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So how much do they spend on these operations, how many peoples lives do they mess up? What is the use? While I'm not a huge fan of stings, how would you like having dope fiends walking up and down the streets of your neighborhood, looking to trade tricks for drugs? |
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Quoted: A sure way to beat the cops on prostitution stings is don't go picking up hookers. But...but... it's "hookers and blow" not "Women of high moral standards and blow" Damn, man. Must you ruin all arfcoms fun? |
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All you have to do is ask them if they are cops. If they lie then it"s entrapment. You have to ask them 3 times. If they say no all three times you are good to go.. Then we get transported back to Kansas.... |
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So how much do they spend on these operations, how many peoples lives do they mess up? What is the use? While I'm not a huge fan of stings, how would you like having dope fiends walking up and down the streets of your neighborhood, looking to trade tricks for drugs? How many of these are done in the areas with the dopefiends compared to places where they have better chances of busting people with something worth taking? Why dont they go after the ones selling instead of trapping people |
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That would also be considered soliciting a lewd act, IMHO. My money is on THIS. |
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The way to get around a cop is to ask her if she will have a cup of coffee with you for $50.
A cop will say no or beat it, a hooker could care less what you want. |
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All you have to do is ask them if they are cops. If they lie then it"s entrapment. You have to ask them 3 times. If they say no all three times you are good to go.. Then we get transported back to Kansas.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxZQL_Is0mE#t=1m15s |
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It's great that taxpayer money is spent trying to keep women (or men) from selling their bodies of their own free will.
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If they are hot then they are cops. Nuf said. this never trust a hot hooker - example: acorn |
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A sure way to beat the cops on prostitution stings is don't go picking up hookers. Your logic eludes me. |
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Quoted: Guy I worked with on the road got busted in Orlando soliciting a cop. With his wife waited for him to get off work at the hotel. Part of the judgement against him was he had to have a (court supervised) meeting with his wife where he explained why he had been arrested. Fuck them right in the ass. Cops are the last people that need to be dealing with "morals" enforcement. |
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LMAO! He's not looking at the map! |
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The way to get around a cop is to ask her if she will have a cup of coffee with you for $50. A cop will say no or beat it, a hooker could care less what you want. How's that been working out for ya? |
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I saw a cop program where the cops were busting hookers. They set up a hotel room and invited hookers/escort girls over. The cops were talking about how they would get completely bare before busting the hooker.
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Relatively Recently in sandy springs there was an incident of a male cop actually getting in trouble for letting a girl go down on him for a few minutes before busting her . Even if you ultimately escape the conviction you'll still have your reputation dragged through the mud and spend time and money in the legal process. As far as the world of recreational substances cops can and will smoke weed with you, they'll do lines of coke with you to get your trust and get to your supplier and then to his supplier. Never underestimate the lengths the police will go through to bust you. If they'll do a line of coke with you then they'll show you their boobies if they really want you. Especially if it means they get to confiscate your car because you solicited a prostitute from it. Things to think about. PS: Don't hire hookers. YOU sound like an attorney..........YES they will use illegal drugs with you and then bust you. |
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Since watchin cops im nervous as fuck each time i follow a hooker into a room...i get all twitchy and dare i say it..blade at 45 degrees...
But the relief to discover there isnt a bunch of huge cops jumping me..well....just makes the sex better.... |
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YOU sound like an attorney. Thanks. I'm actually just a criminal mastermind. |
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There was a sting where local PD in a city park sent out a female officer topless. She told some guy to show her his penis, he of course did, and was promptly picked up by the cops. Apparently being topless was legal, but not bottomless, and they had some problem with people exposing their nether regions.
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The way to get around a cop is to ask her if she will have a cup of coffee with you for $50. A cop will say no or beat it, a hooker could care less what you want. How's that been working out for ya? I have a caffeine headache |
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About half the 'sting' videos I see look like entrapment to me. If I were on the jury, I'd vote not guilty. almost as bad as seizing someone's car for buy $5 worth of pot. It can't be entrapment if the 'target' has shown he is predisposed to commit the crime he was 'stung' for... Let me introduce you to something called "jury nullification", the law is what the jury (actually a single member of the jury) says it is, not you, not the police, not even the judge. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: About half the 'sting' videos I see look like entrapment to me. If I were on the jury, I'd vote not guilty. almost as bad as seizing someone's car for buy $5 worth of pot. It can't be entrapment if the 'target' has shown he is predisposed to commit the crime he was 'stung' for... Let me introduce you to something called "jury nullification", the law is what the jury (actually a single member of the jury) says it is, not you, not the police, not even the judge. Pack a lunch... |
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The way to get around a cop is to ask her if she will have a cup of coffee with you for $50. A cop will say no or beat it, a hooker could care less what you want. How's that been working out for ya? I have a caffeine headache I'm trying not to wake my wife up by laughing so hard!! |
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Let me introduce you to something called "jury nullification", the law is what the jury (actually a single member of the jury) says it is, not you, not the police, not even the judge. You will never be allowed on a jury if you mention jury nullification. Also, I believe it's contempt of court if you tell other jurors about nullification, or if you are a lawyer and inform the jury of the concept. |
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At that point, you are already screwed. But worth a try. I mean, next time I'm talking to a hooker, I'll ask her for you.
