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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:21:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:22:07 PM EDT
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Some fatties will tell themselves ANYTHING to make themselves feel better. Hey the guy who doesn't know what genetics are 
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:22:18 PM EDT
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If you burn more than you take in, that's all that matters. lol, i used that same explanation to this chick i met once. she continued to argue with me that i didn't know anything because i'm not a woman and woman's bodies are different
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:23:10 PM EDT
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Anybody that states that any kind of cardio is bad for weight loss is fucking retarded.
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:24:08 PM EDT
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I've been going to the same gym for years. The same fat broads have been on the same fucking ellipticals, treadmills, steppers and and what not for just as long. And they only got older and fatter.
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:24:21 PM EDT
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Running is a fine path to weight loss. ANY activity that you do exclusively will eventually provide diminished returns because exercise is training. You train your body to be more efficient - do an activity while spending the least amount of energy. This is not exclusive to running. Besides, for health, being fit is more important than being "not fat". She does look pretty healthy http://i58.tinypic.com/fm6rrm.jpg Both feet are on the ground. She isn't running. 
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:24:31 PM EDT
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Holy shit some of you guys overthink stuff.
Running lets me sleep well, without resorting to artificial sleep aids, after I've spent all day drinking caffeinated drinks. Some body weight exercises to keep some bulk on and call it good. Caffeine makes me happy, sleep makes me happy, and I'm in good shape - just a little shy of great shape. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:25:31 PM EDT
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Muscle burns calories 24 hours a day, running does not promote muscle building. Runners are scrawny because extra bulky calorie consuming muscles are shed so all energy can be devoted to running.
Go to any gym and look at the cardio area, 99% fat fucks, they can show up everyday and never drop an ounce of fat. The fit people may warmup a few minutes then they lift. The fit women and fit men, not bodybuilder type. Nothing but cardio makes the body get rid of "unneeded" muscle. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:25:57 PM EDT
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Eh Running helps but I wouldn't say that that's the only thing you should do- plus if you've got an extra 100 pounds to lose running could lead to a nice house boat for the doctor that's gonna replace a knee or hip you're destroying. Sitting on your ass is what will kill ya.
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:27:00 PM EDT
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Muscle burns calories 24 hours a day, running does not promote muscle building. Runners are scrawny because extra bulky calorie consuming muscles are shed so all energy can be devoted to running. Go to any gym and look at the cardio area, 99% fat fucks, they can show up everyday and never drop an ounce of fat. The fit people may warmup a few minutes then they lift. The fit women and fit men, not bodybuilder type. Sprinters have plenty of muscle. Depends on what type of running you do. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:28:34 PM EDT
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Muscle burns calories 24 hours a day, running does not promote muscle building. Runners are scrawny because extra bulky calorie consuming muscles are shed so all energy can be devoted to running. Go to any gym and look at the cardio area, 99% fat fucks, they can show up everyday and never drop an ounce of fat. The fit people may warmup a few minutes then they lift. The fit women and fit men, not bodybuilder type. Nothing but cardio makes the body get rid of "unneeded" muscle. You do realize actual runners aren't in the gym right? |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:29:14 PM EDT
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Sprinters have plenty of muscle. Depends on what type of running you do. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Muscle burns calories 24 hours a day, running does not promote muscle building. Runners are scrawny because extra bulky calorie consuming muscles are shed so all energy can be devoted to running. Go to any gym and look at the cardio area, 99% fat fucks, they can show up everyday and never drop an ounce of fat. The fit people may warmup a few minutes then they lift. The fit women and fit men, not bodybuilder type. Sprinters have plenty of muscle. Depends on what type of running you do. Yup. Sprinting promotes growth of type 2, or fast twitch, muscle fibers which aren't as lean as their type 1 counter parts. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:30:11 PM EDT
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But why would anybody want to lose weight?
