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Yes it is. Along with another dozen or so vehicles that you can "recharge" at any fossil fuel station and be on your way. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Me neither - I'm just saying that if someone IS thinking of buying a Tesla for $125K, the Panamera 4S is a kick-ass alternative. Yes it is. Along with another dozen or so vehicles that you can "recharge" at any fossil fuel station and be on your way. Spoken as someone who obviously knows nothing about the Tesla. |
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This video is horrible. The Hellcat driver red-lighted and then kept slamming his foot into it again causing loss of traction. It's not a car problem but the nut behind the wheel. A Hellcat is good for low-11's stock. It's also $59,995 base MSRP versus $98,170(includes incentives) for the base Tesla P85D.
I'd take a Hellcat in a heartbeat. It's a lot of car for the money but we'll see a lot of Darwinism in action with this vehicle because it's power far exceeds the capabilities of 90% of it's owners. This will be a *VERY* frequent occurrence with these cars. https://autos.yahoo.com/news/2015-dodge-challenger-srt-hellcat-crashes-colorado-083512851.html
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Wow. That was a beating! They are cool, but I like my sports cars to have sound. Just cant get passed that one.
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Fancy cars don't excite me like they did a decade ago. Land acquisition is what gets me all riled up nowadays. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I test drove the Tesla P85D on Sunday and the instant torque on that thing was awesome. Threw my head back into the seat. It was also neat how when you lift off the accelerator the car breaks on it's own. Only time you have to press the break peddle is to stop completely. But at the $125k price tag my dad is considering other options. I'd buy an M5 and 8,000 gallons of Premium Unleaded. Or, do what my wife did, and buy a Panamera. The Tesla was the other car she was considering. Fancy cars don't excite me like they did a decade ago. Land acquisition is what gets me all riled up nowadays. Amen. As a general rule, land doesn't age or depreciate like a vehicle...but thats just my experience. |
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Me neither - I'm just saying that if someone IS thinking of buying a Tesla for $125K, the Panamera 4S is a kick-ass alternative. Yes it is. Along with another dozen or so vehicles that you can "recharge" at any fossil fuel station and be on your way. Spoken as someone who obviously knows nothing about the Tesla. LOL. I know all I need to know. If I wanted to leave right now and go to my property outside of Asheville, NC, I would have to drive for 45 minutes and stop at the nearest supercharger station and top off (30 minutes) so that I would then have enough juice to make it to Atlanta. I would have to stop in downtown Atlanta (not able to use the 285 bypass like a normal driver would) and recharge (45 minutes) for the remainder of the trip to NC. While in Asheville, I can plug into my 110v extension cord and rack up an incredible 20 miles of range per hour of charge while I sit and stare at my beautiful electric car. Oh yeah buddy, where do i sign up? |
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They should have at least got a driver. That, and the Challenger is a pretty gal but she's fat. Half the price, though. I wouldn't turn one down. I really wish that Dodge's design/styling team would go to work for a real car company. They do put out some sexy looking shitty vehicles. |
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I test drove the Tesla P85D on Sunday and the instant torque on that thing was awesome. Threw my head back into the seat. It was also neat how when you lift off the accelerator the car breaks brakes on it's own. Only time you have to press the break peddle brake pedal is to stop completely. But at the $125k price tag my dad is considering other options. I wouldn't buy a car that breaks that easily. The braking on its own would be the side effects of regenerative braking. Turns the motors into generators by reversing polarity |
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Instant torque is instant. This. If you haven't driven one, you have no idea. I'm a big fan of Tesla. It's the beginning of the end of the ICE in my opinion. The above video is a poor comparison, though. |
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LOL. I know all I need to know. If I wanted to leave right now and go to my property outside of Asheville, NC, I would have to drive for 45 minutes and stop at the nearest supercharger station and top off (30 minutes) so that I would then have enough juice to make it to Atlanta. I would have to stop in downtown Atlanta (not able to use the 285 bypass like a normal driver would) and recharge (45 minutes) for the remainder of the trip to NC. While in Asheville, I can plug into my 110v extension cord and rack up an incredible 20 miles of range per hour of charge while I sit and stare at my beautiful electric car. Oh yeah buddy, where do i sign up? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Me neither - I'm just saying that if someone IS thinking of buying a Tesla for $125K, the Panamera 4S is a kick-ass alternative. Yes it is. Along with another dozen or so vehicles that you can "recharge" at any fossil fuel station and be on your way. Spoken as someone who obviously knows nothing about the Tesla. LOL. I know all I need to know. If I wanted to leave right now and go to my property outside of Asheville, NC, I would have to drive for 45 minutes and stop at the nearest supercharger station and top off (30 minutes) so that I would then have enough juice to make it to Atlanta. I would have to stop in downtown Atlanta (not able to use the 285 bypass like a normal driver would) and recharge (45 minutes) for the remainder of the trip to NC. While in Asheville, I can plug into my 110v extension cord and rack up an incredible 20 miles of range per hour of charge while I sit and stare at my beautiful electric car. Oh yeah buddy, where do i sign up? Tesla.com would be a great place to sign up. The more the merrier. |
