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Posted: 6/3/2010 6:59:12 PM EDT

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Twoage

Posted: 6/3/2010 7:10:28 PM EDT

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Twoage

Point to you.

Posted: 6/4/2010 3:55:24 AM EDT

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Yes, Hollywood has been going downhill for years. It's to the point where it's all comic-book movies (yech, hate 'em, as they tend to be light on the plot/background and heavy on gunfire and explosions), and remakes that almost always suck more than the original. Throw in sequels, yech, they're nearly always worse than the original (there are a few exceptions).

Last movies I saw that were worth a damn were the Lord of the Rings trilogy - while they didn't follow the books precisely, they were good stories. The effects were great as well, but the story was emphasized more than flashy CGI.

The Hollywood suits are afraid to take risks, so it's the flood of same same old tired remakes and sequels. They know the sheeple will suck it up, never noticing that they've basically seen the same premise/plot before with different faces. They know if they put enough flashy special effects in there people won't note that the story sucks...they've dumbed down movies such that 8th graders can keep up with them.

Posted: 6/4/2010 3:58:03 AM EDT

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Ironman 2 reminded me a lot of Robocop 2. Shift some stuff around, change some details and it's pretty close.

Crap, crap and more crap.

BTW: They're remaking Robocop. Yay.

How dare you make fun of robocop!

Posted: 6/4/2010 4:01:48 AM EDT

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Well, there was Avatar...

Posted: 6/4/2010 4:02:44 AM EDT

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I would have nothing to argue against.

Posted: 6/4/2010 4:05:46 AM EDT

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Make better products, or go out of business.

Don't worry, 'Madea do laundry' will be out soon.

Posted: 6/4/2010 4:07:05 AM EDT

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Posted: 6/4/2010 4:23:42 AM EDT

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I hear they are thinking of making a movie of the experiences of Marcus Luttrell/Operation Red Wing.
After reading the book twice, I'd really love to see an accurate movie about it. If Hollywood needs plots
involving heros, they need to look no further than our great men and women who serve.

ARKAR

Posted: 6/4/2010 4:30:26 AM EDT

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Prince of Persia was good. Jerry Bruckhiemer knows his action films.

IM2 is supposed to be good, and supports capitalism –– good for something in this day and age.....and though I didn't want to see Robin Hood, after reading this, I may go see it:

http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2010/06/02/robin-hood-and-the-tea-party-haters

I'm sold, I'm going to take my wife this weekend.

If the liberal pigshit anti freedom intelligentia self righteous asshats hate it, it must be good.

Posted: 6/4/2010 4:49:59 AM EDT

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Robin Hood fucking rocked. It was a great movie, and I'll buy it when it comes out on bluray if I can afford it.

Posted: 6/4/2010 4:51:46 AM EDT

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I would love to go to the theater and watch a good movie..........
How about this......"The fall of the messiah"

.........a epic battle of capitalism and socialism. Find out how lies and corruption brings down one of America's Socialist Presidents. A dark time in American history were the Lady Liberty's torch fades, but will not be snuffed out. Watch to see how the basic freedoms in the constitution beat back the regime from within America's borders.

+ 1 million.

Posted: 6/4/2010 4:57:45 AM EDT

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...on the frozen tundra of Antarctica.

There is no tundra in Antarctica.

Posted: 6/4/2010 5:20:39 AM EDT

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Pretty much. I saw Robin Hood last weekend and thought I was watching a Mel Gibson film. It's essentially The Patriot for Brits.

Though saying that films based on novels are "rip offs" is taking it a bit too far. The Searchers and Gone With the Wind are both based on novels, as is Arfcom favorite The Green Berets. What really matters isn't how original the idea is but how well it is adapted - A Fistfull of Dollars is a retelling of Yojimbo which is a retelling of a Daschel Hammet novel. William Smith's character in Red Dawn (the Soviet para Colonel) is based on a character from The Battle of Algiers, as are most of the scenes involving him.

It is true that there are a lot of really, really good foreign films out there. Volver and Tropa de Elite are two that were recommended to me by members on this site and did not disappoint. Another good one is Gomorah, based on a non-fiction book about the Neopolitan mob. Mother is going to get a lot of attention this year, but it's pretty weird (like an Almodóvar film without the polish).

Posted: 6/4/2010 5:27:20 AM EDT

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Nobody is going to the movies? Avatar made over $2billion and the top 10 movies out now have grossed $1billion.

http://www.imdb.com/chart/

Call the whambulance.

Posted: 6/4/2010 5:30:49 AM EDT

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Going to the movies is lame

Last time I went was to see 300

Watching in the comfort of your own home with the ability to pause or rewind is the deal, plus I can Airpop my own damn popcorn that tastes better than any movie theater popcorn

Posted: 6/4/2010 5:31:06 AM EDT

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Ironman 2 reminded me a lot of Robocop 2. Shift some stuff around, change some details and it's pretty close.

Crap, crap and more crap.

BTW: They're remaking Robocop. Yay.

How dare you make fun of robocop!

I think he's disappointed that Hollywood is likely to butcher a remake of Robocop.

