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Posted: 1/24/2014 5:55:54 AM EDT
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Get a woodstove insert and never look back This. With most fireplaces, most of the heat is lost up the chimney. |
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Posted: 1/24/2014 5:59:30 AM EDT
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Wow, that is gorgeous. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The rest of the house is cooling off because the fire is getting the temp high enough to prevent the thermostat from kicking on, and the fireplace isn't heating the rest of the house as effectively. Get an insert, or better yet, one of these. http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b296/forester1/HouseRxn/DSC_2703.jpg That looks familiar... 
<a href="http://s240.photobucket.com/user/ZX2_R/media/GOPR0014.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff141/ZX2_R/GOPR0014.jpg</a> 
It was 85 in my house the night before last. Fuck the cold. Wow, that is gorgeous. This is what used to be there. 
I had the same problem you do. The open fireplace does nothing for heat. We replaced it with the Encore stove about two years ago. My $400 December electric bill was less than half both years since. |
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Posted: 1/24/2014 6:13:41 AM EDT
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Never heard of priming. Interesting.
I just put a couple of logs, maybe a tad bit of charcoal, and some twigs. Then soak it with charcoal starter. Works like a charm. |
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Posted: 1/24/2014 8:19:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Never heard of priming. Interesting. I just put a couple of logs, maybe a tad bit of charcoal, and some twigs. Then soak it with charcoal starter. Works like a charm. Priming isn't required on a well designed & installed chimney that has the proper draft... On a good system, if you open the damper air should immediately being drafting up the chimney. |
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Posted: 1/24/2014 9:51:14 AM EDT
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get a wood stove. Try not to get one the requires electric.
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Posted: 1/24/2014 9:56:39 AM EDT
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Get a woodstove insert and never look back This--with a blower. 
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Posted: 1/24/2014 11:14:53 AM EDT
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They all have one thing in common that I don't have......a complete enclosure. Damn. Quote HistoryQuoted:
They all have one thing in common that I don't have......a complete enclosure. Damn. Most of them have a long, convoluted chimney path that makes several passes through the masonry for maximum heat extraction - Which brings up the obvious question: How do you clean the chimney? |
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Posted: 1/24/2014 11:25:14 AM EDT
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yeah. fireplaces are great for romance, and watching a fire, but suck at heating.
a wood burning insert will REALLY, make a huge difference. as far as heating the house. but you will lose the fire watching aspect. i kind of doubt you want to lose the watching the fire aspect, so just suck it up and enjoy your fire and the oddities that surround it.
nice fireplace though. ! 
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Posted: 1/24/2014 11:28:42 AM EDT
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The rest of the house is cooling off because the fire is getting the temp high enough to prevent the thermostat from kicking on, and the fireplace isn't heating the rest of the house as effectively. Get an insert, or better yet, one of these. http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b296/forester1/HouseRxn/DSC_2703.jpg is that a fireplace on the other side of that wall??? i am considering doing the same thing. building a fireplace in the center of the house, basement up. then using a wood stove like yours in the basement, and another in the kitchen, / or a antique cooking wood stove, and use the fireplace in the living room. also...... what kind of wood burner is that? |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 3:49:35 AM EDT
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Most of them have a long, convoluted chimney path that makes several passes through the masonry for maximum heat extraction - Which brings up the obvious question: How do you clean the chimney? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They all have one thing in common that I don't have......a complete enclosure. Damn. Most of them have a long, convoluted chimney path that makes several passes through the masonry for maximum heat extraction - Which brings up the obvious question: How do you clean the chimney? I hire a professional. He gives me a discount during the summer. Cost about $125.00. Money well spent. |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 3:52:52 AM EDT
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Which will be about 1 million times more efficient than your open hearth. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Get a woodstove insert and never look back Which will be about 1 million times more efficient than your open hearth. This! My folks still live in their old, uninsulated house. We used to get the fireplace going so hard you could HEAR the air rushing thru/around the old, single pane, wood framed windows in the rest of the house. Could damn near fly a kite in the living room! |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 3:56:23 AM EDT
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Lifetime warranty=buy once cry once. I have that insert in an unfinished, soon to be finished basement and when its running it keeps both floors (3600sqft) warm. I do get my wood free from my lot so thats a factor. Last few years we averaged +-500 gal of oil for heat and hot water. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Starting at $3,273  Lifetime warranty=buy once cry once. I have that insert in an unfinished, soon to be finished basement and when its running it keeps both floors (3600sqft) warm. I do get my wood free from my lot so thats a factor. Last few years we averaged +-500 gal of oil for heat and hot water. people bitch about 3-4 grand for something to make their life better but just wait till you see the "look what toys I bought with my tax refund" posts coming up..... |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 3:57:04 AM EDT
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A woodstove in your basement is the most efficient. I'm typing this from an Amish built house, wood furnace in basement.(no duct work, floor vents) Used to have to get basement to 100F, to get first floor to 75-80F to get upstairs/bedrooms to60-65F. Added a woodstove to first floor and MUCH better. 
