When I left a small community bank for a larger national bank I got a high-five from my manager.

When I left that bank for a job in an unrelated field I got the flipped bird.

I had been a key manager at my previous place of employment. I was responsible for a large increase in market share and revenue.

One day the owner comes in and tells all the managers we are worthless and don't know what we're doing.  HE"S going to fix everything.

We proceed to scrap the business model that has increased the revenue of the company 4x in 6 years.

I seel the writng on the wall, and start interviewing.  Have 7-8 interviews, narrow the field down to 2, then worked out a deal with the best future.

Gave my two weeks notice. Offered to spend the next two weeks training and tieing up loose ends. Everything was squared away before I had the meeting.

They were shocked that a manager would actual leave, and said I was making a mistake. I really thought I would be shown the door, but to my surpise, they accepted the two weeks, and I was stuck to work it out. The asked where I was going, but I just said I was going to take a month off, and start a new parth.

A week later, I had really finished everything I needed to do to hand off my stuff. There wasn't a chance in hell they could handle it.


I announnce my leaving on Friday, my #2 announced his resignation on Monday and left immediately. I left after the first week.

Then things get interesting. Send my computer off to a forensic computer specialist to see if took company info or recruited.
The non-compete was horribly written, and had huge holes. It was worthless, and had an attorney review before I left.

#2 joins the same firm. Two months later, another key member of my dept. joins us.

Old dept. self-destructs. Then the rest of the company. CEO hires a distaster in the making and took the company for a very expensive ride.

Lost 30% in the first year.  

Then the CEO hires private investigators to follow me to find out where I went, get lawyers involved, and goes off the deep end.

I am their competitor now.

My ace in the hole is I know where the "bodies are buried"  

Nothing happens.  Year later the CEO states the he made a huge mistake and starts rebuilding my business plan .


The CEO and I were fairly close and took my leaving personally. It wasn't on myt part, but I did not want to be part of the destruction of my work.

They matched the competitors offer.

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Well good for you, a paid vacation time to decompress before the new gig. Take your vacation for the year then....

Copy all your emails and contacts onto an external hard drive.  Make sure you submit all our outstanding expense reimbursements. Have all the stuff you want to take with you out of your office.  My company would walk you out the door immediately

I've seen counter offers of $10K a year to stay.
I've seen a lot of walk offs. Literally escorted out of the building, the manager or whatever then stands and watches them leave the property.

Personal items gathered and mailed to you.
The walk offs had a negative impact on the workers that saw it. They all made the decision to call in with a family emergency and use that to burn up their remaining vacation time. Whoever or whatever reason to come up with walking people out has basically screwed any chance of a notice and hiring or training someone to fill the position. So the other workers are stuck filling the gap for months while thinking the guy will be back.

I told him I was looking for something more stable...I was actually going to work with two guys that had worked for him that were off starting their own company.  He found out later and withheld commission from a job I was owed.  In the long run, we've made amends.  He even cut me a check for that job two years later saying he had felt bad about how it all went down.  Due to my unhappiness with the "sinking ship", he's also expressed he'd accept me back with open arms and throw a party.  I'm wanting to get into a different industry personally, but it's nice to know the option is there if I decide to stay in this business...because, well, I'm not working for the other two clowns for a third year.  Hell, the one owner told me the other day they almost were hit with finance charges and he would have spread them to my job's total costs (I am an independent and am cut a check based on job total profitability, I collect a first payment that pays for all materials and labor typically and am paid on the final check...so...finance charges applied to my jobs would be a direct result of his incompetence to pay his own bills while he goes on another vacation)...Fuck him.  Closing out the 5 or so jobs I have left under them and moving on to a different outfit.  Even if it means starting from scratch again.

In my industry, if you don't tell them you are going to a competitor, and they let you serve your two weeks, only to find out that you were going to a competitor, you will end up getting sued for shits and grins for misappropriating trade secrets.  Nothing ever comes of the suits, but you make damn sure you are telling them what industry you are going to and let them make the decision.

The net result is if you are going into an unrelated field, you'll serve your 2 weeks and go on your merry way.  If you are going to a competitor, you'll be escorted to your desk to pack under HR's watchful eye and out of the building.

I'm resigning tomorrow to go to a startup in a similar field, with a non competing product.  I could get walked, but might serve the 2 weeks, hard to say.

Non "non-comp clause" in my contract. My attorney was prepared to address this matter but apparently non-comp's are practically unenforceable in this state.

Depends on your state.  Here in CO, it's at will.  They don't have to pay you for those two weeks.  My employer, in fact, will not pay out accrued vacation if you leave on your terms.  Their HR is scummy.

I've been self employed for 19 years.

Last week I told my boss he was a huge prick and that I need more money and less work.
He laughed and said 'me, too'. I feel like we have this conversation all too often, rarely with any good results.

I rarely tell my soon to be former employers where I am going.  Sometimes I jump ship for more money whereas other times I jump just to do something different, which can be for less money.  

In the last 2.5 years, my former employer lost 11 people to the company we ( all ) work for today. Our old boss was livid because
he had no resources to retain us ( plus he was an ass ), he even tried to join us, but our corporate bigwigs knew what he was,
so no, get lost.

The Old : Company with offices the world over and huge, corporate HQ in Geneva. ( Cheap Bastards )
The New : Company taking all the work from the others, not as global, but working on it. Corporate HQ in NJ. ( They have the money )

Me:  "I'm leaving to take a job with the company's main competition".

Nice

 Sounds like, if your Boss is THAT Much of a Narcissistic Dick, That Bridge is going to be blown no matter WHAT you Do.

Then just quit now....dont be a douche.

This is the part I don't get.

 


Half the time, if someone leaves it's over money.  The counter offer is "well, we thought you were a wimp and assumed we could underpay you forever."  


Also, if they could afford that pay increase, and didn't have a process to get to it (performance reviews, meeting set goals, etc.) and didn't... how the hell do they think someone that has gone through the work to look for and get a different job would take the offer.  By that time, there wouldn't be ANY level of pay that would stop the move, especially if the person is an ethical one that doesn't want to toy with the potential new employer.




Counter offers are a sign the company making it is dumb.