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Posted: 2/25/2007 9:01:29 AM EDT
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Truth is impervious to change. 
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Posted: 2/25/2007 9:03:58 AM EDT
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I want 5 wives !!!! Is that ok too?????????? durn....
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Posted: 2/25/2007 9:05:12 AM EDT
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I personally wouldn't have a problem with it, but I would conclude that you were batshit crazy. |
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Posted: 2/25/2007 9:07:06 AM EDT
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Though one could argue that our laws are based on the Roman laws. Roman Law > adapted by Germanic Kingdoms (including Gaul) > adapted by england into English Common law> adapted by US to our current laws. Also, gays were sent to the camps in Nazi Germany... |
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Posted: 2/25/2007 9:55:43 AM EDT
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This is so true! You would not believe how many of my close friends marriges have ended in divorce, usually the kids are the ones that suffer. Couples get married but act selfishly like everything revolves around them and there happiness and there are no consequenses to their actions. They don't seem to care who or what they hurt or what the impact in the future is. It's really sad, even my close friends that I thought were the perfect couple have split up. There is no age or gender exempt from fault here. I had nothing to do with any of it except to sometimes point out what they are throwing away. |
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Posted: 2/25/2007 9:57:12 AM EDT
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You really want 5 mother-in-laws? 
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Posted: 2/25/2007 10:06:07 AM EDT
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uhhh..on second thought.... fred just making a point..... BTW pay attention to the poll |
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Posted: 2/25/2007 10:10:29 AM EDT
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Actually they are way over represented in all kinds of health problems not just HIV but also syphilis and health effects of being "Jammed in Exit!" Lets face it that particualr piece of human anatomy was not made to be force fed things!!n And yes they use more than just Phalisses.
Why do you think they want "domestic benefits" such as Health insurance for partners etc. They go to the doctor more!! |
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Posted: 2/25/2007 10:13:15 AM EDT
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Your post ignores the reality that views of what is "right" and "wrong" are constantly changing. |
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Posted: 2/25/2007 10:13:18 AM EDT
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Actually they are way over represented in all kinds of health problems not just HIV but also syphilis and health effects of being "Jammed in Exit!" Lets face it that particualr piece of human anatomy was not made to be force fed things!!n And yes they use more than just Phalisses.
Why do you think they want "domestic benefits" such as Health insurance for partners etc. They go to the doctor more!! |
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Posted: 2/25/2007 10:13:48 AM EDT
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Who the fuck voted Positive?
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Posted: 2/25/2007 10:14:57 AM EDT
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People who believe thats the case. |
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Posted: 2/25/2007 10:15:33 AM EDT
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Amazing isn't it? 
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Posted: 2/25/2007 10:16:05 AM EDT
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Oh... so other queers then? Thats cool. 
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Posted: 2/25/2007 10:19:13 AM EDT
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Yeah. I'm very disappointed by the level of intolerance shown by members here. It is a *personal* choice. If you don't want to allow *personal* choice I'd recommend moving to a different country, where the government is expected to regulate your choices. |
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Posted: 2/25/2007 10:20:12 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/25/2007 10:22:06 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/25/2007 10:22:33 AM EDT
[#18]
It is a personal choice. I choose no perversion. You choose what you want, but don't expect me to condone it. |
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Posted: 2/25/2007 10:22:54 AM EDT
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Article New cases of HIV, which causes AIDS, jumped sharply among homosexual men in the United States from 1999 to 2002, the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported yesterday. The number of new infections climbed 17 percent for homosexual men in this period, compared with 7.3 percent for all men, the study revealed. It was published in the CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report. "Reports of syphilis outbreaks and increased unprotected sex raise concerns regarding increases in HIV transmission among men who have sex with men," the authors of the report said. HIV is the acronym for human immunodeficiency virus. fred |
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Posted: 2/25/2007 10:28:09 AM EDT
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I'm sick and tired of this "I'm okay if your Okay" BULLSHIT. Our forefathers are probably rolling in their graves. I'm waiting for a news report telling us that George Washington & Ben Franklin were really gay. |
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Posted: 2/25/2007 10:31:04 AM EDT
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  but...they were just rich white guys.... fred |
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Posted: 2/25/2007 10:31:09 AM EDT
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In general? No "impact" different than that of other humans, in general. Many specific people who are or were homosexuals have contributed greatly to society, however: Tennessee Williams, playwright. Pyotr Il'ich Tchaikovsky, composer. Lord Byron, poet (though he was bisexual). Most believe that Leonardo da Vinci was primarily homosexual, and some think that William Shakespeare was bisexual, based on the majority of his sonnets. That's just a few.