Most people are fat. Fat is the new normal. Do you want to be different or special or something? Just pig out on delicious junk food and drink gallons of Dr. Pepper and be happy. That's what life is all about. To hell with all that healthy exercise nonsense. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:30:27 PM EDT
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Sprinters have plenty of muscle. Depends on what type of running you do. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Muscle burns calories 24 hours a day, running does not promote muscle building. Runners are scrawny because extra bulky calorie consuming muscles are shed so all energy can be devoted to running. Go to any gym and look at the cardio area, 99% fat fucks, they can show up everyday and never drop an ounce of fat. The fit people may warmup a few minutes then they lift. The fit women and fit men, not bodybuilder type. Sprinters have plenty of muscle. Depends on what type of running you do. Yep short bursts, not an hour a day on threadmill and nothing else, but you knew we were not talking about muscular sprinter didn't ya, you just wanted to fucking nitpick every fucking detail that was not specifically spelled out. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:30:49 PM EDT
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Uhh. Different kinds of mountain biking. Different kinds of running. Bodybuilders? What the hell. Self-absorbed non-athletes. Anyway, quit assuming your preferred idea of fitness is the same as everyone else's. You seem disproportionately focused on how you look. A lot of us grow up and get over our body issues. In my opinion, ability to run is the greatest indicator of human fitness. I'm not saying a man shouldn't be able to squat at least 225 and deadlift at least 275. But after that, a good human is able to cover distance. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Your arguments are weaksauce. I can burn 1000 Calories an hour riding my bicycle. And most pro bodybuilders can burn 1000 calories while taking a nap Bike riding is much better than running though, a great muscle builder when mountain biking. Muscle building being the key. Uhh. Different kinds of mountain biking. Different kinds of running. Bodybuilders? What the hell. Self-absorbed non-athletes. Anyway, quit assuming your preferred idea of fitness is the same as everyone else's. You seem disproportionately focused on how you look. A lot of us grow up and get over our body issues. In my opinion, ability to run is the greatest indicator of human fitness. I'm not saying a man shouldn't be able to squat at least 225 and deadlift at least 275. But after that, a good human is able to cover distance. Bodybuilder comment was based on calorie burning. Self absorbed nonathletes? I'd like to hear your definition of an athlete I guess. No I don't consider bodybuilding competitions to be a sport but I'd love to see you personally go against one of them in an Olympic event such as powerlifting or shot put. Or just tell them they are a non-athlete, then you can use your running skills 
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:31:31 PM EDT
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You do realize actual runners aren't in the gym right? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Muscle burns calories 24 hours a day, running does not promote muscle building. Runners are scrawny because extra bulky calorie consuming muscles are shed so all energy can be devoted to running. Go to any gym and look at the cardio area, 99% fat fucks, they can show up everyday and never drop an ounce of fat. The fit people may warmup a few minutes then they lift. The fit women and fit men, not bodybuilder type. Nothing but cardio makes the body get rid of "unneeded" muscle. You do realize actual runners aren't in the gym right? You do realize the runners you speak of are not the fatties struggling to lose fat right? |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:32:07 PM EDT
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lol, i used that same explanation to this chick i met once. she continued to argue with me that i didn't know anything because i'm not a woman and woman's bodies are different Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you burn more than you take in, that's all that matters. lol, i used that same explanation to this chick i met once. she continued to argue with me that i didn't know anything because i'm not a woman and woman's bodies are different There was one that wasn't fat. She had 250 pounds of water weight. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:32:24 PM EDT
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Anybody that states that any kind of cardio is bad for weight loss is fucking retarded. Reading is fun |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:32:33 PM EDT
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You do realize actual runners aren't in the gym right? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Muscle burns calories 24 hours a day, running does not promote muscle building. Runners are scrawny because extra bulky calorie consuming muscles are shed so all energy can be devoted to running. Go to any gym and look at the cardio area, 99% fat fucks, they can show up everyday and never drop an ounce of fat. The fit people may warmup a few minutes then they lift. The fit women and fit men, not bodybuilder type. Nothing but cardio makes the body get rid of "unneeded" muscle. You do realize actual runners aren't in the gym right? That is not exactly the case, when I was in school and ran cross country. Our coach had us in the gym twice a week lifting, but instead high weight, low reps we did low weight, high reps. Once track seasons started we reversed that. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:43:00 PM EDT
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Some fatties will tell themselves ANYTHING to make themselves feel better. Hey the guy who doesn't know what genetics are http://i.imgur.com/8gwNV.jpg We were actually talking about genetics of skinny people but that cartoon is awesome
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:44:08 PM EDT
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I can't speak for anyone else but I've lost 20 lbs and my wife 30 lbs since we started training for and running 5k and 10k races in the past 6 months.