ETA: a $50, Craigslist woodstove. Doesn't need to cost $3-5K, but I spent another $1200-1500 on building a chase, SS Duravent, stone, etc |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 5:07:59 AM EDT
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I hire a professional. He gives me a discount during the summer. Cost about $125.00. Money well spent. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They all have one thing in common that I don't have......a complete enclosure. Damn. Most of them have a long, convoluted chimney path that makes several passes through the masonry for maximum heat extraction - Which brings up the obvious question: How do you clean the chimney? I hire a professional. He gives me a discount during the summer. Cost about $125.00. Money well spent. Me too. Like I mentioned in the OP my chimney is about 30 ft so they came out with some different contraptions and took about 2 hours cleaning the thing. |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 5:09:57 AM EDT
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people bitch about 3-4 grand for something to make their life better but just wait till you see the "look what toys I bought with my tax refund" posts coming up..... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Starting at $3,273 Lifetime warranty=buy once cry once. I have that insert in an unfinished, soon to be finished basement and when its running it keeps both floors (3600sqft) warm. I do get my wood free from my lot so thats a factor. Last few years we averaged +-500 gal of oil for heat and hot water. people bitch about 3-4 grand for something to make their life better but just wait till you see the "look what toys I bought with my tax refund" posts coming up..... That's a legit post. Sadly, mine will be, "here's part of the deck, and now the other dog is off leash trained." Both will make happier, but not exactly toys. |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 7:05:27 PM EDT
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Some fireplace grates are to low..... Try raising it with a brick under each foot.... It's surprising what 2-3"s will do......
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Posted: 1/25/2014 7:11:58 PM EDT
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Does anyone with a wood stove have a cold air inlet?
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Posted: 1/25/2014 7:19:33 PM EDT
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I am a Chimney Sweep by trade. A traditional masonry fireplace is about 25% efficient. In comparison, wood stoves today are mostly in the 65-88% range. No comparison. |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 7:32:35 PM EDT
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I am a Chimney Sweep by trade. A traditional masonry fireplace is about 25% efficient. In comparison, wood stoves today are mostly in the 65-88% range. No comparison. Your thoughts on a cold air intake for a wood stove? |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 7:35:45 PM EDT
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Get a woodstove insert and never look back This! +1 Wood stove inserts these days are extremely efficient. |
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Posted: 1/27/2014 8:10:09 AM EDT
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I am a Chimney Sweep by trade. A traditional masonry fireplace is about 25% efficient. In comparison, wood stoves today are mostly in the 65-88% range. No comparison. Your thoughts on those silicone chimney toppers that clamp down when not in use. |
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Posted: 1/27/2014 8:20:35 AM EDT
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people bitch about 3-4 grand for something to make their life better but just wait till you see the "look what toys I bought with my tax refund" posts coming up..... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Starting at $3,273 Lifetime warranty=buy once cry once. I have that insert in an unfinished, soon to be finished basement and when its running it keeps both floors (3600sqft) warm. I do get my wood free from my lot so thats a factor. Last few years we averaged +-500 gal of oil for heat and hot water. people bitch about 3-4 grand for something to make their life better but just wait till you see the "look what toys I bought with my tax refund" posts coming up..... Not all of us can drop that kind of coin without blinking and tax refund well probably put a new roof on the house. |
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Posted: 1/27/2014 8:41:05 AM EDT
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Priming isn't required on a well designed & installed chimney that has the proper draft... On a good system, if you open the damper air should immediately being drafting up the chimney. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Never heard of priming. Interesting. I just put a couple of logs, maybe a tad bit of charcoal, and some twigs. Then soak it with charcoal starter. Works like a charm. Priming isn't required on a well designed & installed chimney that has the proper draft... On a good system, if you open the damper air should immediately being drafting up the chimney. And liquid accelerants are a major NO-NO! on a fireplace. Cold air can easily cause the vapors to settle and 'spill' out around your feet. Lighting it will cause a flash over at least, and an explosion if you are not lucky. Never use a liquid starter on a fireplace. If you need something to help light a fire try this: 1 large TBSP lard 1 paper towel Place the lard on the towel, roll it to be shaped like a cigar. Light one end. The oil will give you a safe fuel source and the paper towel provides a 'wick' to hold the flame. I've been using a fireplace for 20 years. I burn 6-8 cords per winter. TRG |
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