To those who say homosexuality is a choice, I'd like you to do me a favor and participate in a little exercise. Choose, for just a few moments, to be homosexual. If it's a choice, you should have no problem, yes? Choose, for just a couple minutes, to be sexually attracted to those of your own gender. You can't, can you? I know I can't. Doesn't that suggest that homosexuality is not, in fact, a choice? |
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Posted: 2/25/2007 10:32:32 AM EDT
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Fixed it for ya (I'm sure there's plenty more you could add to it). |
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Posted: 2/25/2007 10:35:04 AM EDT
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Interestingly this seems to be a uniquely US phenomenon. In the Caribbean, Europe, Africa, India and China HIV / AIDS is more prevalent in heterosexual populations. In the US the patient zero was a gay, French-Canadian flight attendant. In these other countries HIV / AIDS is primarily spread through heterosexual prostitution and intravenous drug use. It is these countries where HIV becomes a serious problem. 1% prevalence rate is consider the level at which an epidemic can really take off. India is right on the tip of the iceberg. I heard one of my gay friends say the other day that “being gay is not an identity it is a sideline.” (not his words, quoting someone). I think that describes the gay friends I have; similarly being straight is not an identity. I find people on either side of the debate that make sexuality an identity to be distasteful. |
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Posted: 2/25/2007 10:35:24 AM EDT
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yep...that's them... fred |
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Posted: 2/25/2007 10:38:14 AM EDT
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Hello vrwc0915,
thanks for quoting me on this. Now for facts
Your sort of right on this. Gays make up a larger percentage of people who have HIV but the gay community its self doesnt have a large percentage of people with HIV.
Sorry, wrong here. There is nothing to back this. infact there is a lot reserch out there stating the opposite. Would you mind linking to where you got this info?
They procreate as in have sex and I think thats why you dont like them. But no, gay males cannot reproduce and females can only with sperm being donated but that can will change with more advances in cloning. The males normaly adopt children. Sence there is a stigma about two men adopting they normaly have to adopt black or mixed children, childern born addicted to drugs or children born with severe medical issues. Sounds like something Jesus would do.
The whole of society is not gay. Im not gay, your not gay, most of the world is not gay. Gays are not wanting you or your childern to be gay. They just want the same rights you have.
Do you even know what the word "tollerance" means? |
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Posted: 2/25/2007 10:38:31 AM EDT
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Considering gay males are NOT the leader in new infections your numbers are a bit off. Minority, heterosexual women can claim the no. 1 position in rates of incidence in the US (that is new infections) every year since 2004. Gay men claim the no. 1 position in rates of prevalence (total infections.) |
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Posted: 2/25/2007 10:40:57 AM EDT
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FYI 2.1 is replacement. |
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Posted: 2/25/2007 10:56:31 AM EDT
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+1 If "morally-upstanding, Golden-rule following, benevolent Christians" didn't make such a big deal about someone following a different lifestyle, then it wouldn't be a big deal. YOU don't have to approve of their lifestyle. I don't see why anyone cares about making someone else conform to their idea of normal. You have your beliefs, they have theirs, I have mine, etc etc. Guess what: not everyone is going to be the same. I don't go pushing people to be a dog person or persecuting people for liking Jeff Gordon, and gay people aren't out there trying to make me gay. There is a word that people who bash gays and then profess to be true members of a religion that loves all as their brother: Hypocrisy. Hell, I have had my hair cut by a gay Wiccan priest for the last 10 years. And how gay am I? I just gave my girlfriend about 15 orgasms last night, before I took my pants off. So, obviously, I have been influenced by his nefarious ways... If gay people weren't persecuted, then their sexual choice would be a non-issue. If people realized that human beings are omni-vores and have been for thousands of years, then eating meat would be a non-issue. If people were considered responsible for their own actions, then alcohol and drugs would be a non-issue (and not nearly as prevalent as they are now). If guns weren't vilified as a dangerous weapon and instead seen as the tools they are, then ARFCOM would be a tech forum. If conservative pro-firearm sites didn't have hateful, bigoted, and openly stupid vitriolic rhetoric like we have seen in this thread, maybe we would have less people calling us ignorant, backwards rednecks. Instead of advocating for the safe use of a tool in a fun hobby, we are seen as a bunch of people trying to vilify and persecute a group that only wants to do their own legal, personal, and private thing. We don't tolerate racists here, I cannot fathom why we tolerate this either. Shit, its no wonder why so many people lump us in with the same people who go to Klan rallies and blow up abortion clinics. |
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Posted: 2/25/2007 11:14:46 AM EDT
[#30]
I can think of a lot of reasons not to like someone.
