Doubletap to the left side of his face -- The JSOC Team that got bin Laden - Page 2

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Doubletap to the left side of his face -- The JSOC Team that got bin Laden (Page 2 of 2)

Posted: 5/2/2011 1:39:14 PM EDT

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Seymour Hersh called JSOC the private assassination team of Dick Cheney.

http://www.alternet.org/rights/131153/seymour_hersh:_%22executive_assassination_ring%22_answered_to_cheney,_had_no_congressional_oversight/

Posted: 5/2/2011 1:45:02 PM EDT

[#2]

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It will be interesting to see the full details if they ever get released.

Highly doubt it. That's a very hush-hush group of guys. Identities usually kept pretty secret.

I am sure Mark Bowden has already started his book. Even if none of the SEALs talk, plenty of others will. Too much national pride to for folks to STFU.

Posted: 5/2/2011 1:55:59 PM EDT

[#3]

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It will be interesting to see the full details if they ever get released.

Highly doubt it. That's a very hush-hush group of guys. Identities usually kept pretty secret.

I am sure Mark Bowden has already started his book. Even if none of the SEALs talk, plenty of others will. Too much national pride to for folks to STFU.

I'd definitely buy it.

Posted: 5/2/2011 2:02:57 PM EDT

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Reports are that they had to cross the Hindu Kush on their way into Pakistan.....that means they had to be using MH-47s. I'm gonna guess there were 4 birds carrying about 100 troops that pulled the raid....but what do I know?

God bless our troops!!

Posted: 5/2/2011 2:27:28 PM EDT

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I thought according to the speech last night from Obama that he was flying one of the helicopters...what a dude he is...

Why do you think one of them had a "hard landing" and needed blown up?

Posted: 5/2/2011 2:31:08 PM EDT

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Why do we always have so many helicopter issues on these raids???

A helicopter is made of thousands of parts, they all hate each other and try their best to get away from each other, if they are connected sufficiently the entire contraption flies through the air. But it is simply the top part trying to get away from the bottom part harder that gets them into the air.

Posted: 5/2/2011 2:32:56 PM EDT

[#7]

My 14 year old daughter said he should have been burned alive. I agree.

Posted: 5/2/2011 2:53:13 PM EDT

[#8]

I hope the shooter said "no virgins for you to Bin Laden before he shot him.

Posted: 5/2/2011 2:55:36 PM EDT

[#9]

It was probably Marcinko

Posted: 5/2/2011 3:02:02 PM EDT

[#10]

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I hope the shooter said "no virgins for you to Bin Laden before he shot him.

They got it mixed up, it's not 72 virgins, it's one 72 year old virgin.

Posted: 5/2/2011 3:06:10 PM EDT

[#11]

I thought I read "facial recognition" was used to identify the body.

Two shots to the side of the head...

Posted: 5/2/2011 3:45:17 PM EDT

[#12]

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I hope the shooter said "no virgins for you to Bin Laden before he shot him.

They got it mixed up, it's not 72 virgins, it's one 72 year old virgin.

Ok that got me a bit...

Posted: 5/2/2011 3:49:38 PM EDT

[#13]

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Why do we always have so many helicopter issues on these raids???

Well, for starters, they're helicopters

Posted: 5/2/2011 3:53:04 PM EDT

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I thought Team Six was no longer?

Name changed to DEVGRU.

Didn't they change their official name again? Like how Delta officially went from 1st SFOD-D, to CAG, and most recently ACE?

I've heard they did by the time the actual names become public info they have already changed them.

Posted: 5/2/2011 3:54:57 PM EDT

[#15]

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I thought Team Six was no longer?

Name changed to DEVGRU.

I will go out on a limb here...

Operator - Nope

Tier 1 - Old news

DEVGRU - latest ARFcom buzzwerd

"That lastest Magpul grip/stock/spork is DEVGRU"

ByteTheBullet (-:

I guess I wasn't aware that ST-6 being renamed to DEVGRU was news to anyone.

Posted: 5/2/2011 3:54:57 PM EDT

[#16]

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22 and zero? Damn, that's a hell of a kill death ratio. I wonder if they called in attack dogs.

Seriously though. 40 minutes, 22 dead, one crashed helicopter...0 casualties. Them some bad ass mofo's.

Report I read said that most of the 40 minutes was spent tossing the place for intel. They apparently were pretty damn efficient in the actual firefight.

Posted: 5/2/2011 4:02:34 PM EDT

[#17]

From the article:

In it, he thanked the National Security Agency and the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency for their help.

We have an agency just for knowing where things are, relative to other things.

MEMORANDUM

02 May 2011

FROM: NGIA

TO: DNI

RE: Your inquiry of 28 Apr 2011

_________________________________________

Over yonder. No, there. Beside the paperweight.

END

Posted: 5/2/2011 4:04:48 PM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:

Quoted:

I thought Team Six was no longer?

Name changed to DEVGRU.

I will go out on a limb here...

Operator - Nope

Tier 1 - Old news

DEVGRU - latest ARFcom buzzwerd

"That lastest Magpul grip/stock/spork is DEVGRU"

ByteTheBullet (-:

I guess I wasn't aware that ST-6 being renamed to DEVGRU was news to anyone.

