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Instead of trying to stump her, try to learn something new. That's what you are there for. Note, I think the subject is silly, but so what. Learn.
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Tomorrow in class we have to do an activity on police brutality against blacks. The entire lecture is going to be on how police are racist and blacks are just victims of racism. ARFCOM help me find statistics to refute their points. I'm expecting lots of Mike Brown type examples. Lots of bitching about deadly force and how blacks are disproportionately targeted. View Quote You know what? Fuck that shit. Walk into the Dean's office and tell him you want a pro-rate refund on your tuition because you want an education and you are not getting one. |
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Quoted: If this is a real thread let me give you some advice : Shut the fuck up, get your grade, and get out. A decade ago a militant-feminist accused me of plagiarism TWICE because I didn't keep my mouth shut. She shoved the Hubble telescope up my ass and I had to sit there and explain every reference for TWO 15-page papers. Save yourself the grief. Colleges are liberal institutions and you won't win any battles there. View Quote They got that way by people following your advice. Is it prudent? Is it the path of least resistance? Absofuckinglutely. But, without any doubt whatsoever, liberals own academia because we won't fight for it, and let them preach with impunity. |
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And when the class is over and you get your passing grade and it's official you can tell the "former" teacher they are what helping to cause the destruction of this once great nation. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Rule 1 of rhetorics: Don't start shit from a position of disadvantage. If you're going to do this, you need to absolutely know your shit, front and back, and then you need to wait until the teacher digs themselves in so far that you can nail them repeatedly and mercilessly without reprisal. Then, you need to be okay with the failing grade they're definitely going to give you when you embarrass them. Based upon the fact that this thread even exists, I infer that you do not, in fact, know your shit front and back, and I'm going to predict that you're not going to learn that much before tomorrow. Your best course of action is to shut up and color. Take the A, and get on with your life. And when the class is over and you get your passing grade and it's official you can tell the "former" teacher they are what helping to cause the destruction of this once great nation. Yep. Get your grade and then fill out the class evaluation form with how you feel. Most times the form goes to the head of the department before they are shown to the professor. I'm not saying it will help bring about any change, because most likely the department head is a crazy liberal as well. But it will save you from failing the class. Pick your battles. |
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Make sure to keep the comparative murder rates as the trump card, because they'll argue that the disproportionate crime rates are due to disproportionate enforcement. Murder defies that because you can't manufacture a body, and racist indifference in catching the perp would tend to cause underreporting if anything. Yet the homicide offending rate is almost 8 times higher for blacks than whites.
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Go back and read my edit if you haven't. Remember that statistics don't win arguments like this, feels do.
You'll claim their stats are biased, they'll claim your stats are biased. Students will be pissed you're arguing with the prof and won't give a fuck what you have to say. You have to fight this by hitting them in the feels. This is an emotional argument. Make your fellow students pissed off at gun laws and you win. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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You're an engineering major? You've got more important things to worry about than this class. Edit: actually, if you want to subtly argue against both gun control and show how institutional racism has changed, you could point out the racist roots of gun control and how ccw laws were passed to keep blacks from buying and carrying guns to protect themselves from the likes of the KKK, but then point out how, today, a black man (or woman) can obtain a CCW permit even in the deep south. End with some bs about how we've come far, but have further to go. You'll get a chance to open some eyes about how laws resticting gun ownership hurt the most vulnerable parts of our society Start here: http://jpfo.org/articles-assd02/cramer-racist-roots.htm Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote appreciatge the info, I'll get to reading |
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Quoted: I do not go to college to be indoctrinated by some liberal class. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Instead of trying to stump her, try to learn something new. That's what you are there for. Note, I think the subject is silly, but so what. Learn. I do not go to college to be indoctrinated by some liberal class. Then question everything. <operative word, question> Demand they explain and support their facts. If they can't or won't, that's the path to victory. It may not feel like it, and you may not always win, but lies don't hold up to scrutiny. |
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Go along with her OP, but go over the top, call for getting rid of all police, after all the problem is that we incarcerate to many blacks, they should all be let out. Only whites should be in prison... It makes sense, I am sure she will agree. I just don't want to see a guilty or not guilty thread after she starts texting you nekid pics. View Quote This is the best plan yet! |
