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Link Posted: 8/24/2017 12:17:28 AM EST
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Link Posted: 8/24/2017 12:17:42 AM EST
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I mean what are you actually concerned about? That theyre going to capture the WH with 5k dudes?

Dont get me wrong I fucking love these types of threads and infiltrating the nuts but dont get lost in their propaganda or radicalized yourself.
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I'm from Rural Mississippi. And 120 is indeed something when one location holds 3-4 training events, and there's easily 30-40 venues where training is ongoing.

I used to believe the same as you, then I moved here and got politically active. Then I learned how badly I underestimated the problem.
I mean what are you actually concerned about? That theyre going to capture the WH with 5k dudes?

Dont get me wrong I fucking love these types of threads and infiltrating the nuts but dont get lost in their propaganda or radicalized yourself.
One side is absolutely convinced of their righteousness, is actively brainwashing half the country that the other half deserves a bullet to the back of the head and a shallow grave, has multilayered command and control as well as logistics and training, and has zero problems turning out tens of thousands of violent people in the street on short notice.

It's a multifaceted problem and there's actually a few things the right has in its favor, but this denial about the scope and nature of the problem isn't helping.
Link Posted: 8/24/2017 12:18:00 AM EST
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I'd say where are the Feds, they infiltrate every other militant organization. Then I realized there's probably some training them.
Link Posted: 8/24/2017 12:18:58 AM EST
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Quit jacking off and kidding yourself. They're building a brainwashed Jannissary army that sees you as subhuman, and they can deploy them 40k+ at a time.
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They may train to fight police who have both arms tied behind their backs by their agency's lawyers but they don't have the capacity to fight fed up armed citizens who no longer GAF.
Quit jacking off and kidding yourself. They're building a brainwashed Jannissary army that sees you as subhuman, and they can deploy them 40k+ at a time.
This.

We are in some serious shit, if the Police and Military stay out of it.

People have no idea what we are facing.

ETA:

And just a FYI, many of the people who purport to be "US" are really "THEM", look at Cruz, Ryan, Romney, McCain.

We need to accept the reality that the Police will be used against the "Right" far more likely than they will the "Left".

I'm NOT SAYING COPS ARE BAD. I REPEAT.

But their Masters are "Them" even if the individual officer are "US".
Link Posted: 8/24/2017 12:21:16 AM EST
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yep , it's all fun and games until people start getting 15 years in federal prison.  they will be buying "explosives" and malware from the feds and catching conspiracy charges most riki tick.

let them have their riots, it just motivates people to vote in midterms.  especially if the economy is good and these retards are on the street breaking windows in oakland.
Link Posted: 8/24/2017 12:21:24 AM EST
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I hope Trump is filling their ranks with feds.

It takes a lot to mobilize the right in any kind of numbers. 
Link Posted: 8/24/2017 12:21:29 AM EST
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They are in some serious shit, if the Police and Military stay out of it.

Leftists have no idea what they are facing.
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Link Posted: 8/24/2017 12:21:53 AM EST
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The left has always had the advantage in street protest organization, especially on the left coast. And yes... they really do believe they are in a righteous struggle against a powerful and evil foe - despite it being the progressive agenda being pushed by all shadowy powerful groups in every corner of the earth.

I wouldn't be intimidated by their numbers - many of the people who went to the event won't be on the streets in any meaningful way, and those middle-class people aren't the ones you have to worry about. However, what I'd like to know is if they are doing any sort of martial arts or combat training. Stick practice, etc. How about pepper spray use... defense, yes, but what about OFFENSE?
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Short answer: yes. They also were being taught certain things that come in handly on an offensive level, as well as tactics that would be very useful for essentially group kidnapping and stomping unwary opposition.
Link Posted: 8/24/2017 12:21:57 AM EST
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No. we are. Trust me.

Are Republican normie conservadad types in flyover country coming out 120+ at a time to learn how to move in a cohesive group and fight off cops together? Are they being indoctrinated that the Aryan Brotherhood are the good guys, that all people left of them are violent commies that deserve every bad thing that happens to them? Because these people sure as hell were being taught the leftist equivalent.
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Hate to admit it but no, because we work.
Link Posted: 8/24/2017 12:22:08 AM EST
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Like vampires you stake them where they live. Start intel gathering. They have strength in numbers? you make em scared to be alone.
Link Posted: 8/24/2017 12:22:57 AM EST
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Thanks for the information.  But this is not news to most of us.  Most leftists are white and of middle or upper-class.  The way I see it, we will be fighting communism for the next few hundred years, provided that our country still exists.  The pull of socialism is that strong.
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What I don't understand is why affluent folks who are already living better than 75% of the country would want socialism. Don't they know their standard of living will have to take a serious, deep cut in order to usher in the "fairness?