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I guess vice cops don't have anything better to do than bust guys who want their part of the "oldest job in the world". Way to take those criminals off the streets!
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Yeah, you don't know too many female cops, do ya? The term good looking would be more of a relative term in many cases. The part of town I work in has a lot working girls up and down Jeff Davis Hwy at night. I've had to ride out at night to refuel work trucks and when feeling brave, make a Taco Bell run on the back half of evening shift or the front half of graveyard shift. From what I've seen on Jeff Davis, most of the girls look like they've been on meth for the last 20 yrs and the rest I don't think really were girls. So, a good looking or even just a clean looking girl should just been screaming undercover cop. Personally, I think Richmond PD would do better to dress male officers in drag for Jeff Davis Hwy stings. It might make them blend in better. Also, I've noticed on Cops, they tend to use better looking offices for the stings on a lot of episodes. I wonder if they are betting on the other guy thinking with the wrong head anyways. Also, wouldn't be so quick to down the looks of female officers. Back when I was splitting rent on a house with my sister and her husband. He was emptying a .22lr rifle that he had left loaded since before he left for Iraq. He had a ND and put a round through the wall and into the neighbor's wall. One of the female officers that responded was damn good looking. I however was engaged at the time (now married) so it didnt' really matter. |
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Why not ask if they want to be in a porno and then just film the sex? Great defense. |
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A sure way to beat the cops on prostitution stings is don't go picking up hookers. what about forced blood draws for DUI? |
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Guy I worked with on the road got busted in Orlando soliciting a cop. With his wife waited for him to get off work at the hotel. Part of the judgement against him was he had to have a (court supervised) meeting with his wife where he explained why he had been arrested. How did that turn out for him? |
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So how much do they spend on these operations, how many peoples lives do they mess up? What is the use? While I'm not a huge fan of stings, how would you like having dope fiends walking up and down the streets of your neighborhood, looking to trade tricks for drugs? How many of these are done in the areas with the dopefiends compared to places where they have better chances of busting people with something worth taking? Why dont they go after the ones selling instead of trapping people Here in might part of VA, those are the main spots you hear of the stings. Jeff Davis Hwy on the southside of richmond, boarding Chesterfield County, isn't exactly the high end side of town. Actually, its becoming the Little Mexico district, which a pretty bad crime rate as you are hearing more and more of the Stop and Robs being hit. |
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Not real: no such thing as a 27th precinct in NYC. |
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Oh, and before people rage too much about entrapment and victimless crime:
It isn't, and it isn't. If it were legalized, then that would be great, but since it's all (barring a few places in the U.S) underground, there are plenty of slaves in that line of work. No shit slaves, both from out of country and runaways from other states. Our vice guys (all 5 of them) deal with it all the time. |
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Oh, and before people rage too much about entrapment and victimless crime: It isn't, and it isn't. If it were legalized, then that would be great, but since it's all (barring a few places in the U.S) underground, there are plenty of slaves in that line of work. No shit slaves, both from out of country and runaways from other states. Our vice guys (all 5 of them) deal with it all the time. I don't think so. Most of those girls are out there like Julia Roberts and Jamie Lee Curtis. They are just taking the easy way to retirement. Those that are not in it for the money just like having sex. I mean, you expect me to beleive that the hookers out there flag down a dude who just happened to be driving down the street at o-dark-thirty and happened to see a damsel in distress waving to him, so they can blow or bang them real quick, get 20-40 bucks for the trick then walk directly to the nearest crack house, buy a couple rocks, smoke them; then go right back out so the can "make more money" so they can get high again???? No sir Mr. Josey Wales.... |
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Quoted: If they are hot then they are cops. Nuf said. The best response so far. The only reason any of the hookers in our town got action is because the one eye down there is blind. |
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Tell them you need emergency medical assistance. A hooker would leave, a cop would help.
