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Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:48:47 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:49:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Burley:
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Why not just turn them in at that point?

Or does it go "you can have them when you dig them up and pry the cap off"
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Originally Posted By Thedude27:
Sign whatever piece of paper you want Im not turning shit in.
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Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:51:15 PM EDT
tacocat     Go back to DU where you belong.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:53:42 PM EDT
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Washington DC has proven to be the enemy of free America.

There is a lesson to be learned (albeit from two pieces of shit) from the impact a talented shooter and a nice scoped rifle can have . One would be wise to study such things. For education only, of course.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:54:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By tacocat:



How much do you think is enough if you can no longer use any in public view?
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Originally Posted By tacocat:
Originally Posted By ageguy:
Buy ammo.



How much do you think is enough if you can no longer use any in public view?



When i run out and the brass is piled high and hot
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:54:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ageguy:
tacocat     Go back to DU where you belong.
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Why do I belong at DU?  I asked a legitimate question.  What good will burying guns do?  What good is all the ammo you have stacked in the corner gonna do for you when you can't shoot it?  Maybe if you don't like reading what other people have to say you should stay off the internet.

I really want to know.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:55:16 PM EDT
To elaborate at the time of the revolution the country was much smaller, and the government had much less control. I'm not trying to downplay the risk the founders took, but it was much easier to secretly plan and discuss options then. The number of people they needed for success was much smaller. If need be it was also easier to avoid and hide from the authorities.

The number of people required to do what they did is substantially higher now, and it's obviously much harder to coordinate a larger number of people. I'm sure everyone have heard the jokes about militias and how most of the members are undercover feds.

So what it seems to me we have is a bunch of individuals and small groups that can't easily coordinate or plan with each other. It's impossible to even get an idea of how many people there are that are even willing to do anything. As we've already seen on this thread different people have different lines in the sand and it's understandable that no one wants to be the first to try the waters so to speak.

I know that California and New York and other similar places aren't necessarily indicative of the whole country, but nothing has really happened in those states in regard to the infringements there. Maybe it just isn't bad enough there yet for the people who live there to do something, or maybe most people just don't have it in them to do what is necessary.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:56:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FlyLeaf:



When i run out and the brass is piled high and hot
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Originally Posted By FlyLeaf:
Originally Posted By tacocat:
Originally Posted By ageguy:
Buy ammo.



How much do you think is enough if you can no longer use any in public view?



When i run out and the brass is piled high and hot


How many ammo cans are you going to hump into that gun fight?
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:56:59 PM EDT
Re-read my post, dipshit.  I didn't advocate burying firearms.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:59:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By tacocat:


How many ammo cans are you going to hump into that gun fight?
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Originally Posted By tacocat:
Originally Posted By FlyLeaf:
Originally Posted By tacocat:
Originally Posted By ageguy:
Buy ammo.



How much do you think is enough if you can no longer use any in public view?



When i run out and the brass is piled high and hot


How many ammo cans are you going to hump into that gun fight?



Who said im going to hump it anywhere?

Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:59:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Paul:
We all have but one hill to die on so choose wisely.

A full ban and confiscation is impossible even if the President thinks he or she can write the laws. Once the Supreme Court goes 5/4 liberal they can start destroying the 2nd one bit at a time.

We see the populous presidents trying to take matters into their own hands creating laws out of nothing - and completely going against the laws that congress as passed ... and getting away with it.
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This is true and I think what is really troubling me. Without sounding to morbid I would hate to die in vain so to speak. I think that's why there is so much inaction. No one wants to fail, and they certainly don't want to if it cost them their life.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:00:22 AM EDT
We have a troll alert...  Repeat... troll alert....
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Originally Posted By ageguy:
Re-read my post, dipshit.  I didn't advocate burying firearms.
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I never said you did silly goose.  I'm sorry I ruffled your feathers you simple little girl.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:02:40 AM EDT
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Everybody has a hill to die on.
As another poster said, as long as  AC and football are on, no one will do anything.
Things can still be done, though. Get your 3-4 homies together, make lists, and get to bipod pushing. Not hard at all.


 
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:03:42 AM EDT
We have a troll alert... Repeat... troll alert....
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:05:18 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By FlyLeaf:



Who said im going to hump it anywhere?

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Originally Posted By FlyLeaf:
Originally Posted By tacocat:
Originally Posted By FlyLeaf:
Originally Posted By tacocat:
Originally Posted By ageguy:
Buy ammo.



