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Struggled with two officers while trying to escape and then was shot while trying to gouge out one officers eyes. Good shoot. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Also, a bullshit shoot. The guy is out of his cuffs in a cage? Shut the fucking door and regroup. it is the determination of this office that there was insufficient time to formulate any criminal intent. We find no criminal wrongdoing in the use of deadly force by the officer who was being attacked by the suspect. Me? Contain the threat. Keep the door closed. Roll a rear window down a bit, and taze the guy. No tazer? Ok. Keep the door closed and wait for my co-worker to assist in extracting the suspect and re-applying restraints. Nobody had to get shot in this incident. The suspect nor the other employee. Back to my point, leave the doors closed and take a minute to think about the problem, instead of the old 'everything looks like a nail' solution. In a video released by the prosecutor's office, the officer could be heard asking "What are you doing?" before exiting the driver's side and going to the rear driver's side door of the police vehicle. During the same time, before the officer enters the back seat, the vehicle began to move as if there was a commotion in the back seat. The back-passenger side door could be seen recoiling from some sort of impact from inside of the vehicle.
According to the prosecutor's office, when the officer entered the vehicle to restrain Jabbari, he was immediately attacked by Jabbari, who gouged at the officer's eyes. A struggle ensued that lasted a few seconds when another officer appeared and tried to help subdue Jabbari from the rear passenger-side of the police vehicle. In the video, that officer, who also has not been named, opened the door and grabbed Jabbari seconds before several shots were fired. The officer immediately retreated as he was shot in the arm. Did you watch the video? ...or are you here just to offer support for a random Joe who happens to have the same occupation as you? Let me ask you this - When you play this scenario out in your mind, with yourself involved; does the suspect end up dead? |
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There is only one witness alive, that was in the car. The co-worker showed up just in time to get clipped by the shooter. Did you watch the video? ...or are you here just to offer support for a random Joe who happens to have the same occupation as you? Let me ask you this - When you play this scenario out in your mind, with yourself involved; does the suspect end up dead? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Also, a bullshit shoot. The guy is out of his cuffs in a cage? Shut the fucking door and regroup. it is the determination of this office that there was insufficient time to formulate any criminal intent. We find no criminal wrongdoing in the use of deadly force by the officer who was being attacked by the suspect. Me? Contain the threat. Keep the door closed. Roll a rear window down a bit, and taze the guy. No tazer? Ok. Keep the door closed and wait for my co-worker to assist in extracting the suspect and re-applying restraints. Nobody had to get shot in this incident. The suspect nor the other employee. Back to my point, leave the doors closed and take a minute to think about the problem, instead of the old 'everything looks like a nail' solution. In a video released by the prosecutor's office, the officer could be heard asking "What are you doing?" before exiting the driver's side and going to the rear driver's side door of the police vehicle. During the same time, before the officer enters the back seat, the vehicle began to move as if there was a commotion in the back seat. The back-passenger side door could be seen recoiling from some sort of impact from inside of the vehicle.
According to the prosecutor's office, when the officer entered the vehicle to restrain Jabbari, he was immediately attacked by Jabbari, who gouged at the officer's eyes. A struggle ensued that lasted a few seconds when another officer appeared and tried to help subdue Jabbari from the rear passenger-side of the police vehicle. In the video, that officer, who also has not been named, opened the door and grabbed Jabbari seconds before several shots were fired. The officer immediately retreated as he was shot in the arm. Did you watch the video? ...or are you here just to offer support for a random Joe who happens to have the same occupation as you? Let me ask you this - When you play this scenario out in your mind, with yourself involved; does the suspect end up dead? |
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Yes. If some guy tries to gouge my eyes out while I attempt to restrain him for a lawful arrest I will shoot him and stop him. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Also, a bullshit shoot. The guy is out of his cuffs in a cage? Shut the fucking door and regroup. it is the determination of this office that there was insufficient time to formulate any criminal intent. We find no criminal wrongdoing in the use of deadly force by the officer who was being attacked by the suspect. Me? Contain the threat. Keep the door closed. Roll a rear window down a bit, and taze the guy. No tazer? Ok. Keep the door closed and wait for my co-worker to assist in extracting the suspect and re-applying restraints. Nobody had to get shot in this incident. The suspect nor the other employee. Back to my point, leave the doors closed and take a minute to think about the problem, instead of the old 'everything looks like a nail' solution. In a video released by the prosecutor's office, the officer could be heard asking "What are you doing?" before exiting the driver's side and going to the rear driver's side door of the police vehicle. During the same time, before the officer enters the back seat, the vehicle began to move as if there was a commotion in the back seat. The back-passenger side door could be seen recoiling from some sort of impact from inside of the vehicle.
