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Posted: 2/3/2017 12:17:54 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/3/2017 12:24:22 AM EDT
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They invented the SCAR, mismatched colors and all. I bet it costs more than a SCAR because HK.
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Posted: 2/3/2017 12:30:07 AM EDT
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Oh snap. On a more serious note, I'm wondering why they didn't just go with the 416. From everything I've read the A5 has addressed most of the platform's quirks. France just bought a giant pile of them, and it sounds like the UK might finally dump that POS SA80 for them as well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So did they rip of FN this time instead of Colt? Oh snap. On a more serious note, I'm wondering why they didn't just go with the 416. From everything I've read the A5 has addressed most of the platform's quirks. France just bought a giant pile of them, and it sounds like the UK might finally dump that POS SA80 for them as well. The more time goes on, the more fixes are introduced with the HK416. One of the latest ones you don't see, which is the protective basket for the disconnector tail that has been getting beaten to death. I wonder what fixes will be on the HK416A6? |
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Posted: 2/3/2017 12:42:35 AM EDT
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I'd better start saving now. Big things were eluded to by Jim Schatz on HKPro, with the factory being built in the US, and this probably being the other this. Looks like HK is moving out of New Hampshirestan, to SC, and expanding the Columbus operation. HK move news |
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Posted: 2/3/2017 12:58:38 AM EDT
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Yea, they had to set up larger operations in the US due to the fact that they cannot export from Germany to other countries because of illegal arms exportation. See example CrookedH&K
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Posted: 2/3/2017 12:59:23 AM EDT
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Design ripped off from XCR. Typical BS
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Posted: 2/3/2017 1:00:03 AM EDT
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No one's trying to trick anyone. The XCR is simply one of the best. 
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Posted: 2/3/2017 1:04:33 AM EDT
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Just accept the AR as the master race already and use the damn 416 like your neighbors in Europe.
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Posted: 2/3/2017 1:05:08 AM EDT
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No one's trying to trick anyone. The XCR is simply one of the best. Who adopted the XCR again? Looks like someone tricked himself. |
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Posted: 2/3/2017 1:10:01 AM EDT
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Yea, they had to set up larger operations in the US due to the fact that they cannot export from Germany to other countries because of illegal arms exportation. See example CrookedH&K Illegal according to whom? The limpwristed German government? Interpol? Some bullshit UN committee? Fuck 'em. |
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Posted: 2/3/2017 1:11:18 AM EDT
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Looks like an ACR and an ARX.
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Posted: 2/3/2017 1:14:49 AM EDT
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HK allegedly had plans to fix the G-36 back in the day and it got nixed by the German MOD as the G-36 was "good enough". Frankly...I like the G-36. It needs to correct some issues like the heat problems and holding zero but that isn't a problem that couldn't be solved with some additional metal in the chassis. Overall, the G-36 has a very reliable basic system. It is ergonomic, compact (version depending), and simple to keep running. It works great in multiple barrel lengths, both suppressed and un suppressed. It is not ammo sensitive and it doesn't require constant lube/clean/lube. Get some decent rails, add a robust optic mount/rail on top, get the heat issue fixed...and it's a good system. The K version in 300 Black would be a solid PDW. Maybe that's just the EOtechs they're using? 
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Posted: 2/3/2017 1:27:35 AM EDT
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What did the author mean by this? Well, if it's got an Ugg boot, that probably means the stock is fuzzy, and the gun hangs out in bars sipping martinis, hoping an M-14 or a FAL will hit on it. Come closing time, it'll probably settle, and go home with an M-4. |
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Posted: 2/3/2017 1:47:41 AM EDT
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<iframe width="480" height="360" src="http://s1223.photobucket.com/user/kolob2/embed/slideshow/"></iframe>
Plastic is for Toys. Here are some real rifles: 1) XCR-M Mini .308, 2) XCR-L 5.56, 3) XCR-M .308 Competition. |
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Posted: 2/3/2017 1:49:29 AM EDT
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Looks like it takes both G-36 mags and AR mags. Will be interested to see how this turns out.