How much do you think is enough if you can no longer use any in public view?



When i run out and the brass is piled high and hot


How many ammo cans are you going to hump into that gun fight?



Who said im going to hump it anywhere?



So at your home?  Do you have family to worry about? I'm genuinely asking so don't take it as trolling.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:05:36 AM EDT
Tree of Liberty, and all of that.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:05:45 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By FlyingIllini:


Oh I believe the dems are serious about doing it.   They have proven so many times.

The part that is bullshit is all the nonsense about civil war II, LOL.
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Originally Posted By 3rdpig:
It's bullshit to inflame her base.  Just like the wall is for Trump, forcing large corporations into paying crippling taxes is for Bernie and abolishing the IRS is for Cruz.  None of it is ever going to happen and they know it.  The  time has come to look them in the face and call it what it is, utter and complete bullshit.


Oh I believe the dems are serious about doing it.   They have proven so many times.

The part that is bullshit is all the nonsense about civil war II, LOL.


You are the enemy. The asshole that turns in his neighbor for harboring a Jew.

You think we are going to lay down? Just hand them over? Give up, and call it a day?

Fuck you. Fuck you, and everyone like you. I'm not giving up shit. What you fail to realize, is that there are people in this Country who DO give a fuck about our rights. People willing to kill, and die for them.

ELL oh ELL
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:10:24 AM EDT
I have decided to exempt myself from all future gun control measures.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:11:45 AM EDT
Thankyou, tacocat for reminding me of history.  I have just bought 1000 rds of ammo AND  2 more magazines thanks to you.
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Originally Posted By ageguy:
Thankyou, tacocat for reminding me of history.  I have just bought 1000 rds of ammo AND  2 more magazines thanks to you.
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Good on you
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:13:00 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ThrustMyStoma:
Everybody has a hill to die on.

As another poster said, as long as  AC and football are on, no one will do anything.

Things can still be done, though. Get your 3-4 homies together, make lists, and get to bipod pushing. Not hard at all.  
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If everyone did that it would be successful. Who is going to be first though, and why hasn't it happened yet? I'm guessing things aren't bad enough yet.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:14:56 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By GenoGS:


If everyone did that it would be successful. Who is going to be first though, and why hasn't it happened yet? I'm guessing things aren't bad enough yet.
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Originally Posted By GenoGS:
Originally Posted By ThrustMyStoma:
Everybody has a hill to die on.

As another poster said, as long as  AC and football are on, no one will do anything.

Things can still be done, though. Get your 3-4 homies together, make lists, and get to bipod pushing. Not hard at all.  


If everyone did that it would be successful. Who is going to be first though, and why hasn't it happened yet? I'm guessing things aren't bad enough yet.

The media will go all out to brand those folks as racist right wingers and discredit the cause, no matter how just.

That should tell you your first targets.

Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:15:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By motown_steve:
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I guess if that's how you identify that's ok.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:15:40 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By FlyNavy75:

The media will go all out to brand those folks as racist right wingers and discredit the cause, no matter how just.

That should tell you your first targets.

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Originally Posted By FlyNavy75:
Originally Posted By GenoGS:
Originally Posted By ThrustMyStoma:
Everybody has a hill to die on.

As another poster said, as long as  AC and football are on, no one will do anything.

Things can still be done, though. Get your 3-4 homies together, make lists, and get to bipod pushing. Not hard at all.  


If everyone did that it would be successful. Who is going to be first though, and why hasn't it happened yet? I'm guessing things aren't bad enough yet.

The media will go all out to brand those folks as racist right wingers and discredit the cause, no matter how just.

That should tell you your first targets.




Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:17:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By EasTexan:
You shouldn't own a gun if you don't know where your endgame is.
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Lol
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Originally Posted By GenoGS:
I guess if that's how you identify that's ok.
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Originally Posted By GenoGS:



Originally Posted By motown_steve:

I have decided to exempt myself from all future gun control measures.




I guess if that's how you identify that's ok.




 
Hey, you got something there!




I self identify as someone who is immune to gun control laws...




I'll work on it.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:18:18 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By tacocat:

So at your home?  Do you have family to worry about? I'm genuinely asking so don't take it as trolling.
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Not something i would comment on publicly if it came down to that,which for the record i really hope never happens for everyone's sake and for the country

No family close by to worry about,but plenty of well minded people to count on.