Works for me. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:45:54 PM EDT
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Running is a fine path to weight loss. ANY activity that you do exclusively will eventually provide diminished returns because exercise is training. You train your body to be more efficient - do an activity while spending the least amount of energy. This is not exclusive to running. Besides, for health, being fit is more important than being "not fat". She does look pretty healthy http://i58.tinypic.com/fm6rrm.jpg She's not running... both feet are on the ground at the same time. She's walking like a fat ass with a big arm swing;) |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:46:50 PM EDT
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You are not special. You are fat because you EAT TOO MUCH. You eat too much because you don't KNOW HOW MANY CALORIES YOU ARE ACTUALLY CONSUMING. You Don't know because you're IGNORANT or DGAF. If you Gave a Fuck, you'd learn that a Hamburger isn't 200cals and a sedentary lifestyle (90% of America) should limit intake to ~*1800kcal /day. (Depending on age/height/sex this will vary SLIGHTLY.... like +-200) If you get to low 20's BMI and you don't want to lose more, go up to 1900. If you still lose, go to 2000, repeat until your 4 week avg weight is basically the same. Stay there forever. Never need Gastric Bypass Surgery or skin-removal surgery. If you want to GIVE A FUCK. Start here: 6'0"- 180lb - 45yo Man. Adjust Accordingly. Diet is what you eat forever, not what you do to lose weight. Truth. *(If you workout and are an AVID gym goer, you know that this doesn't apply to you as much as it does the office worker who comes home and watches TV/Internet all night) |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:47:17 PM EDT
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Seen this a few times here the last couple weeks. It is truly one of the stupidest things I have ever heard, right up there with hip firing a rifle makes it 10x deadlier and .50 desert Eagles are made to shoot down planes. It is equivalent to me saying midgets that play football will grow to be 6'2 260lbs. For those that don't understand I'll try to explain the best I can: Playing football doesnt make a 6'2, 260lbs man- 6'2, 260lbs men play football. Competition runners don't get skinny by running- skinny people become competition runners I made this thread because there is nothing worse than someone who has decided to lose weight for health, looks, or to feel better in general only to be givin info that all but guaranties their failure. I will state again, running is the worst path to weightloss. It is the toughest way to succeed at lasting gains and should be the very last thing on someone's list after all other steps are taken. I.E. Diet and muscle building ( I said muscle BUILDING not cardio). Weights, unweighted circuit type training, swiming laps ect. just NOT cross fit. Fuck cross fit, that's shits gay. Hope this helps someone
As best I can recall, you have never made a single post that wasn't borderline retarded. I can't decide whether you're just inarticulate, or legitimately stupid. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:50:30 PM EDT
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OP do you have a degree in exercise physiology?
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:55:00 PM EDT
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That is not exactly the case, when I was in school and ran cross country. Our coach had us in the gym twice a week lifting, but instead high weight, low reps we did low weight, high reps. Once track seasons started we reversed that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Muscle burns calories 24 hours a day, running does not promote muscle building. Runners are scrawny because extra bulky calorie consuming muscles are shed so all energy can be devoted to running. Go to any gym and look at the cardio area, 99% fat fucks, they can show up everyday and never drop an ounce of fat. The fit people may warmup a few minutes then they lift. The fit women and fit men, not bodybuilder type. Nothing but cardio makes the body get rid of "unneeded" muscle. You do realize actual runners aren't in the gym right? That is not exactly the case, when I was in school and ran cross country. Our coach had us in the gym twice a week lifting, but instead high weight, low reps we did low weight, high reps. Once track seasons started we reversed that. I meant the people using to cardio equipmemt. I fully realize that weight training is an important part of fitness and training. I just don't put much stock into the only lift crowd. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:00:01 PM EDT
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Tell me more. While you're at it, tell me what training certs and/or degrees you have.
