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Posted: 9/5/2004 4:24:07 AM EDT
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Contact his command ASAP, and let them know that he has defrauded you.
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Posted: 9/5/2004 4:42:46 AM EDT
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I was hoping that would be a last resort as i hate causing career related problems over personal issues. It doesn't look like he is going to leave me any choice in the matter through.
A PHONE CALL CAN FIX ALL OF THIS LEW |
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Posted: 9/5/2004 4:55:38 AM EDT
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I can certainly understand that. It isn't likely that his career would be ruined if his command gets involved, unless he simply refuses to do the right thing. However, they will be able to take more action than most, including his wife. They SHOULD investigate the matter and take action from there. If all you want is your money, or your rifle, back and an apology, they can make it happen. He may be able to tell his wife and his buddies that he is not going to do anything, but he can't tell his CO that. If he is going to seperate soon, then now is the time to contact them. If nothing else, they can put him on legal hold until the issue is resolved. |
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Posted: 9/5/2004 5:01:22 AM EDT
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there are some others issues involved with his command concering his family that i don't want to aggravate right now. That is why i would really like to talk to him. There is no reason this HAS to get ugly. It can be resolved. I am really not that hard to deal with. Hell i gave him 18 months to do a simple job. And have not heard from HIM in almost a year.
mike |
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Posted: 9/5/2004 5:09:00 AM EDT
[#5]
Makes sense. Whatever the course of action, I hope it works out for you.
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Posted: 9/5/2004 5:18:25 AM EDT
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Since he could have called off the deal and sent your money back if he couldn't complete the job due to other commitments, I would say he ran off with your money.
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Posted: 9/5/2004 5:20:58 AM EDT
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That is pretty much my feeling at this point as well. This is my last attempt to have him contact me. After this it's going to get nasty. mike |
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Posted: 9/5/2004 7:00:41 AM EDT
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After reading this thread i´m pissed off too haveI hope that the court kicks this guys ass HARD it´s not the first time i read stories like this in a forum!! /Magnus |
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Posted: 9/5/2004 7:39:46 AM EDT
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still waiting
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Posted: 9/5/2004 7:48:35 AM EDT
[#10]
 I don't know what to say.
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Posted: 9/5/2004 7:52:41 AM EDT
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What an asswipe.
Thanks for posting his name for the rest of us. And best of luck. |
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Posted: 9/5/2004 7:54:26 AM EDT
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seems to me that if this fellow ever wants to have anything to do with the firearms community again that he should address this ASAP.
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Posted: 9/5/2004 7:55:29 AM EDT
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Mike, I know you're anxious and rightfully so. But if he hasn't logged on since 8/31... he might not have access to this thread yet. I would suggest one more email and an IM with the link to this thread if you have not done so already and give him 24 hours from his next login to contact you.
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Posted: 9/5/2004 8:16:29 AM EDT
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i have emailed him yet again.
A couple of staff have also emailed him the link to this thread. Frankly i don't have much hope he will make this right at this point. He hasn't given me much reason to. I talked to GB about this 3 months ago and told him it was coming. Lew has had PLEANTY of time and chances to get in touch with me. mike |
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Posted: 9/5/2004 8:28:59 AM EDT
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That being said: Broken Arrow, Broken Arrow!!! |
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Posted: 9/5/2004 8:46:53 AM EDT
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Wow, Beer_Slayer, you have ALOT more patience and compassion than I do. I second the motion for contacting his COC. That kinda money ain't no joke, I'd have ratted him to his C.O. a loooooong time ago.
I'd call everyone in his COC, 1sgt, C. Cmdr, Plt.Sgt, etc. I don't know why you're giving him anymore chances dude, its been a long time, he screwed you, time for you to screw him back! Good luck man, hope it works out for you. btw not that it means much, but you just gained alot of cool points in this soldier's book. Too bad shitbags like that make the rest of us look bad. :( |
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Posted: 9/5/2004 10:23:52 AM EDT
[#17]
Amazing!