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Illegal according to whom? The limpwristed German government? Interpol? Some bullshit UN committee? Fuck 'em. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yea, they had to set up larger operations in the US due to the fact that they cannot export from Germany to other countries because of illegal arms exportation. See example CrookedH&K Illegal according to whom? The limpwristed German government? Interpol? Some bullshit UN committee? Fuck 'em. Germany. Like with Sig, they can easily revoke export licenses. Sig can no longer export to the US because some pistols we bought for the Mexican government were turned around and sold to cartels. That is why we're only getting USA made Sigs now if I am not mistaken. HK has more restrictions with rifles, as they can't be compatible with full auto parts. This means a redesigned lower, as seen on the MR223. It has been on sale for years in Europe before they can out with the US model, and is or was the only AR approved for sale in Norway. They put a lot of effort getting their products to the market, but both their tough export and our tough import laws make it hard for them. To put it bluntly, if they sold the M223 as is here people would've thrown a fit because the upper could not attach to a regular AR lower. Expanding the factories state side is really the only way they can do it. Given how their guns were banned in the 90s I can see why under Obama they were cautious, but now with Trump in office we may see them get back in the game. |
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Posted: 2/3/2017 1:51:55 AM EDT
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Looks like no one has grown up here in 13 years.
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Posted: 2/3/2017 1:53:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryLooks like no one has grown up here in 13 years. |
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Posted: 2/3/2017 2:03:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryWhere'd you get the photos and who are the guys in the bottom? So here we are, every country in the world is modernizing their small arms and were still stuck with the M4. We are now the last, first world country to use a rifle with 3,000-6,000 rounds bolt and barrel life and a non free floated button rifled barrel. It feels good to be last in small arms. At this point with everyone getting new rifles our M4's are becoming incredibly dated. |
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Posted: 2/3/2017 2:14:44 AM EDT
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Looks pretty clear they ripped off the ACR Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So did they rip of FN this time instead of Colt? Looks pretty clear they ripped off the ACR 
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Posted: 2/3/2017 2:20:41 AM EDT
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Looks like no one has grown up here in 13 years. 
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Posted: 2/3/2017 2:27:16 AM EDT
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I didn't see "Must not melt with moderate firing".
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Posted: 2/3/2017 2:32:18 AM EDT
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This is amazing. Another plastic copy of the now 10 year old Robinson Armament Co XCR-L Rifle. It's taken H&K 10 years to make a copy? The XCR-L and its big brother the XCR-M are arguably the best designed tactical rifles on the planet. Not only do they have the best ergonomics, great durability and reliability, but are IMMEDIATELY available with caliber conversion kits in 5.56, .300 BLK, 6.8, 7.62x39, and 6.5 Grendel (yes, 6.5 Grendel is shipping.) The XCR-M model is IMMEDIATELY available with caliber conversion kits in .308, .243, .260, and 6.5 Creedmoor. I have several of these and have shot them in many of these calibers. The new 2017 models are also now very accurate. Where the SCAR, ACR, and MCX have promised; Robinson Armament has delivered. www.robarm.com I can't believe you put something up like this seriously. So I'm going to say as a troll I wish you had at least wasted a few posts to catch us off guard. |
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Posted: 2/3/2017 2:33:55 AM EDT
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Looks like a Robinson Arms XCR to me. |
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Posted: 2/3/2017 2:46:03 AM EDT
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Looks cool.
Tag to read later. But, H&K thread in GD, so I'm sure the every page is full of derpy derpness from the usual retards. |
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Posted: 2/3/2017 2:46:11 AM EDT
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<iframe width="480" height="360" src="http://s1223.photobucket.com/user/kolob2/embed/slideshow/"></iframe> Plastic is for Toys. Here are some real rifles: 1) XCR-M Mini .308, 2) XCR-L 5.56, 3) XCR-M .308 Competition. Not everything HK makes is superb, but they do built guns for more than bubba the redneck. Wish the same could be said for the brands you seem to have an odd fascination with. I'm sure the many elite military units around the world using Glocks will toss those plastic toys in the garbage though.
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Posted: 2/3/2017 3:01:25 AM EDT
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Looks like no one has grown up here in 13 years. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Looks like no one has grown up here in 13 years. Quoted:
Looks like no one has grown up here in 13 years. 13 years, 6 posts, and you waste 7 and 8 on a ND complaining about people shitposting. Bravo.
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Posted: 2/3/2017 3:04:12 AM EDT
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The more time goes on, the more fixes are introduced with the HK416. One of the latest ones you don't see, which is the protective basket for the disconnector tail that has been getting beaten to death. I wonder what fixes will be on the HK416A6? What, again? 6 generations already. Fuck. Yeah, I wouldn't buy the 416 either. Sounds like HK is using customers to do product testing. |
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Posted: 2/3/2017 3:10:48 AM EDT
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In before the HK fans jerk themselves silly over the news.
