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Posted: 4/3/2016 6:03:46 PM EDT
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McCain was old, tired, poorly advised, a RINO and broke, If you voted for him you were a racist. Romney was running against a siting US president. Cruz can neutralize the Hispanic vote for the dems, and unless the blacks (African Americans?) come out the way they did for Obama Hillary will probably lose. She is a weak candidate. If Cruz picks Kasich as a VP they can probably swing Ohio |
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Posted: 4/3/2016 6:07:37 PM EDT
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Pretty sure a Cruz/Kasich ticket would not win PA. As of a few weeks ago about 50,000 PA dems changed parties to vote for Trump, blue collar former "Reagan Democrats". If he's screwed by the Globalsits controlling the RNC then they vote Dem, not to mention the millions of Trump voters who stay home after they are told their vote doesn't count. The RNC has already stated they will not allow Cruz to take the nomination unless he too passes the 1237 mark. Those thinking the RNC is going to install Cruz are delusional, he's only being used to deny Trump delegates like Kasich. So those voting for Cruz at this point to deny Trump delegates are in all reality supporting Romney or Ryan as it will be some Globalist shit stain like that will be who the RNC installs if Trump falls short of 1237. Trump or a Romney/Clinton clone? Thats what you are choosing right now. Cruz is being used as tool to keep the Globalist pig trough open along with the borders. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think he would have to have someone like Kasich as VP to help pick up swing states. OH, PA, FL, VA will be the real test in the election. As of a few weeks ago about 50,000 PA dems changed parties to vote for Trump, blue collar former "Reagan Democrats". If he's screwed by the Globalsits controlling the RNC then they vote Dem, not to mention the millions of Trump voters who stay home after they are told their vote doesn't count. The RNC has already stated they will not allow Cruz to take the nomination unless he too passes the 1237 mark. Those thinking the RNC is going to install Cruz are delusional, he's only being used to deny Trump delegates like Kasich. So those voting for Cruz at this point to deny Trump delegates are in all reality supporting Romney or Ryan as it will be some Globalist shit stain like that will be who the RNC installs if Trump falls short of 1237. Trump or a Romney/Clinton clone? Thats what you are choosing right now. Cruz is being used as tool to keep the Globalist pig trough open along with the borders. Trumps message plays well in the rust belt. |
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Posted: 4/3/2016 6:09:40 PM EDT
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Why do a lot of folks automatically assume a huge Democrat turnout this November? Do you think Blacks are going to turn out for this election like they did for the last two? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For the most part you are correct, but there is a few states that are purple states and could possibly swing one way or the another. That is how the election is decided. If you aren't in Ohio, Florida, Virginia, and a few others your vote really doesn't matter. Sadly the democrats start with about 250 electoral votes, and IIRC the GOP is about 190. The GOP absolutely to win the three swing states I listed above and also has to pick off a smaller value state like Nevada or Iowa. It is going to be very hard, and why I think a democrat victory is likely. However it is possible that the right guy, Cruz or Trump could win. We haven't tried a real conservative like Cruz for a very long time, nor someone like Trump. I guarantee we would lose with another limp RINO like Bush or Romney. No chance. Why do a lot of folks automatically assume a huge Democrat turnout this November? Do you think Blacks are going to turn out for this election like they did for the last two? Because assuming the other team won't show up is bad strategy. You find a way to win assuming the other team brings its A game. |
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Posted: 4/3/2016 6:11:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FIFY.. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: By bringing out the base. Howver when Trump doesn't get the nomination I am sure many Trump tards just won't vote, negating the base effect. We really are fucked, and it's by our own doingTrump supporters doing. FIFY.. So when they anoint Paul Ryan as the nominee and no one votes, it is the Cruz Retards who are to blame. |
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Posted: 4/3/2016 6:13:03 PM EDT
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Cruz would get slaughtered. And the Cruzbots are already blaming it on Trump supporters You don't know that. Which blue states will he pick up? How will he pick them up? Maybe he picks Rubio as his running mate. The puts Florida in play and costs the Dems some Latino voters? |
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Posted: 4/3/2016 6:17:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He doesn't (and neither does Trump). Next thread.  Lol... That is rich coming from you and your predictions that Trump would not win any delegates... |
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Posted: 4/3/2016 6:19:07 PM EDT
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This. Cruz doing his goofy ass preacher on a pulpit campaign complete with accented growly emphasis on key words wins no one over. I will vote for him if he makes it but certainly he will not have much or any crossover/new/first time voters like trump does Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cruz is not winning shit Seriously......wake up and smell the coffee. How do you guys convince yourself with this shit?!! This. Cruz doing his goofy ass preacher on a pulpit campaign complete with accented growly emphasis on key words wins no one over. I will vote for him if he makes it but certainly he will not have much or any crossover/new/first time voters like trump does Cruz is doing a lot better on this website where some have whipped themselves into a frenzy, than he's doing in the real world where he excites no one but the bible thumpers. If his sex scandal has legs, and it just might, even the thumpers will drop him like yesterday's lunch. |
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Posted: 4/3/2016 6:20:55 PM EDT
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Because his opponent won't be BHO.
