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Link Posted: 7/23/2001 3:15:28 PM EDT
[#1]
Whoops did I miss one?? Thanks Grin&Barrett, I'll throw Hineline in there as well. And as far as a body bag goes...LOL well lets just say you might have misunderstood what I wrote. In other words, it'll be hard for you c-rock to pull a trigger with both of your hands broke. I like tough talking guys like yourself, I find it more amusing when a tough guys breaks down and crys..lol And yes, I've seen em cry. Even the big ones will beg when you hurt them enough. I promise, I can push harder than you can. And no I wouldn't shoot you, that takes all the sport out of it. I'm a hands on kinda guy. Until you feel an arm break in the palm of your hands you wouldn't understand what I'm talking about. But who knows, maybe I'll show ya what I mean.
Link Posted: 7/23/2001 3:18:10 PM EDT
[#2]
Originally Posted By Grin&Barrett:
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People like c-rock and shooterX308 suck. They have no respect for other people.
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You forgot to add Hineline in there as well.
C-Rock:  I have met ya & I'm ashamed of you not seeing the common sense here.
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You met me Grin, and you know from my postings I do not start flame wars.  Except this time.  I do have respect for other people, and I respect the way they want to live. Here is a white boy, living in a Hispanic neighborhood.  Guess what? Things are different. Get use to it. Start calling the cops, and get yourself in trouble. He's the only white boy in town.

Grin, maybe things are different south of I-80, or maybe being around chicago gets you use to noise, and being able to zone it out.  Anyways, see ya at the next meet, figure labor day weekend at the pit.  Hope you and Anti can make it.
c-rock
Link Posted: 7/23/2001 3:23:14 PM EDT
[#3]
I got the solution. Become an air pirate, but watch out for the FCC.

Get a hold of a buddy who has some Ham or CB radio experience and have him build you a directional beam antenna, then transmit on a radio frequncey that disrupts their audio. You can say what you like and have it play over "their speakers" or transmit some gay music like the Village People on their speakers and everyone will look at them funny. You can use your imagination as to what you want playing on their speakers.

By the way, the right frequecy should cut into the audio even if they are playing off a tape, CD or whatever.

Must admit I did this once back in the days of those super loud BOOM BOOM BOOM systems. Just hope they don't get smart and install filters. Maybe you can just transmit a dead carrier once in a while to keep them guessing.
Link Posted: 7/23/2001 3:27:59 PM EDT
[#4]
heres 2 suggestions if you are going to volume wars --
CELTIC BAGPIPES, those thing will cut through ANY music, if your a white guy you can claim its your culture

the other is ... PREDEATOR/VARMINT Fight Calls for hunting on tape, this horrible screeching, whining, SCREAMING, will make the nieghborhood think you are a total madman, and it will cut into there noise real good.
Link Posted: 7/23/2001 3:31:29 PM EDT
[#5]
And as far as a body bag goes...LOL well lets just say you might have misunderstood what I wrote. In other words, it'll be hard for you c-rock to pull a trigger with both of your hands broke. I like tough talking guys like yourself, I find it more amusing when a tough guys breaks down and crys..lol And yes, I've seen em cry. Even the big ones will beg when you hurt them enough. I promise, I can push harder than you can. And no I wouldn't shoot you, that takes all the sport out of it. I'm a hands on kinda guy. Until you feel an arm break in the palm of your hands you wouldn't understand what I'm talking about. But who knows, maybe I'll show ya what I mean.
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Kid, this ain't H.S.  I am not the one that started making threats, nor wanted to fight. You DID.  Keep on making threats, I don't give a shit. Hell, come on up to Illinois, if that if your cup of tea.
Fuck Sport, I rather shoot some cocksucker white trash peice of shit trying to make threats with a keyboard.  Hell, I like to personally see what 55 grns can do.  

I am also old enough, wise enough not to fuck with people I never met before, nor know what they are capable of.
 