It kinda isn't, it's been DEVGRU for awhile now as you obviously know

But shit like that doesn't just get broadcast on the news 'tonight at 9, Seal Team 6 is now known as DEVGRU', but you probably know that too

Posted: 5/2/2011 4:11:04 PM EDT

[#19]

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Hometown boys got Bin Laden.

Hampton Roads has another reason to be proud.

Hampton Roads or Dam Neck? Thought it was the later.

Umm, Dam Neck is a part of Hampton Roads... Proud of my hometown for once :)

Posted: 5/2/2011 4:13:29 PM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:

Quoted:

I thought Team Six was no longer?

Name changed to DEVGRU.

I will go out on a limb here...

Operator - Nope

Tier 1 - Old news

DEVGRU - latest ARFcom buzzwerd

"That lastest Magpul grip/stock/spork is DEVGRU"

ByteTheBullet (-:

I guess I wasn't aware that ST-6 being renamed to DEVGRU was news to anyone.

It kinda isn't, it's been DEVGRU for awhile now as you obviously know

But shit like that doesn't just get broadcast on the news 'tonight at 9, Seal Team 6 is now known as DEVGRU', but you probably know that too

Just wait and see what happens with SFOD-D/CAG!

Posted: 5/2/2011 4:15:11 PM EDT

[#21]

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Hometown boys got Bin Laden.

Hampton Roads has another reason to be proud.

Hampton Roads or Dam Neck? Thought it was the later.

Umm, Dam Neck is a part of Hampton Roads... Proud of my hometown for once :)

Born in New Port News myself. Always heard Dam Neck referred to when discussing NAVSPECWAR. That's all. Not trying to call you out on stupid shit.

Posted: 5/2/2011 4:27:20 PM EDT

[#22]

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22 and zero? Damn, that's a hell of a kill death ratio. I wonder if they called in attack dogs.

Seriously though. 40 minutes, 22 dead, one crashed helicopter...0 casualties. Them some bad ass mofo's.

Report I read said that most of the 40 minutes was spent tossing the place for intel. They apparently were pretty damn efficient in the actual firefight.

I heard they recovered a bunch of hard drives, among other stuff.

I wonder if it has any good intel, or everyone was just playing Jihadville 18 hours a day.........................

Posted: 5/2/2011 4:32:49 PM EDT

[#23]

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It was probably Marcinko

Had to be!

Posted: 5/2/2011 5:13:47 PM EDT

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Sounds like loss of lift caused by the structure below and very low altitute. Called a dead mans hover and lucky it just turned into a hard landing with nobody hurt.

If you don't mind, can you give a Cliff Notes explanation as to why that happens?

Thanks.

Posted: 5/2/2011 5:25:11 PM EDT

[#25]

Modified MH-60 helicopters carried Navy SEALs, tactical signals, intelligence collectors, and navigators using highly classified hyperspectral imagers from Ghazi Air Base in Pakistan. It has been speculated that these helicopters may have spoofed transponder codes and been painted to resemble Pakistan Air Force equipment by other JSOC units

nice

Posted: 5/2/2011 5:35:30 PM EDT

[#26]

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I thought according to the speech last night from Obama that he was flying one of the helicopters...what a dude he is...

Why do you think one of them had a "hard landing" and needed blown up?

Michelle was on the chopper?

Posted: 5/2/2011 6:27:37 PM EDT

[#27]

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Sounds like loss of lift caused by the structure below and very low altitute. Called a dead mans hover and lucky it just turned into a hard landing with nobody hurt.

If you don't mind, can you give a Cliff Notes explanation as to why that happens?

Thanks.

Helicopter rotors provide lift by accelerating air downward. What matters is how much change in speed is done on the mass of air to produce the reaction lift force.

When near the ground, and/or wall-like structures, the downdraft can be deflected so it kind of circles around and goes back down through the rotors again. When this happens, the air is already coming down fast into the rotor, so it's like flying a helicopter in a strong downdraft, and it can get beyond the ability of the helicopter to overcome it.

ETA: it's much worse in a hover since a moving helicopter moves ahead of the recirculating air and is thus not affected as much or at all depending on airspeed.

Posted: 5/2/2011 9:58:33 PM EDT

[#28]

Quoted:

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Sounds like loss of lift caused by the structure below and very low altitute. Called a dead mans hover and lucky it just turned into a hard landing with nobody hurt.

If you don't mind, can you give a Cliff Notes explanation as to why that happens?

Thanks.

Vortex Ring State

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vortex_ring

Posted: 5/2/2011 11:10:17 PM EDT

[#29]

Left side in honor of Mayday for our President.

Posted: 5/2/2011 11:18:55 PM EDT

[#30]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I thought Team Six was no longer?

Name changed to DEVGRU.

I will go out on a limb here...

Operator - Nope
Tier 1 - Old news
DEVGRU - latest ARFcom buzzwerd

"That lastest Magpul grip/stock/spork is DEVGRU"

F

ByteTheBullet (-:

Funny thing about that... Last year DEVGRU changed its name to something classified. Yup, They actually classified the new name. It was in the same company email I got telling us CAG is now ACE so I assume it happened at the same time. Arf is just a little behind the curve.

Posted: 5/3/2011 5:07:42 AM EDT

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My 14 year old daughter said he should have been burned alive. I agree.

Tell her he'd smell like bacon.

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