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Posted: 4/3/2016 6:23:15 PM EDT
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Which blue states will he pick up? How will he pick them up? Maybe he picks Rubio as his running mate. The puts Florida in play and costs the Dems some Latino voters? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cruz would get slaughtered. And the Cruzbots are already blaming it on Trump supporters You don't know that. Which blue states will he pick up? How will he pick them up? Maybe he picks Rubio as his running mate. The puts Florida in play and costs the Dems some Latino voters? In truth, Rubio isn't going to swing Florida for anyone; he's not popular here anymore as evidenced by the death blow our state gave his campaign. |
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Posted: 4/3/2016 6:33:24 PM EDT
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By bringing out the base. Howver when Trump doesn't get the nomination I am sure many Trump tards just won't vote, negating the base effect. We really are fucked, and it's by our own doing. First post is dead wrong. Republicans will lose because every fucking candidate is a total loser, and retarded D voters will show up in hordes to make sure they don't lose their free shit. I voted for Trump, but figured I'd be voting for Cruz in the general...but this whole thing has gotten more fucked up than a goat rodeo and we will likely get another RNC shill worse than McCain or Romney and this will be an epic beatdown for the GOPe. |
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Posted: 4/3/2016 6:45:16 PM EDT
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Which blue states will he pick up? How will he pick them up? Maybe he picks Rubio as his running mate. The puts Florida in play and costs the Dems some Latino voters? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cruz would get slaughtered. And the Cruzbots are already blaming it on Trump supporters You don't know that. Which blue states will he pick up? How will he pick them up? Maybe he picks Rubio as his running mate. The puts Florida in play and costs the Dems some Latino voters? He doesn't have to pick up blue states to get to 270 electoral votes. He can target swing states, just like a hypothetical Trump campaign would have to. His easiest path is Florida, Ohio, Colorado, Iowa, North Carolina, and either Wisconsin or Nevada. |
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Posted: 4/3/2016 6:49:16 PM EDT
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He doesn't have to pick up blue states to get to 270 electoral votes. He can target swing states, just like a hypothetical Trump campaign would have to. His easiest path is Florida, Ohio, Colorado, Iowa, North Carolina, and either Wisconsin or Nevada. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cruz would get slaughtered. And the Cruzbots are already blaming it on Trump supporters You don't know that. Which blue states will he pick up? How will he pick them up? Maybe he picks Rubio as his running mate. The puts Florida in play and costs the Dems some Latino voters? He doesn't have to pick up blue states to get to 270 electoral votes. He can target swing states, just like a hypothetical Trump campaign would have to. His easiest path is Florida, Ohio, Colorado, Iowa, North Carolina, and either Wisconsin or Nevada. You are considering some strongly left leaning states to be "swing" states. |
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Posted: 4/3/2016 6:56:26 PM EDT
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You are considering some strongly left leaning states to be "swing" states. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cruz would get slaughtered. And the Cruzbots are already blaming it on Trump supporters You don't know that. Which blue states will he pick up? How will he pick them up? Maybe he picks Rubio as his running mate. The puts Florida in play and costs the Dems some Latino voters? He doesn't have to pick up blue states to get to 270 electoral votes. He can target swing states, just like a hypothetical Trump campaign would have to. His easiest path is Florida, Ohio, Colorado, Iowa, North Carolina, and either Wisconsin or Nevada. You are considering some strongly left leaning states to be "swing" states. http://www.270towin.com/states/Florida http://www.270towin.com/states/Ohio http://www.270towin.com/states/Colorado http://www.270towin.com/states/North_Carolina http://www.270towin.com/states/Iowa http://www.270towin.com/states/Wisconsin http://www.270towin.com/states/Nevada Which of those are strongly left leaning? Previous election data and current polls have them all as battlegrounds with no obvious winner. |
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Posted: 4/3/2016 6:56:51 PM EDT
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Hitlery is a very weak candidate and the only way we lose this election is if butthurt ensues. At this point I dont care who the nominee is or how that person got there. Im voting for the candidate with the R next to their name. And yes that means even if the GOPe pulls a fast one on Trump or Cruz. If we refuse to vote for the republican nominee for whatever reason we are handing the election to Hillary. Period. Say what you want but even Lindsey Graham would be better than her. There is so much at stake with the Supreme Court hanging in the balance. We have to win no matter what. If needed be we can always try again in 4 or 8 years with light damage. With Hillary the damage of 4 or 8 years will be too much to recover from.