Why do people who stand to lose so much from socialism support it with such conviction?
Link Posted: 8/24/2017 12:23:01 AM EST
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One side is absolutely convinced of their righteousness, is actively brainwashing half the country that the other half deserves a bullet to the back of the head and a shallow grave, has multilayered command and control as well as logistics and training, and has zero problems turning out tens of thousands of violent people in the street on short notice.

It's a multifaceted problem and there's actually a few things the right has in its favor, but this denial about the scope and nature of the problem isn't helping.
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I'm from Rural Mississippi. And 120 is indeed something when one location holds 3-4 training events, and there's easily 30-40 venues where training is ongoing.

I used to believe the same as you, then I moved here and got politically active. Then I learned how badly I underestimated the problem.
I mean what are you actually concerned about? That theyre going to capture the WH with 5k dudes?

Dont get me wrong I fucking love these types of threads and infiltrating the nuts but dont get lost in their propaganda or radicalized yourself.
One side is absolutely convinced of their righteousness, is actively brainwashing half the country that the other half deserves a bullet to the back of the head and a shallow grave, has multilayered command and control as well as logistics and training, and has zero problems turning out tens of thousands of violent people in the street on short notice.

It's a multifaceted problem and there's actually a few things the right has in its favor, but this denial about the scope and nature of the problem isn't helping.
And the other side is convinced the left is batshit crazy, but it's too early to shoot the dopey bastards.   If they start any kind of shooting plan the rules change.  
Link Posted: 8/24/2017 12:23:30 AM EST
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Smith, you are only scratching the surface.

I lived through the Watts Riots, the Weather Underground & others.  The shitbirds you met are the superficial Useful Idiots, seen them before.  The Weather Underground was a part of SDS - commies. They recruited useful idiots & faced down the cops with baseball bats & helmets...

The one thing to remember, is that when dealing with commies it is always Explosives at the end game.  Every goddamn time.  The Antifa level you need to look for are the ones getting ready to blow something up.  Then you will be truly scared.

Get familiar with the FALN Commies



Fun Fact - O'Buttwhiff commuted the sentence of Oscar Lopez-Rivera (the FALN Leader) the same day he took care of Bradley Manning.

The Weathermen called for a "white fighting force" to be allied with the "Black Liberation Movement" and other radical movements.  Sound like something you just heard in a meeting?

Start looking for the bomb assholes.  They are close.
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See third post:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1931377_OFFICIAL-Left-Wing-Violence-Hate-Hoax-Thread-Violence-at-Boston-and-Phoenix-.html&page=1

The good news is the majority of  military and police favor Trump.

The meh news is the various militias and border groups have been training and doing their thing long before AntiFa showed up.

The meh meh news is that a large swath of the veteran population is right-wing.

The best news is the members of this group are a drop in the bucket.  Not all the people at Boston were AntiFa.  Let's say the number of counter protesters at Boston were indeed 40,000.  That 6% of that city's population.  Not worth getting worked up over.
Link Posted: 8/24/2017 12:23:39 AM EST
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They are in some serious shit, if the Police and Military stay out of it.

Leftists have no idea what they are facing.
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I usually agree with you but can't this time.

The Left is organized.

The Left is OK with killing "Nazis".

The Left has Political Cover.

The Left has Financial Support.

The Left has Institutional Control.
Link Posted: 8/24/2017 12:24:53 AM EST
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This is why Pinochet was tossing them out of helicopters while they were still art students.
Link Posted: 8/24/2017 12:25:24 AM EST
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No. we are. Trust me.

Are Republican normie conservadad types in flyover country coming out 120+ at a time to learn how to move in a cohesive group and fight off cops together? Are they being indoctrinated that the Aryan Brotherhood are the good guys, that all people left of them are violent commies that deserve every bad thing that happens to them? Because these people sure as hell were being taught the leftist equivalent.
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No. we are. Trust me.