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:02:39 PM EDT
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You lost me, who doesn't like to run? My clients used to tell me they didn't come to the gym because they tried running to lose weight and failed. Understand? Surgeon? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I hear this a lot. All it is, is an excuse not to run. Diet is number 1 when it comes to weight loss above any type of exercise with out question. Funny, running is the number one excuse I got from my clients for why they have never worked out before. There's a reason they came to me instead of continuing to run. So people's excuse for not working out is because they don't like to run? There's plenty of ways to work out without running? You a GI surgeon? You lost me, who doesn't like to run? My clients used to tell me they didn't come to the gym because they tried running to lose weight and failed. Understand? Surgeon? They came to the gym because they needed someone to motivate them and they had no clue how to workout, lifting or cardio. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:05:13 PM EDT
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Diet is the key to weightloss.
You can't outrun or outlift a shitty diet. I run a lot and it's my preferred method of exercise. Quit trying to pigeonhole people. Eat right and move for a healthy lifestyle. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:07:13 PM EDT
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If you burn more than you take in, that's all that matters. This is like if you were in DC and someone asked you how to get back to Virginia, and you looked around at that maze of diagonal roads and one-way streets and said "go south". Calories in affects calories out. They are not independent variables, and different macronutrients have very different metabolic consequences. I've been in good shape and unable to make it through the morning without getting hypoglycemic, three hours after breakfast- shaky, clammy, weak, and completely unable to function. I've more recently fasted for twenty hours and then played two hours of ultimate frisbee with no noticeable loss in output. The difference is what you eat. "A calorie is a calorie" is the battle cry of people who are emotionally attached to food and who also, not coincidentally, think that you need to exercise to lose weight. You certainly don't need to run. Assuming you're of the "just drive south" school, you need to make your body more metabolically expensive to run by building more muscle, and deplete muscle glycogen so that your body has something to do with that fruit juice you're going to drink "because it's natural". |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:08:08 PM EDT
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Your arguments are weaksauce. I can burn 1000 Calories an hour riding my bicycle. At 6'2" and 200 pounds, I burn about 1500 calories for just under an hour of running (10 miles at a 5:58 pace). Running tends to burn more calories than the bike given equal time. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:10:09 PM EDT
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Seen this a few times here the last couple weeks. It is truly one of the stupidest things I have ever heard, right up there with hip firing a rifle makes it 10x deadlier and .50 desert Eagles are made to shoot down planes. It is equivalent to me saying midgets that play football will grow to be 6'2 260lbs. For those that don't understand I'll try to explain the best I can: Playing football doesnt make a 6'2, 260lbs man- 6'2, 260lbs men play football. Competition runners don't get skinny by running- skinny people become competition runners I made this thread because there is nothing worse than someone who has decided to lose weight for health, looks, or to feel better in general only to be givin info that all but guaranties their failure. I will state again, running is the worst path to weightloss. It is the toughest way to succeed at lasting gains and should be the very last thing on someone's list after all other steps are taken. I.E. Diet and muscle building ( I said muscle BUILDING not cardio). Weights, unweighted circuit type training, swiming laps ect. just NOT cross fit. Fuck cross fit, that's shits gay. Hope this helps someone
What is your BMI? Weight loss or not, Cardo>no Cardo. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:11:48 PM EDT
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Your arguments are weaksauce. I can burn 1000 Calories an hour riding my bicycle. This. Running doesn't burn as many calories because people generally don't run for an hour straight. They run for 20 mins. They exceed the hr level that burns fat efficiently, instead burning lean muscle. Also their metabolism doesn't run for hours after because they haven't exceeded 30 mins straight of activity. Biking is much easier on the joints as well. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:13:22 PM EDT
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I generally do 20-25 miles a week of running, and I find that those times when I injure myself causing me take a few weeks to a month off from running I actually lose weight. When I start running again I put the weight back on. This. My appetite skyrockets due to my running. I mysteriously lost weight when I had to quit for about a month. 