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Posted: 4/3/2016 7:01:07 PM EDT
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http://www.270towin.com/states/Florida http://www.270towin.com/states/Ohio http://www.270towin.com/states/Colorado http://www.270towin.com/states/North_Carolina http://www.270towin.com/states/Iowa http://www.270towin.com/states/Wisconsin http://www.270towin.com/states/Nevada Which of those are strongly left leaning? Previous election data and current polls have them all as battlegrounds with no obvious winner. Iowa only broke red once since 1988. Wisconsin hasn't voted red since 1984. |
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Posted: 4/3/2016 7:08:31 PM EDT
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Because his opponent won't be BHO. Yep, Hillary is a horrible candidate. Turn out will be low, especially if Bernie makes it tight. The only thing that could counter act all that is to nominate someone so obnoxious, so boorish, so disgusting, that it would make Hillary look good in comparison and drive non-white turnout on the Dem side. Know anyone like that? 
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Posted: 4/3/2016 7:21:51 PM EDT
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Yep, Hillary is a horrible candidate. Turn out will be low, especially if Bernie makes it tight. The only thing that could counter act all that is to nominate someone so obnoxious, so boorish, so disgusting, that it would make Hillary look good in comparison and drive non-white turnout on the Dem side. Know anyone like that? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Because his opponent won't be BHO. Yep, Hillary is a horrible candidate. Turn out will be low, especially if Bernie makes it tight. The only thing that could counter act all that is to nominate someone so obnoxious, so boorish, so disgusting, that it would make Hillary look good in comparison and drive non-white turnout on the Dem side. Know anyone like that? So you believe that Dems stay home and that allows Cruz to win traditional blue states? |
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Posted: 4/3/2016 7:24:51 PM EDT
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Because his opponent won't be BHO. Yep, Hillary is a horrible candidate. Turn out will be low, especially if Bernie makes it tight. The only thing that could counter act all that is to nominate someone so obnoxious, so boorish, so disgusting, that it would make Hillary look good in comparison and drive non-white turnout on the Dem side. Know anyone like that? The preacher man? Nope. Guess again. 
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Posted: 4/3/2016 7:37:25 PM EDT
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How does Trumps lack of popularity help Cruz win tradition blue states?
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Posted: 4/3/2016 7:41:42 PM EDT
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How does Trumps lack of popularity help Cruz win tradition blue states?
