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Link Posted: 4/1/2002 5:10:28 PM EDT
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And it is also the reason why over 90% of the child abuse cases that we have been reading about in the Catholic Priesthood have been committed by homosexuals.
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Belloc keeps blathering on about these incidents of molested children, but he keeps glossing over one important fact - 100% of these molesters were Catholic Priests!!!!  That's right, Belloc - the same religion as you!!!  You worship the same God and read the same Bible, say the same prayers and sing the same songs.

You're accusing me of being a homo, but I don't go to church - you do!!!!  I think you may be a child molester.  I mean, why would you spend time every week at an institution that is known to breed and harbor homosexual child molesters?

Personally, I avoid those places like the plague!!  But Belloc really seems to like it there.  Hmmmm.......
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Actually, they were depraved evil faggots posing as catholic priests.
Link Posted: 4/1/2002 7:18:37 PM EDT
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Actually, they were depraved evil faggots posing as catholic priests.
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Sorry, AlClenin, but nobody was "posing" as anything.  They weren't imposters.  These are actual Priests!  They graduated from the seminary and were legitimately ordained by the Catholic Church.

There's your precious religion for you.  I wonder they learned how to molest children while in the seminary or they picked it up on the job.  Either way the archdiocese knew about their activities and not only failed to stop them but actually facilitated their molesting by harboring and protecting them, then moving the molesters to new parishes that were ripe with new, young boys waiting to be victimized. This went on for decades in some cases.

These are the people you look to for moral guidance?  HA HA!!!!!
Link Posted: 4/1/2002 7:23:03 PM EDT
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[b]Belloc keeps blathering on about these incidents of molested children, but he keeps glossing over one important fact - 100% of these molesters were Catholic Priests!!!!  That's right, Belloc - the same religion as you!!!  You worship the same God and read the same Bible, say the same prayers and sing the same songs.[/b]
Yes, well, you seem to be glossing over the fact that of the 44,000 or so Priests, about 3-4 percent seem to have committed the crime of child molestation. What only a few conservative press outlets have reported is that 3 or 4 percent of non Priests, i.e. the general population are guilty of the same evil. So you cannot deny that it is true that while some molesters were priests, it would seem (until proven otherwise) that all the Priests who did the molestation were homosexuals. The spokesperson for the Pope said last week however, that in fact theologically speaking it is questionable as to whether or not someone with the mental disease of having a desire to sodomize other men or boys can receive the sacrament of ordination. Just as a marriage would be annulled (no marriage ever took place) if one party was later shown to not be fully mentally healthy. This is mirrored in common law as those who are mentally ill may not always be held accountable for their actions.  
So while a mentally ill person cannot legitimately receive the sacrament of marriage so also the person cannot receive the sacrament of ordination. You can say the words, but you can say the words over a couple of tree stumps also, it does not mean that the tree stumps are married or that they are Priests.


[b]You're accusing me of being a homo, but I don't go to church - you do!!!!  I think you may be a child molester.  I mean, why would you spend time every week at an institution that is known to breed and harbor homosexual child molesters?[/b]
See, even you equate homosexuals with child molestation.

[b]Personally, I avoid those places like the plague!![/b]
You're right, by all means homosexuals should be avoided like the plague. Thanks for the advice.
Link Posted: 4/1/2002 7:37:43 PM EDT
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Actually, they were depraved evil faggots posing as catholic priests.
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Sorry, AlClenin, but nobody was "posing" as anything.  They weren't imposters.  These are actual Priests!  They graduated from the seminary and were legitimately ordained by the Catholic Church.

There's your precious religion for you.  I wonder they learned how to molest children while in the seminary or they picked it up on the job.  Either way the archdiocese knew about their activities and not only failed to stop them but actually facilitated their molesting by harboring and protecting them, then moving the molesters to new parishes that were ripe with new, young boys waiting to be victimized. This went on for decades in some cases.

These are the people you look to for moral guidance?  HA HA!!!!!
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I am 100% certain that despite graduating from seminary and being ordained by the church they were  not men of God. It is a spiritual thing.

