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Posted: 2/27/2010 5:58:00 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 6:07:00 PM EDT
In!

There were lots of guys trying to buy guns off people waiting in line because the gunshop owner had reminded them of the thirty day waiting periods they had voted for in referendum and told them they could apply for a permit but would not be taking a gun out of the shop.


WTF? This is news to me. It's 10 days and AFAIK, there have been no referendums WRT guns in California. I will have to verify that, but I don't think the author is correct.

There were crowds bigger than Bible epics filling the parking lots of the all mega stores on La Cienega and they were stealing everything that was not tied down. Anybody watching the news could see the majority of all of them were the new mexican enrichers, not "poor downtrodden disaffected blacks." These guys who were operating leaf blowers for the wealthy the day before were taking advantage of the chaos to show their true colors and were running rampant as animals once they knew the law was not going to show up. They were systematically stripping every single retailer to the west shoreline of anything bigger than a thumbtack - and they were doing it brazenly right in front of television cameras hovering overhead off helicopters.


Yes, no wants wants to talk about this, but the majority of the looting was done by the local Mexicans, legal or otherwise. But they're here just to help, right?
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 6:10:11 PM EDT
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In!


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Link Posted: 2/27/2010 6:15:52 PM EDT
wtf

eta: i was only 9 years old when the riots occurred so perhaps i really shouldnt talk here, but while much of this story may be true, some of it sounds just overdramatic
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 6:19:32 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 6:21:22 PM EDT
Cliff Notes!!!!

I'm not reading all thqt shit
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 6:23:01 PM EDT
Tag for later reading. I was in LA for the 92 riots. I walked around a corner into a riotgun pointed into my face by a policeman in full riot gear. And I wasn't even that close to the worst of it.
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 6:25:31 PM EDT
haha he almost had me until the barbed wire

Link Posted: 2/27/2010 6:25:51 PM EDT
Good Lord. . .ok, I just started reading and a couple of things got me:

Pia Zadora, although a punch line as an actress, (but actually a pretty good singer) has never been known as a "soft core porn actress". . . second, these riots occurred in 1992. . .cell phones (or "mobiles" as he calls them) were NOT ubiquitous. . . .

I'm going to keep reading. . . but I'm suspicious. . .

ETA: ok, I skimmed all of it––––utter horseshit. . .
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 6:27:09 PM EDT
I quit reading when I got to him taking his Desert eagle out of the cabinet.
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 6:28:16 PM EDT
Glad I don't live in the PRK.

True, I live near Memphis...but I am fairly sure rioters would have..."issues" operating around here.

Link Posted: 2/27/2010 6:29:20 PM EDT
Quoted:
I quit reading when I got to him taking his Desert eagle out of the cabinet.


this is exactly when i said fuck it
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 6:30:12 PM EDT
Quoted:
wtf

eta: i was only 9 years old when the riots occurred so perhaps i really shouldnt talk here, but while much of this story may be true, some of it sounds just overdramatic


It was the only time so far in my life where I got to see what a war looks like ( Drove on 10 Fwy on second day and going out the fires & huge smoke plumes stretched from just north of 10 to north Long Beach , beyond the horizon. on return trip later that afternoon the fires stretched all the way to the hollywood hils north and south to north Long Beach. Will never forget those sights as long as I live...
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 6:30:44 PM EDT
Quoted:
Good Lord. . .ok, I just started reading and a couple of things got me:

Pia Zadora, although a punch line as an actress, (but actually a pretty good singer) has never been known as a "soft core porn actress". . . second, these riots occurred in 1992. . .cell phones (or "mobiles" as he calls them) were NOT ubiquitous. . . .

I'm going to keep reading. . . but I'm suspicious. . .


Yah, gotta agree. Pia may have been 'popular' but going into detail on that is utterly irrelevant and undermines the writers credibility.

Not saying he saw some stuff, just that he is coming off as a bit of a yarn-spinner, hell he was a rent-a-cop. Not Jack Bauer...

Link Posted: 2/27/2010 6:33:51 PM EDT
Yeah, I am gonna have to call BS on this one.





ETA: Watching the backhaul feeds from the satellite trucks (uncensored) was quite an eye opener. Uncle had a C-Band satellite dish and I watched many hours of riot footage. Bought my first firearm shortly thereafter.
 
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 6:34:51 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 6:35:31 PM EDT
Wow.  Thanks for posting that.





I was 8 at the time of the riots, and while I knew they were a response to the King verdict, I really had no idea what was going on.

 
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 6:36:36 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 6:38:37 PM EDT
Long read, but very interesting.  The author said that he tried not to embellish the story, he failed.
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 6:39:25 PM EDT
Too much rambling crap to read



I was working for a week in White Sands and staying at the White Sands hotel: walked thought the hotel room, turned on the TV and watched Denny's head get beat in with bricks.
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 6:40:09 PM EDT
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Too much rambling crap to read

I was working for a week in White Sands and staying at the White Sands hotel: walked thought the hotel room, turned on the TV and watched Denny's head get beat in with bricks.


Did not read it (Just posted some of what I saw ...)
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 6:41:49 PM EDT
Jesus...thats a good read. Makes me reevaluate my 1 week bug in preps.



Need more ammo.
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 6:45:15 PM EDT
What is a .203?  Twisting the choke on his 870 to adjust the spread of shot? How many people buy a nw shotgun with a polychoke on it now?

BS!!!!
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 6:51:40 PM EDT
I was there and the writer wasn't. Just for starters, the streets don't add up and he bounces all over town.