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Relatively Recently in sandy springs there was an incident of a male cop actually getting in trouble for letting a girl go down on him for a few minutes before busting her . Even if you ultimately escape the conviction you'll still have your reputation dragged through the mud and spend time and money in the legal process. As far as the world of recreational substances cops can and will smoke weed with you, they'll do lines of coke with you to get your trust and get to your supplier and then to his supplier. Never underestimate the lengths the police will go through to bust you. If they'll do a line of coke with you then they'll show you their boobies if they really want you. Especially if it means they get to confiscate your car because you solicited a prostitute from it. Things to think about. PS: Don't hire hookers. Boobies!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNDlf6hA6TY Sorry, couldn't resist. Became an overused joke with my girlfriend. |
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A sure way to beat the cops on prostitution stings is don't go picking up hookers. that makes as much sense as not drinking and driving, clearly not the kind of advice the guys that go to whores are liable to pay aattention to. |
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Guy I worked with on the road got busted in Orlando soliciting a cop. With his wife waited for him to get off work at the hotel. Part of the judgement against him was he had to have a (court supervised) meeting with his wife where he explained why he had been arrested. Doesn't that violate the 8th amendment? |
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Guy I worked with on the road got busted in Orlando soliciting a cop. With his wife waited for him to get off work at the hotel. Part of the judgement against him was he had to have a (court supervised) meeting with his wife where he explained why he had been arrested. Doesn't that violate the 8th amendment? Quoted from Wikipedia:The Eighth Amendment (Amendment VIII) to the United States Constitution is the part of the United States Bill of Rights which prohibits the federal government from imposing excessive bail, excessive fines or cruel and unusual punishments. So as long as they aren't Feds, they're cool |
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Guy I worked with on the road got busted in Orlando soliciting a cop. With his wife waited for him to get off work at the hotel. Part of the judgement against him was he had to have a (court supervised) meeting with his wife where he explained why he had been arrested. Doesn't that violate the 8th amendment? Quoted from Wikipedia:The Eighth Amendment (Amendment VIII) to the United States Constitution is the part of the United States Bill of Rights which prohibits the federal government from imposing excessive bail, excessive fines or cruel and unusual punishments. So as long as they aren't Feds, they're cool The 8th hasn't been incorporated? |
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Guy I worked with on the road got busted in Orlando soliciting a cop. With his wife waited for him to get off work at the hotel. Part of the judgement against him was he had to have a (court supervised) meeting with his wife where he explained why he had been arrested. Doesn't that violate the 8th amendment? Quoted from Wikipedia:The Eighth Amendment (Amendment VIII) to the United States Constitution is the part of the United States Bill of Rights which prohibits the federal government from imposing excessive bail, excessive fines or cruel and unusual punishments. So as long as they aren't Feds, they're cool The 8th hasn't been incorporated? It has been. |
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Quoted: I was watching an episode of "Cops" and they were busting male prostitutes. The only guy they let go asked for a kiss first thing in the car. This may work for you. I know what one you are talking about. Aired in 1989 with the LA County Sheriff's office. |
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I've seen the prositutes on COPs as the under cover Johns to touch their boobs or cooch to prove they weren't cops. Maybe ask the cop lady to go on a real date to a movie or dinner, and say you will pay them but not for sex and see what they say.
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So I was watching Cops and they were busting these guys for soliciting sex from an undercover female police officer. Wouldn't a sure fire way to make sure she wasn't a cop be to ask her to flash you? I could be wrong but I wouldn't imagine a female cop would be inclined to show her breasts in public. A few years ago on cops a guy asked the undercover for a kiss on the mouth as a sign of "friendship" The officer declined and the guy said have a good night, see ya. It was a male prostitute sting operation. There was no way in hell the male officer was going to french kiss some dude. The same for a female officer, she's not going to kiss the target. On a side note I read an article that was based on the requested kiss and the town cops were pissed because they said it would give every "john" the tool to beat the sting operations. My buddy used to frequent street hookers in Atlantic City when he was drunk and winning (yeah i know , insane) He use to ask for a kiss all the time before any talk of money, he said none ever refused. |
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Looks like you get paid pretty well to appear on COPS
Riverside county settles ex-sheriff sergeant's lawsuit for $125,000 18 Sept 2009 Riverside County has settled a lawsuit with a retired sheriff's sergeant who says deputies illegally handcuffed, beat and detained him at his home while a crew with the television show "COPS" filmed it.