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Posted: 2/3/2017 3:13:16 AM EDT
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<iframe width="480" height="360" src="http://s1223.photobucket.com/user/kolob2/embed/slideshow/"></iframe> Plastic is for Toys. Here are some real rifles: 1) XCR-M Mini .308, 2) XCR-L 5.56, 3) XCR-M .308 Competition. Manufacturers with limited understanding of material properties &/or manufacturing capability should acknowledge their limits & stick to what they know. Others with more saavy & capability will continue to advance the industry forward. TL;DR version: acknowledge your limits, play it safe, & leave the heavy lifting to the pros. |
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Posted: 2/3/2017 3:14:52 AM EDT
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In before the HK fans jerk themselves silly over the news. Too late, I'm gonna have some chafing tomorrow because of this. |
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Posted: 2/3/2017 3:49:40 AM EDT
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Looks pretty clear they ripped off the ACR |
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Posted: 2/3/2017 4:02:00 AM EDT
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Looks like three bears and an MSBS had butt sex, and on an unrelated note they simply copied the ACR and looked at current copies like the MSBS and Bren 806
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Posted: 2/3/2017 6:19:01 AM EDT
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So here we are, every country in the world is modernizing their small arms and were still stuck with the M4. When most countries modernize, they adopt the M4. |
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Posted: 2/3/2017 7:17:55 AM EDT
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Cause all the flaws outside of suppressed 10 inch full auto use that people point out in 416/IAR threads are true? Edit. I'd like to see this one win, just for the meltdown. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/steyr_mannlicher_stm556-tfb.jpg I don't think for a second that HK gives a shit about the deficiencies of the 416. For the record, I do NOT like the 416 after having trigger time behind the MR556, and a 416 upper. |
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Posted: 2/3/2017 7:35:02 AM EDT
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Looks like a SCAR 16 and ACR had sex or they just copied the two together. Sure does |
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Posted: 2/3/2017 7:56:35 AM EDT
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It's nice some of you HK haters have all these negative opinions, "not for me", "I don't like it"...etc.
It doesn't matter what you think because this gun is not intended for the US, either military or civilian. It's a direct response to German armed forces request for a modular rifle that is more cost competitive than a 416. Given that the German armed forces have been raised on the G36, this is HK's "modernization" of their flagship German armed forces weapon. The charging handle, paddle magazine release, gas regulator, folding stock, negative space attachment points that they pioneered with the XM8. I think it's quite amusing how some of you are braying like donkeys being eletro-ejaculated about how you'll never buy one and how it will be too expensive to buy here. Newsflash, you're not going to be offered the opportunity to purchase it anytime soon. |
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Posted: 2/3/2017 7:58:55 AM EDT
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This is amazing. Another plastic copy of the now 10 year old Robinson Armament Co XCR-L Rifle. It's taken H&K 10 years to make a copy? The XCR-L and its big brother the XCR-M are arguably the best designed tactical rifles on the planet. Not only do they have the best ergonomics, great durability and reliability, but are IMMEDIATELY available with caliber conversion kits in 5.56, .300 BLK, 6.8, 7.62x39, and 6.5 Grendel (yes, 6.5 Grendel is shipping.) The XCR-M model is IMMEDIATELY available with caliber conversion kits in .308, .243, .260, and 6.5 Creedmoor. I have several of these and have shot them in many of these calibers. The new 2017 models are also now very accurate. Where the SCAR, ACR, and MCX have promised; Robinson Armament has delivered. www.robarm.com 
As soon as I can buy the promised belt-feed and bren kits for an M96, I might consider RobArm to be a viable vendor. Hell as soon as I can buy spare PARTS for an M96, I might consider Robinson Arms. They produced a rifle, promised a bunch of stuff for it, and then turned it all off. What a useless company. |
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Posted: 2/3/2017 8:05:17 AM EDT
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Yea, they had to set up larger operations in the US due to the fact that they cannot export from Germany to other countries because of illegal arms exportation. See example CrookedH&K You came out of the shadows to use your 4th post in 12 years on that? |
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Posted: 2/3/2017 8:09:57 AM EDT
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The more time goes on, the more fixes are introduced with the HK416. One of the latest ones you don't see, which is the protective basket for the disconnector tail that has been getting beaten to death. I wonder what fixes will be on the HK416A6? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So did they rip of FN this time instead of Colt? Oh snap. On a more serious note, I'm wondering why they didn't just go with the 416. From everything I've read the A5 has addressed most of the platform's quirks. France just bought a giant pile of them, and it sounds like the UK might finally dump that POS SA80 for them as well. The more time goes on, the more fixes are introduced with the HK416. One of the latest ones you don't see, which is the protective basket for the disconnector tail that has been getting beaten to death. I wonder what fixes will be on the HK416A6? Yup, Stoner's original design is still the best |
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Posted: 2/3/2017 8:14:53 AM EDT
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Looks like they took the G36 (AR18) and put it in a 416 receiver and slapped a folding stock on it. The 416 already used a AR18 gas system. Now probably uses the AR18 bolt too.
