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The hate that I have for them is directly attributable to their actions.  When 'moderate' Islam stands up and wages Jihad against 'radical' Islam and wins, I might change my opinion.

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Why should we, when the "peaceful" muslims themselves don't even try to differentiate or distinguish themselves from the the hordes of ultra-violent muslims?  When was the last time you turned on the news or opened the paper, and saw a story about your local muslim group denouncing and criticizing the latest suicide bomber or terrorist attack?    

Answer:  NEVER.  
WHY IS THAT?

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as I said in another thread I believe it has become the new "cool kid badge" to defend Islam and snort derision at those who don't.

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And anyone who would want to be a part of that political movement/religion peaceful or not should be heavily scrutinized. At its very best its a second century oppressive cult that irrefutably calls for subjugation or death for non-believers as its core principle, not some ancillary vestige that rational people are just inventing out of thin air.

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B. The statement in red is genuinely retarded. Iran refines Uranium, you are refining stupid all the way to weapons grade.

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Oh good. Another I "heart" hadji thread.

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Yup, I try not to hate or dislike any type of person. I let their individual actions speak for themselves because each individual has a free will and no man is alike. However on the other hand I haven't seen an actualy group of muslims come out condemning what the radicals are doing.

This page focuses on condemnations of the 9/11 terrorist attacks and other terrorist incidents since then as well as of terrorism in general. It is not a complete listing of all condemnations written or spoken by Muslims but is intended to provide a representative sample.

It has often been claimed in the media that Muslims are "silent" and do not condemn terrorism. This page is intended to refute that claim. Muslims have not been silent. Not even close. See also How American Muslims Really Responded to September 11 for more information about the Muslim response to 9/11. And another listing is at Statements Against Terror. Also Muslim Voices Against Terrorism. Related commentary at Friedman Wrong About Muslims Again , by Juan Cole and The Myth of Muslim Condemnation of Terror by Ali Eteraz.



Muslim Leaders

A Message from the Council on American-Islamic Relations

American Muslim Leaders Condemn Attacks

American Muslims Denouncing Terrorism

American Muslims and Scholars Denounce Terrorism on Anniversary of 9/11

Australian Muslims Condemn Terrorist Attack

Bin Laden Distorts Islam, Islamic Scholars Say

Bin Laden's Idea of 'Jihad' is Out of Bounds, Islamic Scholars Say

British Muslim leaders condemn terrorism

British Muslims Condemn Terrorist Attacks

Canadian Muslims Condemn Terorist Attacks

Islamic Statements Against Terrorism in the Wake of the September 11 Mass Murders

Islamic World Deplores U.S. Losses

Looking for Answers in Islam's Holy Book: What Islamic Scholars Have to Say

Muslim Reactions to Sept 11

Muslim Voices Against Extremism & Terrorism - Part II - Statements by Organizations

Muslim World Condemns Attacks on U.S.

Muslim rulers condemn WTC attacks

New Zealand Muslims Condemn Terrorism

Organization of the Islamic Conference Foreign Ministers Condemn International Terrorism

Quran a Book of Peace Not War, Islamic Scholars Say

Scholars of Islam Condemn Terrorism

Some American Muslims Take a Look at Their Communities' Shortcomings

U.S. Muslim Scholars Condemn Attacks

UK Muslim Leaders Condemn 'Lunatic Fringe'

When is jihad OK? Muslim Perspectives



Specific Muslim Scholars

A Common Word Between Us and You, by 130 Islamic scholars

Attacks on Civilians: Forbidden by Islam, by Shaykh Yusuf Qaradawi

Ayatollah Muhammad Husain Fadlallah of Lebanon condemns Osama Bin Laden, by Ayatollah Muhammad Husain Fadlallah

Bin Laden's Violence is a Heresy Against Islam, by AbdulHakim Murad (Tim Winter)

Defending the Civilians (a fatwa against terrorism), by Shaykh Muhammad Afifi al-Akiti

Expert Says Islam Prohibits Violence Against Innocents, by Shaykh Hamza Yusuf

Grand Sheikh of al-Azhar Condemns Suicide Bombings, by Shaykh Muhammad Sayyed Tantawi

High Mufti of Russian Muslims calls for Extradition of Bin Laden, by Russian Muslim leaders

Iran's Supreme Leader Condemns Attacks on U.S., by Ayatollah Ali Khamanei

Islam and the Question of Violence, by Seyyed Hossein Nasr, Iranian scholar

Jihad and the Modern World, by Dr. Sherman Jackson

Jihad: Its True Meaning and Purpose, by Muzammil H. Siddiqui

Most Prominent Sunni Muslim Scholar Condemns Killing of Civilians, by Shaykh Muhammad Sayyed Tantawi, Grand Imam of Al-Azhar University

Muslim Attitudes about Violence, by Shaykh Muhammad al-Munajjid

Muslim Voices Against Extremism and Terrorism - Part I - Fatwas, by various scholars

Muslim Voices Against Extremism and Terrorism - Part IV A few Quotes, by various scholars

On the Terrorist Attacks, by Imam Zaid Shakir

Prominent Pakistani Cleric Tahir ul Qadri condemns Bin Laden, by Tahir ul Qadri

Reclaiming Islam from the Terrorists, by AbdulHakim Murad, British scholar

Reflections on the National Horror of September 11, 2001, by Muzammil H. Siddiqui