Because Cruz isn't driving Dem turnout like the radioactive Trump: 
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Posted: 4/3/2016 7:42:36 PM EDT
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I don't know why you think people wouldn't be justifiably enraged if Trump is robbed of the nomination. I would be thrilled to vote for Trump OR Cruz, but these games are bullshit. The GOPe could have stopped McStain or Romney from getting more than 50% of the delegates with this kind of effort too. Instead, they pressured all of the other candidates to drop out, so the party could be unified. Trump has been far more dominant than either, so the party could have just rallied around him, and made their peace with the wishes of the voters. Instead they are throwing an absolute temper tantrum. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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By bringing out the base. Howver when Trump doesn't get the nomination I am sure many Trump tards just won't vote, negating the base effect. We really are fucked, and it's by our own doing. I don't know why you think people wouldn't be justifiably enraged if Trump is robbed of the nomination. I would be thrilled to vote for Trump OR Cruz, but these games are bullshit. The GOPe could have stopped McStain or Romney from getting more than 50% of the delegates with this kind of effort too. Instead, they pressured all of the other candidates to drop out, so the party could be unified. Trump has been far more dominant than either, so the party could have just rallied around him, and made their peace with the wishes of the voters. Instead they are throwing an absolute temper tantrum. Wait until they rob it from Trump & then don't give it to Cruz... http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/04/republican-elites-waiting-sidelines-push-paul-ryan-nominee-just-using-ted-cruz-thwart-donald-trump/ Party elites understand Ted Cruz will be knocked out by the end of April but are hoping he can take enough delegates from Trump to prevent him from becoming nominee. |
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Posted: 4/3/2016 7:47:11 PM EDT
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Cruz is doing a lot better on this website where some have whipped themselves into a frenzy, than he's doing in the real world where he excites no one but the bible thumpers. If his sex scandal has legs, and it just might, even the thumpers will drop him like yesterday's lunch. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cruz is not winning shit Seriously......wake up and smell the coffee. How do you guys convince yourself with this shit?!! This. Cruz doing his goofy ass preacher on a pulpit campaign complete with accented growly emphasis on key words wins no one over. I will vote for him if he makes it but certainly he will not have much or any crossover/new/first time voters like trump does Cruz is doing a lot better on this website where some have whipped themselves into a frenzy, than he's doing in the real world where he excites no one but the bible thumpers. If his sex scandal has legs, and it just might, even the thumpers will drop him like yesterday's lunch. The left (along with the media they control) is very good at digging into people & controlling the narrative - the entire election will be about Cruz' lack of trustworthiness. He will get slaughtered in every debate & the election will end up being about who is the least likable candidate instead of about the actual issues. |
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Posted: 4/3/2016 7:47:44 PM EDT
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I was a Cruz fan though I am less enamored with him than I used to be. However I'll vote for either Cruz or Trump when the time comes. But I absolutely won't vote for a third RINO if the party hijacks it from the will of the people and gives it to Ryan or Kasich. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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By bringing out the base. Howver when Trump doesn't get the nomination I am sure many Trump tards just won't vote, negating the base effect. We really are fucked, and it's by our own doing.
BTW, I'm neither a Trump nor a Cruz fan, mainly because of the attitude of both of their supporters.... I was a Cruz fan though I am less enamored with him than I used to be. However I'll vote for either Cruz or Trump when the time comes. But I absolutely won't vote for a third RINO if the party hijacks it from the will of the people and gives it to Ryan or Kasich. Same here. |
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Posted: 4/3/2016 7:50:01 PM EDT
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Hitlery is a very weak candidate and the only way we lose this election is if butthurt ensues. At this point I dont care who the nominee is or how that person got there. Im voting for the candidate with the R next to their name. And yes that means even if the GOPe pulls a fast one on Trump or Cruz. If we refuse to vote for the republican nominee for whatever reason we are handing the election to Hillary. Period. Say what you want but even Lindsey Graham would be better than her. There is so much at stake with the Supreme Court hanging in the balance. We have to win no matter what. If needed be we can always try again in 4 or 8 years with light damage. With Hillary the damage of 4 or 8 years will be too much to recover from. 0bama was a very weak candidate (twice) - the GOPe managed to fuck that up both times. When the GOPe fucks this up again we will lose again - and they're already well on their way since they encouraged this circus & did the D's work for them instead of sitting quietly in the corner while the top 2 battled it out. |
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Posted: 4/3/2016 7:52:02 PM EDT
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Cruz is not winning shit Seriously......wake up and smell the coffee. How do you guys convince yourself with this shit?!! Cruzbots are smoking the same shit that Paulbots did before. And their disappointment and conspiracy theories to explain away their clown's failure will be very similar too. |
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Posted: 4/3/2016 7:54:47 PM EDT
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Both times he had the African American vote. No matter how bad he screwed up they were going to vote for him and defend him. The dems have no special circumstance or reason to be loyal this time. All they have is a fat white woman who they know is a liar. The voting numbers will not be anywhere near recent elections.