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Posted: 2/3/2017 8:46:22 AM EDT
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does the ACR even exist? maybe i am out of it, i thought it was vaporware? Yeah, there's even an ACR sub forum here. Lacks big name aftermarket support, but there's a cult following and some seriously cool aftermarket parts for it. |
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Posted: 2/3/2017 8:52:37 AM EDT
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Yeah, there's even a wow sub forum here. Lacks big name aftermarket support, but there's a cult following and some seriously cool aftermarket parts for it. It had such potential 
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Posted: 2/3/2017 8:54:27 AM EDT
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It had such potential I'm considering dumping my Colt 6940P for one, now that Bushmaster has promised barrel assemblies and spare parts (again...) |
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Posted: 2/3/2017 9:05:10 AM EDT
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Much H&K. Much innovation.
Why? I thought the Hk416 was perfection...
Negatives (IMO): charging handle too far forward dickmod monolithic upper folding stock Positives: it's not covered in 1913 rails/NAR |
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Posted: 2/3/2017 9:19:23 AM EDT
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Damn. You guys would bitch during a free BJ from a toothless Taylor Swift.
I have as much hate for how HK treats the U.S. market as anyone else, but jesus. It's a great looking rifle that hopefully fixes the 416s and G36s problems. Maybe it'll eventually get sold to us peons, but y'all act like it's a $5,000 Hi-Point that slapped your mothers ass. |
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Posted: 2/3/2017 9:19:23 AM EDT
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Much H&K. Much innovation. Why? I thought the Hk416 was perfection...
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fZEh19qRw9o/WJRqUiugVhI/AAAAAAAAEFI/tDcTNGLRR20YiNY4I-O-RVaF__VBHc0ZwCLcB/s1600/433-02.jpeg Negatives (IMO): charging handle too far forward dickmod monolithic upper folding stock Positives: it's not covered in 1913 rails/NAR At least we know Europe is coming to it senses on the dumbass Bullpup concept. |
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Posted: 2/3/2017 9:21:39 AM EDT
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Much H&K. Much innovation. Why? I thought the Hk416 was perfection...
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fZEh19qRw9o/WJRqUiugVhI/AAAAAAAAEFI/tDcTNGLRR20YiNY4I-O-RVaF__VBHc0ZwCLcB/s1600/433-02.jpeg Negatives (IMO): charging handle too far forward dickmod monolithic upper folding stock Positives: it's not covered in 1913 rails/NAR How is a monolithic rail a negative on this when it's touted as a must-have on ARs? |
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Posted: 2/3/2017 9:21:51 AM EDT
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Damn. You guys would bitch during a free BJ from a toothless Taylor Swift. I have as much hate for how HK treats the U.S. market as anyone else, but jesus. It's a great looking rifle that hopefully fixes the 416s and G36s problems. Maybe it'll eventually get sold to us peons, but y'all act like it's a $5,000 Hi-Point that slapped your mothers ass. I'm a HK fanboy. I have their USP Tactical. I sleep with it, I pet it while it lays with me on my pillow. I call it sweet names.
Seriously, other than the G36, HK has been making really good quality stuff. I still think the M4 is the best and will never be topped until a entirely revolutionary assault rifle is designed. I think Germany would be better served with a German made M4. |
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Posted: 2/3/2017 9:23:55 AM EDT
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Oh snap. On a more serious note, I'm wondering why they didn't just go with the 416. From everything I've read the A5 has addressed most of the platform's quirks. France just bought a giant pile of them, and it sounds like the UK might finally dump that POS SA80 for them as well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So did they rip of FN this time instead of Colt? Oh snap. On a more serious note, I'm wondering why they didn't just go with the 416. From everything I've read the A5 has addressed most of the platform's quirks. France just bought a giant pile of them, and it sounds like the UK might finally dump that POS SA80 for them as well. The 416 was probably too American |
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Posted: 2/3/2017 9:31:02 AM EDT
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HK allegedly had plans to fix the G-36 back in the day and it got nixed by the German MOD as the G-36 was "good enough". Frankly...I like the G-36. It needs to correct some issues like the heat problems and holding zero but that isn't a problem that couldn't be solved with some additional metal in the chassis. Overall, the G-36 has a very reliable basic system. It is ergonomic, compact (version depending), and simple to keep running. It works great in multiple barrel lengths, both suppressed and un suppressed. It is not ammo sensitive and it doesn't require constant lube/clean/lube. Get some decent rails, add a robust optic mount/rail on top, get the heat issue fixed...and it's a good system. The K version in 300 Black would be a solid PDW. That whole not holding zero due the heat issues of the trunion melting the surrounding polymer... 
There are far better firearms currently in production, why put lipstick on a pig?
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