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Link Posted: 1/22/2013 6:53:18 AM EDT
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More reason to do away with  "ex-felons/felons" losing their rights.

The man paid his debt with jail time, he is square with the house.





I feel the same way, either you have paid your debt to society, or you have not.  What was the felony drug charge, a bag of weed when he was 19 years old.  Really?  




What about felony child molesters?  Are they square with the house once they get out?
Don't twist my words, I said nothing about child molesters, or their what I think their punishment should be.  Prior to 1968, one could be convicted of say "Armed Robbery", and upon release could purchase a firearm.  Now if said citizen can't be trusted with his rights, why should he be released?  My point is that, when speaking of tightening the requirements needing to be met before someone can exercise their rights, one must be very cautious.  It won't be long before you are the one that does not "meet" the requirements.





 
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 6:54:58 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/22/2013 7:03:02 AM EDT
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An anonymous tip had led to the investigation, which eventually resulted in the prepper’s home being raided by 150 armed officers, helicopters, SWAT crews, armored vehicles and even excavation equipment.


Outstanding use of tax dollars - no mention drones or if the KeyHole satellites were used.

... the anonymous tip claimed Terry Porter was “getting crazier and crazier” because he was stockpiling “10 to 15 machine gun-style firearms” at his home in Sharpsburg [MD]


The FBI recovered only “four shotguns, a .30-30-caliber rifle and two .22-caliber rifles” with no machine guns in sight. The prepper was not even home at the time.


So a completely wrong anonymous tip gets a Maryland police department and FBI to spend a quarter million dollars worth of equipment costs and labor to find four shotguns, and three rifles. Thankfully the guy had a 20 year old drug conviction so he was a prohibited person and therefore the military invasion was justified.  



Meanwhile how many schools were left unprotected? How many streets were not being watched?  How much of that money wasted on this and similar operations could have been used to help expand jails or prisons to hold violent offenders?

We would have far less crime in this society if we behaved in a rational and reasonable manner. What a total waste of time.
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 7:03:11 AM EDT
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I absolutely love obama.  He's dreamy.


All Hail,  King O  

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a313/fullauto4u/283227124_obama_mussolini_xlarge.gif


Vive Le Douche!
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 7:07:00 AM EDT
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FBI has reportedly characterized bulk food buying as a “potential terrorist activity.”



THIS!

Holy shit
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 7:07:26 AM EDT
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1. Only break one law at a time.

2. And keep a low profile.

Link Posted: 1/22/2013 7:10:57 AM EDT
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I'm surprised they didn't "find" kiddie porn as well


And a kilo of coke or pot.  Those seem to be the gimmie charges anymore.


Or some cuban whores, brazilians etc etc
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 7:12:42 AM EDT
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FBI has reportedly characterized bulk food buying as a "potential terrorist activity.”







THIS!



Holy shit




Just imagine if there was a panic on food like there is on guns right now....



You think a few gouging threads on Arfcom are bad, the "It's just capitalism" argument would not work on the FSA and dear leader would have their backs.



Oh, and Fuck Obama and go ahead and check my record.
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 7:14:01 AM EDT
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At least he didn't die in a single vehicle accident.



Or committing suicide by shooting himself in the back of the head multiple times.


Vince Foster's suicide note:

Milk
Eggs
Bread
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 7:15:08 AM EDT
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I stopped reading when I found out he was a felon in possession and ran his mouth about owning guns.  He's an idiot.
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 7:16:12 AM EDT
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"According to Infowars.com"

And that's when I quit reading.
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 7:23:33 AM EDT
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More reason to do away with  "ex-felons/felons" losing their rights.

The man paid his debt with jail time, he is square with the house.



Apart from sexual deviants, or people whom have shown to habitually pray on othersI would agree with this.


Molestors should never get out.


If someone hurt my kids I would want them out as soon as possible so I could have a face to face chat with them.
Problem solved.
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 7:24:50 AM EDT
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FBI has reportedly characterized bulk food buying as a “potential terrorist activity.”



Wait, so the DHS says we should put food away in the event of an emergency, but the FBI call it potential terrorist activity?
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 7:24:51 AM EDT
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Article is full of WTF

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile


Like what?

Maybe a company of armored infantry with air support responding to an "anonymous tip"?
Maybe storing food, possessing firearms and criticizing the President being justification for an investigation into domestic terrorism?
Maybe having an underground shelter? I remember Civil Defense films and pamphlets recommending and instructing how to do this.
Maybe the surveillance cameras? Those sure are suspicious. Only bad guys have them.

One schmuck with a couple of old guns and a big mouth and this is the response?  This was a warning to anyone who is taking responsibility for their own well being, anyone who may criticize the people or policies of government. A large, over the top display of force directed at one guy who is just like many of those reading this.

How many people will be willing forfeit their 1st and 2nd Amendment (and others) rights to avoid the threat of this happening to them.  