Hell, with the way Detroit is going they might be able to film it there and not incur any production costs to portray a crime-filled city on the edge of ruin.

PS I'd buy that for a dollar.

Posted: 6/4/2010 5:39:05 AM EDT

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People like to complain about the lack of original ideas in Hollywood, but just check out the threads in the Archives about No Country For Old Men, when everyone was bitching because the story didn't conform to their expectations for an action movie. No matter what they say, most people want their films to follow a very linear arc.

Posted: 6/4/2010 6:15:52 AM EDT

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...on the frozen tundra of Antarctica.

There is no tundra in Antarctica.

Yes there is.

Underneath miles and miles of ice

_MaH

Posted: 6/4/2010 6:17:37 AM EDT

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everything's pretty much already been done...

truely new ideas are rare...

Posted: 6/4/2010 6:25:02 AM EDT

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The last time I went to a movie and walked out speechless not being able to compare it to anything (when someone asked me what it was like) was The Matrix. That movie was like lightning in a bottle. A new, fresh idea that was so inconceivable, and so cool on the big screen, you just HAD to go see it again the following weekend.

Posted: 6/4/2010 6:37:55 AM EDT

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Nobody is going to the movies? Avatar made over $2billion and the top 10 movies out now have grossed $1billion.

http://www.imdb.com/chart/

Call the whambulance.

MGM can't get financing for "The Hobbit" because they are thought to be on the verge of bankruptcy.

You have to be careful with Hollywood accounting. Any number of actors who signed on for a cut of the "profits" have raised a stink.

Anyway, this isn't about the amount of swill, but the flavor.

Posted: 6/4/2010 7:04:26 AM EDT

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When you think you're seeing a great new Hollywood movie, 9 times out of 10 it's a direct remake of a foreign film that was better anyway.

aka "The Professional".

And Hollywood sucks.

Pretty much. Last good movie I saw in theaters was "The Departed". Realized it was based off of a Japanese film a few days later.

Hong Kong movie I think the titled translated to something like Infernal Affair or something. It was a trilogy, and Hollywood is rumored to be remaking everyone.

No movie should qualify for an Oscar if it is a scene for scene remake of another film.

Posted: 6/4/2010 7:04:34 AM EDT

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Has anybody seen "Autumn," it's a German, pseudo-zombie film (mysterious disease kills 95% of all people in a few days and a few days later they start coming back to life). Saw it on Redbox and thinking of renting it. Can't go wrong for a dollar, but thought I'd ask.

BTW, my adaptation dream would be a movie version of Mark Helprin's "A Soldier of the Great War" my favorite book.

Posted: 6/4/2010 7:07:33 AM EDT

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Iron Man 2 was awesome.

I always love how ARFcom brings out the "LOLOLOL HOLLYWOOD IS DYING AND I HATE THEIR MOVIES" when in reality, Hollywood is bringing in the bucks.

Posted: 6/4/2010 7:08:29 AM EDT

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I think some of the more talented people on this site could write a decent zombie that wouldn't suck ass, or any other genre for that matter.

Posted: 6/4/2010 7:09:23 AM EDT

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Top ten movies from 70 years ago

The ironic part is that Hollywood experienced a golden age during the depression. People went to the movies in droves as a means of escape from the real world, whether they could afford it or not.

Today Hollywood lacks originality, courage, and inspiration. It more resembles the listless, static, bloodless, communist government propaganda machines once seen behind the iron curtain.

This is why I am exploring foreign films more and more.

Posted: 6/4/2010 7:09:58 AM EDT

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This is why I enjoy independent films.

Even so called indie films suffer from the same communist propaganda illness.

Posted: 6/4/2010 7:10:01 AM EDT

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Iron Man 2 was awesome.

I always love how ARFcom brings out the "LOLOLOL HOLLYWOOD IS DYING AND I HATE THEIR MOVIES" when in reality, Hollywood is bringing in the bucks.

Adjusted for inflation how does the box office take stack up agianst 1985?

Posted: 6/4/2010 7:10:30 AM EDT

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Quoted:

Quoted:
Nobody is going to the movies? Avatar made over $2billion and the top 10 movies out now have grossed $1billion.

http://www.imdb.com/chart/

Call the whambulance.

MGM can't get financing for "The Hobbit" because they are thought to be on the verge of bankruptcy.

You have to be careful with Hollywood accounting. Any number of actors who signed on for a cut of the "profits" have raised a stink.

Anyway, this isn't about the amount of swill, but the flavor.

The OP made the argument that no one is going to the movies, an arugment that is incorrect.

Posted: 6/4/2010 7:11:27 AM EDT

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This is why I almost exclusively go to my local independent/foreign film theater

Seen such excellent films as Pan's Labyrinth, Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, Run Lola Run, The Lives of Others, and so on.

Price is <$20 for my wife and I too include flavored coffees, a huge cup of frozen yogurt and various pastries made by the bakery next door. In the last year I have noticed an increase in people going to this theater- asked the owner about it and he said he has had a 20% increase in sales since last year. He said people want value combined with quality films.

Again all foreign films.