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Posted: 8/23/2004 3:46:05 PM EDT
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me too 
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Posted: 8/23/2004 3:48:34 PM EDT
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If it has strong brakes and a good suspension, NO. It's getting the right sized brakes, and properly designed suspension that can be tricky. |
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Posted: 8/23/2004 3:56:49 PM EDT
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In this case, braking performance was not much of a factor. REACTION TIME was the issue - it happened too fast for him to get stopped due to the natural delay in braking.
Wear those seatbelts! You just used up 8 of your 9 lives!! Glad nobody was hurt. |
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Posted: 8/23/2004 4:04:16 PM EDT
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Yes, it's harder. But the actual stopping distances depend heavily on the design of the brakes, suspension, and tires. For a comparison, handguns are harder to shoot accurately then rifles. But an IPSC champ can shoot his handgun more accurately then some kid who just bought his first rifle. Note the two extremes: the Cayenne is a very expensive vehicle, designed by a sports car company. They had the money and the expertise to make it stop just as short as a good sports car. Meanwhile, the Civic is designed for economy and ride comfort, with not nearly as much attention paid to performance. Of course, there are lots of compromises involved too. If you set up the brakes, suspension, and tires to get optimum stopping distances, then you sacrifice ride comfort with the suspension, and the brakes and tires wear out faster. In the extreme with race car equipment, the brakes and tires may perform worse then the economy cars until they are warmed up. |
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Posted: 8/23/2004 4:08:33 PM EDT
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MickeyMouse, I think what this post is getting at, is the other vehicle pulled into his lane w/o the proper spacing between vehicles, and applied it's brakes. Seems like what a lot of people call getting cut off, combined with braking................... The image of the truck's damage makes mwe think the other truck was only about 1/3 of the way into the lane before braking, and the crash. |
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Posted: 8/23/2004 6:31:35 PM EDT
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Ya he wasn't all the way over yet, but he was at a full stop when I slamed him. You should see his truck, it was pretty bad. Mine wouldn't drive, but his did after he bent the fenders out. I think his frame is bent |
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Posted: 8/24/2004 5:08:01 AM EDT
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Never doubted that the other guy changed lanes into you. Unfortunately in OH it doesn't matter much - guy in back is ALWAYS guilty. Sounds like your insurance has the same short sighted opinion.
From my days with race cars I can tell you good braking depends on the entire vehicle. Tires, brakes, springs, shocks, suspension geometry, all of it. With all things right, the lighter vehicle will stop shorter - every time. Folks are not willing to pay for GOOD brakes, either in money or harsher ride. Until you drive something on 12" sticky tires with huge brakes, steel braided lines, properly biased pressures, correct shocks and stiff springs you just can't believe how a vehicle can stop!! Passenger vehicles have WAY too much compliance in hoses, springy calipers etc. Makes for a mushy pedal with poor feel. That kind of system plus low skill drivers brought us ABS systems - which can NOT stop as good as a skilled driver! They DO cover up for the 90% of folks who can't use their brakes to maximum capability. |
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Posted: 8/24/2004 5:24:01 AM EDT
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Same thing in Florida. It doesn't matter if all of the laws of physics cease to exist, and the car freezes instantly in place, if you hit 'em you're fucked. |
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Posted: 8/24/2004 6:44:51 AM EDT
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You should have seen the Dodge (American) caravan after my Rodeo (Japanese) smashed the shit out of it
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