I feel better, mentally, when I run. But I get depressed when I weigh myself. OHMYGOD!!! Make it stop! 
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:16:28 PM EDT
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As best I can recall, you have never made a single post that wasn't borderline retarded. I can't decide whether you're just inarticulate, or legitimately stupid. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Seen this a few times here the last couple weeks. It is truly one of the stupidest things I have ever heard, right up there with hip firing a rifle makes it 10x deadlier and .50 desert Eagles are made to shoot down planes. It is equivalent to me saying midgets that play football will grow to be 6'2 260lbs. For those that don't understand I'll try to explain the best I can: Playing football doesnt make a 6'2, 260lbs man- 6'2, 260lbs men play football. Competition runners don't get skinny by running- skinny people become competition runners I made this thread because there is nothing worse than someone who has decided to lose weight for health, looks, or to feel better in general only to be givin info that all but guaranties their failure. I will state again, running is the worst path to weightloss. It is the toughest way to succeed at lasting gains and should be the very last thing on someone's list after all other steps are taken. I.E. Diet and muscle building ( I said muscle BUILDING not cardio). Weights, unweighted circuit type training, swiming laps ect. just NOT cross fit. Fuck cross fit, that's shits gay. Hope this helps someone
As best I can recall, you have never made a single post that wasn't borderline retarded. I can't decide whether you're just inarticulate, or legitimately stupid. So you think midgets will become big tall football players, I guess I know which one you are ... |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:19:05 PM EDT
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Quoted: Seen this a few times here the last couple weeks. It is truly one of the stupidest things I have ever heard, right up there with hip firing a rifle makes it 10x deadlier and .50 desert Eagles are made to shoot down planes. It is equivalent to me saying midgets that play football will grow to be 6'2 260lbs. For those that don't understand I'll try to explain the best I can: Playing football doesnt make a 6'2, 260lbs man- 6'2, 260lbs men play football. Competition runners don't get skinny by running- skinny people become competition runners I made this thread because there is nothing worse than someone who has decided to lose weight for health, looks, or to feel better in general only to be givin info that all but guaranties their failure. I will state again, running is the worst path to weightloss. It is the toughest way to succeed at lasting gains and should be the very last thing on someone's list after all other steps are taken. I.E. Diet and muscle building ( I said muscle BUILDING not cardio). Weights, unweighted circuit type training, swiming laps ect. just NOT cross fit. Fuck cross fit, that's shits gay. Hope this helps someone 2 years ago I was that guy…you know, a strong, but fat guy. I was 6'4" 335 pounds. Strong as an ox, shitty diet, hated cardio. I never really followed a formal program in the gym…just did stuff I liked. Got strongk. Then I discovered Layne Norton's best damn cardio possible in only 15 minutes, and started doing spin bike sprints, as well as pushing trucks, sprints, and other HIIT type protocols. I dropped 25 pounds pretty quickly, and actually looked pretty damn good at 315 pounds. I then go serious about strength training, and started with the 5-3-1 program, combined with HIIT and counting/tracking macro nutrients. I went from 315 pounds down to a low weight of 260 pounds. In the last year, I've developed some pretty serious health issues that are unrelated to all of this, but I am still at 280 pounds despite not lifting and no longer doing HIIT…I do ride my bike (roughly 60-75 minutes per day), and I have a very carb heavy diet (low protein/low fat due to solitary kidney and chronic kidney disease). My point…I never ever ran more than 400 yard. Period. I did absolutely ZERO 'cardio'. I did not do dumbass CrossFit. My reason for not doing either…besides Crossfit being riddled with Ghonnoherpesyphillaidsebola was that I did not want to injure myself and be unable to train. Crossfit and long distance running on 'this frame' were a recipe for knee and hip and shoulder damage. Nope. No part in that. I am thankful I was able to do what I did…that strength work and muscle development will carry me a long way. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:23:58 PM EDT