So, look at my profile, you can see where I live.  Its a small town of 15,000 people.  Ask around, someone will tell ya were I live.  
c-rock  
Link Posted: 7/23/2001 3:33:11 PM EDT
[#6]
Hey c-rock... last time I checked, this was the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA...  I shouldn't have to deal with a bunch of your wet-back music, or any other kind of music blasting from a front porch at 7:00 in the Fucking morning or at 2 am.  I work my ass off 6, sometimes 7 days a week, and I'm not the only hard working American in the neighborhood either... I'm just the only one with any ball sack to stand up for my rights!  I won't back down and keep silent for anybody unless they go by the name Gunnery Sgt...   Its because of people like you that people take the law into their own hands anyway.  If the neighborhood i'm in is THEIR neighborhood, then they're in MY fucking Country and they should get the fuck out...and so should you pogue...
Link Posted: 7/23/2001 3:37:54 PM EDT
[#7]


I am also old enough, wise enough not to fuck with people I never met before, nor know what they are capable of.
 
So, look at my profile, you can see where I live.  Its a small town of 15,000 people.  Ask around, someone will tell ya were I live.  
c-rock   [/quote]

If you were that smart, you wouldn't have invited me. Oh yeah and like you said, you don't know what I'm capable of.
Link Posted: 7/23/2001 3:55:22 PM EDT
[#8]

If you were that smart, you wouldn't have invited me. Oh yeah and like you said, you don't know what I'm capable of.
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I don't, but I am going to call ya on it, honky-tonk boy.  
So, come on up to the big city, hell I even leave the light on for ya too.  Watch out for construction on 94.  It can be a bitch.  Shit, do some searching on here, you can find a pic of me on here, with all of my toys.  I am not afraid to show my face, so show me yours, if you want to talk shit.

Guess what else? Making a copy of the thread, so I can plead self-defense with my lawyer at court.  
Don't worry, I aint going to run to the Mods, nor file a complaint.  That's not me. I aint pussy like you all.

To the other crackers on here, who the fuck are you to say its YOUR country.  The world don't owe you shit, just cause you are lilly white. They also don't have to conform to your RULES either.   Even if you move into the neighborhood.  
Anyways, I am done posting on this thread,
Fuck this thread, I am staying out of it after this.  I respect this board, and what Ed Sr. created.  
You want to make threats, email me.
c-rock
Link Posted: 7/23/2001 4:08:22 PM EDT
[#9]
I had a friend in HS who's uncle lived in El Monte, CA. He was probably the only red neck biker in the town. All his neighbors were Mexicans. He was a musician, so when that kind of crap happened, he'd point his Fender Twin out the front door and crank a fairly good rendition of the Star Bangled Banner on his Stratocaster. Not as good as Hendrix, but damn close. If worked for a while, but eventually the Mexicans tired of his antics and shot out his bay window. Every so often he'd come home to find is stuff ripped off or new bullet holes in his front door and windows. He had a pretty good idea who was shooting holes in his house, so he bought a .357 mag and got his payback from time to time. Finally, he got tired of that crap, so he got his biker buds together and went for a late night rampage. Last I heard, everything was peaceful.

Anyway, get used to it. By 2050 Hispanics will be the majority in this nation. Every city will look like Tijuana by that time.
Link Posted: 7/23/2001 4:44:24 PM EDT
[#10]
This is C-rock... he's such a bad ass.
[img]http://www.illinois-shooter.org/mossy2.JPG[/img]
Link Posted: 7/23/2001 5:21:56 PM EDT
[#11]
A STUPID-ASS like C_ROCK proves my point every time!
Why waste your typing skills on this one guys.
[b]ENOUGH SAID![/b]
Link Posted: 7/23/2001 6:41:22 PM EDT
[#12]
Fellas, I believe this has escalated to a point where nothing good can happen.  I'm surprised with some peoples opinions and their disregard for their neighbors rights.  We just bought a new Condo and  We threw a party within the first few weeks that we were here.  We had on loud music (till 3AM, I was too shitfaced to know what time it was) and the neighbor finally came over to tell us to turn down the music.  Was I offended, no I was embarrassed)  I apologized and turned down the music.  My father taught me to have respect for people.  I was fall down drunk and gave him no backlash.  Why, its my house, don't I have the right?  Well I don't think its a matter of having a right or not having a right.  I believe its a matter of respect.  I value the friendship of my neighbors, what if someone was robbing your house, or it was on fire when you were away?  I bet you would wish that same neighbor would respect you instead of watching the thing burn.  
As far as the ass whipping that's going to be administered, I think its a bunch of BS.  If you talk the talk, you should be able to walk the walk.  If you guys want to get it on, do it like men.  I respect the fact that NightHawk never brought the threat of using a gun , even when he was threatened with one.  If you run your mouth, don't hide behind your gun.  That's the problem with the world today.  It used to be that the natural pecking order was figured out in a good knock down drag out fight.  You either gave an ass whooping or received one.  That was that.  C-Rock I respect your opinion about the music even though I think its wrong, I do not respect the fact that your obviously a scared man that has to threaten people with guns.  That's not what most shooters stand for.    
Link Posted: 7/23/2001 7:12:52 PM EDT
[#13]
C-Rock:  Things are way different south of I80.
The politics of Chicago area have brought us the fine gun laws we have.

