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My mom is headed back to Wash DC for a big Daughters of American Revolution get together/meeting next week. We also belong to the Mayflower society. To join those two groups your family line has to be very well documented and recorded both at the DAR and Mayflower archives
When my daughter was approaching college age I asked if we had any Native American blood (hoping for a free education ) Her response? Nope. Not a chance. |
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Dennis Hopper gave an insightful dissertation on ancestry in a movie named True Romance.
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I've heard the native American thing from a bunch of people, with nothing backing it up other than the stories. There has to be some underlying mxn or reason behind all the bullshitting about it. View Quote |
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Then you had a million hippies decide that Indians were cool and claim to have some blood.
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My grandma always said that was a way for families to cover up the "black sheep" of the family... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I've heard the native American thing from a bunch of people, with nothing backing it up other than the stories. There has to be some underlying mxn or reason behind all the bullshitting about it. |
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Lot's of families have a 'native american' ancestor story. While a lot of them are not true, realize that autosomal dna tests like ancestry are only accurate to about 6 or 7 generations, about your 5th great grandparent, so it is possible to have NA ancestors, but you have so little of their dna it becomes part of the background noise (you share about 3% DNA with that 5th great GP, half that with your 6th).
As far a court house burnings, maybe Yankees, but more likely due to land disputes, burn the courthouse and you burn the deeds. |
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I actually do have a distant relative back in the day that married a full blooded abo... but they didn't have any kids.
I am 100% American euromutt. |
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Friend of mine says hes related to sitting bull and his wife to Pocahontas pretty sure its bs ill see if they will take the test
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A lot of people think they're of Native ancestry. Most of those people have never actually met Natives. I'll leave it at that.
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Just for shits and giggles I did the full $200.23 and me saliva test. Waiting for my results. Should be back in a week or two.
This stuff kind of interests me. We've all heard stories about where we were from and my understanding is Ukrainian Irish German and they small amount of American Indian. I will post back my actual results. I will tell you one thing, I have the super super super super hots for any woman that is blonde and or of Polish/Russian dissent or accent. I don't care how hot they apprar but no Italian woman or dark-haired Greek woman will ever turned me on. |
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@Maynard
This tickles my fancy. The wailing and gnashing will be epic |
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I did it too. Turned out I'm less than 1% Senegalese. I'm packing up to go to Harvard University to demand a minority faculty position. View Quote |
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Next time you're at Lima you'll have to give yankee43 and me a report on the family festivities!
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George Washington is my great, great, great, etc. grampa. Abraham Lincoln was a great, great etc. uncle and there is a long list of other great men in my family chain. Are you saying this could be incorrect? Jesse James actually was my great, great, great grandfather according to my grandfather. He had a huge collection of memorabilia so I believe he believed it to be true. Not sure if that is something to be proud of or not anyway. View Quote |
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I did the complete 23andme test back when they also reported health related tendencies. The ancestor part jibbed exactly with what my parents said; I'm UK plus northern, central, and eastern European. Zero NA, Africa, southern Europe, and Asia. As for health, I'm going to die from any number of typical things unless I have a fatal accident first.
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/284452/IMG-0133-233653.JPG Was told I was Sicilian, German, and Irish. I would say my results fit that. View Quote |
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George Washington had no kids. His wife had a kid already when he married her. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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George Washington is my great, great, great, etc. grampa. Abraham Lincoln was a great, great etc. uncle and there is a long list of other great men in my family chain. Are you saying this could be incorrect? Jesse James actually was my great, great, great grandfather according to my grandfather. He had a huge collection of memorabilia so I believe he believed it to be true. Not sure if that is something to be proud of or not anyway. |
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I took both the 23&me and the ancestry DNA tests. I wanted to be able to compare the two to see if there were any differences. They were slightly different, so I'm assuming the algorithms they use are different as well. An example is that Ancestry says I'm 40% Scandinavian while 23&me says 10%. Of course 23&me also claims 37% Broadly Northwestern European, which in my mind covers a pretty wide swath. For comparison for those of you who may be interested in having this done, my results from each:
23&me: British and Irish: 34.6% French and German: 12.9% Scandinavian: 10.2% Broadly Northwestern European: 37.1% Eastern European: 0.6% Ashkenazi Jewish: 0.2% Broadly European: 4.3% Everything else was <0.1% Ancestry: Scandinavia: 39% Europe West: 29% Ireland: 13% Great Britain: 7% Iberian Peninsula: 7% Europe East: 2% Caucasus: 1% Based on research my biological father (I'm adopted) has done, the ancestry one seems closer in that my paternal ancestors emigrated from Sweden to the United States in the 1880s. |
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My brother and I did it the old fashion way, birth , marriage, death, and Immigration records
100% Italian back 5 generations.Both sides, Nobody famous, one gangster gunned down in the 20`s was the only exciting thing we found. |
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wife went thru the same thing. Grandmother was born in Indian Territory, before Oklahoma became a state.