Link Posted: 2/27/2010 6:51:44 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 6:52:21 PM EDT
I was in LA for the 92 riots. I walked around a corner into a riotgun pointed into my face by a policeman in full riot gear. And I wasn't even that close to the worst of it.


But according to the author, all the cops were sitting in their stations saying, "Someone should do something."
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 6:57:11 PM EDT
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Also realized as I was finishing the article and seeing some of the replies on the originating site that he's in Australia - not a lot of other folks with first hand experience.

If you can filter out the embellishments it's not a bad reminder that we're not that far from Hobbes' "nasty, brutish and short' existence - it seems many folks are kept in check by the threat of law, rather than the force of their own ethics.


That is the takeaway from the story. Tall tales or not, the people with regular contact with all aspects of society (usually Police & EMS, Fire to a slightly lesser but equally important extent) understand what is out there. And it ain't pretty and you never see (or smell) it on TV.

The other thing to contemplate is the current generation was sired by that era - and have grown up without much (if any) discipline. No folks from the old days around (or strong enough) to rein em in or counsel them on what is appropriate behavior in society.

Link Posted: 2/27/2010 6:58:36 PM EDT
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I quit reading when I got to him taking his Desert eagle out of the cabinet.


same.
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 6:59:54 PM EDT
Loads of embellishing and inaccuracies.  I lived in L.A. during the riots.

1) He mentions his residence was at the corner of Sunset Blvd and Martin.  If someone can find a street called Martin that intersects Sunset, please let me know because I can't find it anywhere in the area he describes.

2) 30 day waiting period at the gun store...  my experience from this time period tells me there was a 15 day waiting period on all firearms purchases in state of California (summer 1993...  15 day wait to get a .22 bolt action )

3) He talks about a big box Walmart store within walking distance of his residence on Sunset...   I never even saw a Wal-Mart in the L.A. area before the mid 90s, and certainly not in the Hollywood/Beverly Hills area he is talking about.

I could go on, but you get the picture.  I call BS, but his message is not without its merits.
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 7:02:13 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 7:02:25 PM EDT
Quoted:
Good Lord. . .ok, I just started reading and a couple of things got me:

Pia Zadora, although a punch line as an actress, (but actually a pretty good singer) has never been known as a "soft core porn actress". . . second, these riots occurred in 1992. . .cell phones (or "mobiles" as he calls them) were NOT ubiquitous. . . .

I'm going to keep reading. . . but I'm suspicious. . .

ETA: ok, I skimmed all of it––––utter horseshit. . .


Yup.. If he can throw a 60oz jar of babyfood 100 mph he needs to be pitching in the mlb.. Also the smoke went 80 miles into the air? Wow that's really high up there!!

All I can say about the guy who wrote this is...

Link Posted: 2/27/2010 7:02:56 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 7:03:39 PM EDT
I call BS.

Also, what the hell is a .203?
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 7:05:18 PM EDT
I remember the Detroit Riots of 1967.

Difference between the L.A. Riots of 1992 and the Detroit Riots of 1967 = the L.A. Riots did not require the 82nd Airborne Division to get involved.

(Detroit did).
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 7:06:38 PM EDT
Might be true, might be embellished some.. but still a decent read. Its not like any of those things could not happen in the world today.
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 7:06:59 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 7:07:04 PM EDT
I loved this:

I could hear the roaring of the engines idling in reverse, slowly backing up.


Wha?
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 7:08:25 PM EDT
It will happen again.  Give it some time.





- BG
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 7:08:34 PM EDT
And to think, I was at Normandy and Vermont the day before.  Yep, that intersection.  I was working as a locksmith at the time and did a job for the city: Maxine Water's satellite office.  The day of the riots, I woke up with a migraine and called in sick and spent the whole day in bed.  I wasn't even aware of the problems.
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 7:09:43 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 7:11:11 PM EDT
Sorry but that story reads like an amateur novel, not buying it as truth.  One guy standing off a whole block of mexican looters in a SHTF situation?  The points about society, and how thin the veneer of it is, are very valid though.  Even thinking about 9/11, if there had been terrorist arsonists starting fires everywhere like in the story, plus a few agitators to start riots and there could have been a repeat of LA.
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 7:11:40 PM EDT
Good, long read. Thanks for posting this.
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 7:13:05 PM EDT
What's a .203 rifle?  Riot shotguns have twistable chokes on them?
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 7:18:15 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 7:20:29 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 7:21:26 PM EDT
I just wasted an hour reading this bullshit. I love how the last post was almost an advertisement for Australia. No conservative gun enthusiast would even concider moving to Australia.




Link Posted: 2/27/2010 7:24:32 PM EDT
Interesting read. Regardless of the accuracy issues brought up by some members, it brings up good points about preparedness and our population's sense of security.

The rules went out the window very quickly in this situation.
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 7:26:29 PM EDT
I call BS as well. Mobile phones were still somewhat rare in 1992.

 
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 7:34:25 PM EDT



Quoted:


And to think, I was at Normandy and Vermont the day before.  Yep, that intersection.  I was working as a locksmith at the time and did a job for the city: Maxine Water's satellite office.  The day of the riots, I woke up with a migraine and called in sick and spent the whole day in bed.  I wasn't even aware of the problems.


The riots lasted longer than a day.




 
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 7:35:03 PM EDT
I read every word.
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 7:40:23 PM EDT
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I loved this:

I could hear the roaring of the engines idling in reverse, slowly backing up.


Wha?


Semi trucks are geared very low in reverse.  If you are backing up at even 5 mph the motor is wrapped up pretty good. If the engine fan is on like it could be in the socal heat, the engine would be roaring pretty loud.
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