You may be right the more people are thrown together the more desensitized they become to normal civility.

Things like knocking on a door, waiting in line instead of butting in, peace disturbance etc

The more lazy people become in not accepting resposibility & expecting things to be given to them the quicker socialism takes root.

Being a majority doesn't make it right to be pigs.
Link Posted: 7/23/2001 7:21:24 PM EDT
[#14]
...is that a bayonet on a shotgun in the picture???

what a tard...
Link Posted: 7/23/2001 7:21:41 PM EDT
[#15]
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POLKA!  and loud.
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FUNNY, yet the most effective thing to do.[smoke]
Link Posted: 7/23/2001 7:30:17 PM EDT
[#16]
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c-rock,

Did you wake up on the wrong side of nobody today?
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MOOOOHAHAHAHAHA![smoke]
Nice twist!
Link Posted: 7/23/2001 7:39:15 PM EDT
[#17]
Love is the answer.
Link Posted: 7/23/2001 7:40:32 PM EDT
[#18]
Speaking from personal experience...

Slingshot + Ice cubes = Speaker failure [:D]

Link Posted: 7/23/2001 7:48:02 PM EDT
[#19]
This is why I put my gun cleaning bench on the porch FACING the less savory neighbors. I made sure to not seem too friendly. When they first moved in they were doing mini keggers in the backyard at night. No problem, but just to make sure we understood each other I cleaned about 4 AKs and ALL my MP5s in full view of EVERYONE.

I didn't threaten anyone or say anything offensive. A few tried some friendly overtures but I just nodded to acknowledge their presence and went back to cleaning with lots of testing the actions.

We understood each other. I don't screw with them and they haven't been a problem. They are a little unsure of me and that is how I want it. The father gave the younger kid a huge ration of shit one day when the radio was just a little too loud. He seemed concerned about not offending the neighbors. The father gets it....

On a side note, as a law school student who is probably NEVER home, my solution may not work for you. If you advertise firearm ownership and a frequently empty house in a bad neighborhood you will get a different kind of reaction. On the other hand if someone is always home, you may want to get a picnic table for your back yard and start maintaining the ARs. Provide your own source of music at the same time. Put the biggest speakers you can muster in the window next to you and POUND something truly obnoxious. Maybe they will come over and politely ask you to turn it down.
Link Posted: 7/23/2001 7:53:40 PM EDT
[#20]
And PLEASE DO NOT discharge a firearm in your neighborhood shooting speakers or anything else.

YOU will be arrested, your house robbed while your in jail and be used as yet another example of why people shouldn't have guns. If you are a clean cut white kid going to law school, even worse. You WILL be toast.

If you are even thinking about a pellet gun/paintball gun solution be damn sure about your concealment and position. As soon as it happens they WILL know it's YOU and start looking for you. Don't get seen and don't get caught. And retaliation WILL happen.
Link Posted: 7/23/2001 9:48:04 PM EDT
[#21]
Okay, I gotta weigh in on this one.  

I live across the street from a freeway, half a mile from an airport, and am directly over a flight path.  I know noise and can deal with it.

I just graduated from a small town (10,000 people & 10,000 students) college.  When you're studying for exams and the like, even GOOD music is annoying.

Scipio, I'm in your corner.  

How did I handle my problems?  I played the following and REALLY cranked it...

1.  Metallica.  "So What."  Play it LOUD.  (If you're not familiar with lyrics, go to [url]http://www.stormpages.com/lyrics/text/so_what.html[/url].