You're making the same mistake that happens in the cop bashing thread, several bad priests = all priests are bad. This is just like the several bad cops = all cops bad. it doesn't work that way.

It's like saying Socrates was a queer, Socrates was a man, therefore all men are queer. Doesn't fly does it?

I'm not Catholic. I don't need anyone to act as a go-between for me and God. I don't look to the Catholic Church for moral guidance.





Link Posted: 4/1/2002 7:48:37 PM EDT
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you guys spend way too much time worrying about homosexuals. you can't catch it, and they're really not interested in recruiting your kids.
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yes, they DO in fact want to "recruit" our children. This is why they are fighting so hard to be Scout Masters. This is why they are fighting so hard to adopt children. This is why they are fighting so hard to teach this filth to school children. This is why they put out garbage like this: [url]www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=\Culture\archive\200203\CUL20020325a.html[/url]
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Uhhh... "Homosexual Music For Kids"?!

This MUST be seen to be believed!!

[b]Not recruiting our kids?![/b]  This is the modern-day "Nazi Youth Organization". TOTAL BRAINWASHING!!
Song list samples:
"Double Daddy"
"Oh what a mess, Billy's wearing a dress"
It's intended listeners are ages 4-10.

"There are four or five songs that have clear and distinct messages about sexuality and refer to gay parents or [b]refer to children who may be gay[/b]."

"[the creator of the music] sent free copies of her CD to approximately 30 gay-friendly public schools across the country..."

"I'd be happy to do anything related to kids and sexuality,"



Holy Jesus, our nation IS Sodom & Gomorrah. We are there. God help us and our kids.

Link Posted: 4/1/2002 8:45:45 PM EDT
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Hmm...

Interesting that priest school is called a seminary.

Awfully close to SEMENary, don't you think?

Or INseminary?  As in, "inseminate"????
 [img]http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/tdo13.gif[/img]

[:D]

 [img]http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/ymca.gif[/img][sex][img]http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/Reverend.gif[/img]


I'm glad I'm not catholic or I'd look like this now:
 [img]http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/anon.gif[/img]

I couldn't bear to show my face in public.
So I'd show my [moon] instead.

CJ

Link Posted: 4/1/2002 8:51:45 PM EDT
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Look, I just gotta do this...

Q - What do you call a bouncer in a gay bar?
A - Flame Thrower

Pederastia - Fun for the whole family...

Sorry, just had to do that for a moment.  Now on to more serious situations...

Gays - tolerated but not condoned.  I believe I mentioned that on another thread elsewhere.  I can handle them as long as they are not trying to force their agenda on me.  I am not especially religious in any conventional sense (I am, in fact, a mild-manndered Agnostic,) but that does not mean that I can or cannot think that homosexuality is wrong.  I think it is wrong.  I don't want to hear about it, I don't care for it, I'm not curious about it, and I don't like when they have the annual "Fag Show" in San Francisco every year, because there ALWAYS seems to be something I have to take care of right then and the whole damn city is nearly shut down!

Equal rights?  Then why was the fellow in WI (IIRC) denied a permit for a parade on the theme "It's great to be straight?"  Riddle me that!

Gays individually I can handle - USUALLY.  My wife has several friends who are gay, and are rather quiet about it.  I can deal with that - I  only have issue with (as her gay hairdresser puts it) "those over-the-top limp-wristed campy-assed FAGS" who want to push everything about themselves upon us.  I barely get interested enough to get sick over it.

Remember ACT UP?  I have been to restaurants that were losing business over them - they'd go in, and announce their "deviation" in the middle of dinner.  People would get up and leave.

As far as the "gay pederast" angle - why is there an organisation called NAMBLA?  Why are they trying to convince us that homosexual pederastia is normal and to be encouraged?

More to the point - why haven't we taken them out yet?

I offer this compromise - if you want to be gay, do it.  Do it quietly, and for the love of God, STOP glory-holing everything you can find!  If straight people can form lifelong relationships, I don't see why gays should be so dysfunctional as to not do the same!  It is not simply homosexuality that spreads AIDS, is is PROMISCUOUS homosexuality that spreads AIDS.  Just like multiple-partner heteros spread clap, drip, Chlamydia, and a few others.

