Duhhhh, I never proposed doing anything about it.
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really?
I'm looking for ideas. I'm open to suggestions. But not one of anybody who is bitching at me has offered a single solution to the problem.
When is one of these of-Cuban-origin-anti-trade-anti-communism protester types gonna tell me of a better way of changing Cuba.
If you're not then let the rest of us dismantle Castro's control through whatever works best.
Now they should grow up, get over it, and show their support for overthrowing it however [i]we[/i] see fit,,, [emphasis added]
Why can't we trade with them and try something different in the attempt to change them???
Now we need to get on with cleaning up the little messes,,, Cuba.
It's just another country that we need to support the overthrow of the government.
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sounds to me like you want to do something about it. your original point was to normalize relations, but you did carry the argument beyond that.
as far as meddling in other countries' affairs, just because we do it, doesn't make it right. and england's problem preceding WW2 went WAY beyond looking the other way and not interfering. that would have been just plain vanilla isolationism. but, nooooooo, they went a step farther and tried to protect their asses through a policy of [i]appeasement[/i]. the U.S. non-involvement with cuba is NOT to protect our ass. we are not giving cuba the entire carribean (sp?) to sate their appetite for land so they don't come looking for ours. we aren't preventing any harm to us by boycotting cuba. in fact, we're bringing it down hard from the people and other countries who wish we would normalize relations with cuba.
i want a free society for cuba as much as the next person, but it is not OUR decision to make. if it is truly a government of the people, by the people, and for the people, then how in the hell can the U.S. do it for them? (not to mention that the chances for success are so much higher if the change originates within the country rather than with U.S. military [or otherwise] action.) this is a cuban issue. i imagine you'd get downright pissed if france or england started telling us how we ought to behave or threatening action because we weren't governing this way or passing these laws. why then is it okay for us to go tromping all over the sovereignty of other nations just because you don't like their form of government?
The book Let's Stay out of Foriegn Affairs and Let Everybody Screw Each Other Over by ARLady. I'll be looking for that one at Barnes & Noble
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this isn't a foreign affair. this is a cuban domestic affair. and yeah, if other people want to screw themselves by the form of government they enable or allow, that's their choice. "of the people", after all.
Oh, and I don't want them to do our bidding. I just want them to become a democracy and do their people's bidding. Isn't that how it's suppose to work???
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you're right. you don't want them to do our bidding, you want them to do [b]your[/b] bidding. and yeah, that's how a democracy is supposed to work, [b]BUT THEY DON'T HAVE A DEMOCRACY[/b] so it's a moot point. if it's to truly be a government of the people, then THEY have to do it. we can't do it for them. they have to have leaders step forward and take the reins. these leaders have to be their own people, chosen by the people.