I did a little search. In June of last year, Mr. Porter was involved in a civil suit against a neighbor who's Pit Bulls had killed his Black Lab. Anonymous tip, my ass. He had a pissed off neighbor bring the world down on his head. The government was happy to oblige based on Porter running his mouth and bitching to the undercover about Obama. It was an opportunity to display a willingness to use force.

All of this occurred before Sandy Hook and the current 2A debate. I would expect to see more of the same in the future. None of it gives me hope for the future.


Link Posted: 1/22/2013 7:26:11 AM EDT
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FBI has reportedly characterized bulk food buying as a “potential terrorist activity.”



Bulk food buying as recommended by FEMA and the DHS.  

Maybe we need to register our Preps with the .gov.  


I think they recommend only having 3-5 days worth of food stockpiled.  If you have more than that you better watch yourself
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 7:28:33 AM EDT
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While this was not illegal, the investigation led police to the
discovery that Porter had a 1992 felony drug conviction and was
therefore barred from owning firearms.





Are we winning the war on drugs yet?  I sure do feel safer now.

Link Posted: 1/22/2013 7:35:40 AM EDT
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Nothing to see here, citizens, nothing to see. Move along. I said Move Along!!
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 7:35:58 AM EDT
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Doomsday Prepper Raided By FBI for being a felon illegally in possesion of firearms For Criticizing Obama

Fixed your title.
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 7:36:14 AM EDT
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This is from back in Dec, I don't think it's a dupe, found this interesting especially with everything going on right now.  Link to story; Doomsday Prepper

No, he was raided because he's a felon with a firearm  


And the FBI sends 150 agents?  WOW!!  Over funded federal agency, a little?



I got raided by 14 DNR officers in battle gear for selling a duck once.
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 7:49:57 AM EDT
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This is from back in Dec, I don't think it's a dupe, found this interesting especially with everything going on right now.  Link to story; Doomsday Prepper

No, he was raided because he's a felon with a firearm  


And the FBI sends 150 agents?  WOW!!  Over funded federal agency, a little?



I got raided by 14 DNR officers in battle gear for selling a duck once.


I hope you learned your lesson.

Link Posted: 1/22/2013 7:58:41 AM EDT
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This is from back in Dec, I don't think it's a dupe, found this interesting especially with everything going on right now.  Link to story; Doomsday Prepper


No, he was raided because he's a felon with a firearm  




And the FBI sends 150 agents?  WOW!!  Over funded federal agency, a little?







I got raided by 14 DNR officers in battle gear for selling a duck once.


If there is one class of citizens who should not own firearms it's DUCK PIMPS!

 
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 8:21:13 AM EDT
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The other prepper getting called "mentally defective" bothers me more.

Although the size of the raid was ridiculous.
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 8:25:21 AM EDT
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Doomsday Prepper Raided By FBI for being a felon illegally in possesion of firearms For Criticizing Obama

Fixed your title.


I think your completely mmissing the point here......
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 8:27:03 AM EDT
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The other prepper getting called "mentally defective" bothers me more.

Although the size of the raid was ridiculous.


The whole metally defective thing goes right along with the Kenyan's EO's.  It opens up a lot of doors for the .gov to come in and take your shit.
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 8:27:47 AM EDT
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More reason to do away with  "ex-felons/felons" losing their rights.
The man paid his debt with jail time, he is square with the house.


I feel the same way, either you have paid your debt to society, or you have not.  What was the felony drug charge, a bag of weed when he was 19 years old.  Really?  


What about felony child molesters?  Are they square with the house once they get out?


THEY SHOULD NOT BE FREE IF THEY CANNOT BE FREE.
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 8:29:40 AM EDT
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This is from back in Dec, I don't think it's a dupe, found this interesting especially with everything going on right now.  Link to story; Doomsday Prepper

No, he was raided because he's a felon with a firearm  


And the FBI sends 150 agents?  WOW!!  Over funded federal agency, a little?



I got raided by 14 DNR officers in battle gear for selling a duck once.

If there is one class of citizens who should not own firearms it's DUCK PIMPS!  


It was a stuffed duck that I had purchased at a Ducks Unlimited charity auction (co-sponsored by the DNR)
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 8:30:51 AM EDT
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At least he didn't die in a single vehicle accident.

Exactly.

Link Posted: 1/22/2013 8:32:37 AM EDT
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More reason to do away with  "ex-felons/felons" losing their rights.
The man paid his debt with jail time, he is square with the house.


I feel the same way, either you have paid your debt to society, or you have not.  What was the felony drug charge, a bag of weed when he was 19 years old.  Really?  


What about felony child molesters?  Are they square with the house once they get out?


pot head and kiddy pedo are two very different things.
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 8:35:00 AM EDT
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The other prepper getting called "mentally defective" bothers me more.

Although the size of the raid was ridiculous.