For homosexual child molesters - this is a crime of victimisation (like rape) only far more insidious.  Anyone care to tell my why this isn't a capital crime yet?  Hell, why isn't RAPE (in any form!) a capital crime yet?



FFZ
Link Posted: 4/1/2002 9:00:30 PM EDT
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[b]Interesting that priest school is called a seminary.[/b]
Yes, well, "that minister school" is called a seminary also.

[b]I'm glad I'm not catholic or I'd look like this now:[/b]
Well you are a member of the general public and the same percentage of the general public abuse children as Priests or Ministers or Rabbis. So being a member of that awful "general public" that molests children I guess you will be wearing that bag everytime you go out in public.

The controversy is not that a bunch of filthy homosexuals in the Priesthood sexually assaulted a bunch of teenage boys, it is instead that the liberal, socialists American Catholic Bishops hid and covered it up and "enabled" many of these filthy homosexuals with the ability to abuse hundreds more. The American Catholic Bishops are for all intents and purposes in open revolt against Rome because the Pope says it is impossible for the Church to change it's teaching that homosexual sodomy is intrinsically evil, and that abortion is the murder of unborn children. So they oppose and plot against him. If you want to know how bad it really is:
[url]www.goodbyegoodmen.com[/url]

 
Link Posted: 4/1/2002 9:10:33 PM EDT
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I'm glad I'm not catholic or I'd look like this now:
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I like your logic...

I glad I'm not an Evangelist because of Jimmy Swaggart
I glad I'm not a Buddhist because of the monks paying off Al Gore
I glad I'm not a Moslem because of Usama bin Laden
I glad I'm not an atheist because of MadHatter Murray O'Hair
I glad I'm not a cop because of the Philly cop who shot a kid in the head
I glad I'm not a Naval Officer because of sexual abuse done by Navy personnel
I glad I'm not a Marine because of the Marines who raped a 12-year old girl on Okinawa
I glad I'm not a gun-owner because of all the criminals who own guns

yep, makes sense to me [whacko]


Link Posted: 4/1/2002 9:44:18 PM EDT
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 What consenting adults do in the privacy of their home with other consenting adults is not my business. When they bring it to the political arena telling us that they deserve special laws then that is my business and I think it is wrong. I am not some religious nut and frankly do not attend a church, but I can say that I am able to make up my own mind on what is acceptable behaviour around my kid and when using my tax dollars. I am often surprised how many women seem to have no problem with gay men , but have huge problems with a man watching a playbox tape or the like. If these gay 's are so proud of their lifestyle then make a point of talking about what creepy un-natural things you are doing to each other. I think what they are doing is a crime against nature , and should be a crime in law. This party is nothing to celebrate, there is nothing noble or artistic going on. These people are a sad example of humans gone wrong thru genetics ???  or maybe bad moral judgement.
Link Posted: 4/1/2002 9:49:09 PM EDT
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You're accusing me of being a homo, but I don't go to church - you do!!!!  I think you may be a child molester.  I mean, why would you spend time every week at an institution that is known to breed and harbor homosexual child molesters?

Personally, I avoid those places like the plague!!  But Belloc really seems to like it there.  Hmmmm.......
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You are an idiot.  Ann Coulter agrees.  Read this:  [url]http://www.frontpagemagazine.com/columnists/coulter/2002/ac03-21-02.htm[/url]
Link Posted: 4/1/2002 10:05:59 PM EDT
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Damn crowtrobot, u follow stories about the gay communtity very close i looked all over the web for this couldn't, is this  mr weinstein a gay man or a religous man.

                     All americans citizens shouldn't concern themsevles with others citizens personal lives unless it directly violates anothers citizen's rights, u all here should understand that being gunlover's,i mean do u want others worrying about your right to own guns or your other hobbies.