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Posted: 4/3/2016 8:00:34 PM EDT
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Cruz won't be the nominee. The choice is Trump versus whomever the convention picks, which won't be Cruz because he's the second most-hated man in the Republican Party.
Cruz only polls well against Clinton now because he's not very well known. He's popular with strongly ideological Republicans and a segment of conservative Christians because he recites the Reaganite creed, but Reagan didn't win two elections because of his ideology, but because he was personally charismatic, and because he didn't have to run in the aftermath of his own immigration policies. That's what ideologues don't get. |
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Posted: 4/3/2016 8:37:35 PM EDT
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McCain was old, tired, poorly advised, a RINO and broke, If you voted for him you were a racist. Romney was running against a siting US president. Cruz can neutralize the Hispanic vote for the dems, and unless the blacks (African Americans?) come out the way they did for Obama Hillary will probably lose. She is a weak candidate. If Cruz picks Kasich as a VP they can probably swing Ohio If Cruz picks Kasich he'll mysteriously commit suicide in a park in DC with 5 shots to the back of the head, if he's not outright publicly assassinated. ETA Assuming Cruz gets elected with Kasich as his VP. |
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Posted: 4/3/2016 9:00:56 PM EDT
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I think he would have to have someone like Kasich as VP to help pick up swing states. OH, PA, FL, VA will be the real test in the election. That was my first thought,too. |
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Posted: 4/3/2016 9:22:37 PM EDT
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You may be right. I enjoy him upsetting the cart and beating the system at its own game watching the TV pundits looks of concern, crowing about apparent missteps and generally doing anything they can to bring trump down. I hope he gets enough delegates outright and shoves it right down the establishments throat He making his business to take their business and they can do very little about it Maybe he loses in the end but considering what's been going down since the whole thing started I have a hard time seeing him fail. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cruz is not winning shit Seriously......wake up and smell the coffee. How do you guys convince yourself with this shit?!! This. Cruz doing his goofy ass preacher on a pulpit campaign complete with accented growly emphasis on key words wins no one over. I will vote for him if he makes it but certainly he will not have much or any crossover/new/first time voters like trump does I don't think you understand just how many people loathe Trump. You may be right. I enjoy him upsetting the cart and beating the system at its own game watching the TV pundits looks of concern, crowing about apparent missteps and generally doing anything they can to bring trump down. I hope he gets enough delegates outright and shoves it right down the establishments throat He making his business to take their business and they can do very little about it Maybe he loses in the end but considering what's been going down since the whole thing started I have a hard time seeing him fail. Upset the apple cart? lol Trump is a Liberal from NYC who decided to run for President. He has the lowest Republican support of any candidate in the past 50 years, with the worst negatives EVER. The liberal media has pushed him forward from the very beginning, As expected, he has been destructive and divisive within a strong Republican field, when the Democrats are their weakest. Now it looks like Hillary will mop the floor with him. Upset the apple cart? 
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Posted: 4/3/2016 10:31:02 PM EDT
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Upset the apple cart? lol Trump is a Liberal from NYC who decided to run for President. He has the lowest Republican support of any candidate in the past 50 years, with the worst negatives EVER. The liberal media has pushed him forward from the very beginning, As expected, he has been destructive and divisive within a strong Republican field, when the Democrats are their weakest. Now it looks like Hillary will mop the floor with him. Upset the apple cart?
I can only laugh in order to avoid crying. To think that some people actually believe THIS is a "strong Republican field." Our standards have been lowered to the point of convincing ourselves that THIS is strong is a sad tale of who we have become. |
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Posted: 4/3/2016 11:38:23 PM EDT
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I can only laugh in order to avoid crying. To think that some people actually believe THIS is a "strong Republican field." Our standards have been lowered to the point of convincing ourselves that THIS is strong is a sad tale of who we have become. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Upset the apple cart? lol Trump is a Liberal from NYC who decided to run for President. He has the lowest Republican support of any candidate in the past 50 years, with the worst negatives EVER. The liberal media has pushed him forward from the very beginning, As expected, he has been destructive and divisive within a strong Republican field, when the Democrats are their weakest. Now it looks like Hillary will mop the floor with him. Upset the apple cart?