That is all im going to say on this matter.
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Originally Posted By tacocat:



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Originally Posted By tacocat:
Originally Posted By ageguy:
Buy ammo.



How much do you think is enough if you can no longer use any in public view?


That's the thing... as much as you can realistically carry is the limit.  The rest is masturbation.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:19:42 AM EDT

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How many ammo cans are you going to hump into that gun fight?
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Originally Posted By FlyLeaf:


Originally Posted By tacocat:


Originally Posted By ageguy:

Buy ammo.






How much do you think is enough if you can no longer use any in public view?






When i run out and the brass is piled high and hot




How many ammo cans are you going to hump into that gun fight?
Tactical wheelbarrow  

 
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:20:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Eagle_19er:
I hope to God it doesn't come to that. I truly do.

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It's more likely blood will run in the streets from the great "beans vs. no beans" showdown of 2018
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:22:50 AM EDT
Most people just like to talk a big game.
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Originally Posted By FlyLeaf:


Not something i would comment on publicly if it came down to that,which for the record i really hope never happens for everyone's sake and for the country

No family close by to worry about,but plenty of well minded people to count on.

That is all im going to say on this matter.
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Originally Posted By FlyLeaf:
Originally Posted By tacocat:

So at your home?  Do you have family to worry about? I'm genuinely asking so don't take it as trolling.


Not something i would comment on publicly if it came down to that,which for the record i really hope never happens for everyone's sake and for the country

No family close by to worry about,but plenty of well minded people to count on.

That is all im going to say on this matter.


Good to go.  These threads always make me wonder because its a hard choice to make and obviously its up to every individual to decide.  It just seems like everyone is on a different page in terms of priorities.  Do you think it was easier during the revolutionary war for example?  Did everyone agree like "alright its fucking FO time right now.  This cant go on one minute further.".
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Originally Posted By tacocat:
Good to go.  These threads always make me wonder because its a hard choice to make and obviously its up to every individual to decide.  It just seems like everyone is on a different page in terms of priorities.  Do you think it was easier during the revolutionary war for example?  Did everyone agree like "alright its fucking FO time right now.  This cant go on one minute further.".
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Originally Posted By tacocat:





Originally Posted By FlyLeaf:




Originally Posted By tacocat:





So at your home?  Do you have family to worry about? I'm genuinely asking so don't take it as trolling.








Not something i would comment on publicly if it came down to that,which for the record i really hope never happens for everyone's sake and for the country





No family close by to worry about,but plenty of well minded people to count on.





That is all im going to say on this matter.






Good to go.  These threads always make me wonder because its a hard choice to make and obviously its up to every individual to decide.  It just seems like everyone is on a different page in terms of priorities.  Do you think it was easier during the revolutionary war for example?  Did everyone agree like "alright its fucking FO time right now.  This cant go on one minute further.".
Only about 40-45% of the colonists supported the revolution, 15-20% supported England and the rest were neutral.


 



Forgot to add....only 3% actively participated in the revolution.
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Originally Posted By tacocat:


Good to go.  These threads always make me wonder because its a hard choice to make and obviously its up to every individual to decide.  It just seems like everyone is on a different page in terms of priorities.  Do you think it was easier during the revolutionary war for example?  Did everyone agree like "alright its fucking FO time right now.  This cant go on one minute further.".
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Originally Posted By tacocat:
Originally Posted By FlyLeaf:
Originally Posted By tacocat:

So at your home?  Do you have family to worry about? I'm genuinely asking so don't take it as trolling.


Not something i would comment on publicly if it came down to that,which for the record i really hope never happens for everyone's sake and for the country

No family close by to worry about,but plenty of well minded people to count on.

That is all im going to say on this matter.


Good to go.  These threads always make me wonder because its a hard choice to make and obviously its up to every individual to decide.  It just seems like everyone is on a different page in terms of priorities.  Do you think it was easier during the revolutionary war for example?  Did everyone agree like "alright its fucking FO time right now.  This cant go on one minute further.".


Like I've already posted I think it might have been easier and safer to get together with like minded people then to coordinate. It's a lot harder to get people on the same page when you can't really even discuss it.
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Originally Posted By tacocat:



Why not just turn them in at that point?

Or does it go "you can have them when you dig them up and pry the cap off"
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Originally Posted By tacocat:
Originally Posted By Burley:
Backhoe, 6" PVC pipe, axle grease.