Are Republican normie conservadad types in flyover country coming out 120+ at a time to learn how to move in a cohesive group and fight off cops together? Are they being indoctrinated that the Aryan Brotherhood are the good guys, that all people left of them are violent commies that deserve every bad thing that happens to them? Because these people sure as hell were being taught the leftist equivalent.
Thanks for sharing and doing this. The threat of what would happen to you if caught is very real there so be careful.

appreciate the info, and you are right. They have the numbers...
Link Posted: 8/24/2017 12:25:46 AM EST
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I usually agree with you but can't this time.

The Left is organized.

The Left is OK with killing "Nazis".

The Left has Political Cover.

The Left has Financial Support.

The Left has Institutional Control.
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The moment they (leftists) start killing people is the moment they lose it all for decades.
Link Posted: 8/24/2017 12:25:55 AM EST
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If they can deploy 40k at a time then they win. I'm out. If they have a whole division of violent protesters and the US military won't protect me, then...I surrender, and will pretend to be a leftist convert. The numbers they get is the truly scary thing. Only with years of intense media brainwashing could they get that many idiots to fight to destroy America. How did we get to his point?
Link Posted: 8/24/2017 12:26:09 AM EST
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The way this thing on Saturday is being hyped by the local bay area news I fully expect to see chaos.  There will be conflict, guaranteed.  Expect way more resistance than past bay area rallies.  The news is pushing the false message that this is a white nationalist rally despite the facts.  It doesn't matter, the message has been appropriated,  you are a nazi.  Lot of talk of fucking up nazis on Saturday.  Head on a swivel, wear a helmet (if they allow them), watch your buddy's back.

I heard the news mention that they will be screening for weapons and anything that can be used as a weapon.  I don't know if that includes helmets but they did mention bats, shields, sticks, pepper spray.  The plan is for total separation of both sides with fencing.  Expect the SFPD to be ready to roll Phoenix style with all of the recent events.  

Found the Presidio Access Plan for 8/26.  It lists prohibited items.
8/26 Presidio Access Plan

eta No drones.  lol
Link Posted: 8/24/2017 12:26:20 AM EST
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I wish right wingers would stop showing up.

If its boring, no one will care. 'News' wont care, average people wont care, and finally, they wont care.


And it all goes away
Link Posted: 8/24/2017 12:26:30 AM EST
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Read David Hines' Days of Rage series of tweets/short article he published

it was eye opening for me

a lightly edited version
Link Posted: 8/24/2017 12:26:31 AM EST
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great report, thanks for taking the risk.


This has worried me for a long time. I have crazy leftist relatives and they will occasionally reference stuff like this.


I'm worried, not cause of them, but because of us. They are assembling as cohesive units, and we are doing what we always do,  mostly bitching about it.


I honestly think the only thing that stops a massive long term bloody fighting season will be classifying these assholes as domestic terrorists and letting the law enforcement community basically off the chain to round them up,  put them in jail and charge them with terrorism.


if they keep letting it stew, it's gonna get shit out of hand eventually.


The thing I can't figure out is,  the govt is still acting like WE are the enemies and antifa and these other violent assholes, seem to be largely untouchable with a couple of minor exceptions.
Link Posted: 8/24/2017 12:27:14 AM EST
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Not to down play what you're saying but think about this, antifa got their asses handed to them in their strongest of strongholds (Berkeley) so what do you think will happen when they actually venture into a non-leftist control area?  They have no clue on what they're actually facing! 
Link Posted: 8/24/2017 12:27:15 AM EST
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The moment they (leftists) start killing people is the moment they lose it all for decades.
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they've been killing people for decades
Link Posted: 8/24/2017 12:27:37 AM EST
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This isn't the place to urge people to squad up. On ARFCOM, anybody who teams up with others to fight Communists is a "NOTSIE!!!"
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Or a "Fed". Too many overly paranoid types on here that think everyone in every militia is a federal informant. 

It's either that or you get that "I got mine, fuck ya'll, I ain't helping" attitude. 
Link Posted: 8/24/2017 12:27:48 AM EST
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Well...let them be the first to pop the dust covers. They will never have another peaceful rally interaction. In my thinking, its game on afterwards. Only the violent will show up from then on.

I cant imagine it going that far but, i've been wrong before.
Link Posted: 8/24/2017 12:27:51 AM EST
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I usually agree with you but can't this time.

The Left is organized.

The Left is OK with killing "Nazis".

The Left has Political Cover.

The Left has Financial Support.