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Make sure to keep the comparative murder rates as the trump card, because they'll argue that the disproportionate crime rates are due to disproportionate enforcement. Murder defies that because you can't manufacture a body, and racist indifference in catching the perp would tend to cause underreporting if anything. Yet the homicide offending rate is almost 8 times higher for blacks than whites. View Quote Very good point, I'l make sure to have those handy, I'm making a list of statistics tonight |
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I do not go to college to be indoctrinated by some liberal class. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Instead of trying to stump her, try to learn something new. That's what you are there for. Note, I think the subject is silly, but so what. Learn. I do not go to college to be indoctrinated by some liberal class. And when the class is finished you can tell the libtard teacher the famous observation/statement of former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher:......Socialism fails when you run out of other people's money to spend. |
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Go to THIS Thread and have your teacher explain it:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1859625_Kean_University_student_charged_in_anti_black_tweets___.html |
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http://americanfreepress.net/in-just-35-years-232000-u-s-blacks-killed-by-other-blacks/
Putting these figures in perspective then, for every black killed by a white police officer in the U.S. every year, there are about 71 blacks killed by other blacks. Worse, if you take—on average—9,252 black-on-black murders every year for the past 35 years, you arrive at a staggering 323,820 blacks killed by other blacks on America’s mean streets in just three-and-a-half short decades. The problem, of course, is that this grim statistic will never be mentioned by Al Sharpton, the liberal media or any of the other race baiters out there, who are busy pointing the finger at racist white policemen killing “innocent, unarmed black children.” By the way, last year 105 policemen were killed in the line of duty. This year 112 have been killed to date. That’s more than the number of blacks killed by white policemen, yet Sharpton sheds no tears for any of them. |
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Then question everything. <operative word, question> Demand they explain and support their facts. If they can't or won't, that's the path to victory. It may not feel like it, and you may not always win, but lies don't hold up to scrutiny. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Instead of trying to stump her, try to learn something new. That's what you are there for. Note, I think the subject is silly, but so what. Learn. I do not go to college to be indoctrinated by some liberal class. Then question everything. <operative word, question> Demand they explain and support their facts. If they can't or won't, that's the path to victory. It may not feel like it, and you may not always win, but lies don't hold up to scrutiny. Or, you know; listen to her arguments, see what holds weight and what does not, and question the points that do not logically make sense. Its crazy that college requires someone to listen to an opposing viewpoint, and expects a person in response to either accept some of the premises, or make a counter argument that is better informed. |
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don't fight with 'hate stats'. that just plays into their game. agree with them that police are brutal enforcers of evil capitalist power, and then when all the robots are nodding along, drop the hammer:
"this is the entire justification for gun control. can't allow the working class to have the ability to resist exploitation by the wealthy. gun control is a targeted campaign against minorities and the poor." then sit back and enjoy the show. |
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don't fight with 'hate stats'. that just plays into their game. agree with them that police are brutal enforcers of evil capitalist power, and then when all the robots are nodding along, drop the hammer: "this is the entire justification for gun control. can't allow the working class to have the ability to resist exploitation by the wealthy. gun control is a targeted campaign against minorities and the poor." then sit back and enjoy the show. View Quote Yep. Note how guns are prohibited in,public housing Raciss. |
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Yep. Note how guns are prohibited in,public housing Raciss. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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don't fight with 'hate stats'. that just plays into their game. agree with them that police are brutal enforcers of evil capitalist power, and then when all the robots are nodding along, drop the hammer: "this is the entire justification for gun control. can't allow the working class to have the ability to resist exploitation by the wealthy. gun control is a targeted campaign against minorities and the poor." then sit back and enjoy the show. Yep. Note how guns are prohibited in,public housing Raciss. yep. you can't argue effectively against liberals by disagreeing with them. they'll just increase the volume and repeat themselves. the trick is to agree with them in such a way that they have to disagree with themselves. you won't convince anyone of anything, but it's wonderful entertainment. |