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Some fatties will tell themselves ANYTHING to make themselves feel better. Hey the guy who doesn't know what genetics are One of my Lance Corporals weighed 300+ pounds and looked exactly like Chris from Family Guy before he decided to enlist. Complete with the haircut to go with the weight and man boobs. 18 months of determination and hard work later, he was a hundred pounds lighter and enlisting. He has to show people pictures of before, during, and after his change for them to believe it. He now looks the picture perfect Marine. My whole family is overweight for more than one generation, but I work out hard enough that I did quite well as a 400m/800m guy in college. When I quit working out, I put on bad weight fast. So I work hard. Genetics are largely an excuse. With proper training and diet, then bar joint problems the vast majority of men should be able to attain a 6 min mile. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:27:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Uhh. Different kinds of mountain biking. Different kinds of running. Bodybuilders? What the hell. Self-absorbed non-athletes. Anyway, quit assuming your preferred idea of fitness is the same as everyone else's. You seem disproportionately focused on how you look. A lot of us grow up and get over our body issues. In my opinion, ability to run is the greatest indicator of human fitness. I'm not saying a man shouldn't be able to squat at least 225 and deadlift at least 275. But after that, a good human is able to cover distance. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Your arguments are weaksauce. I can burn 1000 Calories an hour riding my bicycle. And most pro bodybuilders can burn 1000 calories while taking a nap Bike riding is much better than running though, a great muscle builder when mountain biking. Muscle building being the key. Uhh. Different kinds of mountain biking. Different kinds of running. Bodybuilders? What the hell. Self-absorbed non-athletes. Anyway, quit assuming your preferred idea of fitness is the same as everyone else's. You seem disproportionately focused on how you look. A lot of us grow up and get over our body issues. In my opinion, ability to run is the greatest indicator of human fitness. I'm not saying a man shouldn't be able to squat at least 225 and deadlift at least 275. But after that, a good human is able to cover distance.  |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:30:16 PM EDT
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5 3 1 strength training and HIIT changed my life…ZERO LISS cardio for me. 2 years ago I was that guy…you know, a strong, but fat guy. I was 6'4" 335 pounds. Strong as an ox, shitty diet, hated cardio. I never really followed a formal program in the gym…just did stuff I liked. Got strongk. Then I discovered Layne Norton's best damn cardio possible in only 15 minutes, and started doing spin bike sprints, as well as pushing trucks, sprints, and other HIIT type protocols. I dropped 25 pounds pretty quickly, and actually looked pretty damn good at 315 pounds. I then go serious about strength training, and started with the 5-3-1 program, combined with HIIT and counting/tracking macro nutrients. I went from 315 pounds down to a low weight of 260 pounds. In the last year, I've developed some pretty serious health issues that are unrelated to all of this, but I am still at 280 pounds despite not lifting and no longer doing HIIT…I do ride my bike (roughly 60-75 minutes per day), and I have a very carb heavy diet (low protein/low fat due to solitary kidney and chronic kidney disease). My point…I never ever ran more than 400 yard. Period. I did absolutely ZERO 'cardio'. I did not do dumbass CrossFit. My reason for not doing either…besides Crossfit being riddled with Ghonnoherpesyphillaidsebola was that I did not want to injure myself and be unable to train. Crossfit and long distance running on 'this frame' were a recipe for knee and hip and shoulder damage. Nope. No part in that. I am thankful I was able to do what I did…that strength work and muscle development will carry me a long way. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Seen this a few times here the last couple weeks. It is truly one of the stupidest things I have ever heard, right up there with hip firing a rifle makes it 10x deadlier and .50 desert Eagles are made to shoot down planes. It is equivalent to me saying midgets that play football will grow to be 6'2 260lbs. For those that don't understand I'll try to explain the best I can: Playing football doesnt make a 6'2, 260lbs man- 6'2, 260lbs men play football. Competition runners don't get skinny by running- skinny people become competition runners I made this thread because there is nothing worse than someone who has decided to lose weight for health, looks, or to feel better in general only to be givin info that all but guaranties their failure. I will state again, running is the worst path to weightloss. It is the toughest way to succeed at lasting gains and should be the very last thing on someone's list after all other steps are taken. I.E. Diet and muscle building ( I said muscle BUILDING not cardio). Weights, unweighted circuit type training, swiming laps ect. just NOT cross fit. Fuck cross fit, that's shits gay. Hope this helps someone
