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Posted: 3/13/2021 3:25:09 PM EDT
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Wouldn't the assessor plots cover what land is theirs?
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Posted: 3/13/2021 4:02:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can have someone arrested for traspassing in a boat above your submerged land down here That statement sounds too broad to be accurate... Why wouldn't that conflict with the Federal Navigable Waterways? |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 4:11:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Florida and waterway/beach access can be really goofy. Don't live on the beach or a navigable river/stream if you don't want headaches. Still... Dev. Is looking to get ded-ed with this shit. Beyond a reasonable doubt would be hard when so many have a motive. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 4:25:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryHoly shit, I've never seen that... and some people really want to say people don't need semi automatic magazine fed rifles, the police will protect you. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 4:39:48 PM EDT
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Even if the developers screwed this up the current owners have been there so long that I’d think that they own the land now through adverse possession. As to the use of the canal would be covered by a prescriptive easement.
Not an attorney, not legal advice. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 4:40:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol. That's how you get murdered Succinct. 
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Posted: 3/13/2021 5:12:20 PM EDT
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I know this is happening a mile south of it but Hillsboro mile used to have some organized crime figures living there. I remember reading about one that was suspected of killing Hoffa.
I wonder if people do background checks on their victims before pulling a scam like that. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 5:19:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Used to go surf fishing there before Pompano sold it. Wasn’t there a small pavilion and a small lake fed from the ocean with bridge across it? My father lives within walking distance right off 14th. I kind of remember it as a kid. I see the lake on satellite view but don’t see to lot or pavilion. Map says north ocean park is still there it just looks like they got rid of the parking. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 5:26:19 PM EDT
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Inm not reading the article but it sounds like some shit a Chinese company would try and pull.
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Posted: 3/13/2021 5:26:29 PM EDT
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From reading the article I get the impression that the original developer dug the canal and kept the deed for that part of the property.
This guy appears to have bought that deed/deeds and since the property was originally "dry" he's asserting rights over it. If the canal is man made and the original deeds didn't explicitly convey any access rights, could the current owner have the right to deny access? I don't know anything about Florida law, I'm only going with assumptions here, but might he have a good argument, "legally". |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 5:30:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll bookmark this thread for the next time the TBL gets outraged that people say bad things about cops, and demands proof when we point out that people say bad things about other professions too. I bet not one single lawyer reports any of the nasty comments about lawyers. But if we replaced "lawyers" with "cops" in those posts, the TBL would send up multiple blue star clusters and mods would lock the thread.  We'll call it The @Akodo Effect. People made comments joking about how she was a female attorney so ha ha fuck her. No warnings, no locks. She was female and an attorney so it was okay to joke about her getting beaten up. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 5:53:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: This is why people hate attorneys "For $150,000 my client will let you use your dock" Attorneys are scum We also rarely have our offices burned down by angry mobs. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/temp-96.gif 
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Posted: 3/13/2021 7:23:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: After reading the article that guy is a grifter and a swindler. He buys underwater properties and uses incorrect surveys to place a claim and sure adjoining properties for millions and settles for thousands. Someone should make him go sleep on his property permanently... you know, with the fishes. We had a guy try something similar on some client lands. He buys a small parcel next to our 8,000 acre tract. All of a sudden says he owns this slice of our land, that amazingly gives him half our public road frontage. They told me to go out there and meet him, after a fruitless discussion about how he thinks the line runs is impossible within the physical world in which we live, I finally said "Do what you gotta do. But you're wrong. And the people you're fighting own 1.5 million acres in this country and have a whole office full of lawyers who have nothing better to do than fight guys like you. I'm going to write a file memo about our conversation when I get back and will send it to Legal. Have a nice day!" |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 7:24:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Until you need one. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This is why people hate attorneys “For $150,000 my client will let you use your dock” Attorneys are scum Until you need one. YOu typically don't need one until you are being fucked by one. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 7:32:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would love to see his title chain. As I understand it, the State of Florida owns submerged lands, and has owned them since Florida became a State. They have ceded those rights to other political subdivisions (counties) if the county can show a public purpose/use (Port Authority is one type.) You know, it just struck me and my business deals with land legal issues all the time: In this country we have a strong body of law that protects private ownership of dry land but almost exclusively rejects private ownership of submerged lands. Why is that? |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 8:05:57 PM EDT
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The USCG still does burials at sea. No one said the guy had to be deaded....
 
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Posted: 3/13/2021 8:07:43 PM EDT
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How’s my title insurance bro’?
Insurance companies will duke it out. Years. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 8:19:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You know, it just struck me and my business deals with land legal issues all the time: In this country we have a strong body of law that protects private ownership of dry land but almost exclusively rejects private ownership of submerged lands. Why is that? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I would love to see his title chain. As I understand it, the State of Florida owns submerged lands, and has owned them since Florida became a State. They have ceded those rights to other political subdivisions (counties) if the county can show a public purpose/use (Port Authority is one type.) You know, it just struck me and my business deals with land legal issues all the time: In this country we have a strong body of law that protects private ownership of dry land but almost exclusively rejects private ownership of submerged lands. Why is that? The short answer is to promote commerce via navigation. Here's an in depth analysis from Florida's point of view. https://ir.law.fsu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1715&context=lr The Florida Bar's explanation. https://www.floridabar.org/the-florida-bar-journal/sovereignty-lands-in-florida-its-all-about-navigability-part-i/ https://www.floridabar.org/the-florida-bar-journal/sovereignty-lands-in-florida-its-all-about-navigability-part-ii/ |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 8:22:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is why people hate attorneys “For $150,000 my client will let you use your dock” Attorneys are scum Attorneys are mouth pieces for clients. The client here is the scum. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 8:26:41 PM EDT
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Open Midnight pass!
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Posted: 3/13/2021 8:40:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wouldn't the assessor plots cover what land is theirs? Tax maps aren't legal descriptions. The Assessor will be the first to tell you that. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 8:42:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That statement sounds too broad to be accurate... Why wouldn't that conflict with the Federal Navigable Waterways? We've got some Kings Grant trout waters that the State Supremes ruled are indeed private submerged lands and access to the waters can be prohibited by the owners. VDGIF hates that ruling. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 8:44:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some title insurance companies are going to take a hit. First thing will be a survey... developers say lots of things... title deeds often disagree. Then we have that whole adverse possession thing. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 8:47:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The short answer is to promote commerce via navigation. Here's an in depth analysis from Florida's point of view. https://ir.law.fsu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1715&context=lr The Florida Bar's explanation. https://www.floridabar.org/the-florida-bar-journal/sovereignty-lands-in-florida-its-all-about-navigability-part-i/ https://www.floridabar.org/the-florida-bar-journal/sovereignty-lands-in-florida-its-all-about-navigability-part-ii/ Ah. Now it makes sense. Same way that roads are generally public property. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 8:54:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The USCG still does burials at sea. No one said the guy had to be deaded.... I'm gonna have my guys dump my ashes from a CG H60. And bring a shopvac |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 9:13:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is why people hate attorneys “For $150,000 my client will let you use your dock” Attorneys are scum People really do hate attorneys. No group has ever been as polarizing. Angry people demonstrated all over the country in 2020 because of attorneys. The term "ACAB" stands for "all attorneys are bad." They have such a bad image. It would suck to be an attorney. Thank God the pay is good and you can set your own hours, or nobody would even do it. Everybody would just skip an advanced degree and get an hourly, union job. On topic, there wasn't enough information to determine whether this was a legitimate or illegitimate claim on the property in question in the article. So any reaction has its basis in emotion, not law. That never happens.  |
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