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Posted: 9/5/2004 10:36:48 AM EDT
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Good luck man.. I know what it is like when a friend you consider a friend owes you money. My BEST friend i've known for 17 years owes me 300 bucks.. but everytime he comes over to pay he says some stupid shit like "i forgot my wallet" he just bought a BRAND NEW Indian motorcycle.. i know those are 10k or more. He called me yesterday to say he got his new $$ bike.. I just sighed and hung the phone up.
Good luck. |
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Posted: 9/5/2004 12:30:27 PM EDT
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when i loan money to a freind i just consider it a gift. If i get it back great if not no problem.
There is a BIG difference in PAYING someone to do a job and getting the shaft on delivery. Of course, of those i consider close freinds this would not be an issue anyway. LEW I AM STILL WAITING mike |
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Posted: 9/5/2004 12:34:06 PM EDT
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That is very admirable. A rare but true philosophy. You certainly set the example, Mike. |
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Posted: 9/5/2004 12:35:44 PM EDT
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Yeah if I loaned my buddy some money that would be different. But I sold him one of my pistols cheaper than anywhere else and he keeps putting me off.
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Posted: 9/5/2004 12:40:37 PM EDT
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Actually i got burned so many times from deadbeats i considered freinds it was just easier to write it off up front than get an ulcer over it. Trust me i am no "example" setter. They crew i hang with now this is not a problem. We argue over who owes who at lunch let alone any real money involved. mike |
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Posted: 9/5/2004 12:53:42 PM EDT
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ahh yes, the fighting among true friends... good luck with everything man- that's a lot of money and you've been more then patient with him... -Roth |
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Posted: 9/5/2004 12:58:47 PM EDT
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Good luck Mike, hope he contacts you soon.
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Posted: 9/5/2004 1:04:40 PM EDT
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the shitty thing is he is prolly hourding huge piles of cash being over there (no income tax, hazardus duty pay, BAH, etc.)
he (or his wife) can pay you back one thing though, if he's millitary you are guaranteed a successful garnishment on his wages if you get that  sick 'em slayer! 
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Posted: 9/5/2004 1:07:18 PM EDT
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he is stateside. Just not at home.
When i was in there was also a pretty high emphasis put on the NCO code of conduct. Hopefully that is still true for sr nco's. |
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Posted: 9/5/2004 1:17:54 PM EDT
[#27]
I hate to hear that. Tagged to see if it gets resolved.
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Posted: 9/5/2004 1:23:55 PM EDT
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Beer slayer,
Your 'freind' has obviously had cash problems and doesn't know how to tell you that he's blown the money and cannot pay it back right now. Flogging him in front of the boys will only make it worse. And court? forget it- that will cost you enven more money, and you wont get anything you couldnt get otherwise Id suggest that you settle down a bit, let it find its way to conclusion, as clearly he knows how serious hosing you for a measly 1200 is......... and will REALLY cost to continue ignoring It happens Bro. Sorry your out the jack-for now but you made your point and it will sort itself out in your favor......... Im sure |
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Posted: 9/5/2004 1:41:53 PM EDT
[#29]
Sorry,
but i have given him EVERY chance to contact me and TELL ME ABOUT IT. I am more than willing to talk and work it out. Sadly a public flogging seems to be the only resource i have left. As for court, BUNK, i will get my money and court fees from him, he is active duty and a judgement WILL garnish his wages if he is found at fault. If he has money problems i would have been more than sympathetic 8-10 months ago. Avoiding me is not the answer and shows him to be a coward or a thief. Which is true is up to him. mike |
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Posted: 9/5/2004 1:46:28 PM EDT
[#30]
+1 on this and a btt |
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Posted: 9/5/2004 2:06:41 PM EDT
[#31]
I looked up his unit. Apparently this SSG is a pretty high speed marksman (or maybe riflesmith), at least in the eyes of the US Army Reserve.
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Posted: 9/5/2004 2:24:19 PM EDT
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i can give him his propers on that. He is VERY high speed in that area.
