busy getting ready to felony stop you for looking scary.

No!  Not broad daylight!!  

Could go either way, but

1.)That area is full of filthy liberal hippies, who are going to be sympathetic to the deaded homeless guy
2.)This comes at a time when tensions are high about use of excessive force
3.) If there is audio of the officer joking about shooting the guy in the penis, that does not look good

Yeah....ok Waingro.....

"If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail".

I don't think I've ever seen a more perfect demonstration of that axiom.  

I'm inclined to say "bad shoot," mostly because of the way the situation was handled. Perez's only hope of defense is to say he was protecting the K9 handler, which he arguably was. If the "I'm gonna shoot him in the penis" video makes it to trial, though, Sandy is done.

I'm not gonna say "guilty," since the K9 handler may have been in danger. Either way, Sandy is a douche.

I'll leave the verdict for the jury to determine.

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Perhaps. In the original thread, I stated it looked like they created their own exigency, and forced the issue. There is case law in that regard. Will be interesting to see how this ends up.

Both shot.  

Not that it helps or hurts but the Officer with the rifle was using his personal rifle with his personal suppressor.

I remember that incident.  I would not have shot.

It was murder.

Especially when they skipped the Grand Jury and Info charged the guy.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/lawyers-albuquerque-officers-face-charges-killing-28168619

I've always wondered what goes through apologists' minds before they admit that they were wrong as usual....

 I have to admit that seems shady.

It's a political move so that they can say "look...we charged somebody".  

From KRQE (Albuquerque):





ALBUQUERQUE (KRQE) – The District Attorney’s Office has charged the Albuquerque officers who shot and killed homeless camper James Boyd with murder. This is the first time APD officers have ever faced charges for shooting someone.

Helmet-cam video captured Keith Sandy and Dominique Perez firing three shots each which killed Boyd in March 2014. The shooting has sparked protests throughout the city several times since last summer, and while many of them were peaceful, some protesters did threaten police and vandalized property. At the end of one protest, police in riot gear used tear gas to break up crowds.

Last month, KRQE News 13 reported the district attorney was looking to pursue murder charges and on Monday, she filed them against Sandy and Perez.




Preliminary Hearing Process

At a preliminary hearing for Keith Sandy and Dominique Perez, the officers would be able to contest the charges. Prosecutors also would present evidence at the hearing, which would be open to the public. At its conclusion, a District Court judge would decide whether there is probable cause to bind one or both of the officers over for trial.


In a statement sent Monday morning, Sandy’s attorney Sam Bregman claimed the charges are unjustified and that Sandy, “had not only the right, but the duty to defend a fellow officer from a mentally unstable, violent man wielding two knives. Keith did nothing wrong. To the contrary, he followed his training and probably saved his fellow officer’s life.” Bregman did not specify which of the four other officers who were confronting Boyd at the end of a four-hour standoff was saved.

The attorney for Perez, Luis Robles, also pointed to the judgement calls police officers make during critical moments. He told News 13 in a statement, “This is truly a shame. Throughout his career, Officer Perez has been called upon to make life-altering decisions while protecting Albuquerque citizens and his fellow officers. And having made one of those decisions, Officer Perez now faces an open count of murder. Regardless, I am confident that the facts will vindicate Officer Perez’s actions in this case.”

A preliminary hearing will take place for both officers, although the date of that hearing has not been set.

District Attorney Kari Brandenburg will hold a news conference at 2 p.m. Monday to discuss the charges. Bregman has also scheduled a news conference Monday at 1:30 p.m.

KRQE News 13 will have crews at both news conferences and will provide updates to this story as they become available.

Good

c'mon man. Who you gonna believe, Ar15.com's very own "motown_steve", or your lyin' eyes...?

That right there is part of yer problem.

I don't see how that can help the officer. If I was prosecutor I'd use that to paint the officer as a gung ho type gun guy.

NOT a good shoot, but I don't think it's murder either.

 

I'm still here.  The DA is pandering to the community.  I predict not guilty after trial.  Just like Kelly Thomas.  I also predict that Albuquerque PD will stop arresting and citing people unless absolutely necessary.  I hope the DA has to lay off a few employees and defense attorneys starve.

You don't really understand reasonable doubt, do you?  "Because of the way the situation was handled," is a matter for civil Federal court, not local criminal court.

Oh, isn't this DA the one who gave someone $25k not to report a burglary by her drug-addict son and APD sent the case to the state AG?  She's going to be completely un-biased....

Many, if not most, agencies allow personally owned firearms, or even mandate it. Both my sidearm and patrol rifle are PO. We just have to get a letter from our Sheriff, and the firearm must be from a reputable manufacturer and allowable caliber.

DOJ is all up in their shit lately, and the cop is white, of course he's being charged.

They'll  be all solemn and tearful in court though and the judge will pat them on the head and assure them that they really did have to flashbang the bad man and then run up besides him

 

 

Should have ran it through a Grand Jury imo.

I doubt it will matter to a jury any more than it mattered to the bullets. He pulled the trigger 3 times and that's the salient point.

Good, then this should be a quick trial with a not guilty verdict...

Cute theory.

Bad shoot!!  Was then, and is now.  As much as I hate to say it, there is going to need to be an example made sooner or later.  This looks like a pretty good case for that.  If there's a canine present, you let the fucking dog loose before killing somebody!!!

It'll be interesting to see how this pans out. IIRC, he'd had around 200 previous contacts with LE, many violent calls/contacts, and had been called in by homeowners in the area on this event. It wasn't out in the boonies, but on a small ridge behind a housing development.

In a generic sense, arresting only when necessary sounds like a good idea.

On a phone so couldn't read. Mobile version unavailable. Thanks.

I heard on the radio in my truck, that one of the officers had a camera going.
The footage from the camera didn't match what the officers said happened.
That's why they were just charged with Murder..
This was about an hour ago, coming back from town.

Don't know what happened. That was quite a while ago.But I do remember the thread.
I also don't know how accurate the report on the radio was either!

The cops basically executed the guy, but I don't see how they can be convicted of anything.   The guy is on video pulling a knife(s), and he is within the commonly accepted lethal range.      

There is a lot of case law saying this is a good shoot.       Should be interesting.

Political posturing. Murder won't stick.

I don't see a conviction coming from this.

I've been wrong before.

This here. Also it wasn't like they walked up and shot him in 5 min. If I recall it was a couple of hr stand off. Light was low the terrain was bad and the guy was still armed with knives.

bad shot . hope they throw away the key on both of the two tactical i got a kill guys

Yeah but I bet having a felony/murder arrest on your record is tough.

Will he be put on unpaid leave until the charges are cleared up?

Will he get shit from other cops if he's pulled over and they run his license?

Will he have to get his record expunged after he's found not guilty?

Seems like a bad deal anyway.

I concur with this assessment. It's been a while since I saw th video, but I remember my immediate reaction being: "holy shit, I just watched a man get murdered by policemen"...

I generally grant LEOs a wide degree of latitude in how they prosecute their job responsibilities, but that was a bad, bad shoot IMO.

Because the Justice Department is such a bastion of integrity and expert policing experience.

I don't see a conviction coming out of this one.

Neither do I, also the way the DA is handling this is BS.