The Left has Institutional Control.
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How many of these have the balls to put down their cell phones and pick up a rifle?



They may be able to mobilize 40,000 to take to the streets, but I don't think they can motivate 4000 to put down the phones.
Link Posted: 8/24/2017 12:28:18 AM EST
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When I was in the 7th grade, there was a kid who had been held back a year named Anthony Perry. Anthony was a cool dude, the guy who didn't give a fuck about anything, and everyone wanted to be like him because he was so cool. But Anthony was also a bully, and thought it was his duty to point out other people's flaws and generally bully people who were different, or didn't wear the right clothing, or listen to the right music, or didn't play sports. People liked Anthony, and Anthony claimed he was trying to make everyone better.

One of the people Anthony picked on frequently was Jeff Campbell, a guy who liked computers and anime movies, listened to White Zombie and NIN, and was one of the old-style goth kids back before emo was a thing. The problem with Jeff, however, wasn't that he was unfairly targeted. It was that he fought other people's fights for them like the mythical white knight.

One day in science class, Anthony was picking on another kid for the basic reasons, and Jeff, like so many times before, tried to white knight his way into battle. Also like so many times before, Jeff thought he was going to step in between them, make some threats, and a teacher would break them up. Life would move on. But not this time. This time the teacher was out of the room, and the two started to fight. During the struggle, something happened to Anthony and he couldn't breathe. I thought Jeff throat punched him, but regardless the result was they were both suspended, the cops were called, and Jeff was moved to a different class to separate the two for the year. For the remainder of the year, Anthony kept up his bullying and making shitty remarks to people, and I didn't regularly see Jeff again until high school when we had a study hall together.

Point is this: Antifa is like Anthony. They think it is their job to tell everyone else what they're doing wrong in life, and they make little comments all day hoping someone will take the bait. People think Antifa is cool or hip or in style, they give zero fucks about the real world, and their comments are accepted by the populace as being correct even if they're mean and controlling.

Jeff the goth kid is like the neo-Nazis and their cute little shields and white-shirt-khanki-pant uniforms. They're weird, nobody really likes them, but we put up with them anyway as long as they stay out of our way. They come into an argument as it is winding down and try to white knight while forcing their "save the white children" bullshit on otherwise sensible people.

If Antifa is not provoked, they will go away while the rest of us keep voting into power those who have actual authority to maintain our rights, like Trump. The neo-Nazis that showed up at C-ville provoked Antifa, and ended up losing because they had more to lose. Nobody even realized they still existed until C-ville, and now they're getting dogpiled by the press while the sensible people on the conservative side of the discussion are being labeled Nazis regardless of actual position.

Milo provoked Antifa.

Spencer provoked Antifa.

Neo-Nazis provoked Antifa.

Just leave them alone, let them grow up, and they will go away like every other spoiled bully in history.
Link Posted: 8/24/2017 12:28:30 AM EST
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I usually agree with you but can't this time.

The Left is organized.

The Left is OK with killing "Nazis".

The Left has Political Cover.

The Left has Financial Support.

The Left has Institutional Control.
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yet they have no balls.  the purple haired kindergarten teacher isn't mixing up tatp in the kitchen plotting to blow up righty.   in earlier times they would plant car bombs and assassinating  people.  now thanks to the intel state they help build all the means to coordinate that constitute evidence of conspiracy.   their shit fit is basically a get out the vote program at this point.
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Not to down play what you're saying but think about this, antifa got their asses handed to them in their strongest of strongholds (Berkeley) so what do you think will happen when they actually venture into a non-leftist control area?  They have no clue on what they're actually facing! 
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the most prepared guys I know are not on our side.
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Well...let them be the first to pop the dust covers. They will never have another peaceful rally interaction. In my thinking, its game on afterwards. Only the violent will show up from then on.

I cant imagine it going that far but, i've been wrong before.
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This is the way i see it.
Link Posted: 8/24/2017 12:29:41 AM EST
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And the other side is convinced the left is batshit crazy, but it's too early to shoot the dopey bastards.   If they start any kind of shooting plan the rules change.  
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This is pretty much it. 