2.  "Music Of Indonesia 3: Music From The Outskirts Of Jakarta"  (See [url]http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000001DIU/qid=995952840/sr=2-1/ref=aps_sr_pm_1_1/102-8162909-7221755[/url].)

3.  Anything by Pantera, Slayer, GWAR, or Deicide.

4.  Anything by Tiny Tim played ON REPEAT.

I also borrowed a friend's burned copy of Weird Al Yankovic songs once, but it didn't work as well as my earlier attempts.

Good luck, Scipio.  I hope you're able to handle this to your satisfaction.

[b]C-rock[/b], no flames here.  Normally, I agree with you.  But, no matter what type of music is played, it should only be heard by those playing it.  I gotta disagree with you on this one.

Mike
Link Posted: 7/23/2001 10:47:03 PM EDT
[#22]
You buy some good ear plugs, good speakers and a amp. and play Classical Music really LOUD!!!
You do this EVERYTIME you hear them playing their SALSA music..THEN to top them..you play it LOUD about 1 hour after they turn off their lights to go to sleep.
Link Posted: 7/23/2001 10:52:46 PM EDT
[#23]
Play Wagner's Die Walkure real loud while cleaning an AR15 outside on your porch.

Get your "I luv the smell of napalm in the morning look" and matching cavalry hat.

Two things will happen, things will turn very quiet or you'll leave the premises in a straightjacket. [:D]
Link Posted: 7/23/2001 11:52:04 PM EDT
[#24]
Scipio,sir your first words on this matter were:
[b]"I live in a pretty shitty neighborhood because the rent is cheap and it is really close to my law school."[/b]Are you planning on living in this neighborhood when you graduate from law school? Is this the area where you plan to practice law? If the answer to either of these questions is no,then you're just a guest passing through their "hood".Just think how lucky you are to have the possibility of a high paying job in your future.
 [b]"consistantly blast salsa music from their speakers on their porch. They play it in the mornings...sometimes as early as 7:00am, on weekends, sundays, and holidays! They also play it sometimes late at night.[/b]Is it possible that they were doing this long before you moved in? so they should now change their lifestyle to accommodate you? Just be glad it's not gunfire.
[b]"I have approached them as a gentleman on three occassions and was completely blown off. I have even tried filing complaints with the police."[/b]I'm sure complaints to the law go over real well in that "hood".
 [b]I take what they are doing very personally since I have politely asked them to lower it numerous times.[/b]Hmmm,so they play their music loud and party to all hours of the morning just to piss you off?
  [b]"I'm sick of being taken advantage of like this and want to take action... Question is, what should I do???"[/b]You're the guy in law school,try going to the law library and cracking a book open,see what ,if any legal recourses you may have.My advice would be to get a ice cold case of beer the next time they're partying and join them,try to make friends with them.that would go a lot further in getting them to tone it down a bit then filing complaint with the cops.not any flame here,just my $0.02 mmk
Link Posted: 7/24/2001 1:15:16 AM EDT
[#25]
I have seen SteyrAugs approach work firsthand. 5150BRY used to live in a bad 'hood.His home was always occupied, and all the whitetrashhonkeycrackers(including me) used to clean our ARs and AKs on the trucks tailgate in the parking lot. Always friendly and neighborly, we explained to passing cops and folks that the solvent was overpowering indoors.
The Salsa offenders were usually pretty nice to ALL occupants of the house, and very few needed further persuasion to behave like civilized people.
How come the PC black and hispanics aren't rushing to condemn C-Rocks use of "racially offensive" language? No moderator lockdown? No heartfelt, bleeding heart apologies for offending whitey?
Link Posted: 7/24/2001 5:19:03 AM EDT
[#26]
I guess I need to speak up in my own behalf.  First, I disagreed with you all, and I was willing to defend my points. Then I get personally attacked and threatened. Fine, say you are going to break my hands, arms, send me to the hospital. What the fuck you think I am going to say.    

Having a problem with me saying I would pick up my gun, if a stranger threaten me with physical harm?  I think you are on the wrong site.  If anyone said they were going to find your home, you say the same thing.  