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http://americanfreepress.net/in-just-35-years-232000-u-s-blacks-killed-by-other-blacks/ Putting these figures in perspective then, for every black killed by a white police officer in the U.S. every year, there are about 71 blacks killed by other blacks. Worse, if you take—on average—9,252 black-on-black murders every year for the past 35 years, you arrive at a staggering 323,820 blacks killed by other blacks on America’s mean streets in just three-and-a-half short decades. The problem, of course, is that this grim statistic will never be mentioned by Al Sharpton, the liberal media or any of the other race baiters out there, who are busy pointing the finger at racist white policemen killing “innocent, unarmed black children.” By the way, last year 105 policemen were killed in the line of duty. This year 112 have been killed to date. That’s more than the number of blacks killed by white policemen, yet Sharpton sheds no tears for any of them. View Quote very good info thank you |
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Most of the time there are a bunch of options for the general education requirements, just have to be smart about which ones you take View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What class in this? My son is going to be going to school in a couple of years, and I need to steer him away from this sort of nonsense. Unfortunately most Bachelor's Degrees require a bunch of bullshit courses in the humanities even if you're a science or engineering major. If your son is has a good advisor they can steer him around the worst of the bullshit courses by advising him which, if any, courses will be a substitute for sociology type courses. For instance, I was able to take a geography course instead of sociology. Most of the time there are a bunch of options for the general education requirements, just have to be smart about which ones you take Yep. That's where a good advisor or a more advanced student can help a freshman. Point out the classes that can be avoided by taking a different course that also meets the requirement. |
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Yep. That's where a good advisor or a more advanced student can help a freshman. Point out the classes that can be avoided by taking a different course that also meets the requirement. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What class in this? My son is going to be going to school in a couple of years, and I need to steer him away from this sort of nonsense. Unfortunately most Bachelor's Degrees require a bunch of bullshit courses in the humanities even if you're a science or engineering major. If your son is has a good advisor they can steer him around the worst of the bullshit courses by advising him which, if any, courses will be a substitute for sociology type courses. For instance, I was able to take a geography course instead of sociology. Most of the time there are a bunch of options for the general education requirements, just have to be smart about which ones you take Yep. That's where a good advisor or a more advanced student can help a freshman. Point out the classes that can be avoided by taking a different course that also meets the requirement. There is nothing wrong with sociology if it's taught as intended. But geography is a great course. Look for any history or lit classes. |
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OP, there is a ton of great advice in this thread.
My advice: if you are going to present the facts and not just sit there, film and/or record the class. You might need the footage. Check the legality of it , and if it is a 2 party consent state say you want to record it to help with your speaking skills, but please record it. |
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We know. Facts don't matter to professors. An ideologue with a captive audience. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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lol We know. Facts don't matter to professors. An ideologue with a captive audience. the thing is, OP isn't going to "stump" his professor. it's highly unlikely that he can introduce any kind of 'fact' or 'statistic' that the prof hasn't already heard, and doesn't have a ready answer for. so a wiser approach is to learn the structure of the opposing arguments, so that they can be disrupted rather than merely contradicted. i'm guessing that OP has a couple of years of school behind him. the prof will have at least 8 years in, with over half of that at a very focused level. plus years of research time on top of that. going all-in on a fact jihad against the prof will be a bit like some taliban inshallahing into a mech infantry company: lots of noise, maybe a youtube upload, but most of the audience chuckling at the poor squished bastard. the trick is to learn to fight asymmetrically. |
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Tomorrow in class we have to do an activity on police brutality against blacks. The entire lecture is going to be on how police are racist and blacks are just victims of racism. ARFCOM help me find statistics to refute their points. I'm expecting lots of Mike Brown type examples. Lots of bitching about deadly force and how blacks are disproportionately targeted. UPDATE: Forgot to mention I have to bring in an example of "police brutality." I need something good for this View Quote HeyJackass.com - weird url, but GREAT up-to-date stats on gun crimes in Chicago, including genders of victims, shot placement (when available), as well as ethnicity of both the shooter & victims. ... AND includes wounded/killed by police. April alone has had 21 homicides with the year-to-date being 171. I guess the "brutal" police need to up their game. They've only killed 3 people this year and wounded 1. I mean if they're running around just brutalizing citizens left and right like your teacher suggests. But don't be surprised if she tries to ignore the facts.... any fact that doesn't fit the "narrative" will likely be shrugged off. |