We all have jobs, families, mortgages, etc. We don't want to go to prison. When the left gets so violent that the police have their hands full and can no longer keep order such that you can't work because your family needs protection, then you will see the right go on offensive. But not before then.
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If they can deploy 40k at a time then they win. I'm out. If they have a whole division of violent protesters and the US military won't protect me, then...I surrender, and will pretend to be a leftist convert. The numbers they get is the truly scary thing. Only with years of intense media brainwashing could they get that many idiots to fight to destroy America. How did we get to his point?
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I don't think they will accept your surrender, they will just kill you. 
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Well, it starts with pulling heads out of the sand. However we can't(nor should we) copy their tactics, but instead focus on our strengths in context of the technological and sociological changes over the last 10 years that provide a tremendous amount of flexibility.

Again, it's a multifaceted problem. I'm still working ideas out and talking with people, but frankly IMO their strength is also a weakness; their sophisticated support system was built for a less interconnected world, and thus less flexible and responsive in many ways.

The instructor did say one particular thing that IMO represents a hole we can drive a truck through, and apparently no one else in the room caught it-because their brains simply don't work in that fashion. Sorry, not sharing that one outside of my crew while we work on exploiting it.
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If they can deploy 40k at a time then they win. I'm out. If they have a whole division of violent protesters and the US military won't protect me, then...I surrender, and will pretend to be a leftist convert. The numbers they get it the truly scary thing. Only with years of intense media brainwashing could they get that many idiots to fight to destroy America. How did we get to his point?
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They blast propaganda about some injustice, a group of these hardcore commies organizes a demonstration in a major city next to a massive college campus under the guise of fighting some great evil boogeyman, uses the college mob to bolster the progress of their actual agenda.
I would think these are the only places where they could mobilize such numbers, I'm assuming Boston is the reference point for that number.
 Yes, conservatives in major cities are screwed.
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How many of these have the balls to put down their cell phones and pick up a rifle?

http://c8.nrostatic.com/sites/default/files/styles/original_image_with_cropping/public/uploaded/antifa-protest-movement-roots-left-wing-political-violence.jpg?itok=jRACsClR

They may be able to mobilize 40,000 to take to the streets, but I don't think they can motivate 4000 to put down the phones.
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I usually agree with you but can't this time.

The Left is organized.

The Left is OK with killing "Nazis".

The Left has Political Cover.

The Left has Financial Support.

The Left has Institutional Control.
How many of these have the balls to put down their cell phones and pick up a rifle?

http://c8.nrostatic.com/sites/default/files/styles/original_image_with_cropping/public/uploaded/antifa-protest-movement-roots-left-wing-political-violence.jpg?itok=jRACsClR

They may be able to mobilize 40,000 to take to the streets, but I don't think they can motivate 4000 to put down the phones.
Historical Trends doesn't seem to agree with you, but it does with me.

The Left wins because they are group people, they have no principles, and are OK with violence.

The Right loses because we are individualists, have principles, and try to avoid violence.
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How many of these have the balls to put down their cell phones and pick up a rifle?

http://c8.nrostatic.com/sites/default/files/styles/original_image_with_cropping/public/uploaded/antifa-protest-movement-roots-left-wing-political-violence.jpg?itok=jRACsClR

They may be able to mobilize 40,000 to take to the streets, but I don't think they can motivate 4000 to put down the phones.
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At least half of the people in that picture are media.
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Smith, you are only scratching the surface.

I lived through the Watts Riots, the Weather Underground & others.  The shitbirds you met are the superficial Useful Idiots, seen them before.  The Weather Underground was a part of SDS - commies. They recruited useful idiots & faced down the cops with baseball bats & helmets...

The one thing to remember, is that when dealing with commies it is always Explosives at the end game.  Every goddamn time.  The Antifa level you need to look for are the ones getting ready to blow something up.  Then you will be truly scared.

Get familiar with the FALN Commies

Fun Fact - O'Buttwhiff commuted the sentence of Oscar Lopez-Rivera (the FALN Leader) the same day he took care of Bradley Manning.

The Weathermen called for a "white fighting force" to be allied with the "Black Liberation Movement" and other radical movements.  Sound like something you just heard in a meeting?

Start looking for the bomb assholes.  They are close.
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Smith, you are only scratching the surface.

I lived through the Watts Riots, the Weather Underground & others.  The shitbirds you met are the superficial Useful Idiots, seen them before.  The Weather Underground was a part of SDS - commies. They recruited useful idiots & faced down the cops with baseball bats & helmets...

The one thing to remember, is that when dealing with commies it is always Explosives at the end game.  Every goddamn time.  The Antifa level you need to look for are the ones getting ready to blow something up.  Then you will be truly scared.