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Posted: 9/5/2004 2:37:55 PM EDT
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This is what I was saying. This guy isn't SSG Schmuck from Corn Pone, ID...I don't understand why he's doing this. |
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Posted: 9/5/2004 2:39:56 PM EDT
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Heheheh, it's like a soap opera for guys.......tick...tock....tick.........BOOOOOOOOOOM!
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Posted: 9/5/2004 3:28:40 PM EDT
[#35]
i can't figure this out!
lew is a good guy. this seems totally out of character. good luck, mike. i hope lew makes good for ya. |
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Posted: 9/5/2004 3:34:31 PM EDT
[#36]
me too. i am really disgusted with having to go this route 
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Posted: 9/5/2004 3:37:23 PM EDT
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Here are some more helpful resources:
www.dfas.mil/money/garnish/mcdafact.htm www.dfas.mil/money/garnish/mcdaqa.htm www.dior.whs.mil/forms/DD2653.PDF |
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Posted: 9/5/2004 3:42:35 PM EDT
[#38]
Thanks,
that should save me some legwork after the court case. COME ON LEW MAKE THIS GOOD!!! |
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Posted: 9/5/2004 3:47:27 PM EDT
[#39]
This sounds like the democratic response. Just how in the hell could it get any worse for beer slayer? The loss of hard earned money and the betrayal of a friend Easy to settle down when it aint your "measly 1200" dollars |
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Posted: 9/5/2004 3:56:33 PM EDT
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This is lame.. it's true that Beer got shafted, but using the board against someone isn't why it's here. If he owes you the money, take him to small claims, but don't use a bunch of random internet yahoos to sit as judge and jury on something they have no personal knowledge of.
In other words, my name's Paul, it's between y'all. 
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Posted: 9/5/2004 4:26:47 PM EDT
[#41]
Hope this works out TBS.
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Posted: 9/5/2004 4:35:39 PM EDT
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This is an attempt to get him to settle this so we don't HAVE to go to court. Not to mention i don't want anyone else to have to go through this. Not to mention had it not been for this board i'd never have dealt with him to begin with. |
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Posted: 9/5/2004 4:37:37 PM EDT
[#43]
on the contrary, i think he's doing the right thing. he's giving the guy one last chance to make it right before taking him to court/going to his employer/etc... and since the guy is Staff here, it seems very appropriate, I don't htink the owner's of this site want someone like that running their boards. |
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Posted: 9/5/2004 4:49:34 PM EDT
[#44]
Damn, Mike. I hate it for ya. Guess things like this tell you exactly who is and who isn't a real friend. Can't believe he won't even make a phone call.
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Posted: 9/5/2004 4:52:11 PM EDT
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That's unacceptable. I don't know who this person is, but they should refund you your $1200 immediately. Having a whole year to build it and not even simply contacting you... well, that's just lame to put it short. |
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Posted: 9/5/2004 4:54:32 PM EDT
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Hey Mike, I think I can thread your AR barrels for you a little quicker than 18 months, and a little cheaper than $1200.00 if it makes you feel any better. You know where I live too so you could always come up here and beat my ass!
---HIJACK--- BTW, My father and I are going to the Goodyear range tomorrow. We're meeting here at 10:00 AM if you want to go shoot some. They have the 200 yard range completed now. ---HIGHJACK OFF--- Balming |
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Posted: 9/5/2004 4:57:37 PM EDT
[#47]
Good luck with this. I hope it will be resolved SOON!
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Posted: 9/5/2004 5:01:07 PM EDT
[#48]
Damn!
 Lew! Say it ain't so. Please make it right.
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Posted: 9/5/2004 5:08:22 PM EDT
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I'm testing new bio info, might as well do it here to bump this.
Balming |
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Posted: 9/5/2004 5:22:08 PM EDT
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Since you are in touch with his wife call her back up and have her send you $3000.00 of his guns that you will gladly return on reciept of your money or your order.
Hunter out.... |
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