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I'm guessing a Civic could have beaten a driver that bad. Or me in my crew cab Silverado... Even professional guys in the NHRA smoke em from the line sometimes. both cars are awesome |
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Seems like purely a driver issue. False start, spinning his tires... yeah, the Hellcat driver was a dumbass. I'd like to see what the Model S D does against a Hellcat with good drivers in both cars. Assuming they're both good drivers and both running factory stock tires, the Hellcat should post a slightly lower ET every time. wrong. you need a good driver for the hellcat. for p85d you just need a fast reaction time. the car does it all. |
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LOL. I know all I need to know. If I wanted to leave right now and go to my property outside of Asheville, NC, I would have to drive for 45 minutes and stop at the nearest supercharger station and top off (30 minutes) so that I would then have enough juice to make it to Atlanta. I would have to stop in downtown Atlanta (not able to use the 285 bypass like a normal driver would) and recharge (45 minutes) for the remainder of the trip to NC. While in Asheville, I can plug into my 110v extension cord and rack up an incredible 20 miles of range per hour of charge while I sit and stare at my beautiful electric car. Oh yeah buddy, where do i sign up? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Seems like purely a driver issue. False start, spinning his tires... yeah, the Hellcat driver was a dumbass. I'd like to see what the Model S D does against a Hellcat with good drivers in both cars. Assuming they're both good drivers and both running factory stock tires, the Hellcat should post a slightly lower ET every time. wrong. you need a good driver for the hellcat. for p85d you just need a fast reaction time. the car does it all. Fair enough. |
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They should have at least got a driver. That, and the Challenger is a pretty gal but she's fat. Half the price, though. I wouldn't turn one down. I really wish that Dodge's design/styling team would go to work for a real car company. They do put out some sexy looking shitty vehicles. I'm not a Chrysler/Dodge guy by any means, but my neighbors 300 SRT is a fantastic looking and sounding car. But knowing that its a 50K Chrysler? Visions of random things peeling off, gear grinding instead of meshing, engines not engining, etc.... Maybe not fair anymore, I dunno. But hard to toss that image of Chrysler quality.... |
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Me neither - I'm just saying that if someone IS thinking of buying a Tesla for $125K, the Panamera 4S is a kick-ass alternative. Yes it is. Along with another dozen or so vehicles that you can "recharge" at any fossil fuel station and be on your way. Spoken as someone who obviously knows nothing about the Tesla. LOL. I know all I need to know. If I wanted to leave right now and go to my property outside of Asheville, NC, I would have to drive for 45 minutes and stop at the nearest supercharger station and top off (30 minutes) so that I would then have enough juice to make it to Atlanta. I would have to stop in downtown Atlanta (not able to use the 285 bypass like a normal driver would) and recharge (45 minutes) for the remainder of the trip to NC. While in Asheville, I can plug into my 110v extension cord and rack up an incredible 20 miles of range per hour of charge while I sit and stare at my beautiful electric car. Oh yeah buddy, where do i sign up? People who own $80k+ cars generally have more than one. If you need to take a road trip and have no way to recharge...take your other car. The one with the gas tank. Seriously, it's not hard. And that's the continual problem for me (and part of the reason my wife didn't buy a Tesla). Essentially, to own a Tesla, you still need to own a "normal" car. That means the Tesla isn't properly car, it's something else (a toy, a status symbol or whatever), which has some of the functionality of a car, but not enough that it can be your ONLY car (for most people). |
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Yes it is. Along with another dozen or so vehicles that you can "recharge" at any fossil fuel station and be on your way. Spoken as someone who obviously knows nothing about the Tesla. LOL. I know all I need to know. If I wanted to leave right now and go to my property outside of Asheville, NC, I would have to drive for 45 minutes and stop at the nearest supercharger station and top off (30 minutes) so that I would then have enough juice to make it to Atlanta. I would have to stop in downtown Atlanta (not able to use the 285 bypass like a normal driver would) and recharge (45 minutes) for the remainder of the trip to NC. While in Asheville, I can plug into my 110v extension cord and rack up an incredible 20 miles of range per hour of charge while I sit and stare at my beautiful electric car. Oh yeah buddy, where do i sign up? People who own $80k+ cars generally have more than one. If you need to take a road trip and have no way to recharge...take your other car. The one with the gas tank. Seriously, it's not hard. Uh, that is what I was saying. Yes it is. Along with another dozen or so vehicles that you can "recharge" at any fossil fuel station and be on your way.