Get familiar with the FALN Commies

FALN, which was active from 1974-1983, was one of the most prolific terrorist organizations in U.S. history, perpetrating nearly 150 bombings on U.S. targets and a number armed robberies, according to the FBI.
Fun Fact - O'Buttwhiff commuted the sentence of Oscar Lopez-Rivera (the FALN Leader) the same day he took care of Bradley Manning.

The Weathermen called for a "white fighting force" to be allied with the "Black Liberation Movement" and other radical movements.  Sound like something you just heard in a meeting?

Start looking for the bomb assholes.  They are close.
Before he passed, Pat Rogers was talking constantly about how Days of Rage was here again. Damn I wish I could ask him so much right now.
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I've wandered into one.  Close enough to pay attention.  I don't want to say too much

EESmith is 100% right about the sincerity 

I noticed a few concealed carriers in the group and they had a drone out front.  It very obviously followed me for a bit as I left.
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One side is absolutely convinced of their righteousness, is actively brainwashing half the country that the other half deserves a bullet to the back of the head and a shallow grave, has multilayered command and control as well as logistics and training, and has zero problems turning out tens of thousands of violent people in the street on short notice.

It's a multifaceted problem and there's actually a few things the right has in its favor, but this denial about the scope and nature of the problem isn't helping.
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I guess my point is, who cares if they all come out and burn down their liberal cities?

They aren't winning hearts or minds by doing these things.

While it's easy to be complacent, and I definitely agree with being prepared, what do you suggest? We all head to these rallies and fight them in the street?
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meh.  she had shitty luck to get run over. had she not got smooshed the press echo chamber would be less active.  i support her right to speak, i support the right of other dipshits to speak.  I support jailing or killing people to maintain the right for idiots to speak. i support my right not to give a fuck about any of them. window breaking black block berkley dipshits are nothing new.   when it comes time for real violence the group who controls the power of the state to sanction violence wins.  

this is cindy sheehan, big march drama with a press on meth.  antifa is entertainment.  turn off the ability to process a pci swipe in sfo and it would be lord of the flies in 12 hours or less.  4 retards with an excavator could give the area something else to do, like try to find water and food.  

don't fall for the hype.
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she didn't have "shitty luck", she jumped right on the back of the car and attacked it as he tried to unass the place.  She was in attack mode, not passive bystander.   Had she not attacked the car, she would not have been hit.
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I wish right wingers would stop showing up.

If its boring, no one will care. 'News' wont care, average people wont care, and finally, they wont care.


And it all goes away
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Bingo. The media isn't going to show 200 Antifa protesters blocking traffic and being general assholes to the normies.

But they love to show a clash between Antifa and alt-right because it gives them enough video to paint the narrative that Antifa was just doing what is right even if their methods are wrong.
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I live in the Seattle area and have seen people I know getting sucked into the "everyone's a Nazi" narrative. I know one person who has openly stated that he would be fine with the idea of killing me and my family "when the class war comes." It is spreading.
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Well, it starts with pulling heads out of the sand. However we can't(nor should we) copy their tactics, but instead focus on our strengths in context of the technological and sociological changes over the last 10 years that provide a tremendous amount of flexibility.

Again, it's a multifaceted problem. I'm still working ideas out and talking with people, but frankly IMO their strength is also a weakness; their sophisticated support system was built for a less interconnected world, and thus less flexible and responsive in many ways.

The instructor did say one particular thing that IMO represents a hole we can drive a truck through, and apparently no one else in the room caught it-because their brains simply don't work in that fashion. Sorry, not sharing that one outside of my crew while we work on exploiting it.
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They definitely have some C3I issues that could be exploited, but this is not the place to discuss it - we know they lurk here.
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At least half of the people in that picture are media.
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How many of these have the balls to put down their cell phones and pick up a rifle?

http://c8.nrostatic.com/sites/default/files/styles/original_image_with_cropping/public/uploaded/antifa-protest-movement-roots-left-wing-political-violence.jpg?itok=jRACsClR

They may be able to mobilize 40,000 to take to the streets, but I don't think they can motivate 4000 to put down the phones.
At least half of the people in that picture are media.
And that half count. They are there and with them and used to bolster the numbers.
Link Posted: 8/24/2017 12:35:43 AM EST
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meh.  she had shitty luck to get run over.  had she not got smooshed the press echo chamber would be less active.  i support her right to speak, i support the right of other dipshits to speak.  I support jailing or killing people to maintain the right for idiots to speak. i support my right not to give a fuck about any of them. window breaking black block berkley dipshits are nothing new.   when it comes time for real violence the group who controls the power of the state to sanction violence wins.  