According to the prosecutor's office, when the officer entered the vehicle to restrain Jabbari, he was immediately attacked by Jabbari, who gouged at the officer's eyes. A struggle ensued that lasted a few seconds when another officer appeared and tried to help subdue Jabbari from the rear passenger-side of the police vehicle. In the video, that officer, who also has not been named, opened the door and grabbed Jabbari seconds before several shots were fired. The officer immediately retreated as he was shot in the arm. Did you watch the video? ...or are you here just to offer support for a random Joe who happens to have the same occupation as you? Let me ask you this - When you play this scenario out in your mind, with yourself involved; does the suspect end up dead? If that is the case, I'm really going to have to wonder about the 9 cop dogpile while apprehending a suspect after a car chase has halted. ...when you only need one |
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So, before I disengage from this topic - Just to be clear, you would 'cowboy' into the cage with an unrestrained subject by yourself in a similar situation? Knowing you have someone else to assist, 3 meters away... If that is the case, I'm really going to have to wonder about the 9 cop dogpile while apprehending a suspect after a car chase has halted. ...when you only need one View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Also, a bullshit shoot. The guy is out of his cuffs in a cage? Shut the fucking door and regroup. it is the determination of this office that there was insufficient time to formulate any criminal intent. We find no criminal wrongdoing in the use of deadly force by the officer who was being attacked by the suspect. Me? Contain the threat. Keep the door closed. Roll a rear window down a bit, and taze the guy. No tazer? Ok. Keep the door closed and wait for my co-worker to assist in extracting the suspect and re-applying restraints. Nobody had to get shot in this incident. The suspect nor the other employee. Back to my point, leave the doors closed and take a minute to think about the problem, instead of the old 'everything looks like a nail' solution. In a video released by the prosecutor's office, the officer could be heard asking "What are you doing?" before exiting the driver's side and going to the rear driver's side door of the police vehicle. During the same time, before the officer enters the back seat, the vehicle began to move as if there was a commotion in the back seat. The back-passenger side door could be seen recoiling from some sort of impact from inside of the vehicle.
According to the prosecutor's office, when the officer entered the vehicle to restrain Jabbari, he was immediately attacked by Jabbari, who gouged at the officer's eyes. A struggle ensued that lasted a few seconds when another officer appeared and tried to help subdue Jabbari from the rear passenger-side of the police vehicle. In the video, that officer, who also has not been named, opened the door and grabbed Jabbari seconds before several shots were fired. The officer immediately retreated as he was shot in the arm. Did you watch the video? ...or are you here just to offer support for a random Joe who happens to have the same occupation as you? Let me ask you this - When you play this scenario out in your mind, with yourself involved; does the suspect end up dead? If that is the case, I'm really going to have to wonder about the 9 cop dogpile while apprehending a suspect after a car chase has halted. ...when you only need one |
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You're aware that there are officers and deputies that work by themselves, have no back up around, and or have areas that cover hundreds of square miles right? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Also, a bullshit shoot. The guy is out of his cuffs in a cage? Shut the fucking door and regroup. it is the determination of this office that there was insufficient time to formulate any criminal intent. We find no criminal wrongdoing in the use of deadly force by the officer who was being attacked by the suspect. Me? Contain the threat. Keep the door closed. Roll a rear window down a bit, and taze the guy. No tazer? Ok. Keep the door closed and wait for my co-worker to assist in extracting the suspect and re-applying restraints. Nobody had to get shot in this incident. The suspect nor the other employee. Back to my point, leave the doors closed and take a minute to think about the problem, instead of the old 'everything looks like a nail' solution. In a video released by the prosecutor's office, the officer could be heard asking "What are you doing?" before exiting the driver's side and going to the rear driver's side door of the police vehicle. During the same time, before the officer enters the back seat, the vehicle began to move as if there was a commotion in the back seat. The back-passenger side door could be seen recoiling from some sort of impact from inside of the vehicle.