The county agreed this week to pay Salvador Piña and his family $125,000 to resolve a federal civil rights lawsuit, Piña's attorney Gerald Singleton said. Riverside County sheriff's deputies held Piña for more than seven hours during a homicide investigation, even after former colleagues recognized him, and a sheriff's technician indicated it was the wrong address, the lawsuit said. Piña was never charged in the case, and several months later, authorities arrested a suspect who had fled to Mexico, records show. In court documents, the county denied virtually all of the lawsuit's allegations. Officers had probable cause to detain Piña, did not use excessive force and did not in any way violate his rights, the county's response said. The county's lawyer, Bruce Disenhouse, confirmed that the Board of Supervisors OK'd a settlement of the lawsuit on Tuesday. Disenhouse, Undersheriff Valerie Hill and other county officials declined to comment further, saying some paperwork still remains before the settlement is official. Piña and his family did not respond to a request for comment. But Singleton said they have approved the settlement, which he called a "vindication." "This will give them closure," he said. "I don't want to say the incident shattered their world view, but it was not something they ever thought could happen to them." The Allegations Piña, 56, of La Quinta, who worked for the Riverside County Sheriff's Department and homicide bureau for more than 30 years, filed the lawsuit Jan. 15, 2008. He alleged civil rights violations, assault, slander, trespassing and negligence and sought damages for himself, his wife and his three children. On May 5, 2007, Piña returned home from his daughter's birthday party about 11 p.m., the suit said. Soon after, two sheriff's deputies and a television camera crew arrived on his property. The deputies said they would detain him and search his home. They would not tell him why, only that they were investigating a "high intensity crime," Piña contends in the suit. When Piña persisted in asking for cause, one deputy tried to use a wrist lock to restrain him. The other pulled out pepper spray and said he was going to hit Piña with his baton, according to the suit. Afraid he would be severely injured, Piña got on his knees and told the deputies they could handcuff him. The deputy with the pepper spray slammed Piña into a wall and assaulted him, the suit alleges. Piña says he was not resisting and was complying with orders. The "COPS" cameramen filmed the entire encounter as possible footage for an episode even though Piña asked them to leave and never gave them permission to come on to his property, the suit says. Langley Productions in Santa Monica, which produces the long-running reality series, did not return calls for comment. The company never aired the footage and told the court it had destroyed it, Singleton said. Wrong House Deputies were responding that night to the fatal shooting of 26-year-old Thomas Duncan at a house one street over from the street where the Piñas live, according to sheriff's records. Duncan, of Indio, reportedly died at a home on Eisenhower Drive at about 11:20 p.m.. Authorities initially believed the shots had come from an adjacent house on Avenida Velasco. But they went to the wrong house on that street, the suit says. Piña's home does not border the house where the slaying occurred. About midway through Piña's detention, a lab technician on the scene informed homicide investigators that the house did not match the description given officers; the neighboring house was the wrong color, Piña alleges. But officers continued to detain Piña for several more hours. When Piña's son returned home from his high school prom and other family members returned from the birthday party, they found Piña detained and handcuffed outside the home. The officers would not let any of the family in the house, which they had searched without a warrant and without Piña's consent, the suit says. Piña alleges that members of the Sheriff's Department later told the Fantasy Springs Resort Hotel and Casino, where Piña worked as public safety director, false information that Piña was a murder suspect and that everyone at the station believed Piña had abetted his son in committing the May 5 murder. As a result, the Cabazon Band of Mission Indians, which runs the casino, suspended and later fired Piña, the suit says. Piña and his son were never charged with anything in the Duncan case, according to county court records. In October 2008, authorities arrested a one-eyed gang member named Jaime "Smokey" Lopez as he re-entered the United States from Mexico and charged him with the killing, according to the Riverside County district attorney's office. Lopez is awaiting trial. What happened This week's settlement means a jury will not pass judgment on exactly what occurred May 5 at Piña's home. County officials would not provide the county's account of the events of that night for this report. The county's response in court records is general and does not address details of the incident. The Sheriff's Department declined to release reports on the encounter, saying they are part of an ongoing homicide trial. Court records for the murder case show authorities have sealed the Lopez arrest documents on the grounds that confidentiality is needed to protect the case and/or any informants. County officials said they would like to respond to Piña's account, but the settlement has not been finalized. Hill said the law did not permit her to discuss whether any disciplinary actions have been taken against any officers. The suit names former Sheriff Bob Doyle and about a dozen sheriff's employees in addition to naming the county and the Sheriff's Department. Records show that all of the employees, except Doyle, continue to work for the county. Doyle resigned in 2007 to accept a gubernatorial appointment to the state parole board. Piña's lawyer said the settlement shows the importance of good police training and of laws that protect citizens against abuses. "If it can happen to a 30-year veteran with the homicide bureau with a sterling record, it can happen to anybody," Singleton said. $17,857 a hour sounds about fair. |
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"Hey I'm pretty sure i met you at a party last month. I borrowed $200 from you, but I haven't seen you since to pay it back. Well, here it is. By the way, want to fuck?"
That's the way you beat the cops. |
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That would also be considered soliciting a lewd act, IMHO. Not in Ohio. Female bare-chest has been approved by the State Supreme Court. |
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It shouldn't be illegal in the first place.
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Oh, and before people rage too much about entrapment and victimless crime: It isn't, and it isn't. If it were legalized, then that would be great, but since it's all (barring a few places in the U.S) underground, there are plenty of slaves in that line of work. No shit slaves, both from out of country and runaways from other states. Our vice guys (all 5 of them) deal with it all the time. Sounds like the law is causing these El Salvadoran girls' problems, eh? |
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