I dont bug anyone in my neighborhood, nor do I get the same back.  
I also don't advocate attacking someone, because they are playing different music that I don't like. Also say shit like that cause they are of a different race or culture.  

One more thing, fuck PC, and that.  I called them crackers and such, cause that is what they are.  

Also, I don't care if you know what I look like, nor I am a pussy to hide behind a keyboard to speak up and advocate attacking someone.  
If this was in person, I would of said the same thing. I would of called you a little old lady,  and such.  

Anyways, give me as much shit as you want. And if you still have a problem with me, so be it.  I will still be posting on this board.
Link Posted: 7/24/2001 5:33:11 AM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:

I dont bug anyone in my neighborhood, nor do I get the same back.  
I also don't advocate attacking someone, because they are playing different music that I don't like. Also say shit like that cause they are of a different race or culture.  

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c-rock, i don't have a problem with you. i still disagree with what you say, Scipio and others have stated repeatedly that even music they LIKE would annoy them at 3:00 in the morning on a week-night. they (at least at first) did not attack the culture that listens to salsa, just when they chose to enjoy it! and if you don't give your neighbors $hit, and they don't give you $hit, then i just see that neighborhood spiraling downward toward everyone's stereotypical ghetto-sess-pool. everyone playing load music - acceptable. everyone littering and vandalizing - acceptable. BUT, asking someone to respect his neighbors? UNACCEPTABLE. what is up with that? i'm SURE that Scipio is not the only one in the 'hood who works/studies/has a life - and even if he is passing through, those loud people should have respect for eachother...how will they ever get respect from us???
Link Posted: 7/24/2001 5:44:12 AM EDT
[#28]
Link Posted: 7/24/2001 5:50:21 AM EDT
[#29]
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Or quit being a big bitch, and close your windows.  So what if they play loud music?  They are enjoying the nice weather, having some beers, and having fun.
Maybe its not your type of music, but what harm are they doing?  Its not like they are selling drugs, or such. Just having fun.

So, quit being a Punk Bitch, and close your windows.  Turn on the AC.
c-rock
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Why should the poster have to cower in his apt. because he has rude neighbors? Certainly theres some room for give and take, but if it's an on-going problem, it needs to be addressed through the legal channels if the neighbors wont cooperate to peaceful discussion.
Link Posted: 7/24/2001 6:07:41 AM EDT
[#30]
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I have approached them as a gentleman on three occassions and was completely blown off.  I have even tried filing complaints with the police, but they don't want to do shit about it because i guess they don't care what the hell happens in neighborhoods like mine
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...if it's an on-going problem, it needs to be addressed through the legal channels if the neighbors wont cooperate to peaceful discussion.
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You can see from Scipio's original post that he tried the legal channels. Now it's time for the more...creative channels. If it's not against the law, or at least the law according to the policemen who responded to his original complaint, to blast music, why should anyone mind air raid sirens, dying rabbits or a different kind of music.

I recommend Pantera.

FMCDH
Semper Fidelis
Jarhead out.

Link Posted: 7/24/2001 6:27:33 AM EDT
[#31]
Post signs in Spanish in the neighborhood stating that INS will be conducting inspections in the area looking for illegals to deport for the next 6 months.  Then buy a navy windbreaker and paint INS on the back and hang it from the fence or on a car seat.
Link Posted: 7/24/2001 6:44:27 AM EDT
[#32]
No, it is not THEIR neighborhood. If they want their own fucking place ship them and their head lice back to wherever THEY came from.

He has every right to not want to listen to their shit music. Does he make them listen to his?

I say go there, and politely hold their head down to the deck with your boot on their neck, and in a calm manner bash their fucking heads in with the stock of a shotgun. Then I suggest turning down the volume of their radio by one blast of 00 buck.

Close his windows? You asshole. Maybe he wants fresh air, maybe he doesn't like stale air in his place. If theses pieces of shit like their nacho music then they can BUY SOME FUCKING HEADPHONES!

I had the same problem with stupid okies nextdoor listening to their Garth Brooks and Green Day (what a combo). After I made it clear I wasn't going to put up with their shit they stopped.