Family had a picture of a "Family reunion" around the end of WW2..there wasn't a white man in the bunch. Every face, every strain of hair and overall presentation of the pic just said a group of 1st peoples getting together. So her Grandma was an Indian, a by GOD Cherokee....a mere 2 generations back, Noble Redman must have fled her gene pool at birth. 80% British Island, 13% Irish, the rest mixed eastern European. I was 83% British with 13% Mick thrown in and the rest Portugal/Spain, our family legend includes a middle name of my great grandfather. Monzoni and great great gran pater famila was a Dago, not so much...my brother who lives and breathes Italian food, married a 1/2 Italian import and even speaks Italian denies it... |
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LOL...here's a hint: they're all native americans. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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If you were in the military or if you go to the VA, then it's already on file. So embracing my Senegalese ancestry... whur muh repu-rations? Ah wants sum now! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Would you please source your assertions? When many of us were in the military there was no DNA test. Regarding the VA, please provide verifiable evidence. View Quote At least that's what they told us they were doing. I still think that there is a warehouse somewhere storing a platoon of Super Marines that look just like me. |
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The ethnic estimates are not an exact science, they are guesses based on comparisons with other samples.
For years there were Americans showing significant Middle Eastern in ethnic tests. It was just bad science. It turns out that since Middle Easterners are a mixture of Europeans, Asians, and Africans, an American with a similar mix could get a false positive as a ME. Also, there is actually very little Native American dna to compare with as few have taken tests and many NA also have mixtures of other races, such as European and African, further complicating tests. Not showing any Native American in any of the current ethnic tests is not proof you are not NA. Some people born with Native American features show 0% NA in ethnic tests, while their cousin with blue eyes and blond hair show significant NA. Current autosomal dna tests do not cover all your dna. They just test a little piece for a cheap ethnic estimate. |
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It is true... https://www.copblock.org/145589/paying-to-add-your-dna-to-a-government-database-via-ancestry-com-and-23andme/ View Quote |
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My wife and I did it too, both of us are 99.9% whitey. Both families have "native American" stories too, which as it turns out were complete bullshit.
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I'm beginning to wonder if ANY of these family "Indian ancestry" tales are true.
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I don't understand why people desperately want to claim Native American lineage.
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Does this mean I can hate on the 'Man'?
You have more Neanderthal variants than 99% of 23andMe customers. View Quote |
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Same thing happened to me. Both sides of my family claimed Native American heritage but I came back 0%. Over the years I've done a bit of geneological research and could never find any evidence of Native ancestry and the DNA just confirms it. I do think my mom's side has something else mixed in there because several people are pretty dark in complexion and I recently found a photo of the couple I had narrowed down as the likeliest source of Native ancestry. She's as European as I am but he looks like he has Indian (India) ancestry, or at least Southern European. My DNA has trace elements from Northern Africa, the Middle East, Greece/Italy, Spain and Polynesia This is the couple. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/42575/Houston-Lafayette-Jewell-and-Eliza-Beshears-233623.JPG View Quote 100% Crazy Eyes |
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My brother did his (his wife is a part time genealogist).
It matches up with the family stories. Mom is 100% Italian (or Sicilian) with some Arab, African and European tossed into the mix. Dad is a Swedish / Norwegian 50/50 mix with some Brit, Irish, and German tossed into the mix. Mom's ancestry can be traced back until the mid 1500's. My SIL traced it back, a Uncle and an Aunt went to Sicily and found records in government and church files. Dad's ancestry can be traced back to the late 1700's. My dad's name was anglicized in the mid 1900's by his father after he immigrated to the US. Me and my brothers have always wanted to change it back. |
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