Refutation of Bin Laden's Defense of Terrorism, by Moiz Amjad, Pakistani scholar

Response to a Question about Islam and Terrorism, by Moiz Amjad, Pakistani scholar

Saudi Clerics Condemn Terrorism, by Sheikh Abderrahman al-Sudayes

Saudi Grand Mufti Condemns Terrorist Attacks in U.S., by Shaikh Abdulaziz Al-Ashaikh

Scholars' Statements Regarding The Attacks In The United States, by Shaykh Abdul-Aziz Aali-Shaykh, Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia and President of the Committee of Senior Scholars, and Shaykh Saleh Al-Lehaydaan, Chief Justice Of The Saudi Arabian Judiciary, and Shaykh Dr. Saaleh Ibn Ghaanem As-Sadlaan, Pres. Higher Studies Dept. Al-Imaam Muhammd Ibn Saud Islamic University

Spanish Muslim Clerical authorities Issue Fatwa against Osamah Bin Laden, by Spanish Muslim leaders

Terrorism Is at Odds With Islamic Tradition, by Khaled Abou El Fadl

Terrorism: Not a doorway to heaven, by Jamil Abdul Razzak Hajoo, of Idriss Mosque, Seattle

The Myth of Islamic Terrorism Exploded, by Shaykh Abdul Azeez bin Abdullah bin Baaz and Shaykh Muhammad Bin Saalih al Uthaymeen

The worst enemies of Islam are from within, by Hamza Yusuf

Top Saudi Cleric Says Attacks on U.S. a Terrible Crime in Islam, by Shaykh Salah al-Lahidan, head of the Islamic Judiciary of Saudi Arabia

Violence Against Innocents Violates Islamic Law, by Imam Siraj Wahhaj

What is jihad? What is terrorism?, by Statement by Muslim scholars

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I would be just fine if GD regularly distinguished radical Islam from true Islam I wasn't so busy trying to stir shit.

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there's a difference between defending Islam and LOL'ing at those who think a few Muslims are a credible threat to the American way of life.

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It has. Numerous clerics have declared jihad on terrorists, they have called for peace but you know what?  We have millions of renecks rolling around with "everything I learned about Islam I learned on 9/11" who revel in their ignorance. Look what happens whe a story gets posted here about any kind of violence and it goes 10 pages of "RoP" before the facts come out. If it turns out to be a white guy in a plane then they find something else to talk about. When a story gets posted about a muslim cleric or organization standing up and denouncing terrorists and those who support then it gets buried in about 5 minutes because 99% of the people here don't want to believe in peacefull muslims.

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i don't really care who or what a man worships. so long as he leaves me alone.

i do care that day after day iread about attrocities commited by radical followers of islam. attrocities that tend to kill a lot of people around them. You will have to forgive me if i don't care to associate with them and prefer to keep my eyes open if they are around.

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I may understand this incorrectly but the basic statement of "I do not think a few Muslims are credible threat to the American way of life" Is idiotic at best. A few Muslims have already done just that.

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Jihad is war.  I don't see a holy war being waged against the Islamists.  There is only one true jihad being waged in Islam and it is by the Islamists.  They are clearly winning too.  You further insult the 'millions of rednecks' who hate Islam (for very good reasons) without even beginning to acknowledge that there are a hundred million plus Muslims who look at OBL like we look at Reagan...

As for standing up...  Words.  Empty words.  Like the UN they are intellectually dishonest and weak because their actions do not match their words.  True Jihad against the 'radicals' would be evidenced by mass assasinations of radical clerics by moderate muslims, bombings of extremist safehouses, beheadings of captured radicals (as called for by the Koran), extreme villification of madrassas and Islamism, pro US (American muslim) jihad groups waging war against all anti US jihadi groups.  You would see absolutely record numbers of American Muslims joining the US armed forces.  This is not happening though.  Instead we get hollow words from them.  

Basically, we don't need peaceful Muslims.  We need American Muslims to fight for what they espouse en masse.  Fewer Ghadani's and more Shughart and Gordon types who will walk the walk.  We have an estimated 5-7 million US Muslims (supposedly moderates for the most part) to draw from.  Why is it that a huge ground swell of support from the Muslim community has not been forthcoming?   Instead the US has to rely on 'millions of rednecks' to fight the 'radical Muslims'.  Go figure.

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I'd post a list of Islamic terrorist acts against Christians and Jews in the last 10 years, but I'm sure the mods would be pissed, it's over 2000 items long.  And that's just the last 10 years and only against Christians and Jews.  Expand it to Islamic inspired terrorists acts against everyone and it becomes much, much larger since they're as likely to attack another sect of Islam as they are anyone else.

Exactly how much history do we need to make a determination on Islam and it's practitioners?  

Of course now is the time when you'll chime in and remind me of Christianity's bloody history.  Before you do that please show me the list of Christian inspired terrorism in the last 10 years.

Where there's smoke there's fire, and Islam has well earned it's horrific reputation.

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I may understand this incorrectly but the basic statement of "I do not think a few Muslims are credible threat to the American way of life" Is idiotic at best. A few Muslims have already done just that.

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I would be just fine if GD regularly distinguished radical Islam from true Islam.