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Quoted: Or, you know; listen to her arguments, see what holds weight and what does not, and question the points that do not logically make sense. Its crazy that college requires someone to listen to an opposing viewpoint, and expects a person in response to either accept some of the premises, or make a counter argument that is better informed. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Instead of trying to stump her, try to learn something new. That's what you are there for. Note, I think the subject is silly, but so what. Learn. I do not go to college to be indoctrinated by some liberal class. Then question everything. <operative word, question> Demand they explain and support their facts. If they can't or won't, that's the path to victory. It may not feel like it, and you may not always win, but lies don't hold up to scrutiny. Or, you know; listen to her arguments, see what holds weight and what does not, and question the points that do not logically make sense. Its crazy that college requires someone to listen to an opposing viewpoint, and expects a person in response to either accept some of the premises, or make a counter argument that is better informed. That's the idea....when I said demand they explain and support their facts, that means agreeing when they do and it runs contrary to your bias. |
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don't fight with 'hate stats'. that just plays into their game. agree with them that police are brutal enforcers of evil capitalist power, and then when all the robots are nodding along, drop the hammer: "this is the entire justification for gun control. can't allow the working class to have the ability to resist exploitation by the wealthy. gun control is a targeted campaign against minorities and the poor." then sit back and enjoy the show. View Quote Very good idea really. I mean look at Mariana's new $1000 gun tax. Essentially they're saying "Guns are ONLY for the rich and privileged." The disenfranchised poor however have no rights in a society like that. |
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That's the idea....when I said demand they explain and support their facts, that means agreeing when they do and it runs contrary to your bias. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Instead of trying to stump her, try to learn something new. That's what you are there for. Note, I think the subject is silly, but so what. Learn. I do not go to college to be indoctrinated by some liberal class. Then question everything. <operative word, question> Demand they explain and support their facts. If they can't or won't, that's the path to victory. It may not feel like it, and you may not always win, but lies don't hold up to scrutiny. Or, you know; listen to her arguments, see what holds weight and what does not, and question the points that do not logically make sense. Its crazy that college requires someone to listen to an opposing viewpoint, and expects a person in response to either accept some of the premises, or make a counter argument that is better informed. That's the idea....when I said demand they explain and support their facts, that means agreeing when they do and it runs contrary to your bias. If more conservatives actually listened and engaged in college. rather than throwing out everything their "liberal" professor says a priori, then we'd be taken a hell of a lot more seriously in academia. |
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HeyJackass.com - weird url, but GREAT up-to-date stats on gun crimes in Chicago, including genders of victims, shot placement (when available), as well as ethnicity of both the shooter & victims. ... AND includes wounded/killed by police. View Quote The reality of the perps is even worse than portrayed on that site. The Chicago homicide clearance rate is about 30%.The 70% that aren't cleared are mostly done by black gang members in the drug trade, because those are harder to solve. The ones that are cleared are mostly easy--domestic violence type stuff, with a higher white proportion. |
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Very good idea really. I mean look at Mariana's new $1000 gun tax. Essentially they're saying "Guns are ONLY for the rich and privileged." The disenfranchised poor however have no rights in a society like that. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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don't fight with 'hate stats'. that just plays into their game. agree with them that police are brutal enforcers of evil capitalist power, and then when all the robots are nodding along, drop the hammer: "this is the entire justification for gun control. can't allow the working class to have the ability to resist exploitation by the wealthy. gun control is a targeted campaign against minorities and the poor." then sit back and enjoy the show. Very good idea really. I mean look at Mariana's new $1000 gun tax. Essentially they're saying "Guns are ONLY for the rich and privileged." The disenfranchised poor however have no rights in a society like that. that's basically what the NFA was: a de facto ban targeted at the economically disempowered. |
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The disproportionate argument is underpinned by the belief that crime is, in actuality, equally distributed among races, cultures, and socioeconomic classes. Bait your teacher into telling the class that, then ask him for proof that the assumption is true. You're going to fail the class, btw. View Quote Assertions made without proof can be dismissed without proof. Have can't prove anything. |
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Ask the teacher/class if they can name one police officer killed in the line of duty.