Who they like to have sex with (as long as it isn't children) is not one of them. |
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Posted: 2/25/2007 11:25:40 AM EDT
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Frankly I could give a good god damned about the subject. But let me give you a piece of my mind.
There are a few things that need to be done in this country to ensure it survives. 1) balance the budget. 2) fight islamic assholes who want to kill us. 3) make sure we have a sound economy and don't go socialist. If you want to blow all your political capital on subjects like this and ensure Democrats take all three branches of government in two years, keep this assinine bullshit up. Then you'll have the gay and abortion agenda overrunning this place. |
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Posted: 2/25/2007 11:29:26 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/25/2007 11:37:42 AM EDT
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I don't blow up abortion clinics and my white hood is at the cleaners. |
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Posted: 2/25/2007 11:43:49 AM EDT
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[sarcasm]We should ban black folk too.....Crime rates is way higher in blacks. They are more likely to goto jail, suffer disease, be violent offenders, and so on. We should not condone blacks.[sarcasm]
Actually I am trolling here. I am one who does not condone gayness and thinks that there is a difference between an inclination and action. I am inclined to want to nail every cute piece of female tail I see. I only nail the wife. Not giving in to our compulsions is something that every person has to do. I realize that we cannot be expected to win against them all. Gayness is another sin, and they suffer the consequences from their actions (disease, ostracism, etc.). I do not think that it is my job to punish them further. I think that Gays and every other American have all the rights that the rest of us have, and no more. Among these rights is the right to be discriminated against for the choices we make. I am not going to hire a guy dressed as Charo as my babysitter, now am I going to hire some yo "g" muthafukka looking guy, or a tattooed pierced up freak. I am not going to rent a place up to someone who makes stupid, irresponsible decisions on a regular basis, and wearing assless chaps ain't going to help a person's case any more than "Grillz" or a 0000 nose ring, or being a chain smoking 22 y.o. pregnant single girl with 4 other kids of obviously mixed parentage. P.S. I voted positive, if just for only for their interior decorating abilities. |
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Posted: 2/25/2007 11:46:15 AM EDT
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I voted positive, when you step back and look at the totality vis a vie the inherent gheyness of the overall big picture.
That and I will allways vote to skew poll results. |
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Posted: 2/25/2007 11:58:33 AM EDT
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My wife works at a high end restaurant in Boise and many of the staff the publics sees is gay and the kitchen staff are illegals. A soap opera couldn't be stranger than this place.
One of the lesbians that works there, received sperm from a very flamboyant gay coworker who also works at the restaurant and used the sperm to impregnate herself. (according to them no intercourse took place) The flamboyant gay father, then married the pregnant lesbian's lesbian lover who is the unofficial adopted mother/father of the baby. The pregnant lesbian's lesbian lover, who is now married to the flamboyant gay coworker, has medical insurance through her job. Now because the flamboyant gay father is married to the lesbian mother's lesbian lover, the child can be on the flamboyant gay's wife's medical insurance. Got it? And to top it all off, the mother of the child is a virgin.  I swear by the dependability of my ammo stash that the above is true! |
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Posted: 2/25/2007 12:02:40 PM EDT
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If a homosexual keeps their mouth shut about their sexual preferences, and doesn't feel they deserve special treatment, all the power to them.