2 years ago I was that guy…you know, a strong, but fat guy. I was 6'4" 335 pounds. Strong as an ox, shitty diet, hated cardio. I never really followed a formal program in the gym…just did stuff I liked. Got strongk. Then I discovered Layne Norton's best damn cardio possible in only 15 minutes, and started doing spin bike sprints, as well as pushing trucks, sprints, and other HIIT type protocols. I dropped 25 pounds pretty quickly, and actually looked pretty damn good at 315 pounds. I then go serious about strength training, and started with the 5-3-1 program, combined with HIIT and counting/tracking macro nutrients. I went from 315 pounds down to a low weight of 260 pounds. In the last year, I've developed some pretty serious health issues that are unrelated to all of this, but I am still at 280 pounds despite not lifting and no longer doing HIIT…I do ride my bike (roughly 60-75 minutes per day), and I have a very carb heavy diet (low protein/low fat due to solitary kidney and chronic kidney disease). My point…I never ever ran more than 400 yard. Period. I did absolutely ZERO 'cardio'. I did not do dumbass CrossFit. My reason for not doing either…besides Crossfit being riddled with Ghonnoherpesyphillaidsebola was that I did not want to injure myself and be unable to train. Crossfit and long distance running on 'this frame' were a recipe for knee and hip and shoulder damage. Nope. No part in that. I am thankful I was able to do what I did…that strength work and muscle development will carry me a long way. 260 is still obese |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:30:19 PM EDT
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funny....
i lost ~70-80 lbs by doing crossfit, running, and adjusting my eating habits |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:31:59 PM EDT
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What is your BMI? Weight loss or not, Cardo>no Cardo. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Seen this a few times here the last couple weeks. It is truly one of the stupidest things I have ever heard, right up there with hip firing a rifle makes it 10x deadlier and .50 desert Eagles are made to shoot down planes. It is equivalent to me saying midgets that play football will grow to be 6'2 260lbs. For those that don't understand I'll try to explain the best I can: Playing football doesnt make a 6'2, 260lbs man- 6'2, 260lbs men play football. Competition runners don't get skinny by running- skinny people become competition runners I made this thread because there is nothing worse than someone who has decided to lose weight for health, looks, or to feel better in general only to be givin info that all but guaranties their failure. I will state again, running is the worst path to weightloss. It is the toughest way to succeed at lasting gains and should be the very last thing on someone's list after all other steps are taken. I.E. Diet and muscle building ( I said muscle BUILDING not cardio). Weights, unweighted circuit type training, swiming laps ect. just NOT cross fit. Fuck cross fit, that's shits gay. Hope this helps someone
What is your BMI? Weight loss or not, Cardo>no Cardo. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile 21.3 I am abit underweight with The heat and my work schedule right now. Extra Shredded and vascular like a mother fucker though. Absolutely correct nothing wrong with cardio. Of course most people don't realize that cardio means- heart, and has nothing to do with exercise or muscle building or anything but the heart |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:36:17 PM EDT
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I agree
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:42:07 PM EDT
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<knock off the personal attacks>
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:44:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And most pro bodybuilders can burn 1000 calories while taking a nap Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Your arguments are weaksauce. I can burn 1000 Calories an hour riding my bicycle. And most pro bodybuilders can burn 1000 calories while taking a nap Cite? And the great thing about bicycling is that you don't need to be a pro to burn calories like that. 277 watts. Not mountain biking though. Compared to road cycling it is second tier in calorie burning. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:47:09 PM EDT