Ask if the can name a white victim killed while in possession of a toy gun (22 white vs 5 black in 2015) Ask if they can name just one white person killed by police. I'm sure they can name half a dozen blacks, even though more whites are killed by police every year (nearly all justifiable regardless of race). https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings/ |
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I do not go to college to be indoctrinated by some liberal class. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Instead of trying to stump her, try to learn something new. That's what you are there for. Note, I think the subject is silly, but so what. Learn. I do not go to college to be indoctrinated by some liberal class. Yes, of course, you've got it all figured out. Everyone your age does. Myself, the more I learn, the more I discover how little I actually know, but that's just me. You might well arrive at the same conclusion someday, but until then just close your mouth, open your ears and mind, and learn something. Here's a good tip to get you started: no one has ALL the answers to society's problems. Not conservatives nor liberals. There are, in fact, no answers (if there were, the issues would have been long since solved). At best there are compromises that attempt the greatest good at the lowest cost. Those compromises involve input from both sides, which is why you have to learn to listen. Anyway, you are in school to learn. Shut up, keep your opinion to yourself, do your fucking homework, and try to learn something. |
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Anyway, you are in school to learn. Shut up, keep your opinion to yourself, and do your fucking homework, and try to learn something. View Quote you've got it all wrong. college is supposed to be a nurturing safespace for formative experience. you talk like it's for education or something. |
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If this is a real thread let me give you some advice : Shut the fuck up, get your grade, and get out. A decade ago a militant-feminist accused me of plagiarism TWICE because I didn't keep my mouth shut. She shoved the Hubble telescope up my ass and I had to sit there and explain every reference for TWO 15-page papers. Save yourself the grief. Colleges are liberal institutions and you won't win any battles there. View Quote This is good advice |
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Yes, of course, you've got it all figured out. Everyone your age does. Myself, the more I learn, the more I discover how little I actually know, but that's just me. You might well arrive at the same conclusion someday, but until then just close your mouth, open your ears and mind, and learn something. Here's a good tip to get you started: no one has ALL the answers to society's problems. Not conservatives nor liberals. There are, in fact, no answers (if there were, the issues would have been long since solved). At best there are compromises that attempt the greatest good at the lowest cost. Those compromises involve input from both sides, which is why you have to learn to listen. Anyway, you are in school to learn. Shut up, keep your opinion to yourself, and do your fucking homework, and try to learn something. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Instead of trying to stump her, try to learn something new. That's what you are there for. Note, I think the subject is silly, but so what. Learn. I do not go to college to be indoctrinated by some liberal class. Yes, of course, you've got it all figured out. Everyone your age does. Myself, the more I learn, the more I discover how little I actually know, but that's just me. You might well arrive at the same conclusion someday, but until then just close your mouth, open your ears and mind, and learn something. Here's a good tip to get you started: no one has ALL the answers to society's problems. Not conservatives nor liberals. There are, in fact, no answers (if there were, the issues would have been long since solved). At best there are compromises that attempt the greatest good at the lowest cost. Those compromises involve input from both sides, which is why you have to learn to listen. Anyway, you are in school to learn. Shut up, keep your opinion to yourself, and do your fucking homework, and try to learn something. Yes, OP, just shut up and take in the indoctrination. Don't do any independent research or refute their propaganda. |
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Now the video is a liberal hit piece. But what the chief says at the end makes a lot of sense. They patrol the areas of town where the crime happens. Just so happen that's where the black people and Latinos live. So it stands to reason more traffic stops are done in that area and more tickets. http://youtu.be/AjXWjtkrFUk View Quote 13:10 is exactly what i was talking about earlier. clearly relevant facts are introduced to the conversation by the police spokesman...and instantly dismissed through rhetorical softshoe by the interviewer. since the police spokesman played the interviewer's game, he lost--facts make no difference at all. the only way to deal with this sort of thing is to disrupt the left's arguments, rather than trying to 'refute' them. |
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Could be thread of the year! Good Luck Duke! Record if possible.
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ask the libtard teacher why she supports background checks on gun buyers but not Syrian "refugees"
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