this is cindy sheehan, big march drama with a press on meth.  antifa is entertainment.  turn off the ability to process a pci swipe in sfo and it would be lord of the flies in 12 hours or less.  4 retards with an excavator could give the area something else to do, like try to find water and food.  

don't fall for the hype.
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Let me put it this way: I felt slightly sorry for Heather Heyer before, but now that I've seen how and what she was trained on, it's a 110% fact she was the enemy of America just as much as Antifa. Antifa is used as their strike force, while the non-Antifa protestors are their tier 2 units that stress the cops to capacity while providing mass for Antifa to hide in.

They're all equally guilty.
meh.  she had shitty luck to get run over.  had she not got smooshed the press echo chamber would be less active.  i support her right to speak, i support the right of other dipshits to speak.  I support jailing or killing people to maintain the right for idiots to speak. i support my right not to give a fuck about any of them. window breaking black block berkley dipshits are nothing new.   when it comes time for real violence the group who controls the power of the state to sanction violence wins.  

this is cindy sheehan, big march drama with a press on meth.  antifa is entertainment.  turn off the ability to process a pci swipe in sfo and it would be lord of the flies in 12 hours or less.  4 retards with an excavator could give the area something else to do, like try to find water and food.  

don't fall for the hype.
Antifa has supplanted the Klan as the paramilitary wing of the Democratic party, and their job in fully converged heavily leftist jurisdictions is to shut down dissent they can't get the cops to do on a reliable basis. The non-Antifa protestor types serve as the de facto support battalions, and just as important to their success.

I'm still going to the rallies this weekend, but it's looking like they're setting us up between the rhetoric and the planning that's happening.
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I usually agree with you but can't this time.

The Left is organized.

The Left is OK with killing "Nazis".

The Left has Political Cover.

The Left has Financial Support.

The Left has Institutional Control.
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No. The right does. For now.

Going by what has happened in the past... in the event of civil unrest, the left will eat their own, break their local store windows, and loot their own neighborhoods.
Link Posted: 8/24/2017 12:36:33 AM EST
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she didn't have "shitty luck", she jumped right on the back of the car and attacked it as he tried to unass the place.  She was in attack mode, not passive bystander.   Had she not attacked the car, she would not have been hit.
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meh.  she had shitty luck to get run over. had she not got smooshed the press echo chamber would be less active.  i support her right to speak, i support the right of other dipshits to speak.  I support jailing or killing people to maintain the right for idiots to speak. i support my right not to give a fuck about any of them. window breaking black block berkley dipshits are nothing new.   when it comes time for real violence the group who controls the power of the state to sanction violence wins.  

this is cindy sheehan, big march drama with a press on meth.  antifa is entertainment.  turn off the ability to process a pci swipe in sfo and it would be lord of the flies in 12 hours or less.  4 retards with an excavator could give the area something else to do, like try to find water and food.  

don't fall for the hype.
she didn't have "shitty luck", she jumped right on the back of the car and attacked it as he tried to unass the place.  She was in attack mode, not passive bystander.   Had she not attacked the car, she would not have been hit.
Was she the one that got peeled off the car on the truck?  I've wondered because that looked lethal.  I had heard she was in front of the car but hadn't heard positively where she was.
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I guess my point is, who cares if they all come out and burn down their liberal cities?

They aren't winning hearts or minds by doing these things.

While it's easy to be complacent, and I definitely agree with being prepared, what do you suggest? We all head to these rallies and fight them in the street?
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One side is absolutely convinced of their righteousness, is actively brainwashing half the country that the other half deserves a bullet to the back of the head and a shallow grave, has multilayered command and control as well as logistics and training, and has zero problems turning out tens of thousands of violent people in the street on short notice.

It's a multifaceted problem and there's actually a few things the right has in its favor, but this denial about the scope and nature of the problem isn't helping.
I guess my point is, who cares if they all come out and burn down their liberal cities?

They aren't winning hearts or minds by doing these things.

While it's easy to be complacent, and I definitely agree with being prepared, what do you suggest? We all head to these rallies and fight them in the street?
It may well come to that. I am so glad I'm old and no longer give a fuck whether I live or die.
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