According to the prosecutor's office, when the officer entered the vehicle to restrain Jabbari, he was immediately attacked by Jabbari, who gouged at the officer's eyes. A struggle ensued that lasted a few seconds when another officer appeared and tried to help subdue Jabbari from the rear passenger-side of the police vehicle. In the video, that officer, who also has not been named, opened the door and grabbed Jabbari seconds before several shots were fired. The officer immediately retreated as he was shot in the arm. Did you watch the video? ...or are you here just to offer support for a random Joe who happens to have the same occupation as you? Let me ask you this - When you play this scenario out in your mind, with yourself involved; does the suspect end up dead? If that is the case, I'm really going to have to wonder about the 9 cop dogpile while apprehending a suspect after a car chase has halted. ...when you only need one I added "in a similar situation" to my question. This was to prevent any deviation from the debated material, as you attempted above. |
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So, before I disengage from this topic - Just to be clear, you would 'cowboy' into the cage with an unrestrained subject by yourself in a similar situation? Knowing you have someone else to assist, 3 meters away... If that is the case, I'm really going to have to wonder about the 9 cop dogpile while apprehending a suspect after a car chase has halted. ...when you only need one View Quote The way I see it is that arresting officer saw something he didn't like, went back to see what was going on, and the suspect attacked him. You can't tell from the video what happened at that point but I give the benefit of the doubt to the officer. The less lethal thing is bullshit. If you don't want to get shot by the police then don't attack them. Pretty simple. |
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I am aware. I added "in a similar situation" to my question. This was to prevent any deviation from the debated material, as you attempted above. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Also, a bullshit shoot. The guy is out of his cuffs in a cage? Shut the fucking door and regroup. it is the determination of this office that there was insufficient time to formulate any criminal intent. We find no criminal wrongdoing in the use of deadly force by the officer who was being attacked by the suspect. Me? Contain the threat. Keep the door closed. Roll a rear window down a bit, and taze the guy. No tazer? Ok. Keep the door closed and wait for my co-worker to assist in extracting the suspect and re-applying restraints. Nobody had to get shot in this incident. The suspect nor the other employee. Back to my point, leave the doors closed and take a minute to think about the problem, instead of the old 'everything looks like a nail' solution. In a video released by the prosecutor's office, the officer could be heard asking "What are you doing?" before exiting the driver's side and going to the rear driver's side door of the police vehicle. During the same time, before the officer enters the back seat, the vehicle began to move as if there was a commotion in the back seat. The back-passenger side door could be seen recoiling from some sort of impact from inside of the vehicle.
According to the prosecutor's office, when the officer entered the vehicle to restrain Jabbari, he was immediately attacked by Jabbari, who gouged at the officer's eyes. A struggle ensued that lasted a few seconds when another officer appeared and tried to help subdue Jabbari from the rear passenger-side of the police vehicle. In the video, that officer, who also has not been named, opened the door and grabbed Jabbari seconds before several shots were fired. The officer immediately retreated as he was shot in the arm. Did you watch the video? ...or are you here just to offer support for a random Joe who happens to have the same occupation as you? Let me ask you this - When you play this scenario out in your mind, with yourself involved; does the suspect end up dead? If that is the case, I'm really going to have to wonder about the 9 cop dogpile while apprehending a suspect after a car chase has halted. ...when you only need one I added "in a similar situation" to my question. This was to prevent any deviation from the debated material, as you attempted above. |
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Good shoot. I don't think I'd put a tourney on his arm though. It was not an arterial bleed. That could cause more harm than good. View Quote New SOP to apply a tourniquet when in doubt. If there is even a question, tie it off. |
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Tourney's don't really do much harm unless you somehow manage to further increase the injury itself by applying it. The blood loss for that short of a period of time shouldn't have any ill effects. New SOP to apply a tourniquet when in doubt. If there is even a question, tie it off. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Good shoot. I don't think I'd put a tourney on his arm though. It was not an arterial bleed. That could cause more harm than good. New SOP to apply a tourniquet when in doubt. If there is even a question, tie it off. |
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It still doesn't matter. The suspect was trying to inflict GBH on an officer who was attempting re-restrain the suspect who was under arrest. The suspect still had a weapon on him, the cuffs, since his hands were free. It doesn't matter that the other officer was only involved for a few seconds before the shots went out. He was attempting to escape. Good shoot! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Also, a bullshit shoot. The guy is out of his cuffs in a cage? Shut the fucking door and regroup. it is the determination of this office that there was insufficient time to formulate any criminal intent. We find no criminal wrongdoing in the use of deadly force by the officer who was being attacked by the suspect. Me? Contain the threat. Keep the door closed. Roll a rear window down a bit, and taze the guy. No tazer? Ok. Keep the door closed and wait for my co-worker to assist in extracting the suspect and re-applying restraints. Nobody had to get shot in this incident. The suspect nor the other employee. Back to my point, leave the doors closed and take a minute to think about the problem, instead of the old 'everything looks like a nail' solution. In a video released by the prosecutor's office, the officer could be heard asking "What are you doing?" before exiting the driver's side and going to the rear driver's side door of the police vehicle. During the same time, before the officer enters the back seat, the vehicle began to move as if there was a commotion in the back seat. The back-passenger side door could be seen recoiling from some sort of impact from inside of the vehicle.