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And that's the continual problem for me (and part of the reason my wife didn't buy a Tesla). Essentially, to own a Tesla, you still need to own a "normal" car. That means the Tesla isn't properly car, it's something else (a toy, a status symbol or whatever), which has some of the functionality of a car, but not enough that it can be your ONLY car (for most people). View Quote How often do you really take 300 mile road trips without a supercharger on the route somewhere? Just take the Mustang. |
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I'm an American v8 fan but mark my words, In less than ten years the fastest production car will be electric.
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... Me neither - I'm just saying that if someone IS thinking of buying a Tesla for $125K, the Panamera 4S is a kick-ass alternative. View Quote The difference for me was the company. Tesla has yet to play a single game with me, on anything. They sent people to my home to replace parts, hell even some of the body armor stuff they sent people to my home. If I have any problem, they either send a truck out to me, or will send someone to pick up the car to bring down to Phoenix for me. Every update gets applied either automatically, or they send someone to do the update. (I gained an extra 5% range on the latest software upgrade, done overnight, while I slept.) Contrasted with Porsche, where it was always a gamble whether they would honor an obvious in warranty complaint. I prefer the companies I buy from cater to me, than I need to be catering to them. Tesla comes to me, YMMV. View Quote Yeah, I've heard from lots of sources (including edmunds.com who tested a Tesla for a year) about how OFTEN Teslas need repair and replacement parts, etc. So I guess it's important to have a company that can respond quickly when their product continually breaks a lot. Porsche requires a very long window for an appointment. View Quote lol The one time (so far) that we called Porsche for an appointment for service (a slight glitch in the entertainment center that was occasionally annoying), they told me to bring it in the next morning and had the loaner waiting for me when I arrived. My wife called Porsche today to schedule a routine maintenance service, and they told her to come in tomorrow morning. Yeah, those sure are "very long windows" To use your own words, your post is "spoken like someone who obviously knows nothing about Porsche" |
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Uh, that is what I was saying. View Quote No it isn't. The scenario you're describing is only an inconvenience to somebody who owns one car. With the possible exception of people who live in places like San Francisco or New York City proper, people with the money to buy a Model S will simply take the other nice car they already own for those odd times they need to do a road trip without a supercharging station along the route. I don't tow a trailer with my Miata, either. Fancy that shit - I own a Jeep too. |
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And that's the continual problem for me (and part of the reason my wife didn't buy a Tesla). Essentially, to own a Tesla, you still need to own a "normal" car. That means the Tesla isn't properly car, it's something else (a toy, a status symbol or whatever), which has some of the functionality of a car, but not enough that it can be your ONLY car (for most people). How often do you really take 300 mile road trips without a supercharger on the route somewhere? Just take the Mustang. The issue for us (in terms of the range) that my wife's elderly parents about 900 miles away. If there's some emergency (perhaps during a big storm, and planes are not flying, or we need to bring a generator, etc.), I want to be ABLE to drive down to them. Sure, there are super-charger stations along the way. But what happens if we're going down as a result of a hurricane, and the grid has been knocked out in parts? Are the supercharger stations independently powered? Do they have generator back-up? All we'd need is ONE to be out, and we wouldn't be able to reach the next one. Then what? There will NOT be enough range to reach another station, and the trip will essentially come to a complete halt until the power is restored. During one storm here in D.C. several years ago, friends of mine were without power for seven days Another issue is that in a car, we could do the drive with one or two stops - only taking enough time to pee and grab some food (again, I am talking about an EMERGENCY trip, where time is presumably of the essence) - and NOT have to stop at least four of five times for a MINIMUM of 30 minutes to charge the battery 80%, and possibly having to take much longer if the station is already being fully used and having to wait for others. So even under the best of conditions, it