I can only laugh in order to avoid crying. To think that some people actually believe THIS is a "strong Republican field." Our standards have been lowered to the point of convincing ourselves that THIS is strong is a sad tale of who we have become. |
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Posted: 4/4/2016 5:35:23 PM EDT
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Walker and Cruz and Jindal were GTG. Trump is an orange clown. Simply being right on the issues is not enough to win a presidential election. You also need charisma, confidence, a willingness to go on the attack and money. Cruz' brains, Trumps money and balls, Ryans body. Thats who the GOP needs to find for 2020. |
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Posted: 4/4/2016 5:49:37 PM EDT
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Simply being right on the issues is not enough to win a presidential election. You also need charisma, confidence, a willingness to go on the attack and money. Cruz' brains, Trumps money and balls, Ryans body. Thats who the GOP needs to find for 2020. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Walker and Cruz and Jindal were GTG. Trump is an orange clown. Simply being right on the issues is not enough to win a presidential election. You also need charisma, confidence, a willingness to go on the attack and money. Cruz' brains, Trumps money and balls, Ryans body. Thats who the GOP needs to find for 2020. Trump's "charisma" is actually what makes him a loathsome blowhard. His money is meaningless. When it's time for the General Election, Trump is not going to liquidate a billion dollars that isn't there. |
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Posted: 4/4/2016 5:53:41 PM EDT
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Walker and Cruz and Jindal were GTG. Trump is an orange clown. Simply being right on the issues is not enough to win a presidential election. You also need charisma, confidence, a willingness to go on the attack and money. Cruz' brains, Trumps money and balls, Ryans body. Thats who the GOP needs to find for 2020. Trump's "charisma" is actually what makes him a loathsome blowhard. His money is meaningless. When it's time for the General Election, Trump is not going to liquidate a billion dollars that isn't there. Point completely missed. Thats why the GOP keeps losing. I guess it will be another boring old fat wimpy white guy in 2020 and 2024 |
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Posted: 4/4/2016 5:58:58 PM EDT
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Moot point....If Trump does not make 1237 I suspect come the beginning of July the Cruzbots that are left after "The Great Butt-Hurt" (when he's cast aside by the GOPe) will be polishing Ryan's knob here full time.
I may be a dullard but I'm not delusional. If Trump does not make 1237 I fully expect it to be over for him. The really funny thing is that Cruz thinks he will take Trump's place.....What a rube. 
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Posted: 4/4/2016 6:04:12 PM EDT
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He won't....I can see they already trying to blame Trump supporters lol. I hope Cruz gets it just so I can laugh at all those general election polls they love to pimp in every thread. The Dukakis team was a big fan of those polls too.
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Posted: 4/4/2016 6:05:30 PM EDT
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Religious magic.
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Posted: 4/4/2016 6:07:50 PM EDT
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Moot point....If Trump does not make 1237 I suspect come the beginning of July the Cruzbots that are left after "The Great Butt-Hurt" (when he's cast aside by the GOPe) will be polishing Ryan's knob here full time. I may be a dullard but I'm not delusional. If Trump does not make 1237 I fully expect it to be over for him. The really funny thing is that Cruz thinks he will take Trump's place.....What a rube. |
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Posted: 4/4/2016 6:12:57 PM EDT
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Moot point....If Trump does not make 1237 I suspect come the beginning of July the Cruzbots that are left after "The Great Butt-Hurt" (when he's cast aside by the GOPe) will be polishing Ryan's knob here full time. I may be a dullard but I'm not delusional. If Trump does not make 1237 I fully expect it to be over for him. The really funny thing is that Cruz thinks he will take Trump's place.....What a rube. They already are. Check any of the Paul Ryan threads and they are shilling hardcore for the guy 
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Posted: 4/6/2016 12:10:30 AM EDT
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Anyone that thinks Cruz can win. Please show me a map of how. Lets assume he gets every state that went Red in 2008 and 2012, plus his home state and the home state of his running mate (any running mate you want). Lets see the map.