According to the prosecutor's office, when the officer entered the vehicle to restrain Jabbari, he was immediately attacked by Jabbari, who gouged at the officer's eyes. A struggle ensued that lasted a few seconds when another officer appeared and tried to help subdue Jabbari from the rear passenger-side of the police vehicle. In the video, that officer, who also has not been named, opened the door and grabbed Jabbari seconds before several shots were fired. The officer immediately retreated as he was shot in the arm. Did you watch the video? ...or are you here just to offer support for a random Joe who happens to have the same occupation as you? Let me ask you this - When you play this scenario out in your mind, with yourself involved; does the suspect end up dead? If that is the case, I'm really going to have to wonder about the 9 cop dogpile while apprehending a suspect after a car chase has halted. ...when you only need one I added "in a similar situation" to my question. This was to prevent any deviation from the debated material, as you attempted above. So, before I disengage from this topic - Just to be clear, you would 'cowboy' into the cage with an unrestrained subject by yourself in a similar situation? Knowing you have someone else to assist, 3 meters away... |
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Also, a bullshit shoot. The guy is out of his cuffs in a cage? Shut the fucking door and regroup. it is the determination of this office that there was insufficient time to formulate any criminal intent. We find no criminal wrongdoing in the use of deadly force by the officer who was being attacked by the suspect. Me? Contain the threat. Keep the door closed. Roll a rear window down a bit, and taze the guy. No tazer? Ok. Keep the door closed and wait for my co-worker to assist in extracting the suspect and re-applying restraints. Nobody had to get shot in this incident. The suspect nor the other employee. Back to my point, leave the doors closed and take a minute to think about the problem, instead of the old 'everything looks like a nail' solution. In a video released by the prosecutor's office, the officer could be heard asking "What are you doing?" before exiting the driver's side and going to the rear driver's side door of the police vehicle. During the same time, before the officer enters the back seat, the vehicle began to move as if there was a commotion in the back seat. The back-passenger side door could be seen recoiling from some sort of impact from inside of the vehicle.
According to the prosecutor's office, when the officer entered the vehicle to restrain Jabbari, he was immediately attacked by Jabbari, who gouged at the officer's eyes. A struggle ensued that lasted a few seconds when another officer appeared and tried to help subdue Jabbari from the rear passenger-side of the police vehicle. In the video, that officer, who also has not been named, opened the door and grabbed Jabbari seconds before several shots were fired. The officer immediately retreated as he was shot in the arm. Did you watch the video? ...or are you here just to offer support for a random Joe who happens to have the same occupation as you? Let me ask you this - When you play this scenario out in your mind, with yourself involved; does the suspect end up dead? If that is the case, I'm really going to have to wonder about the 9 cop dogpile while apprehending a suspect after a car chase has halted. ...when you only need one I added "in a similar situation" to my question. This was to prevent any deviation from the debated material, as you attempted above. So, before I disengage from this topic - Just to be clear, you would 'cowboy' into the cage with an unrestrained subject by yourself in a similar situation? Knowing you have someone else to assist, 3 meters away... |
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Also, a bullshit shoot. The guy is out of his cuffs in a cage? Shut the fucking door and regroup. it is the determination of this office that there was insufficient time to formulate any criminal intent. We find no criminal wrongdoing in the use of deadly force by the officer who was being attacked by the suspect. Me? Contain the threat. Keep the door closed. Roll a rear window down a bit, and taze the guy. No tazer? Ok. Keep the door closed and wait for my co-worker to assist in extracting the suspect and re-applying restraints. Nobody had to get shot in this incident. The suspect nor the other employee. Back to my point, leave the doors closed and take a minute to think about the problem, instead of the old 'everything looks like a nail' solution. In a video released by the prosecutor's office, the officer could be heard asking "What are you doing?" before exiting the driver's side and going to the rear driver's side door of the police vehicle. During the same time, before the officer enters the back seat, the vehicle began to move as if there was a commotion in the back seat. The back-passenger side door could be seen recoiling from some sort of impact from inside of the vehicle.