The whole metally defective thing goes right along with the Kenyan's EO's.  It opens up a lot of doors for the .gov to come in and take your shit.


Scary stuff...
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 8:36:19 AM EDT
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Misleading article title is misleading.
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 8:37:12 AM EDT
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NVM.
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 8:37:34 AM EDT
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so "OWNING" a few guns makes you crazy?

fuck them.
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 8:40:03 AM EDT
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so "OWNING" a few guns makes you crazy?

fuck them.


Criticizing O will get you looked at closer.  

If you own guns and food you are probably fucked.

If you are a felon in possession of firearms you are definitely fucked.
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 8:40:32 AM EDT
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More reason to do away with  "ex-felons/felons" losing their rights.

The man paid his debt with jail time, he is square with the house.



Apart from sexual deviants, or people whom have shown to habitually pray on othersI would agree with this.



They shouldn't be out of prison. The sad reality is this guy will spend longer in prison than your average child molester, it makes no sense at all that child molesters get such short terms while victimless crimes get long harsh sentences.
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 8:49:34 AM EDT
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With the current administration being what it is, I would expect that the Paranoid Tyrant-In-Chief has us all on The List.
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 8:51:27 AM EDT
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I sent a letter to my state senator complaining about his gun stance. No not weaver style.
I was paranoid after I sent it.  I am sure we are all on some type of list at this point.
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 8:56:28 AM EDT
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The other prepper getting called "mentally defective" bothers me more.

Although the size of the raid was ridiculous.


The whole metally defective thing goes right along with the Kenyan's EO's.  It opens up a lot of doors for the .gov to come in and take your shit.




You seem ... familiar.




Link Posted: 1/22/2013 9:00:00 AM EDT
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The other prepper getting called "mentally defective" bothers me more.

Although the size of the raid was ridiculous.


The whole metally defective thing goes right along with the Kenyan's EO's.  It opens up a lot of doors for the .gov to come in and take your shit.




You seem ... familiar.







Me?!


Phew, not me.
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 9:06:56 AM EDT
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More reason to do away with  "ex-felons/felons" losing their rights.
The man paid his debt with jail time, he is square with the house.


I feel the same way, either you have paid your debt to society, or you have not.  What was the felony drug charge, a bag of weed when he was 19 years old.  Really?  


What about felony child molesters?  Are they square with the house once they get out?


either they have paid for their crimes or they have not..if the state releases them, then obviously the state thinks that they have paid.
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 9:19:35 AM EDT
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The other prepper getting called "mentally defective" bothers me more.



Although the size of the raid was ridiculous.




The whole metally defective thing goes right along with the Kenyan's EO's.  It opens up a lot of doors for the .gov to come in and take your shit.

You seem ... familiar.














 
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 9:25:38 AM EDT
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I live roughly 20 minutes from where this happened. My best friend lives right down the street from where it happened and called me to tell me what was going on. The guy is a local welder who builds rockcrawlers. His felony possession was when he was 19 and he had a bag of weed. The guns in question are all old fudd guns that were given to his son from his grandfather. They had swat, local pd, and FBI there and had all the roads shut down. They even called in a backhoe to rip up his bunker.
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 9:26:03 AM EDT
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Opsec that guy didn't have it.


spot on!
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 9:29:43 AM EDT
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I live roughly 20 minutes from where this happened. My best friend lives right down the street from where it happened and called me to tell me what was going on. The guy is a local welder who builds rockcrawlers. His felony possession was when he was 19 and he had a bag of weed. The guns in question are all old fudd guns that were given to his son from his grandfather. They had swat, local pd, and FBI there and had all the roads shut down. They even called in a backhoe to rip up his bunker.

Bullshit.

It was a federal felony conviction for distribution of cocaine.
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 9:35:05 AM EDT
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fbi loves all those tv shows because that gives them opportunity to investigate them, since they can't afford to do that on millions of americans.

don't want to be investigated, dont be on tv!
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 9:39:32 AM EDT
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Felony drug conviction...........whoops.......


Amazing how this is completely missed by those in this thread. Criminal with a firearm. Hmm.
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 9:39:45 AM EDT
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"According to Infowars.com"

And that's when I quit reading.


I suspected BS at first. This confirmed it for me. That is also exactly where I stopped. I knew that derp and lies would follow.

Link Posted: 1/22/2013 9:44:23 AM EDT
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What the hell makes a convicted felon with firearms go on national TV and tell everyone he has firearms.

Some people are more than stupid.
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 9:45:23 AM EDT
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Any chance the evidence can be thrown out, since there was no probable cause to search his house in the first place?

Link Posted: 1/22/2013 9:48:38 AM EDT
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While [criticizing Obama] was not illegal, the investigation led police to the
discovery that Porter had a 1992 felony drug conviction and was
therefore barred from owning firearms.





ETA: This has nothing to do with him being a prepper or bad mouthing the Führer.



 
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