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Seen this a few times here the last couple weeks. It is truly one of the stupidest things I have ever heard, right up there with hip firing a rifle makes it 10x deadlier and .50 desert Eagles are made to shoot down planes. It is equivalent to me saying midgets that play football will grow to be 6'2 260lbs. For those that don't understand I'll try to explain the best I can: Playing football doesnt make a 6'2, 260lbs man- 6'2, 260lbs men play football. Competition runners don't get skinny by running- skinny people become competition runners I made this thread because there is nothing worse than someone who has decided to lose weight for health, looks, or to feel better in general only to be givin info that all but guaranties their failure. I will state again, running is the worst path to weightloss. It is the toughest way to succeed at lasting gains and should be the very last thing on someone's list after all other steps are taken. I.E. Diet and muscle building ( I said muscle BUILDING not cardio). Weights, unweighted circuit type training, swiming laps ect. just NOT cross fit. Fuck cross fit, that's shits gay. Hope this helps someone
And one of my groomsman lost 60 pounds by running alone. No diet or anything else. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:50:59 PM EDT
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260 is still obese Wow, I think that might be the most asshole remark I've ever seen here. And that's really saying something I don't take it as assholish, just ignorant. Ronnie Coleman's contest weight was 300. That's why BMI sucks ass. It makes an assumption- an assumption that's probably correct- but it's still an assumption. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:56:30 PM EDT
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I don't take it as assholish, just ignorant. Ronnie Coleman's contest weight was 300. That's why BMI sucks ass. It makes an assumption- an assumption that's probably correct- but it's still an assumption. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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260 is still obese Wow, I think that might be the most asshole remark I've ever seen here. And that's really saying something I don't take it as assholish, just ignorant. Ronnie Coleman's contest weight was 300. That's why BMI sucks ass. It makes an assumption- an assumption that's probably correct- but it's still an assumption. sorry, I admit it was out of line. ClatuVertanictu lost a lot of weight and that's a big accomplishment. I had a knee-jerk reaction remembering an instance where some dude on a forum was giving out fitness advice, arguing aggressively, and I later on learned he looked something like this: 
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:57:19 PM EDT
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I don't take it as assholish, just ignorant. Ronnie Coleman's contest weight was 300. That's why BMI sucks ass. It makes an assumption- an assumption that's probably correct- but it's still an assumption. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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260 is still obese Wow, I think that might be the most asshole remark I've ever seen here. And that's really saying something I don't take it as assholish, just ignorant. Ronnie Coleman's contest weight was 300. That's why BMI sucks ass. It makes an assumption- an assumption that's probably correct- but it's still an assumption. I agree with you on BMI, but I find it asshole-ish due to the fact he had to stop training when he got down to 260 because of serious health problems. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:57:22 PM EDT
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At 6'2" and 200 pounds, I burn about 1500 calories for just under an hour of running (10 miles at a 5:58 pace). Running tends to burn more calories than the bike given equal time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Your arguments are weaksauce. I can burn 1000 Calories an hour riding my bicycle. At 6'2" and 200 pounds, I burn about 1500 calories for just under an hour of running (10 miles at a 5:58 pace). Running tends to burn more calories than the bike given equal time. I prefer cycling or swimming. Less impact to the joints. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 7:02:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: At 6'2" and 200 pounds, I burn about 1500 calories for just under an hour of running (10 miles at a 5:58 pace). Running tends to burn more calories than the bike given equal time. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Your arguments are weaksauce. I can burn 1000 Calories an hour riding my bicycle. At 6'2" and 200 pounds, I burn about 1500 calories for just under an hour of running (10 miles at a 5:58 pace). Running tends to burn more calories than the bike given equal time. How are you measuring this? On a bicycle we use power meters. These are not numbers we are just estimating. At 70kg, I can burn 1000 Cal/hr for hour after hour. At your mass of 90 kg, burning 1500 Cal/hr calculates very close to the same W/kg. If you can do that two hours a day three times a week plus a five hour ride on Saturday, then your running would be equivalent. |
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