered in Iraq last year I sold raffle tickets in the office for a new M4 that our club raffled off to help the families of the dead.
After seeing what the raffle was for my boss did say he was he thought guns were bad. In his next breath he then gave me $20.00 to add to the Family fund. He said keep the ticket, if its important to me he wanted to help.
I am the care package guy for the deployed servicemen. If you bring it in I get it out.

Is it a smart thing ? NO its not, but like some poster here have pointed out in the past I odnt always do the smart thing.

Posted: 1/12/2005 6:24:13 AM EDT

[#30]

I'm surprised by the number of people who are yelling "SUE" - even though when it comes to other people suing, we all whine about how litigious society is becoming. The reality is that Poink has a couple of managers who are assholes, and who occasionally make the off-color joke. Sue? Talk about overreacting in a whiny and spiteful way.

I thought that was more of a DU reaction.

I'm amazed at how many "men" at arfcom want to solve this problem by running to a lawyer (or jugde) and saying "those women are mean to me, and they sometime call me names that make me feel bad. Waaaaaaah"

Also, as far as I can tell, what poink describes in NOT "sexual harassment" but MIGHT be "hostile work environment" (as Dracster mentioned). Sheesh - I'm not even a lawyer, and I know the difference. It would be nice of the people yelling "SUE" actually knew what they were talking about when they are dispensing legal advice.

If it truly is more than an annoyance, I AGREE that poink should absolutely talk to his HR department or his manager's boss - but depending on the laws in his state, he should accept that he will be on the top of the list of candidates for the next downsizing, and his performance will be under the microscope.

If this is really more about whining about not being allowed to talk about guns at work, then he is probably out of luck.

Posted: 1/12/2005 7:07:47 AM EDT

[#31]

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I got taken aside by one of my managers saying not to ever talk about firearms at work again?

Be thankful you didn't "get" 3 1/2 days off w/o pay and a nasty letter in employee file like I did.

what the fuck kind of horse shit is that? Am i in the wrong?

The kind of horse shit they can fire you over! And the MF'er who wrote me up has an Indiana CCW!
The guy told me something like "It's how SHE percieves what you said - not what you intended."

BTW - I told them they'd have to fire me before I signed the write-up they were putting in my employee file. I didn't and I'm still here.

Posted: 1/12/2005 7:31:57 AM EDT

[#32]

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Ok, I work with a bunch of flaming liberals, but there are a few there that shoot. So, i brought in a photo of my brand new colt 6920 on my cell phone and showed him. well, another employee was there when we were talking about it, and somehow got 'offended'

I got taken aside by one of my managers saying not to ever talk about firearms at work again?

what the fuck kind of horse shit is that? Am i in the wrong?

to bad for the sissy

Posted: 1/12/2005 11:32:20 AM EDT

[#33]

Quoted:
I've been officially told by the guys I travel with that it bothers them when I talk about guns. Still whenever there's a security issue, I'm always the first one they turn to. Go figure!

Tj

I am sorry to hear that the guys you travel with are pussies. It is a sad state for the American male............

Posted: 1/12/2005 4:47:09 PM EDT

[#34]

Alot of you guys have me thinking...

Do you think I should make a phone call to HR and report some of this shit, just in case they do try to get rid of me. I dont see how they could fire me, considering I am always on time, always working, always get my job done, and come in on my time off to cover for other employees.

Well, insurance policy?

Posted: 1/12/2005 5:10:50 PM EDT

[#35]

Poink given the current state of the situation, your are under the ownership of the complainer who was "offended" [read:OWNED]

You are in a hostile work environment and you are being walked apon. Stand up now, show some backbone or it WILL get worse.

As was previously stated, polish up your resume' & start looking elsewhere.

Posted: 1/12/2005 5:16:42 PM EDT

[#36]

I talk about guns at work all the time.

Posted: 1/12/2005 5:19:36 PM EDT

[#37]

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Poink given the current state of the situation, your are under the ownership of the complainer who was "offended" [read:OWNED]

You are in a hostile work environment and you are being walked apon. Stand up now, show some backbone or it WILL get worse.

As was previously stated, polish up your resume' & start looking elsewhere.

I'm more worried about my not taking shit than anything. I have been pissing off quite a few people by pointing out how retarded and assbackwards things are done, not to mention how lazy management is.

It's not the gun talk that has me worried.

Posted: 1/12/2005 5:38:20 PM EDT

[#38]

tag

Posted: 1/12/2005 5:40:48 PM EDT

[#39]

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Started new job a month ago and we talk guns constantly. Of course, we are building (and shooting) Uzis, HKs, AKs and RPDs, including full-autos. More fun than when I was military. I just love getting paid to shoot.

WHERE DO YOU WORK, AND ARE YOU HIRING??????????????????????????????

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