If they have an agenda, try to push their preference system onto others, or become overly vocal about it, well, then they go into the bad pile with the other groups of this type (political, religious, or otherwise). I personally don't feel its necessary for my heterosexual friends to disclose any personal information on the subject, and I feel that the homosexual friends should hold the same line. The one homosexual friend I do have does so, and I have been friends with him for 20 years, and expect it to continue for another 20. |
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Posted: 2/25/2007 12:02:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/25/2007 12:41:21 PM EDT
[#39]
Somebody - PLEASE tell me how homos have a "positive" effect on society, overall.
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Posted: 2/25/2007 12:48:21 PM EDT
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The same as any other law abiding segment of society has a positive influence. |
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Posted: 2/25/2007 1:00:23 PM EDT
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That is your own interpretation to the original question - you assume the fact they are a homo has no bearing on anything at all in society.... therefore... you are restating the question as they are a person.... and evaluate their contribution to society based on the fact theyr are a person. That is completely twisting the equation to meet your outcome... IMHO.... which is *NOT* positive - it is simply rated as any other person.... so it could be negative, positive, or none. When a question is asked - specifically addressing a group of people's common behavior - it goes without saying we are discussion the behavior as a factor - not just the principle that homos are people too. The question specifically addresses the "homo" part - is homosexuality positive, neagtive, or no impact, with respect to soceity? Will you answer that as "positive" ???? As in - homosexuality, overall - has a "positive" impact on society? |
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Posted: 2/25/2007 1:03:43 PM EDT
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Looks like 5.96% of ARFCOM are pillow biters
 Homos are a big portion of America's moral decay. They deserve nothing but scorn. |
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Posted: 2/25/2007 1:05:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/25/2007 1:22:18 PM EDT
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Plenty of homosexuality throughout the ancient world like rome, athens, sparta, and they were all great powers in their respective times.
I fail to see how it has a negative impact on society. If you are arguing it harms the nuclear family unit, then 1) they are gay and wouldn't have lived like that and 2) blatent sexuality and femenist movement have done far more harm than gays have. |
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Posted: 2/25/2007 1:28:11 PM EDT
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They are not going around complaining about "breeders" whose actions cause crime, raise taxes, bankrupt the nation, destroy Social Security and clog the courts with stupid stuff. Now If you are talking values how about that little slut with the 55 hour marriage. How about the shaved head one. How about Anna Nicole Smith and all of the drama going around her death. How about all of the boozed up, druged up rednecks that "breeders" look to as heros. Don't you think that your lifstyle shouldn't be forced upon them. Better look at your house before point out errors in anothers house. One thing I've learned in my 55 years is that those you are always talking about homosexuality and putting them down are closet homosexuals themselves who are trying to hide who they really are. |
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Posted: 2/25/2007 1:54:25 PM EDT
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Driving a railroad spike into your eye is not natural either. |
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Posted: 2/25/2007 2:00:30 PM EDT
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Again,"views" change, but truth does not. Don't believe everything they're telling you in college my young liberal friend. |
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Posted: 2/25/2007 2:05:47 PM EDT
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 Gays have a negative impact. Look around the world. Is there a single gay society or nation that is a major player, or leading the world in some capacity? Of course not. Gays do not bear children (fewer citizens, taxpayers, voters), they live unhealthy lives, and become a burden on their resources and everybody else's resources.  The best thing we can do with gays is to send them to the front lines as "bullet receipt technicians" or as "IED disposal specialists" because their deaths will be of some use in those situations. 
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Posted: 2/25/2007 2:18:34 PM EDT
[#49]
 Heres to another 55 years to fix what you think you know. |
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Posted: 2/25/2007 2:28:30 PM EDT
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I would say we have a very positive effect....Hell who do you think plans your wedding for you. Your wives hair would look like bird have been pecking at it and first and most importantly..
you would never be able to eat in a resturant besides McDs....
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