This all comming from someone that played in garage bands through high school.
Link Posted: 7/24/2001 6:53:22 AM EDT
[#33]
People threatening other people with the use of violence because they cant work it out is one reason we have so many f$^*ked up laws in this country.  Saying you are going to grab a gun to back up your words is just more fuel for the anti-gunners.  Be a little more intelligent people, be creative as long as it isn't illegal or going to get someone hurt or as people have posted....move somewhere else.

I am not supporting your neighbors playing their music loud at all hours as I have had this problem where I live.  But I did seem to work it out, at least for the time being.  If and when it happens again I will deal with it in an ADULT manner.

sorry for ranting

my .02

Link Posted: 7/24/2001 7:07:12 AM EDT
[#34]
They can't be reasoned with. Holding their pets hostage is the only answer.

ahaha!
Link Posted: 7/24/2001 7:16:11 AM EDT
[#35]
Link Posted: 7/24/2001 8:35:50 AM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
[b]I guess I need to speak up in my own behalf.  First, I disagreed with you all, and I was willing to defend my points. Then I get personally attacked and threatened. Fine, say you are going to break my hands, arms, send me to the hospital. What the fuck you think I am going to say.    

Having a problem with me saying I would pick up my gun, if a stranger threaten me with physical harm?  I think you are on the wrong site.  If anyone said they were going to find your home, you say the same thing.  

I dont bug anyone in my neighborhood, nor do I get the same back.  
I also don't advocate attacking someone, because they are playing different music that I don't like. Also say shit like that cause they are of a different race or culture.  

One more thing, fuck PC, and that.  I called them crackers and such, cause that is what they are.  

[Also, I don't care if you know what I look like, nor I am a pussy to hide behind a keyboard to speak up and advocate attacking someone.  
If this was in person, I would of said the same thing. I would of called you a little old lady,  and such.  

Anyways, give me as much shit as you want. And if you still have a problem with me, so be it.  I will still be posting on this board.][/b]




C-ROCK,
I agree with you one hundred percent about the fact that if someone threatened me, in self defense if need be, a firearm would be an option.  The difference here is that you provoked NIGHTHAWK and invited him up.  You were butting chests with each other, he accepted your invitation, and then you said  "C-ROCK DOES NOT CALL THE COPS, HE CALLS ON MR. S&W OR MRS. MOSSY"  "YOU WILL END UP IN A BODY BAG" Hey you both put each other down for opposing views, the difference is you starting calling people "PUNK BITCH"  "CRACKER" and so on.  The origial post was not inflamitory at all untill you chimmed in.  I am not taking side, I don't know either of you from Adam.  All I am trying to convey is that your threats of gun use are in very poor judgement.  If you want to talk the talk, then you better walk the walk.  Owning a gun does not make you a bad ass.  You have to earn that title.
just my .02  
Link Posted: 7/24/2001 2:28:27 PM EDT
[#37]
This thread is still up?? I'm surprised with all the threatening and racist remarks..lol You can finally get some sleep and put the S&W away c-rock, your not worth my time or gas money..lol And dude, lose the bayo on the shotgun, its embarising..lol All my point was, is I don't have respect for others who don't respect me. Playing that music at all hours of the night is disrespectful plain and simple. If you want to listen to it at 2am thats fine, thats what they make headphones for. Thats the biggest problem with the world today, noone respects anyone else.
Link Posted: 7/24/2001 2:35:39 PM EDT
[#38]
A high powered pellet rifle,if fired to the right spot of the speakers,at night of course,will do the trick.Been there and did that.
Link Posted: 7/24/2001 2:59:19 PM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
Now I lived at the far end of a runway that Harriers took off from on afterburner nearly everyday, so loud is no problem.
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Not to be picky....but the AV-8 (A or B models) Harrier does not HAVE an afterburner.  They are, however, extremely loud when they take off and/or land, so your point is still valid.

just my .02
Link Posted: 7/24/2001 7:36:26 PM EDT
[#40]
You silly kids keep on fighting, and someone's gonna get hurt.

>c-rock, get anger counseling and sell your guns..please.

*** GUNS DONT KILL PEOPLE, C-ROCK DOES ***
Link Posted: 7/24/2001 8:08:28 PM EDT
[#41]
I don't have any neighbors.

Edit: I'm also lucky enough to have a 200 yard
rifle range on my property.
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