          Eric phun as for your pat rubbersonrepublic statement mabye u should educate your self on the false reporting by your self and the rest of these postees here, there we're in fact very little in the bible true. Taken from REINHOLD NIEBUHR  and PAUL JOHANNES TILLICH biographies world renowed existentialist theologians and also taken from THE HISTORY CHRISTIANITY 1 AND 2 DVD!!!!

P.S ERIC STRAIGHTASHELL WHO ARE U TRYING TO CONVINCE US OR YOUR SELF..... JK

JK=JUST KIDDING donot want my posts locked or deleted[:D]


 


                 



Link Posted: 4/2/2002 6:01:36 AM EDT
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"Beware of men with neatly trimmed beards."
Link Posted: 4/2/2002 10:44:24 AM EDT
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Damn crowtrobot, u follow stories about the gay communtity very close i looked all over the web for this couldn't, is this  mr weinstein a gay man or a religous man.

                     All americans citizens shouldn't concern themsevles with others citizens personal lives unless it directly violates anothers citizen's rights, u all here should understand that being gunlover's,i mean do u want others worrying about your right to own guns or your other hobbies.


          Eric phun as for your pat rubbersonrepublic statement mabye u should educate your self on the false reporting by your self and the rest of these postees here, there we're in fact very little in the bible true. Taken from REINHOLD NIEBUHR  and PAUL JOHANNES TILLICH biographies world renowed existentialist theologians and also taken from THE HISTORY CHRISTIANITY 1 AND 2 DVD!!!!

P.S ERIC STRAIGHTASHELL WHO ARE U TRYING TO CONVINCE US OR YOUR SELF..... JK

JK=JUST KIDDING donot want my posts locked or deleted[:D]


 


                 



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Is this English?


Edited to add:  Notice that we don't immediately ban people who have differing opinions, unlike your home on the DU.  Freedom of speech is something you socialists rant about, but frequently don't support.
Link Posted: 4/2/2002 11:12:42 AM EDT
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Some of you guys are lacking in the sense of humor department.  You'd think that with all those silly smilies I put in that last post, you 'd have all figured out that my comments were tongue-in-cheek.

I guess I'll have to specify that from now on for the benefit of those who aren't all that quick on the draw.

CJ
Link Posted: 4/2/2002 11:32:13 AM EDT
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I guess I'll have to specify that from now on for the benefit of those who aren't all that quick on the draw.
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What do you mean by that? [>:/]

Link Posted: 4/2/2002 1:33:01 PM EDT
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tongue-in-cheek.
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Um, I'll pretend you didnt say that.
Link Posted: 4/2/2002 2:34:36 PM EDT
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AR15fan, I'm glad YOU caught that, anyway!

CJ

Link Posted: 4/2/2002 2:38:54 PM EDT
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they're really not interested in recruiting your kids.
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To continue to demonstrate how very wrong you are.

[url]http://www.leaderu.com/critical/gay90.html[/url]

Here is an excerpt.


"...Another hesitant columnist, The Washington Post's William Raspberry, had this to say about the gay rights movement, especially as related to the issue of the ban on gays in the military:
I'm guessing that if lifting the ban meant only that homosexual service personnel would no longer have to lie, no one would care very much. But the fear is that something else would change, in unhealthy directions ... There seems to be some larger fear that lurks just beyond our ability to define it--a sense that we may be about to release some deadly cultural genie.
Perhaps Raspberry would recognize a glimpse of that genie in a letter sent to the superintendent at West Point recently by one Clinton volunteer and gay activist.
Lifting the ban is not enough. We intend to sue in federal court as soon as the ban is lifted to ensure compensatory representation in the service academies. In particular, we intend to get a ruling mandating a set number of places for homosexuals in the Air Force Academy, the Naval Academy, and West Point.
In fact, the first few wisps of the cultural genie could be discerned as early as 1972, when more than 200 gay organizations came together to put forth their 12-point "Gay Rights Platform"--one point which was "Federal encouragement and support for pro-homosexual sex education in public schools; prepared and taught by gay men and women, presenting homosexuality as a valid, healthy preference and lifestyle."
Another was "Repeal all laws governing age of consent."


Let's see that one again:
[b]"Repeal all laws governing the age of consent."[/b]
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