Why not just turn them in at that point?

Or does it go "you can have them when you dig them up and pry the cap off"


Because you can't shoot them all at once and a gun buried in the woods beats a gun seized from your house while you weren't home.
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Originally Posted By GenoGS:


Like I've already posted I think it might have been easier and safer to get together with like minded people then to coordinate. It's a lot harder to get people on the same page when you can't really even discuss it.
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Originally Posted By GenoGS:
Originally Posted By tacocat:
Originally Posted By FlyLeaf:
Originally Posted By tacocat:

So at your home?  Do you have family to worry about? I'm genuinely asking so don't take it as trolling.


Not something i would comment on publicly if it came down to that,which for the record i really hope never happens for everyone's sake and for the country

No family close by to worry about,but plenty of well minded people to count on.

That is all im going to say on this matter.


Good to go.  These threads always make me wonder because its a hard choice to make and obviously its up to every individual to decide.  It just seems like everyone is on a different page in terms of priorities.  Do you think it was easier during the revolutionary war for example?  Did everyone agree like "alright its fucking FO time right now.  This cant go on one minute further.".


Like I've already posted I think it might have been easier and safer to get together with like minded people then to coordinate. It's a lot harder to get people on the same page when you can't really even discuss it.


I know I'm just asking in general.  I assume during the revolutionary war all the guys willing to fight did a whole lot of whispering behind closed doors and out of sight before anything happened.
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Originally Posted By bob1946:


Because you can't shoot them all at once and a gun buried in the woods beats a gun seized from your house while you weren't home.
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Originally Posted By bob1946:
Originally Posted By tacocat:
Originally Posted By Burley:
Backhoe, 6" PVC pipe, axle grease.



Why not just turn them in at that point?

Or does it go "you can have them when you dig them up and pry the cap off"


Because you can't shoot them all at once and a gun buried in the woods beats a gun seized from your house while you weren't home.


See that's why I asked.  So not all of them now it doesn't seem silly.
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People say that but with AWB 2.0, the battle against will be online, specifically via Social Media, of which people are often quick to shun.  They will then show up to do battle only to not know where the war is even being fought at.
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Originally Posted By Techsan02:
All she needs is a favorable congress (which she'll have) and favorable SCOTUS (which she'll have).
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Originally Posted By dskeet:

You realize she can't just do this on her own, right?




All she needs is a favorable congress (which she'll have) and favorable SCOTUS (which she'll have).




 
It's highly unlikely that she will have a favorable house, or a filibuster proof senate.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 1:24:40 AM EDT
Buy your 10 dollar mags now, we will not be seeing these prices again for decades.
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Originally Posted By sirensong:
grandfathering combined with a transfer ban is the most powerful weapon at the gun grabbers' disposal.  they get to brag about 'making progress,' while the "i got mine" mentality will result in far less resistance.  want to kill america's gun culture?  grandfather everything, but ban transfers and regulate ranges.  within a generation, the political will to fight for gun rights will be completely hollowed out (because recreational shooting will be almost extinguished).




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Probably about right.
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Originally Posted By sirensong:
grandfathering combined with a transfer ban is the most powerful weapon at the gun grabbers' disposal.  they get to brag about 'making progress,' while the "i got mine" mentality will result in far less resistance.  want to kill america's gun culture?  grandfather everything, but ban transfers and regulate ranges.  within a generation, the political will to fight for gun rights will be completely hollowed out (because recreational shooting will be almost extinguished).




i've just made myself angry all over again.

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Yep, they won't get their instant gratification but long term, they're going to win.
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Originally Posted By 3rdpig:
It's bullshit to inflame her base.  Just like the wall is for Trump, forcing large corporations into paying crippling taxes is for Bernie and abolishing the IRS is for Cruz.  None of it is ever going to happen and they know it.  The  time has come to look them in the face and call it what it is, utter and complete bullshit.
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I agree.  Except I think Bernie is serious about his bullshit.  He'll at least try hard.  But I also think even the Dems know that you can only burden corporations so much without completely destroying the economy, and they're already a little past that point, so in the end he'll get no more taxes (even though all the Congress idiots will gladly spend lots more imaginary money we don't have).
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Originally Posted By FlyingIllini:



You mean like in NY and CA  ?



Fact: they will do this nationwide and none of you will do shit about it.

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You will be all alone doing shit about it then?
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... it would be fucked.



Next time please vote Republican
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