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Posted: 4/6/2016 12:15:31 AM EDT
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Anyone that thinks Cruz can win. Please show me a map of how. Lets assume he gets every state that went Red in 2008 and 2012, plus his home state and the home state of his running mate (any running mate you want). Lets see the map. You think the way I do. The map shows it is to be very unlikely. But the same is true for any republican, it isn't Cruz. |
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Posted: 4/6/2016 12:15:35 AM EDT
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By bringing out the base. This. RINOs always lose. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 4/6/2016 12:18:07 AM EDT
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Quote Historyhttp://www.270towin.com/states/Florida http://www.270towin.com/states/Ohio http://www.270towin.com/states/Colorado http://www.270towin.com/states/North_Carolina http://www.270towin.com/states/Iowa http://www.270towin.com/states/Wisconsin http://www.270towin.com/states/Nevada Which of those are strongly left leaning? Previous election data and current polls have them all as battlegrounds with no obvious winner. When a state hasn't been red since 1984 I'd say its pretty safe to say its left leaning. To be realistically considered a swing state, I think it should have a history of going either way once in awhile like Ohio has. Wisconsin isn't going to be going red, and I doubt Nevada, Iowa, or Colorado will be either I also consider NC to still be a red state. That is only state above that I would think a GOP victory is likely. |
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Posted: 4/6/2016 12:20:02 AM EDT
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You think the way I do. The map shows it is to be very unlikely. But the same is true for any republican, it isn't Cruz. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anyone that thinks Cruz can win. Please show me a map of how. Lets assume he gets every state that went Red in 2008 and 2012, plus his home state and the home state of his running mate (any running mate you want). Lets see the map. You think the way I do. The map shows it is to be very unlikely. But the same is true for any republican, it isn't Cruz. Yep. But theres a chance someone other than a Republican will be a a major party ticket. Someone with a home court advantage in New York. Who could pick a running mate with a home court advantage in Ohio, Florida or New Jersey. in a race with no Republican how does a moderate do? |
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Posted: 4/6/2016 1:17:41 AM EDT
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Moot point....If Trump does not make 1237 I suspect come the beginning of July the Cruzbots that are left after "The Great Butt-Hurt" (when he's cast aside by the GOPe) will be polishing Ryan's knob here full time. I may be a dullard but I'm not delusional. If Trump does not make 1237 I fully expect it to be over for him. The really funny thing is that Cruz thinks he will take Trump's place.....What a rube. The GOP has no shortage of devotees with battered wife syndrome. They just keep coming back no matter how bad they get fucked over. lol |
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Posted: 4/6/2016 1:30:34 AM EDT
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Lulz.
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Posted: 4/6/2016 3:26:00 AM EDT
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Which blue states will he pick up? How will he pick them up? Maybe he picks Rubio as his running mate. The puts Florida in play and costs the Dems some Latino voters? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cruz would get slaughtered. And the Cruzbots are already blaming it on Trump supporters You don't know that. Which blue states will he pick up? How will he pick them up? Maybe he picks Rubio as his running mate. The puts Florida in play and costs the Dems some Latino voters? Rubio lost Florida. Badly. Since Cruz is also hispanic, what exactly would Rubio bring? Unless it was a trade for his convention delegates I don't see a compelling reason to pick him. That also presumes (wrongly) that "hispanics" are a monolithic voting block. The Cuban Americans and Mexican Americans and Puerto Rican Americans really have little in common except language. Two Senators of Cuban descent are not going to really blow the skirts up on those of Mexican or Puerto Rican descent. |
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Posted: 4/6/2016 3:31:27 AM EDT
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Simply being right on the issues is not enough to win a presidential election. You also need charisma, confidence, a willingness to go on the attack and money. Cruz' brains, Trumps money and balls, Ryans body. Thats who the GOP needs to find for 2020. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Walker and Cruz and Jindal were GTG. Trump is an orange clown. Simply being right on the issues is not enough to win a presidential election. You also need charisma, confidence, a willingness to go on the attack and money. Cruz' brains, Trumps money and balls, Ryans body. Thats who the GOP needs to find for 2020. Ain't no such animal. |
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