would add at least 2 more hours, possibly much more, to a 12-13 hour trip. Finally, I have a real concern about weather. Lots of testing has shown that batteries (whether Tesla, Leaf, whatever) lose a LOT of range when the weather is really cold. Trying to make it to the next supercharging station on a long trip, and then you get stuck in a snowed-in road for a few hours - practically guarantees that the car WILL run out of power and leave your stranded. That's the core of my problem. For every day use, I am sure the Tesla is absolutely awesome (other than the reliability issues, but I am sure Tesla will eventually get that sorted out). But I am simply too paranoid to be able to own a car that I do not think I can rely on for a long trip during a winter storm, or during a widespread power outage, etc. My current car, although it is a Honda, is almost 10 years old, and I am not confident enough in a 10 year old car to want to rely on that for an emergency either. So the dilemma for us was, in order to buy a Tesla, we would essentially ALSO have had to replace my car. We'd have to buy the Tesla AND a "real" car, in order to be prepared for an emergency long-distance trip. |
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No it isn't. The scenario you're describing is only an inconvenience to somebody who owns one car. With the possible exception of people who live in places like San Francisco or New York City proper, people with the money to buy a Model S will simply take the other nice car they already own for those odd times they need to do a road trip without a supercharging station along the route. I don't tow a trailer with my Miata, either. Fancy that shit - I own a Jeep too. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Uh, that is what I was saying. No it isn't. The scenario you're describing is only an inconvenience to somebody who owns one car. With the possible exception of people who live in places like San Francisco or New York City proper, people with the money to buy a Model S will simply take the other nice car they already own for those odd times they need to do a road trip without a supercharging station along the route. I don't tow a trailer with my Miata, either. Fancy that shit - I own a Jeep too. Cool. So let me get this straight. The Tesla is a great car, as long as you have another, real car incase you need to travel over 265 miles in an emergency situation, or don't want to be inconvenienced with finding charging stations. That does sound awesome. |
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The driver of the Hellcat explained the race against the Tesla.... "The Hellcat was called out at Street Drags today at Palm Beach International Raceway ! I raced against the owner of Drag Times Magazine's 700 Hp Tesla ! Sorry guys I couldn't get it to hook up , so I did one better ! Burned out a full 1/8 of a mile ! I have to say , there were hundreds of people coming over and taking pictures of the Hellcat ! It's like an anomaly , from young kids to grandpas , people just love this car!" "I was actually rushed into this , I was called out over the PA system in front of everyone! So I said to myself , if I don't hook up that I would give them a show!" View Quote |
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<snip> My current car, although it is a Honda, is almost 10 years old, and I am not confident enough in a 10 year old car to want to rely on that for an emergency either. So the dilemma for us was, in order to buy a Tesla, we would essentially ALSO have had to replace my car. We'd have to buy the Tesla AND a "real" car, in order to be prepared for an emergency long-distance trip. View Quote Yeah after reading that, you definitely made the right choice, all things considered. |
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Uh, that is what I was saying. No it isn't. The scenario you're describing is only an inconvenience to somebody who owns one car. With the possible exception of people who live in places like San Francisco or New York City proper, people with the money to buy a Model S will simply take the other nice car they already own for those odd times they need to do a road trip without a supercharging station along the route. I don't tow a trailer with my Miata, either. Fancy that shit - I own a Jeep too. Cool. So let me get this straight. The Tesla is a great car, as long as you have another, real car incase you need to travel over 265 miles in an emergency situation, or don't want to be inconvenienced with finding charging stations. That does sound awesome. Yes. It really is a fucking nice car. My daily driver only has two seats (and that's one too many 90% of the time). When I take the family somewhere, I don't use it. It's a great car as long as you have another real car, in case you need to carry more than one passenger. |
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