According to the prosecutor's office, when the officer entered the vehicle to restrain Jabbari, he was immediately attacked by Jabbari, who gouged at the officer's eyes. A struggle ensued that lasted a few seconds when another officer appeared and tried to help subdue Jabbari from the rear passenger-side of the police vehicle. In the video, that officer, who also has not been named, opened the door and grabbed Jabbari seconds before several shots were fired. The officer immediately retreated as he was shot in the arm. Did you watch the video? ...or are you here just to offer support for a random Joe who happens to have the same occupation as you? Let me ask you this - When you play this scenario out in your mind, with yourself involved; does the suspect end up dead? If that is the case, I'm really going to have to wonder about the 9 cop dogpile while apprehending a suspect after a car chase has halted. ...when you only need one I added "in a similar situation" to my question. This was to prevent any deviation from the debated material, as you attempted above. So, before I disengage from this topic - Just to be clear, you would 'cowboy' into the cage with an unrestrained subject by yourself in a similar situation? Knowing you have someone else to assist, 3 meters away... I don't know you, but I don't think that is an honest response. Shitty cops continue to be shitty because good cops don't want the badge to be stained more than it is. |
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Also, a bullshit shoot. The guy is out of his cuffs in a cage? Shut the fucking door and regroup. it is the determination of this office that there was insufficient time to formulate any criminal intent. We find no criminal wrongdoing in the use of deadly force by the officer who was being attacked by the suspect. Me? Contain the threat. Keep the door closed. Roll a rear window down a bit, and taze the guy. No tazer? Ok. Keep the door closed and wait for my co-worker to assist in extracting the suspect and re-applying restraints. Nobody had to get shot in this incident. The suspect nor the other employee. Back to my point, leave the doors closed and take a minute to think about the problem, instead of the old 'everything looks like a nail' solution. In a video released by the prosecutor's office, the officer could be heard asking "What are you doing?" before exiting the driver's side and going to the rear driver's side door of the police vehicle. During the same time, before the officer enters the back seat, the vehicle began to move as if there was a commotion in the back seat. The back-passenger side door could be seen recoiling from some sort of impact from inside of the vehicle.
According to the prosecutor's office, when the officer entered the vehicle to restrain Jabbari, he was immediately attacked by Jabbari, who gouged at the officer's eyes. A struggle ensued that lasted a few seconds when another officer appeared and tried to help subdue Jabbari from the rear passenger-side of the police vehicle. In the video, that officer, who also has not been named, opened the door and grabbed Jabbari seconds before several shots were fired. The officer immediately retreated as he was shot in the arm. Did you watch the video? ...or are you here just to offer support for a random Joe who happens to have the same occupation as you? Let me ask you this - When you play this scenario out in your mind, with yourself involved; does the suspect end up dead? If that is the case, I'm really going to have to wonder about the 9 cop dogpile while apprehending a suspect after a car chase has halted. ...when you only need one I added "in a similar situation" to my question. This was to prevent any deviation from the debated material, as you attempted above. So, before I disengage from this topic - Just to be clear, you would 'cowboy' into the cage with an unrestrained subject by yourself in a similar situation? Knowing you have someone else to assist, 3 meters away... I don't know you, but I don't think that is an honest response. Shitty cops continue to be shitty because good cops don't want the badge to be stained more than it is. |
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Good shoot. Dude was a 38 YO pharmacist with psych troubles. I bet the toxicology report is interesting. He had a good job with good insurance. He could have sought treatment. He made lots of bad choices to end up dead on the side of the road. Maybe we can celebrate by legalizing pot? |
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I only have two eyes. I am not giving one to a shitbird if I have a pistol. Good shoot. Dude was a 38 YO pharmacist with psych troubles. I bet the toxicology report is interesting. He had a good job with good insurance. He could have sought treatment. He made lots of bad choices to end up dead on the side of the road. Maybe we can celebrate by legalizing pot? View Quote |
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I only have two eyes. I am not giving one to a shitbird if I have a pistol. Good shoot. Dude was a 38 YO pharmacist with psych troubles. I bet the toxicology report is interesting. He had a good job with good insurance. He could have sought treatment. He made lots of bad choices to end up dead on the side of the road. Maybe we can celebrate by legalizing pot? Which model cages does that department use? |
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